Guild Wars 2

RoseofGilead.8907:

Morrigan.2809:

well Pavilion was all about loot- it was a farmers gold making paradise

if you want to improve builds/skills on individual characters- Gauntlet was all about that

While people got a lot of mats and stuff from the Pavillion mobs, most of the big gold farmers were farming gauntlet champs with gambits.

:P
I was just trying to beat the darn thing- that just makes me feel bad
>.<

Lankybrit.4598:

Morrigan.2809:

Lankybrit.4598:

I wasn’t around for it the first time round. Is it worth doing? Can anyone give me a link to info about it, or tell me what it was called last year so I can google it?

Thanks.

If you like jumping puzzles that are gorgeous with completely different movement skills- Bazaar is for you.
If you like farming- Queens Pavilion is for you
If you like one on one challenge Gauntlet is for you

check it out- those were the most popular LS releases.

I like things to improve my characters and make gold. Is there any of that? Any good loot from stuff, or large bags or something?

well Pavilion was all about loot- it was a farmers gold making paradise

if you want to improve builds/skills on individual characters- Gauntlet was all about that

Also defeating Liadri- the final fight in the Gauntlet gave you essentially the most exclusive and coveted mini in the game- I die of righteous envy every time I see a Liadri mini

Lankybrit.4598:

I wasn’t around for it the first time round. Is it worth doing? Can anyone give me a link to info about it, or tell me what it was called last year so I can google it?

Thanks.

If you like jumping puzzles that are gorgeous with completely different movement skills- Bazaar is for you.
If you like farming- Queens Pavilion is for you
If you like one on one challenge Gauntlet is for you

check it out- those were the most popular LS releases.

Natomi.9427:

40, but with a 4 year old. Can’t count the number of times I’ve been mid fight and had to go and sort out tears after bedtime. Makes dungeons impossible! ‘Would you mind just waiting 5 minutes whilst I go and put my kid back to sleep’ does not make for friendly chat sigh.

43, I have a 7 year old and I feel your pain- we are raising her as a gamer so in a couple of years we are golden

fellyn.5083:

It’ll be fun only if they change the design of the arena to make it so it’s not 100x more tedious than it needs to be when you die.

lol
rage quitting from dying again and again was the most fun I have had in years.

Offair.2563:

I know a handful of vet players on gunnars hold, 40-50-60 yo and im 32 myself.

Age is just a number, old people can be immature and younger people very mature.

yes Gunnar’s Hold had a good number of older players- back in beta several guilds for older players decided to roll there.
I am convinced that was what made Gunnar’s such a great community- so chill and relaxed

I loved the gauntlet!
Still have 50 tickets- Liadri will be mine.
mwhahahahahaha

I’ll be 43 at the end of the month.
I have been very happy here since beta but like Oogabooga.9138, I have been looking at other games since the last patch made me feel very alienated.

GW2 is a beautiful game and I love love the combat- up until April 15 it was the best game in the world for me- haven’t really touched even single player games much in 2 years

^ and yet several new upcoming MMO’s are launching with pretty comprehensive housing^
if it is not something they perceive players to want why do you think they are doing it? Maybe because it actually ads to the game?
Profit for the company? Player trade?
mmmm

Ele is much more fun
Ele and Guardian also make a pretty great leveling combo- so there is that.
Ele turns into a beast at higher levels-at least mine did.

Warrior is like watching paint dry- my third one made it to lvl 26- seriously thinking of deleting her yet again even though I spent a total make over kit on her.

the Cities are mega servers.

I have wanted a house since before launch.
now with mega server I want one even more, I lost my server -I want at least one place I can call my own. -and where I can shut the door if I want to be alone

Behellagh.1468:

@Morrigan – it launches June 6th. This 10 day open beta is a shake down of existing mission bugs and what not. I’m not expecting any major changes between now and the 6th.

mmm might be that what I think of as bugs are just differences with GW2- I might have to actually look at the add on’s – I have been playing vanilla up until now _ actually I haven’t even really messed around with the options at all, was too busy rubbernecking.

I do think that WildStar is a more all round complete game for launch than GW2 was.
More modes- more options for different play styles, housing etc.
It just seems that the base game is more thought out.

Then again GW2 was such a completely engaging and beautifully mesmerizing world.
Two very very different games for different audiences.

