Guild Wars 2

Yasha.5963:

docMed.7692:

Yasha.5963:

Haha, OP it is you who are clearly exaggerating. Check out this thread from the spvp forums where ranger is ranked worst or equal worst of all professions for spvp in nearly every post:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Rank-dem-Professions-V2/page/2#post734766

In fact it is only on the ranger forums that you can find people who actually think they are any good.

Crazy to think the people who play the class may know a thing or two about them and/or be the most knowledgable. Nonetheless, they are talking about Rangers in usefulness/utility for spvp, which they are fairly low in my opinion. Nonetheless, in 1v1 scenarios they excel very well.

Yes they are talking about how good ranger is for spvp-OP claims they are gods that can’t be killed. Ranger can do well in 1vs1, especially against noobs, if specced correctly-doesn’t make them the best option to bring to a fight.

You have horrible logic. Many people claim that warriors are gods with “broken 100b burst” or thieves have broken back stab bursts, but like you said those work well especially against noobs too right? Great logic is great.

People who can’t play a class usually love to over exaggerate a classes inability to perform well to make up for the fact that they are not playing the class properly. And you misinterpreted everything I have mentioned in the original post, did I say ranger was the best class? Do you expect every class to be perfectly balanced? Please exit that dream world of yours.

lol rangers counter warriors for days. You must be playing really bad rangers.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Nuzt.7894:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Nuzt.7894:

Rangers are the bottom of the barrel currently, but maybe if every other profession was nerfed we would be ok. I’ve always been a firm believer that no class should ever 1 or 2 shot anyone. Long battles are far more enjoyable then 2 second fights, no class in the game should be critting for over 10k. If most classes have roughly 20k life why are there classes critting for 20-30k ? Bad design is bad.

If you are being 1shotted by a thief I’m afraid you are either using a terribly bad build or just doing it very wrong. Trap condi ranger is a STRONG counter against thieves.

Don’t you have another forum to troll ? Please point out where in my post at any point that thief was mentioned ? If your going to try and look whitty at least read the posts otherwise you just look like a complete kitten.

I actually feel like I’m the one being trolled here. Are you so bad that you get hit by kill shot? Is that honestly something you can complain about lol. Sure I’ll understand getting hit by a backstab combo once in awhile because you aren’t ready but kitten, even when I’m in battle because of the fov I can see a warrior kneeling from miles away and avoid that.

Not asuran warriors, much harder to know when they are kill shotting. I land kill shot via rifle butt and frenzy, so easy to get a kill shot off then.

kill shot focused / 100b focused builds are gimmicky, don’t know why people complain about them.

Nuzt.7894:

NaturalPortman.9562:

docMed.7692:

We all agree the ranger is underpowered – why are we having discussions on it to what degree they are? Fact is ArenaNet needs to actually start putting in place corrections they indicated long ago would be and these conversations that just go in circles (I’ve literally seen hundreds of these threads) are pointless. Read the archive of posts.

It’s just annoying to see people complaining about the wrong things. Like I just read a thread about how ranger dies 1-2 hits no matter what. Like that must be a joke right?

If your talking about my post you need to re-read it yet again, nothing about rangers specifically dying in 1-2 shots. Carry on.

“Like I just read a thread about how ranger dies 1-2 hit no matter what”
Clearly it was not about you, carry on.

Titan.1580:

Hey NaturalPortman…

could you specify what this ‘unkillable’ Ranger build is?

thanks

You can build on how you like to play, but I personally bunker with 30 in marksmanship (I run 3 signets) then spec the rest into regen/ vigor traits. Other options are using “protect me” but I dislike it. Make sure you get the dodge for protection trait as it synergizes with vigor extremely well. I use the 6x Lyssa runes incase I run into a dirty necro and turn all his condis into boons, but dwayna runes work extremely well too. And finally I my weapon set is GS / sword dagger. Yes great sword. GS 4 is almost too amazing now. With healing spring I have 3 leap finishers for 3x aoe healing (sword 2 comes off cooldown to do twice then GS 3)
This is just my playstyle though, trap condi tank build works amazing as well with cleric amulet, and I almost forgot I equip the cleric amulet.

Sorry for the huge clump of words, was too lazy to write it properly and organize it.

Arrys.7145:

Well if you can’t tell there is a large corp’s that hates pets. I myself avoided maximizing them for too long before working on how to utilize them. Once you accept the pet mechanic and work on integrating them warts and all there are some decent options.

Masters Bond people, it’s not just for PvE it works in Tpvp with high benefit. Thanks Durzlla for posting on that… I’m a tester and I had accepted the it’s a pve trait mantra. Wrong it’s even better in PvP I think.

Arguably 10 in beastmastery is a must. Doubt I’ll play another build without at least that. It really shines at 30 BM however. And if your delivering AOE damage you get to 25 stacks pretty fast. At which point you are a force of nature or your pet is.

Embrace the pet….You are balanced around it… And it has some pretty sweet options utility and damage.

Or embrace the traps….

Or I imagine in a shaman amulet build both is conceivable….

If you can’t embrace the pet or a pure condition build the class can be a bit frustrating ATM. I still can’t embrace condition something about SB 1 spam haste drop circles annoys me. Just don’t find playing it rewarding.

Class needs work and improvement but has some enjoyable options.

