Guild Wars 2

Why is anybody still posting here?

Devs don’t care, and it’s impossible to keep up with any train of thought.

/thread close…

I’m actually frustrated too. On a scale of 1-10, dev involvement on this forum went from a 0 to an 8, then post patch back to 0.

NOT to mention, they ‘took’ some of our suggestions.. Like making diamond skin 85% instead of 90%. They spoke as if it were a done deal. That didn’t happen.

A bunch of things didn’t happen. But you know what? I’m almost certain elementalist is at rock bottom, and they wouldn’t dare to nerf it more.

If they do, I quit the game. No biggie.

Nice to see a focus ele. I’ve tried the skills out, they’re very… clunky… I guess is how I’d describe them. You used them well, but at the same time, you didn’t duel people who would give anybody a hard time.

S/D ele — not a great one at that, GS guardian, no big deal in WvW for us eles and a warrior.

Post some more dueling videos, and you’ll lose more of the haters. Impeccable taste in music though!

It should be free any time you transfer to a server with a lower population than yours, but obscenely high if you want to transfer up.

That would eventually equalize all servers I think

I’d purchase a template. Vote added.

I don’t exactly share everything I run, but look to the Valk amulet, and build bunker.

Stack might, and you may as well be a glass thief LOL. If you have ANY issues, PM me in the game.

ThiBash.5634:

Xillllix.3485:

The reason why Anet decided that the ele is too good to deserve a weapon swap is beyond my understanding… (Why do I have the feeling I have said that before?.. like 1 year ago)

There have been many arguments against this, but the most important one is that ArenaNet’s design policy is specifically to limit the number of practical skill combinations. Guild Wars 1 had way to many combinations and as such was nearly impossible to balance. That’s why there are so many restrictions on skill selection in GW2.

It was so fun though. And I really got into build crafting there. You could do SO much.

Mbelch.9028:

I played SPvP yesterday and wrecked each person I fought when 1v1, won several 2v1s and survived a 3v1, killed someone and escaped until help found me. In several hours of play, I only died twice, got downed once more past that.

That was in hot joins, and I don’t think it means much, so no need for flames. But I will say you can do well now with certain changes. I would say go bunker with everything but your gear.

I posted this in another thread just a moment ago. I was doing pretty well during prime time on a Saturday. I’m planning on doing some more tournaments soon. I had previously ignored SPvP for a month or so.

I played SPvP yesterday and wrecked each person I fought when 1v1, won several 2v1s and survived a 3v1, killed someone and escaped until help found me. In several hours of play, I only died twice, got downed once more past that.

That was in hot joins, and I don’t think it means much, so no need for flames. But I will say you can do well now with certain changes. I would say go bunker with everything but your gear.

I haven’t tested it enough. Mostly because I know it isn’t worth 30 points in earth for the most part.

Comparatively, vitality points are worth more than armor points as far as bang for your buck goes, and I’d rather have 30 points in water, also get thirty points in Arcana.

My build would be limited to 0-0-30-20-20 if I went with Diamond Skin. Still can be good, but I’m not sure how I feel. I’d take stability on earth attune, and it might do well. I’ll do some more testing, but they failed us by not making it 85% like they promised.

LightningBlaze.4913:

The ele is the most fun class in the game imo. If you have played mages/casters type of professions on previous mmorpg and loved it…then the ele from gw2 won’t disappoint you. However, we never one shot players (except hitting chunning earth to an uplevel). What might look like a one shot to many is actually the execution of multiple instant cast skills/utilities/traits that are combined at the same time for massive burst damage. The ele is not as easy to do well compared to other professions but that’s also part of the fun.

Hmm. No I don’t frequently see myself one hitting people. I’ve one hit a few thieves, mesmers after I’ve stacked might from another fight, then LF-Churned on top of them and instagibbed them. That’s quite fun.

But I’ve 2 shotted a ton of people. Almost daily I’ll get a thief/ranger/mesmer with burning speed – fire grab combo while swapping to a different attunement.

4.5k burning speed 7.5+k fire grab = shattered glass. On heavier defense classes I can usually land 5k grabs.

Having played out this patch, I overreacted poorly at first. Having now played it out for a good ten active hours, I’ll tell you D/D for a skilled person is still good.

I’m with several here. Water and Arcana prove to be two of the most useful lines.

oZii.2864:

You know I got <3 for you Nex I just try to be a voice of reason. There will never be a build that beats all builds no matter the profession but we all want competitive builds. Every class including ele has weakness vs certain professions builds.

