Guild Wars 2

Im sorry…. but HoD isn’t skillful because because they didn’t have the lead during prime time? Lets look at some facts.

During prime time HoD was neck and neck with both SBI and ET even though both servers were focusing them with the majority of their servers.

I am sorry how does that make HoD less skillful? I dare any other server to take 2 T1 servers on and hold current PPT while lowering the other 2 servers PPT.

You guys are so full of yourselves its not even funny.

Heres some screen shots taken during last nights primetime, Please note the time stamps on my minimap….. it clearly shows a massive offensive by BOTH ET and SBI on HoD’s door step at garrison…. BOTH servers working to take the garrison which they didn’t even after HOURS of attacking.

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And you have the nerve to jump in with comments about them not having skill? lol.

Time for a reality check.

If both T1 servers weren’t hell bent on HoD, and HoD had room to breath instead of having to defend 2 servers all day….. well things would be much much different. But thats neither here nor there, because thats the game. But heres the thing HoD is keeping pace during primetime PPT wise with two servers primarily focusing them…. some of you need to take your pride and put in your pockets and stop with the trash.

Its starting to stink. Win or lose its good pvp.

Pretty proud of our server, held garrison throughout the night while just being utterly hammered by both SBI/ET at the same time. Was an epic defense.
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Basically attack at every angle, at one point ET was on the wall trebbing into our commander room with SBI pounding on the Inner gate just below ET… epic fight to say the least.

We held on to garrison in the end

Its a known fact that if SBI is seiging henge ET is probably on the other side seiging the same fort at the same time…. so cry and whine about off peak losing but fact is henge has no choice but to defend during prime time when both servers that are top tier are sieging their forts nonstop. Not saying they are allied simply pointing out the situation, which your failing to grasp…. if we did not make up the points at night…. well we would slip further behind. WvWvW is not a bout short term winning, its about the long term…. if you dont have active players at night your servers fault not HoD’s… if HoD has two servers gunning for them thats fine its part of the game part of strategy who cares…. its good fun, we might lose we might pull out and catch up for a win. Either way acting like you have more skill as a server during primetime is just stupid especially when you know that the other server is also hammering the server your trying to take out and not really messing with you. Get over yourselves seriously.

Oh and fyi ppt was pretty much neck and neck during primetime….. no one was losing by a severe amount at any time.

Cardboardbox…. did you not look at my screen shots? lol….. answers your question. look at the time stamps…. 630 pm.

CardboardBox.6087:

“HoD is literally fending off two servers at the same time, the fact that they are staying in the game point tick wise….. If HoD gets third in this match up its only because they were outnumbered every prime time encounter by 2 top tier servers…. which is just fine, if thats how you want to get your wins.”

@Namu. obviously henge never speaks about their massive night weekday advantages where they have more night players during oceanic hours than both SBI and ET combined. They conveniently forget how big an advantage they have. They simply focus on things that don’t go their way.

Wrong HoD doesn’t say anything really about winning or losing… the majority of us just like the pvp. and 2v1 in this match up has been loads of fun. What I dont like is the fact that people seem to think since HoD is losing atm during primetime hours that they are some how lesser and this and that. But really we are just outnumbered primetime when 2 servers are focusing us. ET has alot of off hours players as well… and are actively trying to get more. SBI also has a huge off time base… the difference is those off time players aren’t as dedicated to WvW as the HoD night crews.

HoD holds as much as they can during the day while getting hammered by two servers, then clean up and take back at night.

Little side note ive never seen SBI at night with a outmanned buff. Only ET. So really its not that we have more combined, your night players just aren’t that dedicated. Dont know what to say. Just how the game is played and designed… same with the double teaming going on right now, its all part of the design. Roll with it or dont.

The only problem I have is the smack talk towards HoD lol….. its like 15 people zerging one person then jumping up and down talking smack like it took some amazing skill to beat him and he is clearly inferior for losing to 15 people.

Im sorry but if you are on SBI or ET you have no place to talk down to HoD when both servers are just hammering them to try and beat them lol.

We lose at primetime? of course and heres why…. if your gonna talk smack about a server at least beat them legit by yourself. Note the time stamps on these screen shots, and then tell me that you think SBI/ET are not out for blood lol nor that they are basically ignoring each other and just focusing on HoD…. I see them fight each other if they go inot their little zone of attack during sieging HoD but thats it.
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HoD is literally fending off two servers at the same time, the fact that they are staying in the game point tick wise….. If HoD gets third in this match up its only because they were outnumbered every prime time encounter by 2 top tier servers…. which is just fine, if thats how you want to get your wins. But doesn’t give you any right to talk smack about them when they are still on par with both servers while being singled out by both servers.

