Guild Wars 2

Prism.5649:

While I would definitely like to see some quickness boons for ele (it goes so well with the Air specialization), I do not think Slow fits any ele themes. Slow is more of a mesmer themed condition. I think more sources of Chill would better suit the ele theme than Slow would.

Just my two cents.

I find Slow to work well with Water/Ice thematic of Ele… I would even consider putting slow on the Flash freeze! shout because they’re really lackluster in the current state they’re in (people would only use them for the auras). And maybe even put Quickness on Rebound! That would solve some issues…

But I think the SHout system really needs a work when it comes to Eles.

I kinda thought when I first heard about this class we’d be getting ability to use Quickness. Later on they introduced the new conditions and I was like, we’re definitely getting Slow. It seems perfect….

And then the skills came out and I was a bit sad.

Do you think ANet missed a good opportunity for a new Ele playstyle here?

EDIT: I also mean AoE Quickness and Slow for team play. Not a single person.

How uninsipiring have the Ele Elites becomes, it makes me wanna cry.

I thought if I gave it time it would be fixed but I guess no one raised a suspicion by now.

Everytime I try to sell something it takes me ages to get the copper button to work, and if I run my mouse over silver on my way to copper is stays at silver so instead of changing values of Copper I start changing values of Silver even though my Cursor is on Copper.

This is really annoying.

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

Yeah we’re only missing an Elite fix now. Kinda agree with a complete redo if possible like they did with Guardian’s Tomes

My biggest problem is that Arcane utilities are all about crits, yet their trait is all about conditions. While Glyph utilities are mostly about conditions, while their trait is all about boons

The 2 mechanics should be switched, arcanes would work much better (in pvp) if they gave boons, while glyphs could actually get playable (in pvp) if they had some more conditions to offer.

You are right. I always felt Arcane to be the extra damage properties for Eles but the traits don’t really correspond to that. But if they “balanced” Arcane they would probably add crit chance to traits instead of the skills so I’d prefer them to leave it like this. But yeah the condi on arcane is terrible really

Wolfric.9380:

Give ele a good arcane Elite. Like:

Arcane Field:
Arcane energy creates an elemental flield relatet to atunement.
Recharge 60. Cast Instant. 360 radius. Duration 6s

Fire: Flashfire. Burns all within for 3 Stacks 6s . Creats a fire flield
Water: Arctic waste. 6s Chill and ice flield.
Earth: Spiked ground. 5stacks bleed for 6s and poison field.
Air: Glitterdust: 6s Blind and Light flield

This would be great and might make picking arcane skills over evasive arcana viable and might be an option to go for offensive arcane over cantrips

Yeah we’re only missing an Elite fix now. Kinda agree with a complete redo if possible like they did with Guardian’s Tomes

Hidori.3472:

OP, pls don’t jinx it, pls don’t jinx it, pls…

ArenaNet, see pic below.

Hahaha I’m trying to not jinx it! Hopefully ANet will see a gratitude post by a main Ele user and be happy that they finally made us balanced at least that’s how I feel

Darknicrofia.2604:

the fields are obvious enough to recognize to anyone that has paid enough attention and has played GW2 for more than a month, don’t need to waste voiceover work for it.

Like I said everyone would have the option to toggle it ON and OFF so that both sides are happy.

But I would prefer it would stay ON as Default for newer players.

I came to think about how to improve our team play and it occurs to me, if other team players knew when I was about to cast a specific Combo Field they can prepare their Combo Finishers for the impact.

At the moment, people are randomly casting their Combo Fields hoping that other players will do something about it. They rarely do (except Might Stacking which in the end is usually done by the person who casted the combo field).

So my suggestion is to add an Option in the Settings to enable/disable Combo Field Calling. So when a person activates a Combo Field skill it would say “X players casted a Fire Field.” Also to make them more visible the Field names could be colored the corresponding color in the chat.

Maybe even add enable/disable a character bubble over our heads when we cast a Combo Field Skill, e.g. X player screams in a bubble over their head: “Lava Font!!” But that would be me just running wild with ideas.

scerevisiae.1972:

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

In WvW I can now run a great damage build with Fire/Air/Arcane (can even switch Arcane for Earth or Water) or go with a more melee bunker spec so I don’t think you’ve explored Eles enough (as far as WvW potential goes). Yeah Armor of Earth/Mist Form might seem mandatory but they’re there to give you some baseline protection if things go south. Your damage surely comes from the weapon skills.