I think classic d/d and variants do well against, guards, power thieves, engineers, rangers, any warrior build that doesn’t have a mace, or hambow wars.

That’s not to bad at all

My S/D ele’s fresh air buddies out there can do well against more specs than d/d. It certainly is the more desired ele type in tPvP. I don’t run s/d mainly but I think it is ele’s best spec now. In a 1v1 s/d vs d/d ele I give advantage to d/d but against every other build out there I think the edge is s/d.

Those are set ups I know the most about and I think ele does well and no 30 arcana isn’t required for all ele’s.

Not everyone plays d/d sometimes the forums act like that is all everyone plays. I use to be guilty of it but our s/d friends don’t get frustrated with the same exact fights as d/d. If you haven’t given fresh air s/d honest try everyone should the fight dynamics are very different than d/d. Range pressure really changes things.

Anyway it isn’t that bad my friends we will be fine

You’ve got a good point here. I do play S/D but I don’t like fresh air. I play it with 30 arcana, 20 air.

I most certainly don’t play staff on any semblance of a regular basis. Bleh that weapon isn’t for me.

Yeah I agree that you’re a voice of reason. I’m just down in the dumps after another patch where our power has decreased.

FLiP.7680:

Yeah right!? OP is blind, staff ele is better than before. Elementalist isn’t only d/d. Actually, if you like d/d so much go play thief.

Not blind, I’m just a WvW D/D roamer. I get the brunt of a lot of different OP things. Zerging is for nabs.

Hedonismbot.3697:

Don’t be such drama-queens.

Elementalists are in a good spot; the class is unforgiving and requires quick fingers. Step up your game and you’ll be fine.

Boycott… shesh.

Elementalists aren’t in a good spot. Nobody here would agree with you. The only thing everybody here agrees on is ele is the most fun class to play.

My game is quite high ele wise. Like I said, I’m actually a very good ele. I just hate having to tie condi classes in duels, and die to zergs.

Don’t mess with assumptions.

Star Ace.5207:

To be honest, I play two of the “easy mode” Professions (they are indeed easier to play than anything else in the game, IME) and still find the Elementalist to be a wonderful and fun Profession. It isn’t intended to be as easy as playing your Warrior, IMHO, and why make Professions so homogeneous?

That said, play what you enjoy; no point in playing Elementalist for its own sake if you don’t enjoy what it may or not offer. There’s ZERO sin in enjoying playing your Mesmer/Guardian/etc. better, and that doesn’t necessarily means Elementalists “suck” either.

The shameful thing is I think most of us — including myself — enjoy playing ele more, the other classes are just comparatively stronger.

Professions shouldn’t be homogeneous, but they should all afford skilled players the chance to showcase their skill against each other. Not unskilled players jumping on a skilled player’s body because they teamed up in a group of 5 mesmers, thieves or warriors to gank you.

BlackBeard.2873:

Mbelch.9028:

I’m really glad to see the support for the ele.
….
I’d love to see a change in that culture, and even if this was the wrong suggestion, I’m looking to ANYTHING to get us love. I hope you all understand.

We all get it – this class can be supremely frustrating, especially when you see other classes going ez-mode. Every time I reach that point, I jump on an alt and level it a bit. Even though some things are easier, I still find myself missing some of my ele tricks and skills.

Thanks. Just a bit of frustration, and unfortunately some people took it the wrong way I think.

I’ve got a guardian, thief, mesmer, warrior and an engineer, and lately I’ve been jumping on one, roaming on it a bit, then as soon as I find someone good, I hop on my ele, duel them and roam on ele.

I will always have love for this class — I feel like I get to use my skill on it more than any other class — I just wish Anet did too.

Seeing as I feel you may have taken the OP wrong, I’m going to respond in quote.

oZii.2864:

Let’s be realistic here for a second most of us all recognize each other’s name on this sub forum.

Yeah and that’s one thing I love about this forum. I know just about every poster, and we all recognize a troll right away.

If you take the regular posters here you might have maybe 15 people? There are way more people that play ele that don’t post on the forums.

This is a silly suggestion my friend. You can always chime in with the I rolled x or post a video of you deleting your ele. Can become extremely bitter and bring RTL revert into every ele discussion.

Silly suggestion or not, I’m trying to get us something other than nerfs. I’ve yet to see a patch where our comparative strength to other classes hasn’t decreased. Also, I’ve never done either of those things.