Gw2 was quite a bit harder at launch and this was not just because people didn’t know how things work.
I was in Orr last night for the first time in ages and I haven’t really spent any time there since just after launch- when I used to live in Malchor’s because I had a personal grudge against Balthazar.
I was shocked at how ridiculous Orr is now.

WildStar is an interesting game and it is a good game- sure it has it’s faults but I believe that is because it is very much still in beta.

If I look back at GW2 beta- it seems to me that WildStar is actually a more complete product at this point.

It is definitely much more traditional than GW2 will ever be and it flat out caters for more hardcore players- that is not a secret.

What I find so interesting that along with the 40 man raids, it also has smaller adventures as well as single player- lore instances.

Challenging single player instances or even content, is something I have missed in GW2.
Up until the mega server you could still work around that somewhat.
But while pushing the pact from Straits alone is challenging- it is not really designed for a single player at all

I also really like combat in WildStar- don’t get me wrong I love the fluidity of combat in GW2. Combat in WildStar just feels much more strategic to me- you timing and positioning matters a lot more.
You feel like you are getting better at your skill, even though WildStar is a gear dependent game.

I haven’t really felt that I get better tangibly in GW2 in a very long time.
New encounters are pretty much a matter of figuring out the mechanics and then going for it ( that might of course be because I have more than 2000 hours and can fight in my sleep at this point)

I have no doubt though that 2 years down the line people will think WildStar is too easy.
Where do you draw the line though?
If you keep ramping up difficulty to keep veteran players challenged- you completely alienate new players who are just picking up the game.
This is pretty much an MMO problem.

Vesuvius.9874:

Morrigan.2809:

mega server is only ok if you pretend all other players are NPC’c- very vocal NPC’s

people don’t even res any more
they will run over your corpse because why not? it is not like they are ever going to see you again

seriously, give us our communities back- we made them- it took two years.
you took it away in one patch.

I know! I was late for work today because megaservers put everyone on the same kitten train! Everything is megaserver’s fault!

HerrDoktor.3490:

I am no longer interested in logging in anymore. I don’t know what else to say. This really really sucks.

Can you give me all your gold then?

So lets take your work analogy -why don’t we.

yes the mega sever made you late because it put everyone on the same train
- not only that
at each stop, it randomly changed all the passengers and in some cases the actual stop because now the station was no longer open.

- no one on the train spoke the same language and your neighbor, who got on with you went missing.

there are so many people on the train you can’t see the train let alone the stop

halfway through your journey you disembarked from the train, only to find- when you get back on that it is now a different train.

by the time you got to work – you seriously thought about taking the long way in the car next time.

mega server is only ok if you pretend all other players are NPC’c- very vocal NPC’s

people don’t even res any more
they will run over your corpse because why not? it is not like they are ever going to see you again

seriously, give us our communities back- we made them- it took two years.
you took it away in one patch.

rainbow bag, 20 slots.
however many colored bags + coins + mystic scroll + ? = 20 slot rainbow bag.
come on who has not wished for this?
seriously?
I know you have

I was really excited about new content before the 15th of April patch.
Unfortunately I could now, not care less.

No matter how amazing season 2 is- the big mess that is the Megaserver makes it a moot point.
Can you imagine trying to play LS content with the Megaserver?

I sure can
shudders

phys.7689:

lordkrall.7241:

The fact that they have blatantly stated that they are monitoring and working on improving the MegaServer would very much suggest that they are indeed going to do something.
But I suppose it is better to assume they are simply lying about that.

you are being overly positive, you have to take an objective look at what they said.

• “Although we’re excited that you have more players than ever to explore the open world of Guild Wars 2 with, our work is not yet complete. Our megaserver team will continue to monitor the performance of the technology on live and evaluate your feedback. We will continue to tweak and update the way the system works until it is providing even better megaservice!”

they didnt acknowledge any issues here.
they said they will look at feedback
they said they will monitor and tweak.
tweak means “improve (a mechanism or system) by making fine adjustments to it”

All they actually said is, megaservers are out, we will tweak it, and someone will read your feedback.
This is what they actually said. This is a far cry from an announcement of intent to change/fix anything. In fact the word tweak implies they wont be making any major adjustments to the system or issues caused by the system.

They basically put out a statement, that you can try to put whatever value you want on, but its actually saying nothing. They are not lying. They just didnt actually say anything.

also note, if they havent told us what things they would like to improve, or what things arent performing as expected, we have no idea what their improvements might be.
The goal of their improvements might be, going from 63% of time you are with your guild to 65% of the time. Yes its an improvement, but it doesnt really solve much

truth
I haven’t been here in a week and I haven’t really played since mega server was rolled out on all maps.

