Guild Wars 2

I logged on for the first time in many years TO SUPPORT THIS SRSLY I DID NOT EVEN KNOW THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

I have all the materials I need for Gift of Blades. I tried to throw them into the mystic forge BUT the 15 Bolt of Damask and Watchwork Mechanism will not show up.

If a dev can please fix this it would be greatly appreciated. I already spent 15 days waiting for the damasks to be done.

Thank you.

castillle.5248:

I play a condition thief and I love it. Just remember to take caltrops o.o its your single best aoe skill as a thief especially since you can use it while stealthed. You can usually drop it and if you stacked condition duration, itll stack 12 times on its own and you can give 25 stacks of bleed if youre continuously going 2x pistol shots -> c&d-> stealth shot while theyre over caltrops. The main thing you have to look for is that you can fight an exteded fight in a condition build unlike our more bursty counterparts. However we will still die if cc’d (but who doesnt?) and you will absolutely hate necros that return your conditions to you and spread it to everyone around you. All condition build chars hate necros. Youll learn to fear them as well when you fight good ones.

Going p&d will remove most of the effects f condition removal. You stack bleeds often.

i hate necros.

Guardians have a spell which pulls enemies to him. ESSENTIAL if you’re fighting multiple enemies with your group. Usually our guardian PULLS everything, then our ranger ROOTS everything, then we unload aoes. Also you have a healing bubble, I’ve seen that help many people out :P

I play thief. DODGING is essential for a thief and AGAINST a thief. I don’t get the people that say “dodging is worthless in wvw and pvp”. LOL.

For thieves with backstab builds, the whole mechanic revolves around stealthing, activate our signet, then CRIT in the back. A good dodge can throw off this kind of attack.

Vs ranged thieves, which I usually play, pistol/pistol or shortbow is pretty much a joke when mesmers pop illusions. We’re much more glassy than mesmers :P

Vs condition thieves, we can have 3x caltrops. At that point you won’t be able to move and will very quickly bleed to death. DODGE. also, don’t mesmers have utility to swap conditions with enemy? (long cooldown, but worth it against thieves, wait for us to stack on the conditions, then reverse)

If you’re dying, I’ve seen mesmers do 2 illusions really quick, then use the mass invis spell for a fast get-away. Thieves are faster (25% speed boost + shadow step + shortbow shadow steps + trait that gives swiftness when dodging), but if you outsmart him, you don’t have to outrun him.

TheRamosOnline.2670:

I don’t have an issue with thieves really.
The only one I have trouble with is the heartseeker build, and with my current clone set up they waste all their initiative spamming heartseeker on my clones without stopping to make sure they’re hitting the real Mesmer.

OUCH. that’s mean LOL! I unloaded my pistols on a mirror once, i was sad. And using stealth against us isn’t very nice either

Braxxus.2904:

You….

You’re kidding right?

We are by far the best 1v1 class there is. We have the most guaranteed purpose and team comp position for tourneys in the game. PvE is a bit ho-hum, but whatever it’s PvE and doesn’t matter much.

Yea look at how our thieves are being nerfed. We get slapped around weekly I always check the updates now :P just to make sure my spells didn’t get slammed down :P
I think mesmers are extremely powerful. It really takes concentration to kill a mesmer SIMPLY because of your stealth + clones. When 2 clones are popped, then a stealth ability, it’s pretty difficult for us thieves to kill u.
And the bird skill is just mean. Just. Mean.

PLZ NO MOA MY THIEF. mesmers are annoying enough already with the clones

i wish my feet are smaller and not stick out. they need to be protected. that’s why i wear the shoes.

:(

Tiny Terror.6752:

I’m a pretty princcess!

omg. OMG you’re so cute. I say you win fo sho. Now i want to not b thief ALL WE HAVE IS FREAGGIN TRECHCOATS. I CAN’T BE A PRINCESS LIKE U.

omg so cute nice screenie.

You’re dumb, and when you die u’ll leave a dumb corpse.

^OUCH.