The ready up PvP stream is every 2 weeks so I think the best thing to do of you want changes is bring things up there.

I don’t play PvP, but I’ll contract someone from #Eletism to do this for us, all of us.

I won’t stop playing my ele for anyone here I don’t know any of you irl and I paid my own money for GW2. I am friends in game with people that post here including mbelch but it isn’t that serious.

You do well on your Mesmer because Mesmer play is passive extremely passive especially prismatic builds. Nobody runs shatter much and everyone rolls dueling builds stealthing to make phantasm and clones.

Mesmer is extremely easy. I do well on it, but I do well on all my classes. I do extremely well on my ele.. I was just pointing out the runner up class which I was considering switching to. Mesmer is a class which has frustrated me for a while during ele play. I can beat or tie them almost all, but they just have too much on us at the moment.

The important thing to remember is that in WvW just about every class can ignore every Mesmer build.

If you like dueling then since launch Mesmer has been king. When out roaming around you need ego driven people to actually stay around not ignore you, and stay around and blow up your clones. It’s boring but people think p/u is skillful but it’s not tbh. Of course you work harder on ele cause you have more skills to cycle if you gave guardian more skills to cycle he will inherently have to work harder.

I’ve yet to see a truly skillful mesmer build used in common practice. Yes, I duel on a daily basis. So you can see why I’m frustrated.

I get what your saying but the work harder angle was your choice. I know you didn’t expect to kill everyone cycling through just airs and fire one time?

I most certainly know the trials and tributes of our class. I put in 20 minute duels to kill bunkers, I will fight camps + people solo and win, but every time I’m forced to die because a necromancer and warrior stun, fear, signet of spite and stomp me, I feel terrible about how a skillful player should be able to overcome those spam tactic by something other than running!

I’m really glad to see the support for the ele.

I’ve been kitten loyal to the class for so long, and I’d never delete it. I’m just grasping at straws for a method of getting the balancers to notice us.

I rarely lose a duel, and it takes a group of people to bring me down when I solo roam, but that’s a testament to how I’ve learned the class, set it up, and trained with it.

I can guarantee for every person out there (Many of you guys) who have devoted time and love to their eles, there’s been 100+ eles deleted.

I’d love to see a change in that culture, and even if this was the wrong suggestion, I’m looking to ANYTHING to get us love. I hope you all understand.

Hey elementalists.

It pains me to even suggest this, but perhaps we should together go on a boycott of our elementalists. At least until they buff our class substantially, they should know they aren’t worth playing.

I’m considering going to my mesmer, but I’m not sure if I’m crazy for considering a boycott.

And a note: I know they aren’t impossible to play. I still do very well on my ele, I just am sick of having to work sooooooo hard for the goals my mesmer could achieve in 20 seconds.

STRanger and Alienmuppet, I’m lvling an engineer too, but it isn’t like that character could take on 2-4 people at once like my mesmer can. Ah well. I’ve got an abandoned guardian, mesmer, warrior, thief and soon to be elementalist.

Yeah there’s zero realistic consequences in this game. Zergs move around with ease (No spacial limit on players, IE They can’t bump into each other) small groups are destroyed by big groups with lesser tactics, heavy armor classes do everything a light armor class could do and more.

Saddness has hit me again. Seems it does every time an imbalance patch comes around.

Sad but I may abandon for mesmer here soon. Its so much easier to win.

Lol. Love when non-elementalists come and ask for ele nerfs. That’s how all our netfs have happened.

But honestly, I hope they do change diamond skin, because if I took diamond skin, someone would have to hit me a measly 1700 health. Warriors shake that damage out of their hair like dandruff.

Mash Hog.5672:

It is quite frustrating that one of my guildies could be trying to show off his random new build that he came up with on his mesmer and face me with screwed up traits and unpolished runes/sigil choices and I would have to play to the best of my ability merely not to get facerolled.
He would have no experience with the build and very little experience with the class itself.
I would consider myself to be a pretty experienced Elementalist (4000 hours) and it is very embarrassing being in matches like that.

I’ve got a couple K hours as well, glad you agree.

I always knew we would be the class to work the hardest for the kill, but I didn’t think other classes would ever have it so easy.

Taldren.7523:

Mbelch.9028:

Can we just address how the buffs to mesmer are basically a nerf to elementalist?

The already overplayed class is out of control as is.