Case in point right now SBI is attacking our north gate at garrison and ET attacking on the opposite side.

lol.

Vehementi.1094:

Namu.5712:

Vehementi.1094:

Sky.9347:

Hype.9361:

HoD only does well in off hours because they have a lot of foreigners getting free caps. That’s why they lose during primetime and comeback when everyone is asleep or at work / school.

Hey now let’s be fair.

They don’t “lose during primetime”. Seriously, the HoD primetime guys are good. You give them an hour without constant pressure, and they take their keep back and begin pushing you out of their land quickly.

But they also aren’t better than everyone else.

Did HoD make any progress beyond their 2 towers + keep this weekend on HoD map? They certainly didn’t on Friday and Saturday…

Lets see how well you do with 2 equally skilled servers gunning for your server lol…. the heat is off and they are doing their thing now.

The heat is off, as in their opponents are not playing the videogame at this time? And they’re “doing their thing” of capping undefended / outmaned objectives? OK

now your just trolling, good-day.

Thesilentflute.8761:

About that battle last night in stone mist there was somthing fishy going on there idk if its posable to lagswitch WvW but after hod grabed sm and not before the lag was so bad you could not use your skills with out a at least 10s delay. I have been in larger battles with no issues.

intel i7 gtx 470 sli

lag happened…. i logged in the other night same thing while out pve’ing. Logged in 4 hours later… lag gone. It happens.

Tali.4259:

Namu.5712:

Tali.4259:

Hopefully the trolls and hooligans, who have all week complained and QQ’ed about SBI and ET focusing on HoD, have paid attention to this thread. There was a reason to focus HoD hard over the weekend. Everyone on both servers knew that come Sunday night all bets were off. You get the points you can and deny them the points when you can because we have more dead times than they do and although we had 2 1/2 days to focus them, they have all week to regain ground and still come out on top.

So for the few but vocal that screamed ZOMG ALLIANCE QQ CHANGE MY DIAPER PLOX…….hopefully the method to the madness now makes sense.

The fact that HoD maintained a 200ish point tick throughout the weekend with 2 servers chomping at the bit to smash them is impressive in itself as well.

Don’t get me wrong, there is no discredit to HoD at all. Amazing server and I personally have respect for them. The point was made to the QQ’ers, even a few from our own server who swore up and down we had an alliance with ET…..when if they were the strategical genuises they raved they were, they would have realized the intent had squat to do with allying with ET and more focused on winning what we could, while we could.

Right I dont think there was any hey lets team up and kill HoD it was more like SBI: Okay guys pressure hod hard we aren’t really worried about ET.
ET: ZOMG KILL HOD WE HATE THEM /ERAGE /enter ruin zerg and stream bandwagoners.

Tali.4259:

Hopefully the trolls and hooligans, who have all week complained and QQ’ed about SBI and ET focusing on HoD, have paid attention to this thread. There was a reason to focus HoD hard over the weekend. Everyone on both servers knew that come Sunday night all bets were off. You get the points you can and deny them the points when you can because we have more dead times than they do and although we had 2 1/2 days to focus them, they have all week to regain ground and still come out on top.

So for the few but vocal that screamed ZOMG ALLIANCE QQ CHANGE MY DIAPER PLOX…….hopefully the method to the madness now makes sense.

The fact that HoD maintained a 200ish point tick throughout the weekend with 2 servers chomping at the bit to smash them is impressive in itself as well.

Vehementi.1094:

Sky.9347:

Hype.9361:

HoD only does well in off hours because they have a lot of foreigners getting free caps. That’s why they lose during primetime and comeback when everyone is asleep or at work / school.

Hey now let’s be fair.

They don’t “lose during primetime”. Seriously, the HoD primetime guys are good. You give them an hour without constant pressure, and they take their keep back and begin pushing you out of their land quickly.

But they also aren’t better than everyone else.

Did HoD make any progress beyond their 2 towers + keep this weekend on HoD map? They certainly didn’t on Friday and Saturday…

Lets see how well you do with 2 equally skilled servers gunning for your server lol…. the heat is off and they are doing their thing now.

shortcake.8659:

Good work guys, you successfully logged in more players than the other servers combined!

Congrats you unwittedly double teamed us during the weekend!

