Servers are comprised of people. People play when they want to. Enjoyment is the key factor.
SoS did not really “crumble” last week we are still here, “DB played well and put in the hours.” Please try to stay positive and apply praise where praise is due. Great effort DB!
DB won first in our tier, SoS won 8th overall GW2 NA servers weekly, Yaks won 9th overall GW2 NA servers weekly, we are all still top ten finishers!
(Grats Mag for rounding out the top ten )
Some good fights are being had, concentrate on those please.
The reason I made the judgement call that SoS crumbled is based on relative strength. Their strength at the end of the week relative to the beginning of that week (weekdays, the weekend is never predictable) was significantly lower. While I wasn’t in wvw 24/7 past week, I was in it enough to recognize that the SoS map presence was strangely and massively absent in the last couple of days, significantly less than that of yaks. I don’t know why that happened, I don’t know how that happened, but it most certainly did happen. DB didn’t suddenly acquire massive transfers. We were 30k points below SoS for a very good reason, they were outdoing us with superior coverage, particularly in NA prime times. Something big changed, and that’s undeniable.
@ribuld: We’re all armchair warriors here…this is a video game after all.
- S/D “not alot of damage” … rofl, I’m in full on soldiers gear and still pump out 12k + in a burst with this build, stealth is only used to set up an interrupt…chaining stealth one after the other isn’t really required, OR the best way to play this even now
A burst in S/D? You need to practice your trolling.
Everyone will just hop on to D/D. Do the rotation, dodge, dodge, disabling shot, SS, etc bye bye. Nerf to stealth? Second best thing in the list is just not be there anymore. Which is what glass D/D does. Hard to see where all this is going to remove the skillless rotation macroers. If anything it turns everyone into one of them.
Please explain to me how someone uses disabling shot with D/D? lol
- 3.5k mug, 1.8k + 1.8k + 4k hasted auto chain (x2 in 2 secs literally) [12k is WAY conservative], is off before anyone can react.
It is a simple matter that sword thieves are superior in every aspect to dagger in PvP.
In football even the best teams lose to awful’s , any given Sunday. Then you have the fans..they so thirsty
If Anet flipped the outmanned buff and the orb buff. It would give people with a Lower population a chance to hold or push. You also bring back the orbs and if a hacker flys over and steals it. Well he just got +25 magic find and gathering, so useless. Anet could also have a range for the buff to only aid you in taking what’s yours
Edit cause I’m in my jacuzzi not bath tub and typing with wet fingers sucks
Ah, the L2P and “all thieves are just better people” arguments. What would a thief discussion be without these?
More likely – bad players are getting held up by an overpowered class.
The L2P and “people are garbage” observations go both ways. Just so happens thieves are the exception to the rule and are solely populated by good players? LOL
It’s not that playing a thief means you’re better. I’t simply that soloers are better players than those that play in groups by necessity.
Most people who like to play alone and dislike groups tend to pick stealth classes in MMOs for avoiding zergs. This causes the stealth based classes wind up with a higher population of people who focus on dominating in PKs from the release of the game, even before anyone knows what balance is like.
(TLDR – Playing a thief doesn’t automatically make you pro, it’s just that good soloers with allot of experience in the genre tend to roll stealthers for soloing, giving the thief a high concentration of great players compared to other classes.)
I’ve heard the same argument used regarding magic classes, tanking classes, healing classes and sometimes even sub-specs of classes.
It’s not true.
The best soloers, in every game, play a variety of classes.
In GW2, the best soloers I’ve seen tend to play mesmers, warriors and elementalists.
In fact, most people who roll thieves are bad at solo’ing. They roll thief to use stealth as a crutch to mitigate their lack of skill.
See how easy making arguments like that is?
No they play engi.
Or ranger.
I’m not a ranger fan cause of a streamer named krippiarrrrriean his spread sheet never saved him from my backstab. What’s on paper means little
Ah, the L2P and “all thieves are just better people” arguments. What would a thief discussion be without these?
