Many… If you think there are more players complaining on the forum than there are in-game right now, I can’t help you. Even if I brought numbers you’d dismiss them anyway.
Sorry.
Bring them. I assume nothing, I care only about myself and my experience and money.
It is you who used the argument about players majority so you must have data. Prove me wrong and share it.
doesn’t mean we need some self declared ‘saviour’
For someone to be a “self-declared” saviour… they have to actually declare themself a saviour. It doesn’t work if you do it for them.
Just fyi.
I’m offering some balance on a forum that has over-reacted for ages, using hyperbole like a sword.
Sounds pretty clear to me. He also stated similar things in multiple other threads but you are right, I didn’t use the word correctly. I’ll change it in my post. Thanks for pointing that out!
Actually I agree with you and I think you should change nothing in your posts.
Wait wait… I’ve been insulting? Aggressive? Where?
Where is also the “constructive complaint” in the original post?
And I’m not the one who’s called me “noone” for the 4th time.
To reply to your comment too: People who want to buy the game won’t come to the forums to make up their mind. They read reviews, ads, or ask friends.
those are only assumptions, data pls, and the data for “majority of players” i mentioned in previous post still missing
of course I am noone, my posts are made for company to be read, other players have no power here so why should I care about them?
the problem here is mr styxx is devaluating OPs complaint which is a problem and I’m having fun defending OP who I agree with.
Anet more wing please.
Something inside me just died from thinking about that.
me too
so why in patch notes it is called a bug?
Only if the “disagree” part isnt insulting or entitled to force opinions. and the guy trying to devaluate the OP is not constructive. He’s agressive.
You dont need an account to read the forums.
I’d like to see a detailed data you’re using to assume
the vast majority of players are logged in and playing now
if you dont like complains, dont read them, its an advice on the same level of your “arguments”. They are not posted to you anyway, you are noone here.
or put there a toggle button called “allow duel requests”
It’s not that I don’t like your idea. Simply, I dont think they’ll implement this. If we see any gear general changes that will be legendary armors I think
Ppl still write here because they want this game to be good. They spent their money and time on this game and many of them is still actively spending money on this game. It is customers right to complain and this is the only way a company can feel obligated to do anything. If more ppl share the same attitude as the V-bot, companies won’t care even a little about quality of products. Bussiness is bussiness but money comes from ppl so we, customers, must be treated with respect. We are no walking wallets.
I wish there is a red post saying "we are sorry, it happened because …. " not so much but helps to understand why this patch is so annoying. Good ideas, bad execution.
I know, I still dont understand why anyone would test the product without being paid.
That’s what we do every patch day. I’ve lately come to the conclusion that GW2 doesn’t need a player test server: it already has mass quantities of player test servers. Mine’s called Crystal Desert! When I’m not being megaserved, that is. What’s yours?
wow… I think… you are right. This whole game feels sometimes like beta test going too long.
The companies should be treated with respect as well. This is something everyone seems to forget. They are providing services in exchange for that money. They are made of people trying their kitten dest to make their customer base happy. They are not REQUIRED to build this game, they are not required to make you happy. That is their privilege. They could all sell the game, and then leave to work for other companies. In business, BOTH sides must have mutual respect for one another. If someone truly believes that ANET, or any company, should be cow towing to their wims, then they have the wrong philosophy of life.
I pay the so I expect a product to be good. When they make a mistake I want them to hear it. And who are you to tell me about my life philosophy? Are you another online shrink?
while shadow refuge is useful, very often I replace a main thief in our party with my engineer which almost compensates during skips.
a thief is good for many reasons stated before and stealth isnt the only one its liked in runs
Your son is a very wise young man. Say Hi to him from me. I wonder if his second sentence is going to be about mounts and guild capes
Omg the GW2 community is like a family to me. Love you! <3
And why are you upset about this personaly?
This is an incentive to make more ascended copies if you want. And ascended craft is an important gold sink.
Cant you see we’re getting fixes daily? I understand an outrage, I am disappointed iwth this game more and more because of this but come on they are fixing it.
Keep ascended gear on a char you play fractals with and the rest will go fine with exotics.
Ascended already has a QoL feature which is account bound. Even legendary equipement can’t be used like wardrobe skin and you need to move legy’s between characters.
Complaining has an important purpose. When unsatisfied customers are going vocal other ppl become aware that advertised product may have faults. This is company’s job to avoid such mistakes in the future.
I find actually funny that such buggy patch was released soon after big sale for gw2. Isn’kitten great marketing lesson?
So only sub games can be complained about?
And how do you count GW2 lifetime to be over four years?
I feel we’ll see tengu one day, maybe with primordus going active on surface
omg plz dont listen to the op.
while I actually dont agree with many things going on in this game, the one thing I like is their presentations; when I see a guy playing the game that he was coding few hours before I feel connected to it, I know he knows what he’s doing and I trust his explanations
when presentations are done by marketing specialists I cant stand the corporate talk and manipulitive tricks they are using
Let’s be fair, while I find many of gem store items lazy cash grabs (those outfits grrr…) you cant expect model designers to fix gameplay bugs. Those ppl are not qualified for this. There is a very good video at TotalBiscuit’s channel which convinced me that when major work is done only things left to do for design team is to make cash shop items. And I agreed with him at the end.
Ppl still write here because they want this game to be good. They spent their money and time on this game and many of them is still actively spending money on this game. It is customers right to complain and this is the only way a company can feel obligated to do anything. If more ppl share the same attitude as the V-bot, companies won’t care even a little about quality of products. Bussiness is bussiness but money comes from ppl so we, customers, must be treated with respect. We are no walking wallets.