Luckily I have another beta key for the other game that I am trying out, this weekend.

GW2 broke my confidence completely with this- sorry but unless you can/will fix this nonsense I really have better things to do with my time.

You threw me and player who are like me under the buss

Edit: considering I would have happily spent the next 5 years buying gems, seems pretty stupid. GG

Maxite.6102:

Actually, seems like they can’t shut up.

You aren’t wanting answers—plenty of those with all the patch press—but instead want a red name to acknowledge whatever the latest life-shattering grievance is in your video game. That isn’t feedback so much as pouting. I cannot imagine why they aren’t breaking down the gates to listen to that.

so were are all these?
I don’t want them to hand me a tissue thanks.

I have been a pretty big supporter of both the game and Anet- so I don’t think you can accuse me of complaining every patch

Nothing I have seen have in any way implied that I will get back the game that I loved, since I no longer enjoy the game at all since Megaserver was introduced why should I play it?

Games are for fun- this game is no longer fun for me- end of story

Nerelith.7360:

Palador.2170:

TheDaiBish.9735:

If they did say ‘we are aware of the issues and are looking into it’, do you honestly believe that people would stop posting / whining about the same thing on a daily basis?

No.

But what if they said “We’re open to ideas, but parts A, B, and C are not going to be open to change. What can we do to parts D and E to make this work better?”, they might get more useful feedback.

They will also get tons of comments from people that want A, B or C. Asking why they are not being treated " fairly" or they might feel that only players that want D, or E are being listened to bla bla bla…

Sometimes the best thing is silence.

Not in my case- I wanted any reply so that I can make up my mind if Anet has my interests at heart.
Since someone kindly linked me the German community response, I know that they do not.

Much as I have loved this game in the 2 years I have been playing it everyday- I will now no longer do so until Megserver returns my experience to me- if it cannot or will not, I have to call it a day.

Today I got a beta key for another game that I previously had no interest in because I was invested in GW2- now, I am in the market for a new game.

So yes- a response did help me.

I have 2 Engineers and I love the class to bits.

From what you say, I would suggest an Elementalist- keep in mind that they are very fragile and the attunements take some getting used to- similar to Engi kits.

Mesmer is great fun and very versatile but lacks out of combat mobility

I am hoping for White Mantle and Mursaat

had the same problem all day- finally got in, my husband’s client is still doing that

speed booster
temp merchant
repair canister

timmyf.1490:

AdaephonDelat.3890:

timmyf.1490:

If there’s a statement you can make about how “all” players feel (and I don’t believe you can), I’d say it’s this:

EU players hate it. NA players like it.

That’s the reason I’d guess a ton of you keep saying that literally everybody hates it (on EU). When I ask around, responses are moderately positive (I am in NA).

I’m on EU and I don’t hate it. In fact I’m quite enjoying it.

Oh, for sure. And there’s players on NA who hate it. I’m just trying to figure out why it seems overwhelmingly positive on my servers and overwhelmingly negative on the servers of others posting here. And they all seem to be in the EU. German especially, perhaps?

not from a German server but from GH an international English server.

my guess would be that server culture played a bigger part in EU communities and that just like cultures in Europe the server cultures are more diverse than in NA

Add to that the obvious language issues and the fact that from my experience people in EU are more likely to be extremely individualistic and do not actually mind playing with less players rather than a huge bunch of random people.

I have seen several posts by NA players that seem completely unaware that servers are actually different and not just interchangeable based on pop.

TC seems to be the exception to this rule.

But in EU servers matter

Lishtenbird.2814:

Morrigan.2809:

Any kind of response- because that would tell me that

a) they actually give a kitten

b) they see their players as actual people and not just pixels to be shoved around

c) if they came out and said- working as intended it is not a problem as we see it- people can make up their minds if they want to live with it or not.

• Response from a German community manager: https://forum-de.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Megaserver-System-Die-Konsequenzen/page/15#post374779
• Translation: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Feedback-Questions-MegaServer/3949954

thank you

bri.2359:

Morrigan.2809:

So let me tell you about my experience yesterday:

<snip>

Now, take your experience in trying to join your friend at Maw and consider 120+ players all trying to do the same thing.