More likely – bad players are getting held up by an overpowered class.
The L2P and “people are garbage” observations go both ways. Just so happens thieves are the exception to the rule and are solely populated by good players? LOL
It’s not that playing a thief means you’re better. I’t simply that soloers are better players than those that play in groups by necessity.
Most people who like to play alone and dislike groups tend to pick stealth classes in MMOs for avoiding zergs. This causes the stealth based classes wind up with a higher population of people who focus on dominating in PKs from the release of the game, even before anyone knows what balance is like.
(TLDR – Playing a thief doesn’t automatically make you pro, it’s just that good soloers with allot of experience in the genre tend to roll stealthers for soloing, giving the thief a high concentration of great players compared to other classes.)
I’ve heard the same argument used regarding magic classes, tanking classes, healing classes and sometimes even sub-specs of classes.
It’s not true.
The best soloers, in every game, play a variety of classes.
In GW2, the best soloers I’ve seen tend to play mesmers, warriors and elementalists.
In fact, most people who roll thieves are bad at solo’ing. They roll thief to use stealth as a crutch to mitigate their lack of skill.
I have 1000+ hours on thief. People who use dps gear sets and complain about thieves amaze me. Also most posters here need to know how to reset a fight. Your group being trolled by a thief and all of you are running in circles in one location you are now playing like NPCs. Try playing like a human and reset the fight gain the upper hand. If you are solo being trolled learn to reset the fight (run away).
Guilds on SoS can’t even stand to lose as many weeks as they won.
Say what you will about JQ, but at least the core guilds don’t hop around searching for greener grass. At least not that I recall. JQ didn’t crumble just because we placed second or third several weeks in a row.
Sorry, I’m usually nice and don’t like to stir up trouble, but this server hopping thing is just silly (especially now that an entire guild has to pay for it). Stick to your server and do your best…don’t go jumping around and then be proud of your “victory”.
And before anyone says anything….I am directing this towards the guilds that joined JQ as well. I personally didn’t ask for them (nor did I want them). While I will continue to fight alongside them they will always hold less respect in my eyes, compared to those of us that picked one server and stuck through from the beginning. Nothing will ever change that.
EDIT: Edited on my computer to fix some typos from my tablet, and change a couple words. I’ll also add that I used to really look down at HoD’s alliance in the early days for all jumping ship. However, at least they had the balls to jump ship when they were WINNING instead of when they were losing.
After this post it was great to read all the backpedaling responses. I thank you for expressing what a lot of folks are thinking.
Also any guild leaving SOS that’s not NA should have gone to SOR. But you know how cool kids act. This is by far one of the worst community’s of gamers. It’s pretty much call of duty after school special. That pod cast / web site dedicated to drama is also laughable, really prx?
Servers that have coverage gaps can have a chance to hold or continue to push ppt. You also make hacking boring, +25 magic find way to go hacker! In beta I lead a attack on a orb arenanet dev picked up the orb then dropped it for me. Ran it to a keep altar and felt like a champion. I pre ordered the game after that.
Also I like the idea of outmanned player feeling positive rather then I’m go do fractals.
Edit I’m in my bath tub waiting for reset / shuffle #friday
Is it a holiday week for SOR? The NASCAR starts this weekend and pretty sure senior citizens get free coffee at the international house of pancakes as well.
Wonder how many pages this thread will get by the end of the match. The hype seems to have faded. Last weeks was flooded with OMG I got so many bags, good fights at some garrison.
Defiance beta is great, mmo fps and mounts are ATVs.