You assume too much. I tried no arcane/water, it’s only slightly less damage than no arcane/water, but it’s way less survivable.

Glyphs have now a better synergy with condi builds then they did before which make condi Eles much better (Yes they don’t have to rely on Cantrips sicne they benefit more from Glyphs or Arcane skills).

You lost all credibility with me right there. Burning is pointless in WVW for anything bigger than 5v5. Ele has access to too few condis to sustain reasonable damage in WVW 5+, group condi clears are too numerous and too effective.

Glyphs (and signets and conjures) are as crap as they have ever been.

So I have to reiterate: 2/5 (40%) of our traits are effectively mandatory, and 3/5 (60%) of our utilities are effectively useless. I don’t see how anyone could say Ele is in a good place.

You must understand thatnot all skills are viable in all 3 modes of the game. Obviously in a zerg situation condi ele won’t do much because we don’t have that many conditions to spam crazy like necro can, but in smaller areas like PvP maps or roaming condi Eles are quite viable (not to mention on world bosses and other aspect of pve).

Every profession has it’s standard WvW build that works in that type of situation. It’s not like other professions have so much WvW build diversity.

scerevisiae.1972:

i don’t think anything has changed – if you want to build optimally for WVW or PVP, you’re still stuck with water+arcane+cantrips. 3rd trait line feels fairly optional, so i guess that’s something.

IMO Ele balancing will continue to suck until they stop making the water + arcane lines not mandatory. The best way to do this is make Ele Attunement baseline, and either make other utilities offer equivalent survivability to cantrips, and/or move the cantrip traits out of water.

I note also that glyphs and conjures continue to suck as much as they always have.

So in summary, nearly half our traits are mandatory and half our utilities suck, so no, Ele may be in an OK place when using the cele/water/arcane build but Ele balance is overall still just as bad as it was 3 years ago.

I’ll have to address this a bit.

In WvW I can now run a great damage build with Fire/Air/Arcane (can even switch Arcane for Earth or Water) or go with a more melee bunker spec so I don’t think you’ve explored Eles enough (as far as WvW potential goes). Yeah Armor of Earth/Mist Form might seem mandatory but they’re there to give you some baseline protection if things go south. Your damage surely comes from the weapon skills.

Glyphs have now a better synergy with condi builds then they did before which make condi Eles much better (Yes they don’t have to rely on Cantrips sicne they benefit more from Glyphs or Arcane skills).

I’ve never been a fan of Conjures anyway so I wouldn’t comment on them. IMO they diminish the whole purpose of Ele Swapping but they do serve a purpose whether it’s Might stacking or Deep Freezing a boss or just spamming skill 1 with LH. I do feel a Conjurer is a wrongly name for this sort of Ele because I fail to see it.

I would also add that I hope Ele’s Elite get the Guardian Elite loving (a complete redoing), but other then that I can see all of the Utility skills serving a purpose. Signet build might be needing some buffing or more trait relocating (something like they did with Guardian traits)

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Overall I’m rather saddened that 2 weeks after almost all builds that seem to come out viable are water/arcane/x celestial again

Well I did a good Celestial Burning build (modification of WP’s Sinister Burning Ele). Right now I’m running a full bunker-healing build with Sentinel’s and Runes of the Grove. It’s very fun to play as an Ele. I don’t think people want to share right now.

For once I feel like I can do everything I was 2-trait points short before.

I really want to say Thank You to whoever balanced Eles out. Especially the ones who made Arcane tree so balanced out. I think this one had the most changes and I really like the options I have in all 3 major trait lines.

TBH I’m in a spot where I don’t know which Trait line to replace for the future Tempest. Which IMO means you guys did a good job!

Hahaha I love this!! Reminds me of my own cat-dog relationship. Such small but very awesome detail.

I just wish they updated Ele Elites like they did with the Guardians. And I would be one hell of a lucky Ele

Cerbeius.7129:

Very dark to think Eir died… I think she survived, but that she went Druid (I think most characters will go to the ‘next’ level of their profession) and that she’s going full Staff now.
She reconnected with her son and also with these dire times, she wants to bond again and giving her legendary bow to her own son must mean a lot for him and Eir.