This is what the multi-server guild alliances go through, at least twice per day, trying to do Tequatl and 3-Headed Wurm.

I know- and the Guild Alliances have my deepest sympathies because it kills the game for them

Nage.1520:

Kurr.4179:

Nube one one seven.7039:

I just logged back on for five minutes, to see if the new megaservers were any more tolerable after a couple of days. Needless to say, I`m now waiting on final confirmation from Anet on whether or not I need to cut my losses, and uninstall the game. I honestly enjoyed the game before the “update”, but now, now I can`t be on for five minutes without gritting my teeth. I Honestly would revert to the game prior to this update, wardrobe system and all, if it meant I could ACTAULLY CHOOSE WHO I PLAY WITH. One way or another, this`ll be over for me when Anet finally decides to comment on it, either it`ll get fixed, or it`ll be just one more customer they`ll lose.

EDIT: typos

Yep. We’re all just waiting to see if they will revert this change or lose thousands of customers. The ball is in their park, and they’re being pretty kittening quiet.

I think they’ll lose less people than you think, because I think more people like the megaserver than is immediately apparent on these forums in particular. Plenty of people love these changes.

And many who don’t will get used to it.

There was a mass exodus from this game during the ascended gear, and though it hurt the game short term, it looks like the game has full recovered. This exodus won’t be nearly so large, and won’t hurt the game nearly as much.

EU here and I am not aware of anyone liking the megasever.

During the ascended mess I still stayed because I could continue playing the game and ignore it.
if you think people will simply get over it or get used to the total bugger- up the Megaserver has made of the game – you are sadly mistaken.

I have loved this game- I have played it for 2 years now- almost everyday- I have been really happy.
I have recommended the game to all my friends and I spent way more than I should have in the shop- because I wanted to
yet
this update took all that I loved and valued away from me- why on earth would I continue playing?

I am not a masochist- I play games for fun.
A company that can take everything I value from a game in one update- does not deserve my time or respect because they clearly have none for me

i can’t even get my client to open

Any kind of response- because that would tell me that

a) they actually give a kitten

b) they see their players as actual people and not just pixels to be shoved around

c) if they came out and said- working as intended it is not a problem as we see it- people can make up their minds if they want to live with it or not.

So let me tell you about my experience yesterday:

I was leveling a new character when someone said Behemoth pre’s are up.

I switched to an 80 only to find that he was halfway down because I was in another part of megaserver

After he was dead I switched back to the character I was on before- and when someone asked about Behe replied in map that he had just died.
Only to be called a troll and a liar because he was up— so in the space of 10 min I was on 3 different Megaserver shards or whatever..

Now think about this- basically all those people you see around you?
You are never likely to see them again because they are completely random.
This is not good- it makes other players nothoing more than pretty npc’s, you have no reason to engage with them because they are as fleeting as bubbles.
Megaserver completely destroys community.

oh- I forgot, for the first time since the patch I saw that one of my friends were on and at Maw- naturally I wanted to join him.
So I went to Maw- only there was no friend, 2 other people and no Maw.

That was when I just logged out.

MMO’s live and die by the cohesion of their communities- we have none atm.
It is currently more lonely playing GW2 than it is playing a single player game

I was not a fan of a city hub before Megaserver.

My vote would go for all racial cities to be off Mega map.

I loved how different people went to different places- before Mega map-= Shaemore wp used to be a hang out on my server for some reason and it was great. (post LA)

Someone comes out of the tutorial and sees people playing and chatting and goofing off- good times

Rauderi.8706:

Burnfall.9573:

timmyf.1490:

Look, it’s okay to have criticisms about the game. I have my own. Trust me, people on my guild’s Teamspeak channel are often privy to some angry ranting about this game.

That said, a lot of the good feedback on these forums is totally obscured by dozens of angry hyperbole. Whatever you think of Megaserver, it is not destroying the game. It is not the worst thing ArenaNet has ever done. It is not so broken that the only option is to immediately remove it. They did not do it to save tons of money because the game is failing.

Chill. Out.

If this community doesn’t police its own worst offenders, it will remain a toxic pool of discontent. We’ve seen great examples of self-regulating our members within the CDI posts. Bringing that same attitude to the entire forum would be a great first step at helping developers be comfortable enough to post here regularly.

We need to build trust with them first. Trust is earned. We aren’t earning it .

“Bringing that same attitude to the entire forum would be a great first step at helping developers be comfortable enough to post here regularly ".