While they’re not buffing the major builds hard, they’re certainly not curbing them at all. It’s nuts in my opinion.

My own personal thing is I love when I hit a dueling arena, and there’s a few rangers, a few warriors, a thief or two, a singular guardian, five necros and about 10 mesmers.

Each of which wants to duel you so bad they can’t contain themselves. Each are basically running the same build, and they’re so happy because with little skill, they can usually tie me, but beat people with less skill than me.

Just frustrating as heck. So with the buff to mantras (condi removal) and others, we’ll have a tough time adjusting to new mesmers tactics.

Cheers, Anet.

Ah yes, eat the rich and all that.

Most of the mesmers I know are x-elementalsits and became so because of the unnecessary nerf train that the class is still being run over by. Now you want to tie another class down to those tracks just because it is popular? What is wrong with you?

The elementalists problems are their own and are only going to get better if the elementalist class gets properly addressed … not by nerfing any other class.

Taldren, nothing is wrong with me. I’m frustrated, and many would agree it’s merited frustration.

Do I want to tie other classes down? YES I think each class should roughly be equal, with skill being a determining factor. It’s a pipe dream, but I can still have it without something being wrong with me.

Many people I know are ex-eles, and I too have a Mesmer. I made it mostly to learn how to fight it.

It’s just sad to me how easy it is to play and win on Mesmer, and how hard it is to fight and learn on ele. I have fun and have gotten quite good at ele, so I’m fine with it. But it’s funny when my friend who plays Thief, Warrior and Mesmer asked me “Mark why does it take you several minutes to win a fight on ele against a good person, when it only takes me less than a minute on my Mesmer?” I responded with well I have to build more into defense so I can actually deal dmg. I don’t have stealth to fall back on.

BlackBeard.2873:

Silferas.3841:

Also, no matter the game mode, PU condi mesmers (along with all other condi classes) autofail against eles starting this patch. Phantasm builds can still give you a headache but having heavy AoE options on all weapons makes eles one of the best counterclasses to phantasm mesmers. And remember, no phantasms, no damage AND no healing with the new healing skill.

Stop complaining, start playing

This is false actually. PU mesmers do damage when their clones die, either due to aoe or generation of >3. Diamond skin is very good against condi builds in 1v1 situations, and useless outside of that.

Regardless, the number and speed phantasms can be pumped out is rediculous, and not something that is easy for an ele to deal with, whether the opponent is PU or straight phantasm.

Sorry, BlackBeard is right here.

And after the patch, phantasm mesmers are even stronger. There’s no QQ here, I am playing the game, and I’m sticking it out on ele, but I think it’s laughable that they keep getting buffs while we get nerfs, intentional or not.

Can we just address how the buffs to mesmer are basically a nerf to elementalist?

The already overplayed class is out of control as is.

While they’re not buffing the major builds hard, they’re certainly not curbing them at all. It’s nuts in my opinion.

My own personal thing is I love when I hit a dueling arena, and there’s a few rangers, a few warriors, a thief or two, a singular guardian, five necros and about 10 mesmers.

Each of which wants to duel you so bad they can’t contain themselves. Each are basically running the same build, and they’re so happy because with little skill, they can usually tie me, but beat people with less skill than me.

Just frustrating as heck. So with the buff to mantras (condi removal) and others, we’ll have a tough time adjusting to new mesmers tactics.

Cheers, Anet.

Don’t know what all the hate is for. Good luck on warrior or mesmer, mate.

The strong shall persevere, the weak shall switch classes #ELEtism.

I’d love for them to realize that their nerfs were superfluous, and shouldn’t have happened.

It was a kitten L2P issue, and trust me, everybody knows how to fight an elementalist now, so we’re disadvantaged in way more than one area.

When you see a D/D elementalist you know what they can/will do.

When you see a mesmer, you press the oh kitten button because you have no clue what they’ll do, even with a GS out.

So we need to be STRONGER not weaker than the other classes for how telegraphed we are. It isn’t our faults that people took a while to adjust to our class.

Please in some way take the curse off our heads and revert some of the changes, like RTL, bountiful power and several others.

I’d kill for an increase in vitality, but I will say I love each and every one of D/D’s skills, even fire grab.

Swagg.9236:

Given the range on it (1200 range, seriously?? I know that new skills are good and they should shake things up, but a lot of these healing skills are just plain overpowered), it could be very strong in pvp. Chaining it with [Arcane Wave] would not only be substantial instant-cast damage (nonsense), but it would also inflict at least 2 seconds of immobilize to foes within a 360 radius of the elementalist.