Gwal.2813:

and now, this is how I feel when my Asura is holding his massive 2 handed hammer

lol It’s true. I have an amazing shortbow. Doesn’t show its amazingness on my tiny body. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE MY TRENCHCOAT BLOCKS EVERYTHING, BECAUSE I HAVE MEDIUM ARMOR, AND EITHER I GO NUDE ON TOP OR TRENCH IT.

other than that asura is lovely

i think chasing people in wvw is fun. superior running abilities ftw!!!! also shortbow :P

I think most classes have a knockdown spell of some sort :P For me, I can pretty much get away with anything with my utilities + shortbow <3 BUT the pain piles when i’m knockeddown. As for mesmers, if you can’t beat em, run away, pop out 2 illusions, then use ur invis to run away

our group runs around with a guardian. i use him as meat-shield o.O had no idea guardians can actually do decent damage

RoRo.8270:

They probably won’t do this because the attacks bounce

lol :P that would be hilarious, and also imba.

haha there’s so many warriors in wvw that doesn’t bring their rifle :P there’s somebody that was talking about that the other day :P

castillle.5248:

@ZLE – Shadow refuge is not a very good ability to have. Usually, they just flood that with aoe and youre dead even with shadow rejuvenation. Or worse. They knock you out. I stick to blinding powder or roll for initiative. If I get teleported and Im out of combat, Im definitely using tripwire though. And yes. Traps are friggin awesome.

Yea, i used shadow refuge for a while. Then I went to wvw and got pwned cuz I depended on it too much. Instead of using tripwire (had that for a couple of weeks also), I use caltrops, MAIN reason being the kitten wire dies after 1 person hits it -.-’ Caltrops, however, can cripple MOA than one. Traps are SO aweome … but for thieves there’s so many awesome utilities it’s really hard to choose

Ashanor.5319:

Most Warriors don’t beat me as P/P. Maybe you just need to pick your utility skills better. Kite or stealth the invuln if that is the problem you are having.

P/P is awesome keeps distance is always a bad time for the warriors :P For utilities I keep switching, I think now i’m liking caltrops, nothing better than to see people limping towards u

And I totally agree with Volrath. Opening with critters is a terrible idea. For glassie cannons it’s essential that we time our attacks.

i do wish they would give thieves more dmg in p/p :|
i look over my shoulder and the ranger’s doing 6k crits … and i do 2.5k crit max :| it’s not very pleasant … if they made it stronger tho, people would complain :P

pistol/dagger don’t have unload o.o also it’s 900 range

edamber.1549:

Yup ppl don’t realize how important dodge is.

If you wanna look at a real imba problem, look at guardians. Best defence and can one shot glass cannons. I can’t for the life of me beat a skilled guardian. I’m not even full glass cannon. My BS + steal proc hits them for around 8-10k damage, and maybe I get some auto attacks in before they full heal and proceed to roflstomp me.

a guardian can 1-shot me? oh noes o.O what spell?

you don’t have to be a sitting duck. you can be a moving duck! run in circles or somethin backstab’s hard because 1) meelee 2) have to stab in back :P

glassiest of cannon classes ^.^ no need to nerf our spells more. considering making 2 mistakes = we’re down, we’re pretty nerfed already :P

I like it because of the unloads o.o also 1 attack bleeds also don’t need to worry about getting knockeddown every 3 seconds by meelee people o.o

DODGE BUTTON IS IMBA.

why do people say dodge doesn’t matter at all in wvw and pvp? For me, I use 10 points of traits just SO i can dodge every 3 seconds. It is THAT important to me.

Because of knockdowns, I dodge a ton. There’s traits that allow us to dodge more and return energy after dodging. You can also use caltrops to slow the warrior. I think the class that grief me the most is either necro or mesmer. Warriors you just have to try to move outa their way (think positioning spells).

GEAR: I bought all 6 pieces of my gear from karma vendors. Mix and match to get your desired thief effect: glass cannon or really glass cannon.

RUNE: Buy SUPERIOR runes only. get SIX of them. Attach runes to karma vendor armor pieces.

Lan.1968:

You’re in the wrong forum section if you’re seeking help on how to kill a thief. No thief player could give you an in depth guide on how to fight their class with another class. You’d have better luck asking the mesmers. Also, as some have previously mentioned, mesmers are quite annoying for most glass-cannon thieves to kill, simply because they HAVE to target the right target in order to beat a mesmer. If a glass cannon thief don’t take down a mesmer with their burst, the thief’s going to die pretty easily. Only advice I can give you is to trick a thief into attacking a clone and he’ll drop like a fly.