If i’m hearing you right?

what are you talking about?

There are multi-tude of that in the forums and you guess what?, Arena.net still remain silent.

“If this community doesn’t police its own worst offenders, it will remain a toxic pool of discontent”

Let me get this straight, it is Arena.net Duty to communicate with their player base and resolve the problems that they may have.

As a Company to an employee, it is the Company Respnsibility to communicate to their employess. Toxic or not: Communication help the Company know the needs of their employees and Resolving any problems that they may have

Is it the employee responsibility to help the employer “feel comfortable” to being an employer?

As a Parent to a child, it is the Parent Responsibility to communicate to their child. Toxic or Not: Communication help the Parent know their child and Resolving their child problems that they may have

Is it the child responsibly to “help his/her parent feel comfortable” to being a Parent ?

To you, the reason why Arena.net (the Parent, the Company) do not communicate and resolve our concerns and problems is because we made them feel uncomfortable and that we are toxic?

In other word, we failed in becoming their slaves servants and their programmable robots…

WoW!

just

WoW!

…You’re the reason we can’t have nice things. -_-

Developers are still people, paid or not. Would you want to be on the back end of all this virtual garbage people are spewing? No.

So learn how to be productive. That will open the dialog between gamers and developers, and give them much less digital poo they have to sort through to find good ideas they can incorporate into their game design.

Geez. :\

it is Burnfall- he is kind of known on the forums for speaking in prophetic/ not sure what the term is, terms.

hi Burnfall- /wave

Im Mudbone.1437:

timmyf.1490:

Im Mudbone.1437:

That works two ways. In the past 2 years, can you say with a straight face and honest concience that they have(in regards to my underlined part in your statement)?

That’s a really good question and one which every individual needs to answer for himself. Personally, they’ve kept several promises they needed to – not making the gemstore pay-to-win, for example. Regularly updating the game with new features and content. That sort of thing.

There have obviously been disappointments as well. If I were concerned about eSports, I’d find trusting them hard. The PvP community hasn’t gotten the attention it deserves and it’s probably too late. Dungeons have been a major disappointment (but to be fair, they never promised a bunch of new dungeons.)

Personally, the introduction of Ascended gear hurt me the most and has made me hyper-sensitive to any further increase in gear or level. The trust I have in them would quickly vanish if additional levels or an addition gear tier were added.

But I can say with a straight face that, despite some missteps, I think they are actively trying to make this a better game for the vast majority of the playerbase (sometimes at the expense of minority groups like hardcore PvPers and the RP community.)

Thank you, this reply was a breath of fresh air to me and took the fanboi thought of you out of my head and has now earned my respect. KUDOS!

+1

timmyf.1490:

Look, it’s okay to have criticisms about the game. I have my own. Trust me, people on my guild’s Teamspeak channel are often privy to some angry ranting about this game.

That said, a lot of the good feedback on these forums is totally obscured by dozens of angry hyperbole. Whatever you think of Megaserver, it is not destroying the game. It is not the worst thing ArenaNet has ever done. It is not so broken that the only option is to immediately remove it. They did not do it to save tons of money because the game is failing.

Chill. Out.

If this community doesn’t police its own worst offenders, it will remain a toxic pool of discontent. We’ve seen great examples of self-regulating our members within the CDI posts. Bringing that same attitude to the entire forum would be a great first step at helping developers be comfortable enough to post here regularly.

We need to build trust with them first. Trust is earned. We aren’t earning it.

sure I agree.

But this thread is not about that, it is about the fact that the feature patch was pretty problematic and the resounding silence from Anet- despite the many feedback threads

timmyf.1490:

Morrigan.2809:

My husband is a developer :P

Then your husband would probably already know about this, but for your own enjoyment: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3brk033qb_w/UEwvqbaNpuI/AAAAAAAAACg/0ibWms5-XpY/s640/Screen+Shot+2012-09-05+at+1.45.33+AM.png

I must admit that was amazing
thanks
way too true

timmyf.1490:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Pirlipat.2479:

I didn’t want the mega-server yesterday, I wanted it when it’s ready.

You know, you can test all you want but until it is rolled out, you never know what is going to happen. This is coming from an applications person – there are NEVER smooth rollouts, NEVER.

As somebody who works in enterprise software consulting, I was expecting Megaserver to be a technical disaster. It was not. It was shockingly smooth.