If they flip the old orb buffs and outmanned would work a lot better then any idea posted here so far. Don’t limit players, increase their effectiveness when facing larger populations. They should have stages of the buff if a server has 50 players and another has 30 those 20 people they lack should be built into a buff. Having scaling built into the buff would aid in keeping things even. If you don’t like to fight fare that’s a whole other issue
Hey guys! Very sorry about this. Looks like the Shortbow had been using the Longbow model and I fixed that when I hooked up their new icons to use the correct model file, not realizing that the Shortbow was so different looking from the Longbow (usually the shortbow versions are just a little shorter than the longbow). You are absolutely correct to be bummed out, the Longbow has a lot of majesty that the Shortbow does not. So we are going to adjust the Shortbow model to look a lot more like the Longbow. Very very sorry about this! It was certainly not my intention to nerf your awesome bows. We are working on this fix as I type. It might be too late to get it into our next bug fixing build (today or tomorrow) but it will definitely get into our February build at the latest. Again, so very sorry!
Thank you for a response to this. You’ve got nothing to be sorry for just doing your job. But I am very happy a change will be made! If you get to design it that’s also rad, cheers
They really need to mod the forums. If some one is being paid to it really should be better then this. The same people posting, you even get people posting after them selfs. The tone of most threads is the little man big man syndrome.
Really I’d put a daily limit to how many times someone can post in certain areas of the whole forum. Change is better then none.
Edit: JQ posters might as well use map chat.
Edit 2: I will pay someone 5g to tally up post counts by players in this thread and locked. I’d like to know the winner of the pissi g contest.
For every BG/SoS post you get 4 JQ’s, they even out number us on the forums
Looks like JQ is even having self conversations in this thread. With the amount of rubbish / walls of text. It’s safe to say everybody knows what is happening. JQ how does it feel to be the Zerg server of guild wars 2. Now guild tags and names don’t mean anything to your enemy, enjoy.
Agree with OP , the original skin for the corrupted short bow was fine. To just change/nerf the look of something really unfair. Anet did inspire me to finish map completion so I can finish The Dreamer on the other hand.
15 pages filled with some score updates and a lot of none sense. The recurring posters names and the broken records they are playing should try and limit them selfs. Having self control is asking a lot but at least try. Having a forum presence in 2013 is as important as Nikki Manjis new single.
15 pages filled with some score updates and a lot of none sense. The recurring posters names and the broken records they are playing should try and limit them selfs. Having self control is asking a lot but at least try. Having a forum presence in 2013 is as important as Nikki Manjis new single.
you guys are aware that with a ghost tonic on you :
A) cannot use siege
B) cannot swap utility skills or elites
C) you can never really fully stealth as the top section of the ghost models hair never actually goes invisible.
also every server/player/guild/team has access to veil, just as they have access to portals.
Might just want to take a step back and think about what you are complaining about.
First I play on a T1 WvW server, roam/scout and stream to twitch (stream snipers). WvW is by far the best pvp in any game out right now. I dont understand the OP’s complaint. Downed stated is part of the game and its pretty simple to kill people. I spend more time solo killing in WvW then with a zerg. Have no issues with stabbing people with a flag. Dont use haste and I sure as heck dont stress on stabbing people with a flag. When fighting 2+ people I dont find it hard to keep aoe on downed players and switch to another for death. Id rather people try and revive then fight me.
It is hard to see WM go, but I understand their decision. Jang and his crew have earned my respect many times over. Still, the circumstances leading up to their transfer is sad. Certain players from SOS crossed the line by personally attacking Jang. In my eyes and the eyes of many others, Sea Of Sorrows has lost all the respect they fought for when they rose through the tiers. It’s pretty lonely at the top, especially when the ongoing victories are won through tawdry methods………
Jang sounds like cougar from top gun. Couldn’t hack it turned in his wings. If you remember the end of that movie ice man still won. It’s not hard to see what server is goose now. Hey jq you can be my wingman anytime.
You never close your eyes any more when I kiss your lips.
What’s the issue with double dagger backstab thiefs. If you use a pistol / dagger that’s far more easy to play. The thiefs who stick up for p/d are the worst type of players using the thief class. I’m looking for more duels wildbill is a joke now that he can’t alt+f4.
was this answered some place else, cause i just googled the dreamer no footprints and only found this. was bummed to find out no footprints are left behind with this short bow..