I dunno, my Game of Thrones paranoia has kicked in. First after watching the trailer (scene attached) where they all go down, then later when they announced Dragon Hunter saying that it did have a Lore behind it, and 3rd when I saw Eir’s Lonbow in one of those images.

Well all Ele users have a love-hate kinda relationship with their character. It’s a very dynamic relationship that will surely take you on a rollercoster ride. Out of all professions I find it the 2nd most fun but I still love Eles the most. I think most fun would be a mesmer.

So far it’s obvious Eir is dead. Braham taking on her Longbow, filled with rage towards the Dragons starts his path as a Dragon Hunter.

But what about the rest? You guys think the others survived? Rytlock and Canack (late addition to DE) definitely are. But what about Zojja and Logan? Caithe is probably alive as well since she’ll play a major part in the plot anyways.

Maris.3164:

I don’t think staff is as good as D/F for burning stacks at least. This video by WP might help you, I know I found it interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH-aB4mwAOk

Yeah that’s the one that intrigued me

I love my Staves and I just can’t get used to running D/D (It’s a bit boring to me, I’d rather run Guardian for melee). Is there a possibility for a Staff build that focuses on DPS and Condi pressure (Obviously without Ferocity)

mysticsicness.7598:

Celestial Ele is still very strong and fun to play. Now you have choices.
1) Air/Water/Arcane – focus on playing defensive whilst still putting out decent pressure.
2) Earth/Water/Arcane – for that classic bunker feel.
3) Fire/Water/Arcane – great damage and blind spam

Nice. Should be interesting finally! I always felt like I’m 2 trait points short.

Just wondering since all the stats have moved to weapons/armors/trinkets what’s the status for Celestial Eles. I assume it should be better now right?

It happens very frequently, even with low settings. karka starts overloading my screen with all of her spinning projectiles and I keep crashing 90% of the time.
I hope HoT won’t have as big graphic deals like Karka has.

Well pre-purchase is not for everyone. I hope if HoT goes on sale that the pricing will suit you then.

Thomas.8130:

yeah i’m curious about this too. they were supposed to change lightning hammer too, but didn’t say much. I’m still hoping for a bigger rework of conjures to make them fun and viable

Me too. I really hope they make it a real 2nd weapon choice for Eles rather then 1skill-drop-kinda-weapon.

Seeing as Ice Bow got a boost, it makes me to think that it’s functionality has been reworked and that we only saw “the buff”. Ice Bow was OP to begin with anyway

I like Krytan Zones (Queensdale and old Kessex Hills) but my favorite piece is Lornar’s Pass.

With Condi Guardian and now Reaper, I’m scared that Tempest won’t be enough to survive these encounters.

Jski.6180:

Well they are going to make tornado into a skill type that ele has now the question is what will they changes about it if any thing.

Ideally it will let you still become a tornado but say if it was a sigent becoming a tornado on sigent use with a passive effect of something if you have it up or build for it to always be up.
If they go the cantrip way maybe some type of rampages as one like effect so you get stab and the knock back but you do not lose your skills.
The last would be an arcain and well if they go that way the stander tornado would be op (every hit would crit) so maybe that is where you would want it an arcain skill where you call a tornado at your ground target for say 3 sec.

Well they did say it’s going to Cantrips, but cantrips are insta-cast with no casting time so I dunno… I’d prefer it to be a target or ground-targetable skill. Makes much more in line with Eles, then turning into a Whirling object waiting to just get ranged down. I mean cmon it’s an Elite SKill.

I think Tornado would be an awesome Elite Skill if it was just changed from the current Form into a targeted Skill (maybe even ground-target skill).

That way we would get more Elite options rather then going FGS for mobility or Summon for a tank.

MaXi.3642:

now I got it, you disagree with ANets decision, not with my statement… that quote is really hard to understand

Hahaha I guess so, glad we cleared that out

MaXi.3642:

what? sorry but I didn’t get your point… nice screenshot of ele with scepter… but I don’t see anything what would look like a sword and staff…

My Gandalf disagrees not getting a Sword/Staff option…. image shows a Gandalffy-figurine turned back, walking away in disagreement.

MaXi.3642:

MyPuppy.8970:

I’d rather have it now if no one minds. Please just make staff offhandable.

wont happen… but I can imagine a focus skin which looks like some smaller staff, I remember offhands like this from WoW, so why not here

My Gandalf disagrees.