Language issues may be a design disaster, but they are NOT a technical disaster. The code was tested well and worked impeccably.

But it does not work impeccably.

It does not do what they said it would- namely selection criteria based on server, friends, party and guild.

So no, sorry to say the code does not do what it is supposed to and the launch was not shockingly smooth.

My husband is a developer :P

timmyf.1490:

I have no doubt that Anet is discussing Megaserver and potential changes. The discussion are unlikely to be finished. They could very well decide that it works fine. They CLEARLY think some changes need to be made as they’ve already been playing with the language options for you guys in the EU.

About that fix- you know how it works?
it is an auto enable so you can only see the langauge in chat from your client.

This is honestly almost worse.
Why?

Because people in game do not know about it and it is auto enabled.

Because you have people with German, French, English etc clients on one map and now they can’t even see each other talk.

Because several people in EU actually speak more than one language and could understand and explain in events.

Now you have people who can’t even see the chat running around oblivious.

I find it absolutely amazing that people from NA think the mega server is fine- I am sure it is for you.
What I do not understand is how Anet drooped the ball on this- I mean they set up the different language servers in the fist place

timmyf.1490:

Headline: Angry Mob Demands Target of Protest “Be Reasonable and Come Join Us”

If you want more dev interaction on these forums, it’ll take months of you guys exercising self-control and not attacking them or their work.

These forums haven’t been respectful enough to earn further dev interaction. If I worked for ArenaNet, I’d NEVER come here.

And if you’re so entitled as to think they “owe” us that interaction, there’s not really anything I can say. You’re wrong. Your $60 bought you a game, not the ability to force people to listen to you yell about how much you hate them and the work they’ve done.

You play on NA- I am not sure how I can possible explain to you what it is like trying to play this game on EU servers at the moment.

there is nothing disrespectful about bringing problem associated with this patch to their attention

Entitlement has nothing to do with it.

Nage.1520:

Morrigan.2809:

Nage.1520:

The China release is coming up in what…there weeks. They’re fixing some of the problems slowly but it’s been eight days since the released. 8 days.

During that time they need time for people to get used to the idea. There are times in the past where they introduced something, there was a lot of complaining and it all died down as people figured out how to get used to it.

There was a massive amount of complaining about the meta event trains on day one and two and now, most people figured out how to get to them and follow the scheduled and the number of complaints have dropped off sharply. There are still some, but nothing like what it was. It’s going to die out because most people don’t care. There are plenty of people doing the zone wide events now.

Anet needs to let the dust settle before commenting. In the mean time, there’s a major launch going on that IS taking up much of their time. There are only so many hours in a day.

And what do you really expect them to say? The megaserver is very important to them for a variety of reasons. It means less servers running over all which saves money. It solves the problem of low pop servers and even high pop servers in certain zones at certain times of day. It solves the problem to some degree of the complaints that surrounded the Marionette fight when people complained the couldn’t even get on their server. It works far better with the living world stuff they’ve been coming out with than the old system did.

It needs tweeking and I’m sure it will be tweeked. Until then, i"m not sure what people want them to say.

Because from my point of view there’s nothing they can say that won’t make it worse.

If they say get used to it, we’re not changing it…that will make it worse. And they’re not going to change it.

The only thing we can hope for is that the cities will be returned to server, insrtead of megaserver. That might happen. Or the RPers can at least be given their own chat channel.

And yet they were pretty happy about posting blog post after blog post before the patch went live.

The thing is- there are some real problems with this patch, it is not going to blow over because it is not a case of ooh I don’t like this.

The fact that they made all the feedback threads and never replied to any of them is very worrying because a lot of is address legitimate concerns.

They cannot just leave it.

The lighting speed with which they rolled out Megaserver to all maps- when they were supposed to monitor the impact- leaves me speechless- the initial roll out already highlighted some problems- common sense to me would be to address those before rolling out the rest.

China- it is not a secret that they are launching in China, they have known it for months- it is their job to allocate resources to the China launch and the rest of their game.
If it was going to be problem they should have thought about it beforehand- project management is a thing you know

Blog posts were written further out from the China live patch though. The closer they get to launch the busier they are. Do you know when those posts were written? Do you know who wrote them? Was it even developers?

Anyone can come on and post banalities, but companies need to talk with one view. It’s not like you pick up a phone and call a company. You speak to one person in a company. The response needs to be a unified company response, which means figuring out how to handle things, it means meetings, it means time.