Not on purpose of course but what do you expect to happen when both servers your fighting are gunning for you…. 2 skilled servers at that in the top tier.

Now HoD is striking where you are weak no need to be snide about it.

mangocheesecake.1487:

I think SBI and ET proved their point (that they can beat HoD) during the weekend, I myself slept super early so i can wake up at 4~5am and fill in our weaker shifts. There are a couple of people I see on TS doing the same. Fact is that we can’t do that during the week, but it just mean we need to recruit more offpeak players so eventually we can be a strong 24/7 server.

What you dont understand though is when your server gets big, primetime means our powerhouse guilds and alliances cant get in to wvwvw against other structured guilds. Because our ques are full of pugs that just do whatever (sometimes).

At night and during the week we do better because we are able to get more of our alliance in and take things back.

Just wait till over half your guild online during a wvwvw reset cant get in to secure a foothold for like the first 4-5 hours. You will change your tune im sure because its very frustrating… okay guys they are resetting…… OKAY ITS UP GO GO GO…… wtf que… not even 3 seconds after a reset… and not even half our alliance got in lol.

Where as on a samller server like ET/SBI your strong guilds get in no problem to do their thing 500 premade vs 200 premade and 300 randoms…. guess who has the winning advantage now do the same for ET and you both focus on the server that couldn’t get all their good players in because of its size…. congrats you want a cookie for winning a weekend fight? because its the next 5 days that matter not the first 2.

Your complaining about hod night capping everything yet, its perfect strategy when both servers both focus them so they cant even make a move during prime time putting them in 3rd… BUT OH HEAVEN FORBID THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE WHEN BOTH SERVERS CANT BOTH POUND ON THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

I’m sorry but thats just lame to complain about them using the time they have when you guys are weaker.

Because you know as well as everyone else ET could really care less about SBI and SBI really dont care about ET…. you guys are focused on crushing hod…. there may be no verbal communication or truce between you but your forces aren’t actively trying to crush SBI nor was SBI trying to crush ET you were both going after HoD at the same time basically ignoring each other….. They are now taking advantage of your weak night game to make up lost time/point when they got hammered by two good servers.

Just like when they got double teamed…. its strategy. I heard ruin/ET boasting about getting more oceanic players and such as well in a thread long since past in another forums…. so no complaining because others are trying to get night coverage as well…. and if you had it you wouldn’t be complaining.

I dont think there was intentional double teaming after the first incident…. I think both SBI and ET came into the match with their eyes on HOD and basically tunnel visioned fighting hod instead of each other….. HOD is a good WvWvW server no doubt with skilled players but, taking heat from two servers that are solely focused on destroying their winning streak is what we are seeing.

ET is probably like dont worry about SBI, dont let HOD do anything and SBI is probably the same mind set… while there may be no verbal he dont kill us type thing going on both servers are focused on beating hod rather then each other. And all 3 servers are impressive in pvp so of course hod is going to lose this war. Will it continue each new match up? who knows.

I hear SBI has alot of players from aion on it…. thats all I need to say.

emoleas.4309:

woah now. lets not turn this into a thread about double teaming. That occurred for LESS THAN 7 HOURS.

There is no longer ANY kind of ceasefire or double teaming. I’ll have to write up the next part quicker than I wanted to. Expect it within the next hour in that case. Please, leave discussion of double teaming OUT OF THIS THREAD. In fact, if anything, the 3rd screenshot shows us double teaming ET in the first couple hours.

Thank you.

in a highly competitive match up that 7 hours was all that was needed to crush the winning servers chances unless the servers that double teamed just roll over for the next 5 days and do nothing…. which is perfectly fine… im just sayin.

Not sure why anyone is surprised. Any time a mmo introduces a stealth class everyone calls op till the class is made virtually worthless in both pve and pvp….. good luck fellow thief’s and pray that Anet isn’t like everyone else with the nerf bat.

wrajjt.2516:

Then what do you suggest Anet does to improve this? Whining is easy, providing constructive criticism is hard.

Allowing more players per map? Lolno, those maps are already cramped as it is.
“Instancing the maps”? Lolno, that would destroy the whole WvW thing.
Providing an alternative for non-80’s? Now we are getting somewhere…
AFK removal system and less mining nodes is also an idea…

I get so tired when I read people’s posts, DEMANDING stuff from Anet without providing anything constructive.

I am sorry but he didn’t demand anything. He said its something to consider because people are getting fed up.

Please read and comprehend the entire post before ranting about how tired you are of people demanding things, when that wasn’t even what happened.