I hate mesmers as in, HATE. always do the mass dmg spell then awwwwwwwwww dang it’s a clone. should’ve used 1 and check for health dropage

if you’re in a rly bad situation, pop illusions, then use your OWN stealth abilities. that seems to always confuse me for some reason.

I think you should give pistol/pistol a chance. The 4 skill daze is very very very useful in PvE and WvW. Also the 5 option gives you a combo field that you can 3 in. 2 I don’t use very often, but I really should. When you run out of initiatives for 5 seconds or so, 1 can stack bleeds.
^I think rly nice? o.o

wait … what? :| necros also have mass reveal?

Met a couple of necros that just refused to die it was 2 necros vs Ranger + thief + mesmer. they owned us

Let me elaborate:
A random mesmer, Ranger and I were camping on top of the well’s mouth in WvW jumping puzzle waiting for people to come up. We kill most of the people. There’s 1 necro down there, and we keep throwing whatever we can down at him (downs most people). His friend came up behind us. The necro in well didn’t die, jumped up, and killed all 3 of us. Just read that necros can return condition damage. I guess returning the dmg + lifesteal is imba.

I use pistol/pistol and I can down the dumb thieves/engineers/rangers with no problem in WvW. Most of the time with pistol/pistol tho I have to chase … and get people that log out.

PvE vs boss
Thieves as a class is very glassy. If we mess up ONCE, we have a slight chance of recovering, but if we mess up TWICE we die. There’s just not enough hitpoints/armor/heal to counter two mistakes.

PvE vs mob
I use my thieves guild as tank. It’s a really cheap way out but it works, less tense. Shortbow has great aoes so no worries.

WvW
:D SO FUN. I do double pistol/shortbow.

I think it’s funny people place so much EMPHASIS on backstab. I’ve had thieves use backstab on ME (and I’m the glassiest of cannons ^.^). You just have to react faster. Learn to hotkey the dodge. Get hit, DODGE, HEAL.

Stealth only lasts 4 seconds for me. I use it to mainly change my POSITION in a battle. And seriously I think engineers need to be buffed up, I’ve downed every single engi I saw in wvw. Maybe they’re just bad, but I srsly think they should give the engineers extra damage or speed boost or SOMETHING.

“If you are as dumb as a mob then HS spam will probably kill you.”

LOL nemo LOL.

I think the only times I died in PvE was because of afk :P Off to get an icecream bar and come back dead <—- glassy.
When I run out of initiative, yes, I do press 1. Guess what, the pistol 1 gives bleed dmg :P Thieves work on a different system than other classes. We can literally use up ALL of our allotted “other-button-skills” in 3 seconds.

Nothing really OP about thieves. A good knockdown is ALL a warrior needs to kill a thief. Glass cannons are glassy, what can I say.

I’ve fought some pretty good Necromancers, I’d say their lifesteal ability is much more imba than stealth …

I don’t know about other people, but for WvW I use shortbow + pistol/pistol. I use this build also in PvE.

I think for being a guardian, besides a few area control spells + strong survival abilities, it’s difficult for you to take down other classes :P

The first thing about thieves is stealth. With tons of stealthing abilities AND 25% movement boost AND the trait that gives swiftness after every dodge, it’s tough to chase down a thief.

1. How often can you go invisible/stealth within a 60 second time-span?
   this is for me:
   Steal: with a trait it stealths.
   Shadowstep: with shortbow
   Blinding Powder: when health is under 10%
   Blinding Powder: utility skill
   Heal

1. What can I do to counter these things and drive you off or kill you?
   As for most pvp games, I would say stuns. Warriors are a pain to me mainly because of their knockdown stuns. If you have any position control spells, using it against me would be deadly :P I like knowing where I am and where my escape route is. I literally try to go in, deal damage, get out, and I usually don’t get out if too many slows/stuns (got jumped by 50 people once, wasn’t paying attention in a terribad spot)

As for the glass cannon part, I’m the glassiest of cannons HOWEVER, being thief does give you enough leeway to escape – I use smoke screen when I’m being chased (works wonders)
Also, thieves can usually distract while a friend who doesn’t have stealth abilities gets away, the shadowstep ability on shortbow is SO imba for that —→ toy with enemies for a bit, then vanish, then run away and teleport to safety