You don’t just say the first thing out of the gate, because that’s how you really get in trouble. You may not like it, but that’s how companies have to work.

Seriously?
Yes the blogs were written by dev’s- it says by who one each blog.

I repeat- China is not news for them- allocating their resources appropriately is their job.
The rest of the game does not stop because China is releasing.

They timed the roll out of this patch not the players.

About companies- they know what their view is. Do you really think I am suggesting that 5 different people come here and post opposing things?
What?

All that is needed is for one person to come here and say-

There are issues, we know and we are looking at your feedback- some things can’t be changed but we will see how we can make everyone’s experience as good as possible.

There- it took 1 min to type and didn’t need a team of writers.

I have worked for various companies my whole adult life- I am well versed in PR speak vs internal speak.

this is ridiculous- all the language filter now does on an Eu server is make it so that people can’t even see each other talking.

This makes events so fun- not

Guess what- many, many players are also completely unaware that it even exists- so they are blissfully running around and do not respond because they cannot see you speak.

This is bordering on silent comedy

Nage.1520:

The China release is coming up in what…there weeks. They’re fixing some of the problems slowly but it’s been eight days since the released. 8 days.

During that time they need time for people to get used to the idea. There are times in the past where they introduced something, there was a lot of complaining and it all died down as people figured out how to get used to it.

There was a massive amount of complaining about the meta event trains on day one and two and now, most people figured out how to get to them and follow the scheduled and the number of complaints have dropped off sharply. There are still some, but nothing like what it was. It’s going to die out because most people don’t care. There are plenty of people doing the zone wide events now.

Anet needs to let the dust settle before commenting. In the mean time, there’s a major launch going on that IS taking up much of their time. There are only so many hours in a day.

And what do you really expect them to say? The megaserver is very important to them for a variety of reasons. It means less servers running over all which saves money. It solves the problem of low pop servers and even high pop servers in certain zones at certain times of day. It solves the problem to some degree of the complaints that surrounded the Marionette fight when people complained the couldn’t even get on their server. It works far better with the living world stuff they’ve been coming out with than the old system did.

It needs tweeking and I’m sure it will be tweeked. Until then, i"m not sure what people want them to say.

Because from my point of view there’s nothing they can say that won’t make it worse.

If they say get used to it, we’re not changing it…that will make it worse. And they’re not going to change it.

The only thing we can hope for is that the cities will be returned to server, insrtead of megaserver. That might happen. Or the RPers can at least be given their own chat channel.

And yet they were pretty happy about posting blog post after blog post before the patch went live.

The thing is- there are some real problems with this patch, it is not going to blow over because it is not a case of ooh I don’t like this.

The fact that they made all the feedback threads and never replied to any of them is very worrying because a lot of is address legitimate concerns.

They cannot just leave it.

The lighting speed with which they rolled out Megaserver to all maps- when they were supposed to monitor the impact- leaves me speechless- the initial roll out already highlighted some problems- common sense to me would be to address those before rolling out the rest.

China- it is not a secret that they are launching in China, they have known it for months- it is their job to allocate resources to the China launch and the rest of their game.
If it was going to be problem they should have thought about it beforehand- project management is a thing you know

mmm
since I play mostly Sylvari and do not have a single “elven” looking one among them I set out to make one for my second Ranger.
I was thinking more Navi than elf I admit but this is what I came up with

nGumball.1283:

Morrigan.2809:

Dragonic Elemental.2674:

AysonCurrax.3254:

killed or atleast heavily crippled my community, thats for sure. Doesnt seem like they care much, either though. I am just waiting for their usual pat-self-on-shoulder move on social media along with trying to lure new players to the game with 50% sales or whatever. There has been silence for a week, and the “fixes” that came only added further chaos. Not sure if they have a clue where they are stearing this ship at this point.

How in the world did it heavily cripple your community? Please explain, or are you just complaining because you like complaining?

Community= an identity built up on a server since launch.
Made up of the same people with the same attitudes that like to do the same things.
It is not really hard to understand.
Some servers had great communities, that is why people went there.

How it ruined communities? Find me more than 2 people from your own server on any map- go ahead.
You no longer see the familiar faces- you no longer have the same philosophical discussions, you now longer have server gossip.

Nevermind guild issues and mega bosses.
Nevermind language issues and very different cultures in Eu

but I guess for some quantity= quality

Why am I the only person in the game to end up with people usually from my server on the same map? I find it like I am making miracles everyday when GW2 forums tell me that the mega-server tell me that I will play in a myserious hole from now on.