Mattmatt.4962:

maybe not with tempest spec, but maybe next one, lets all unite and force them to give us this!

But apparently Tempest is bringing Swords to Eles, no other Spec. will do this. SO it’s now or never!

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

……………..words…………

YES! We gotta honor Gandalf!

Imagine they add the system where you can use 2-H weapons and a 1-H weapon similar to Thief, so for example you use your Sword on MH.

You would have all 5 Skills for your Sword but then if you equipped Staff OH, you’d only get the last two Staff skills to go along with your 3 Skills from Sword.

Wouldn’t this be fun? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Charr the big numbers I want dem big heals ! Where do I roll a Monk?

Can we get the names of the every Elite Specializations and their preferred weapons. Pretty please? I’ll send a cookie

Nike.2631:

“Dear ANet, please screw over people who have put in effort I haven’t”

“Dear ANet, as a Vet who’s been with you from GW1 and loyally supported your game since the Beta, could you please take under consideration this suggestion I proposed to improve game experience for everyone, not just new folks. I prefer not to buy a half-completed expansion.”

Belzebu.3912:

The problem is some stuff you can’t do again with a character.
For example, let’s say you get Mastery Point for finishing your Personal Story or completing the World Map, a player shouldn’t be punished for having it complete already and be forced to create a new char just for that while a newer player that was still finishing it will get the reward much easier.

Also, unlock mastery is a thing, progress them is another story.
Veterans will be able to unlock more mastery right when HoT begins but we’ll still need to progress each one from 0.

I mean the points we “gathered” from leveling up a lvl 80 character for 2.7 years now and stuff like that.

I know many things so far have been rewarded retroactively as a progress for Vets, but can you not do this with Masteries system? Let everyone start from scratch.

Reason I say this is because everyone complains that they don’t have much to do and if many of us (including myself) get enough points to unlock all the Masteries we won’t get to experience the progression like someone who’s new would. Thanks.

why not wait? prepare the gifts (except for the gift of bifrost). VBut if you like it that much craft it now I guess or wait for precursor crafting.

Considering rewards we get for completing World Bosses I wouldn’t expect major game-changing rewards.

OrcishFury.1058:

Those are your team colours. Head in the options and disable it. Notice that you are in wvw. The colour represents your server colour.

LOL LAAMEEE hahahahahahaahahahaha feels like a newb

Red Queen.7915:

Unequip – equip?
My shoes looked weird the other day, so that’s what I tried and it helped. Re-dying before that, however, didn’t do a thing. After putting the shoes back on, they looked completely normal again.

That didn’t work. Now it changed color to red

SO I just got in the game and got this mail. Is it real or is it a scam? I reported just in case but I’d love to raise the situation to others because it almost fooled me.

This only happened on my Mesmer. I haven’t logged on her for few days but when I did I noticed her armor blue. I thought it might have been a reset or something so I tried to redye her but it didn’t work. All the dyes just show a different blue color.

HELP! Now I’m scared of changing dyes on my other toons.

EDIT: I do use SweetFx but that would affect all my other characters right?

I played a Revenant this Beta so I’ll leave a comment about them. Since this Beta is basically a Demo from PAX and Rezz I don’t see how to comment much on those.

1. Revenant – The skill set looks very interesting. Jalis was very easy to understand (that’s why probably most played with that Legendary) but Mallyx was a bit complicated. I can see Mallyx like a condition manipulator (which I applause for bringing a new playstyle) but with Celestial right now and the time limit I wasn’t able to theorycraft much. Mace seems like a fine condi weapon but we’ll need an OH that works too. Also I

I don’t see Axe being used much because the pull radius is really small. If it was like Temporal Curtain it might be better.

I have a problem with Hammer’s 3rd skill. The animation is really slow and as cool as it looks I think it should be faster.

Elites seem a bit underwhelming. I’m affraid that they don’t end up like Elementalist’s Elites. Their duration is really low to make any difference.

As for the zone it was very fun to play them all, and I was happy to see how we all organized together to beat the Legendary Wyveryn. t was an interesting fight and I think he was toned down in the Beta so I’m expecting more power from him in the release. We’re no longer in starter zones, fights should be challenging like in Orr.

That Scroll of Knowledge doesn’t seem to work. I didn’t get any Mastery point.

EDIT: It might be because in this demo we’re locked at 3 Mastery Points.

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