If we’re talking [Meteor Shower] here, there’s no issue to an elementalist casting [Meteor Shower], following it up with a [Lightning Flash] mid-cast, swap to earth and then spamming [Arcane Brilliance] and [Arcane Wave] before walking out with [Magnetic Aura] or [Unsteady Ground] up while up to 5 foes in the shower sit immobilized for at least 2 seconds while having already taken high damage from the arcane skills and possibly even [Lightning Flash].

It’s pretty stupid. Even so, I don’t see many players taking [Arcane Brilliance] over [Ether Renewal] in pvp given the condition spam meta. The only people I could see taking it would maybe be s/d spikers because it’s just more spam fodder (because we needed more, right?).

Dingdingdingdingding. Couldn’t have said it better.

I’m neither, but I’m good at D/D if you need it for anything. Keep me posted.

Anicetus.1253:

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15 hours in WvW and you “barely play PvP” yet you have strong (false) opinions about D/D.

I’ve played it for hundreds of hours, and tested just about every variant of the build, and various S/D builds.

S/D doesn’t topple D/D for roaming, movement, sustainability. It does top it for overall burst.

Jski.6180:

How would say the d/d burst fresh air would work after this update? Say a 0/30/10/30/0 with the PA but fresh air over the “if stun” effect. I think you would need to max out boon duration on runes and food though.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJAoYhImmbxR4QlDIkHvgLUCjCig4xD0AcIA-j0CB4fg4LAJQQJREZslhBp6KslXRTVLy6aYKXJV7CAA-w

Something like this? 50% boon duration should let you keep fury up most of the time with the 20% reduction to your air and water.

Yikes. I’d never use ‘Giver’ armor, and I’d never share my auras. Not in lieu of removing a condition whenever I get regen.

This build seriously lacks survivability. I’d say if you were going to do anything with it, go 30-10-20-10… But after the update, the 10 won’t really be as useful.

Anicetus.1253:

Just that D/D sucks for roaming or in smallscale. And it doesn’t promote high speed play, just flats out the skill level required to bash low skill players.

You have no clue what you’re talking about. Ive fought the best S/D roamer I’ve ever seen, and I won more frequently than he did, but he was amazing.

Duel me, mate. You’re quite wrong, and your statements don’t jive with anything proven here. Show your D/D skills, and I’ll show you what you’re doing wrong.

EA really helps roamers. D/D is good. End of story.

katniss.6735:

WTB Healing Power – Precision – Critical Damage accessories. That would make PVT sets more appealing for me.

Valk is still a good option because power is great for Eles, and the Vit is great for condi management. Running without precision (aside from 10 in air) is why I’ve leaned toward celestial trinkets 99% of the time for every set (with PVT backpiece).

After patch, if you’re going the diamond skin route, you’ll probably want to get as much clerics or celestial in as you can. You won’t need to worry as much about low toughness, and the extra condi damage will make up for the power drain. The vitality won’t be as big of an issue vs condis, but possibly vs burst from zerker mesmer or thief.
I gather most people aren’t convinced that the patch will be worth switching out of current bunker meta. Especially the 0/30/30/0/10 spec. that was mentioned. However fresh air/anti-condition sounds fun. And you get the stab on earth swap option. I’ll definitely be experimenting a lot, and buying more sets. Possibly Apoth.

I’d argue you’d want to double up on toughness/vitality/healing power.

Toughness is the only way you’ll take a hit, so you may as well have as much spiky armor as possible. Increase the vitality so the threshold is larger.

How could 30 arcane be useless in WvW situations, Anicetus? Thats so wrong. It is our most useful skill/trait line.

I also find it promotes high speed play.

(Talking D/D Roamer and some zerging)

I experimented with 0-10-20 in arcane this past weekend.

It doesn’t really promote high speed play. Evasive arcana really allows a new tier of speed.

I will say evasive arcana is worse versus confusion builds though, hands down.

My setup is a Nostromo in my left hand, keyboard in the middle, trackpad to the right of the keyboard, and Razer Naga in my right hand.

I only use the keyboard to type.

My Nostromo has my DPad on my 1-2-3-6-7-8 buttons. It has my 1-5 skills on 4-5-9-10-14. My jump/push to talk is on the trigger thumb button. My attunement swap is on the directional thumb pad, and my loot is on thumb button 15.