Also, it is ironic to use philosophy as something to support your opinion, casue your opinion in the first place is flawed.

Speaking about philosophy and generlizing your own experience and understanding of the system for every single GW2 player and then you wonder why people like you who have wasted the last half year hating, don’t get attention.

Errr I was talking about my experience but thank you for pulling the tail out of the chicken I guess?

I also find it extremely hilarious that you think I have ever hated on the game- guess all those people who called me a white knight feels really silly now.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Celestina.2894:

Morrigan.2809:

Sorry Lanfear but this patch is not the same as same old complaints that the sky is falling.
I agree there has been oodles of those since the game launched.

This patch though?

It destroyed so much, just this once I agree that the feeling in game is pretty much the same as on the forum.
Megaserver is a fail for everyone I know

So what makes this complaint any more valid? Is it because YOU and a group of other players dislike it and now it’s suddenly the RIGHT thing to complain about? Is your complaint suddenly SUPERIOR to the complaints of the other group?

Nothing will please every one, it just sounds like this is your first time being on the other end of a change.

She has a valid complaint Celest, and she does quantify it by stating ‘people she knows.’ It’s no less valid than my assertion that it’s not a complete fail, since for me, and mine it works out quite well. No need to jump on her.

We can all agree that the implementation is not perfect. It has it flaws, but that is to be expected with such things. Honestly, the bigger the component, the more likely you will be to find a bug. Nothing is ever fool proof. That’s just how it goes.

However, I think their biggest issue is their instance selection calculation. Based on what they said about what it was supposed to take into consideration and how it was supposed to work vs a lot of the complaints being voiced, it simply sounds like it’s not functioning properly. It really could be that simple. Of course, it could also require to collect and store data for its aggregation, which could take some time; although I personally would have stuck that in long before the actual patch so it could have a head start on data gathering, but again that’s just how my brain works.

I personally think that the selection criteria is broken somehow because I have not actually seen it in effect at all.

Basically what they said would happen and what is happening is not the same thing at all.

What I am very afraid of is that the Megaserver only aggregates gameplay data after implementation- this says to me it will never be fixed.

Certainly they should have waited and fixed the issues before rolling it out across all maps.
That just feels really shortsighted and not considering of the players at all.

Dragonic Elemental.2674:

AysonCurrax.3254:

killed or atleast heavily crippled my community, thats for sure. Doesnt seem like they care much, either though. I am just waiting for their usual pat-self-on-shoulder move on social media along with trying to lure new players to the game with 50% sales or whatever. There has been silence for a week, and the “fixes” that came only added further chaos. Not sure if they have a clue where they are stearing this ship at this point.

How in the world did it heavily cripple your community? Please explain, or are you just complaining because you like complaining?

Community= an identity built up on a server since launch.
Made up of the same people with the same attitudes that like to do the same things.
It is not really hard to understand.
Some servers had great communities, that is why people went there.

How it ruined communities? Find me more than 2 people from your own server on any map- go ahead.
You no longer see the familiar faces- you no longer have the same philosophical discussions, you now longer have server gossip.

Nevermind guild issues and mega bosses.
Nevermind language issues and very different cultures in Eu

but I guess for some quantity= quality

lordkrall.7241:

I wonder how many times GW2 have been killed now.

Hating MegaServer is the “cool thing” right now. Just wait a few weeks and most people will have calmed down and will keep playing as usual, until the next thing to hate comes along (probably the lack of new LS or something like that).

While I don’t disagree with there always being a cool thing to hate….

Megaserver is right up there with Ascended imo- I could ignore Ascended because why not?
Unfortunately Megaserver is in my face all the time.

I miss my friends, I miss my lovely community and I do not want to put up with the crawling people everywhere.

Add to that the trolls and the map chat that now resembles an online dating service/ hate spam.

yeah

I don’t think it will grow on me or just pass by.

Sorry Lanfear but this patch is not the same as same old complaints that the sky is falling.
I agree there has been oodles of those since the game launched.

This patch though?

It destroyed so much, just this once I agree that the feeling in game is pretty much the same as on the forum.
Megaserver is a fail for everyone I know

Zepher.7803:

Yay for Megaservers!

to fix recruiting, just type your server in the message
to fix WvW coordination use a forum

Let me guess- you play on a US server right?