I wish there is a red post saying "we are sorry, it happened because …. " not so much but helps to understand why this patch is so annoying. Good ideas, bad execution.
I know, I still dont understand why anyone would test the product without being paid.
That’s what we do every patch day. I’ve lately come to the conclusion that GW2 doesn’t need a player test server: it already has mass quantities of player test servers. Mine’s called Crystal Desert! When I’m not being megaserved, that is. What’s yours?
wow… I think… you are right. This whole game feels sometimes like beta test going too long.
Maybe for him it’s better. Who are you to judge?
open source products are usually free arent they?
if gw2 was f2p i would understand ppl involvement in testing.
but this is a b2p game with cash shop so for me personally pts would be a cheap way to cut costs with shrinking QA teamwell they shrunk (well perhaps a better term is outsourced)the QA team without throwing in a PTS for like a year now. Annnd id rather have a pts if these are the results.
I get what you are saying, but at the end of the day, id just like a better game, even if the community does some of the work to get it there.
I’m admiring your altruism and this is not sarcasm.
I want companies to make effort this is why my point of view so demanding. I am generally disappointed with corporations all over the world milking customers with bad products.
They can’t make them stack because BLSK is one of many items created to clutter your bank and force you to buy more bank tabs.
open source products are usually free arent they?
if gw2 was f2p i would understand ppl involvement in testing.
but this is a b2p game with cash shop so for me personally pts would be a cheap way to cut costs with shrinking QA team
For you it’s whining, for him it’s important. You are noone to tell him his voice is not important. Stop pretending anet dev. I find your sense of entitlement to abuse ppl with different opinion a plague – see? This is an example of different points of view. You find yourself superior with your forgiving attitude while for someone else you may look like a rude guy. Stop telling him he’s wrong.
I know, I still dont understand why anyone would test the product without being paid.
Being a free test subject is an illogical idea for me. Why PTR servers? if they want players to test their game they should pay testers.
lightning storm
If the revenant is the last profession (which is logical to me) its possible with next expansion(s) in 2057 we’ll get new race.
Game was sold with the “future patches included” on the box. If the game is broken it is his right to complain. Pretending that nothing happened is the reason why companies dont care about customers anymore. If accept everything they try to do they dont need to care anymore.
And mr styx for the op the game could be expensive and only he knows if the hours he played were worth it. You’re using your own opinion and experience to judge him which is intolerable. You are noone to revoke his right to complain. If you’re hapyp with the game thats good but stop saying other ppl they should be happy because you are. They shouldnt.
So this is why the bubble disappeared for me yesterday.
God save us. Is there even a reason to report this to them? Do they even look at their dungeons anymore?
they will be back, never said when
For me it was more like
- critical bugs fixed boss!
- roll the update!
- but there are tons of other bugs!
- we’ll fix it on air!
Guy is expressing his worries about stability of game build. He says he’ll wait until it’s fixed. Why are there ppl taunting him or asking to get his stuff? He’s not leaving, he’s making a break which is kind of wise if he’s not satisfied with the game now. And some of you dare call yourself “the best mmo community”.
Did you even care to read the first page of this forums?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/So-where-are-the-dungeons/
AC story – chains in second chamber didnt turn off flame traps.
Those “changes” look to me like bugs and with anet fashion they either will be fixed at the very end of fixing process or not fixed at all.
and you know: just because most of current dungeons/paths are easy and bit boring (most 80- ones, jade maw), doesnt mean they couldnt make new ones with more complex mechanics, more challenging.
They literally did that, Aetherpath exists and no one touches it with a ten foot pole.
because rewards are abyssmal
Yah, because it’s fairly obvious that it’s the rewards that are the most important thing, not stated desires for complex mechanics or challenge.
Put the rewards there and the people will be there also. Put a challenge there and it will be deserted without a big enough carrot.
Challenge is a subjective term. Every of dungeons were a challenge long time ago. But after replaying the same content for almost 3 years we know how to do them. If rewards for AP were better you would see more ppl participating and doing it on daily basis. and with youtube and other forms of guides it is easy to learn the path even now.
Pugs will be pugs, some of them are incapable of taking reflects against elite shamans in cof p1 so yeah… it would be better if some ppl just stay in their champ/world boss trains.
I agree with OP. Watch list should be customizable so I can turn off those annoying e-sport cries and those who like, I dont know, pvp can turn of personal story or living story advertisement.
They are still fixing, all bugs arent fixed yet so I dont understand why this thread. Unless you are compensated for it somehow.
Bugs happen, bugs are being fixed – this is true. However there is nothing to be grateful. It’s their job, they’re getting paid for it. It’s not your family.
I really wish they hadn’t “fixed” it on the last hotfix. The game was better for it.
dont make your opinion sound like a statement of truth
it is fixed now, so it was a bug, I’m satisfied this way, thank you almighty arena net
Outfit Cons (ANet Perspective):
• N/A
Less transmutation charges sales
At least anet didnt loose another point of their creditibility with this. It was a bug and it is fixed. So toodles to all dps haters.
pifil are you a developer for gw2? how dare you telling me how this game works. you are noone. I want a red post to clarify if this is intended change and if it is, why isnt it in patch notes and why are they trying to hide such changes?
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i dont care until they announce it officialy. Now I want new armors.
Human. I dont play animals.