My Naga has my 6-10 skills set up, along with several others, including about face, turn around, weapon ‘swap.’

It really makes my ele skill cap jump.

Keyboard and trackpad are just for typing and black lion trading lol.

Vylor.3276:

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Yes, I’m an #ELEtist, but I also don’t think we have the luxury of coddling fellow eles here. I told him exactly what he did right, and what he did wrong.

SoR is the best heal there is, and it doesn’t change all too much the higher you reach on the healing power scale.

You may be right, his stuns/ints were on a cool down, but was his flame grab? Burning speed? They’re locked down there for a second waiting for your int/dps.

My suggestion would have been a dodge roll backwards, burning speed forwards.

Also, I’d love for you to stop the thought that resetting a fight will get anybody anywhere. It’s great if you need to run away against a 3-4v1 and want to escape, but with elementalist, your move skills are also key damaging skills, and you’ll throw yourself out of key rotations if you burn them in that fashion. Not to mention people in duels are considered dirty if they kite you for any period of time.

Last, ether renewal is most definitely trash. Yes, I use it occasionally against a perplexity person, and I use it well enough (with a lightning flash or something else) to avoid most interrupts. But guess what. When that 6k heal you rely on gets interrupted 1 second in, good luck continuing that fight.

I don’t share my build, but I help people make their own.

‘Teach a man to fish.’

Svarty.8019:

Mbelch.9028:

My question is who congratulates themselves..

Americans don’t like the word “entitlement”/“self-entitlement”, do they?

I’m an American, but I just don’t support anybody gloating.

My question is who congratulates themselves.. I just don’t get it.

I hope someday we will play a league where we don’t already know who will win in the beginning.

No way. I’ll take the 1-2k damage I get off it over 300 range any day.

Why didn’t you include your losses if you want criticisms? That’s my biggest criticism is people not including defeats in their videos, not just you.

You did well in some of your fights, I like that you used SoR, not ether renewal. Ether Renewal is trash.

You did poorly against the guardian. That lockdown is easily dodged, and the whirling blades is easily interrupted/dodged.

Also, all your opponents fought without food, and the mesmer was bad.

PM me in-game and we can chat.

cheshirefox.7026:

funny how this thread is still going, developers stopped reading it 3 weeks ago
anyway, i hope elem gets buffed through the roof.. i used to wish for a game that works.. but with ArenaNet’s irresponsibility and lack of any notion of balance whatsoever, i hope it gets overhauled.. even if it needs to be reverted later, the last few months have been a phenomenal waste

I’m so sick of seeing it. I read everything on the ele forum, and this is the one thread that nobody is actually keeping track of, the train of thought is derailed and there’s so many replies that nobody would be able to follow along.

Troll? Congrats on having the most people.

Hey Ozii,

I’m in the camp that switches a lot. I own two identically skinned Knight’s armor sets with two different runes on them. On one I have boon duration, the other divinity runes.

There’s likely a better in-between, but I appreciate them both. I find this to answer your question (and I run several variants of the 30 arcane, some with 10, 15, 20 in air, 10 in earth and anywhere between 10 and 30 in water.):

My sustained damage is great with boon duration. It’s incredible in a larger 5v5 fight, also incredible in a smaller fight, but you do have a higher chance of things stolen from you. At the same time, that’s unlikely. Having fought hundreds of duels in the past few days, I’ve had several boons ripped, never one stolen. That’s not to say it hasn’t happened. With Boon Duration, I have permanent protection, 20 stacks of permanent might, permanent regeneration, permanent fury.

With divinity, I feel much more bursty. Where I might hit 6k with a fire grab, i’d hit 7.5 maybe with divinity at it’s highest. I mostly use my Boon Duration now, but this is still a good set. It stacks 13-16 might stacks permanently, but the biggest pain is ensuring I have fury when I need it.

Burnfail.

For his pursuit of justice.

But Daecollo is a close second.

I hate Ether Renewal, so I’m with you there on doing ANYTHING to avoid it.

You saw how nice my build was without it.

Next time we fight each other, we should do a few hours of practice runs using all of our alts vs each other.

No more skullcrack wars though, fortunately.

My only thing is that condo removal isn’t very useful half the time, when you’re fighting a power build. Yes — they all use some conics, but ele has enough removal for those naturally.

Yeah heh. It fits into several of my equations.

I personally use three pieces.