Agreed, people don’t know the sheer power of ravens. And don’t pet swap often enough / don’t know when to pet swap. Pet swap for the quickness short burst / to get your pet in range for it’s attacks. I’ve also noticed that spamming f2 right after pet swap activates the skill more efficiently.

Titian Vecelli.2584:

Thelm.6591:

So I did. I swapped to my boon duration/tank/BM (0/0/20/25/25) melee ranger build (Greatsword/Sword-Warhorn) and proceded to get top kills, point captured, and glory in the next 9 matches. I 1v1’d anyone, and 1v2’d some classes. Then another ranger ended up on my team, the two of us could 2v3, and could (if only just barely survive) 2v4’s.

Mind if I ask what traits you are using?

hes most likely specced into regen traits / protection traits/ and maybe the shout protect me. something like that.

I highly suspect people calling the ranger class useless the same rangers I fight who stand their ground spamming shortbow 1 expecting to burst down a class. Am I right?

atheria.2837:

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Disagreed. Rangers are extremely powerful 1v1, which brings it to the issue of the only game mode currently. Conquest requires team battles and most part basically no 1v1s. Ranger just doesn’t shine in the meta game, the class isn’t as weak as you all think.

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Really? Ok, show me your 80 Ranger with stats or stop griefing.

level 80 ranger? No wonder you QQ alot, talking about wvw LOL.

edit: I’ll gladly 1v1 you, pick and choose your class in a empty server room. From how poorly you talk about the ranger class I can already tell you are mediocre with any other class.

DaisyRogers.6837:

NaturalPortman.9562:

I actually use an extremely tanky build with this weapon set as well. Amazing for stealing points / interrupting stomps and the likes. I absolutely love GS/LB, but I switch off for either LB/sword and dagger or GS/Sword dagger .

Really depends on my team / situation.

Same, except GS / sword horn, GS and sword have amazing synergy together. And tanky works well for ranger because going tanky doesn’t effect your pets damage.

I’m not a huge fan of the warhorn cause I feel it doesn’t flow well with sword but whatever floats your boat haha. Yeah rangers regen is a beast, and those 6k raven hits are pretty kitten beefy and keeps your opponent on their toes while you eat away at their health.

Thelm.6591:

So, after all the hubub caused by the patch I wanted to post something happy about being a ranger.

After looking at the patch notes I got saddened (o more warrior buffs) and I quickly logged off. I was even not considering playing this weekend’s events. As today came by I thought to myself “You know what? I’m going to go do spvp, and I’m going to tear kitten up.”

So I did. I swapped to my boon duration/tank/BM (0/0/20/25/25) melee ranger build (Greatsword/Sword-Warhorn) and proceded to get top kills, point captured, and glory in the next 9 matches. I 1v1’d anyone, and 1v2’d some classes. Then another ranger ended up on my team, the two of us could 2v3, and could (if only just barely survive) 2v4’s.

I know there are some issues with ranger, but we’re not totally broken!

As far as people saying that sword cant be used pish posh! It’s actually my favorite auto attack on the ranger (Of course the timing can be hard, but once you get good at it you can actually use the leaps to juke your foe)

We are going to get some changes (mind you I’m not expecting them to be very soon). But holy cow, I had no idea that there are only two people doing balance changes! I mean, wow, that is a ton of work they have on their plate. You can be absolutely positive they are working hard on the game, even if at times it doesn’t seems as such.

- Thelm Cyrrian, Stormbluff Isle

sword auto attack is great against thieves. Stealth doesnt save them because the rooting tracks them down rofl

docMed.7692:

We all agree the ranger is underpowered – why are we having discussions on it to what degree they are? Fact is ArenaNet needs to actually start putting in place corrections they indicated long ago would be and these conversations that just go in circles (I’ve literally seen hundreds of these threads) are pointless. Read the archive of posts.

It’s just annoying to see people complaining about the wrong things. Like I just read a thread about how ranger dies 1-2 hits no matter what. Like that must be a joke right?

Nuzt.7894:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Nuzt.7894:

Rangers are the bottom of the barrel currently, but maybe if every other profession was nerfed we would be ok. I’ve always been a firm believer that no class should ever 1 or 2 shot anyone. Long battles are far more enjoyable then 2 second fights, no class in the game should be critting for over 10k. If most classes have roughly 20k life why are there classes critting for 20-30k ? Bad design is bad.

If you are being 1shotted by a thief I’m afraid you are either using a terribly bad build or just doing it very wrong. Trap condi ranger is a STRONG counter against thieves.

Don’t you have another forum to troll ? Please point out where in my post at any point that thief was mentioned ? If your going to try and look whitty at least read the posts otherwise you just look like a complete kitten.

I actually feel like I’m the one being trolled here. Are you so bad that you get hit by kill shot? Is that honestly something you can complain about lol. Sure I’ll understand getting hit by a backstab combo once in awhile because you aren’t ready but kitten, even when I’m in battle because of the fov I can see a warrior kneeling from miles away and avoid that.

I actually use an extremely tanky build with this weapon set as well. Amazing for stealing points / interrupting stomps and the likes. I absolutely love GS/LB, but I switch off for either LB/sword and dagger or GS/Sword dagger .

Really depends on my team / situation.

atheria.2837:

You (Guild Wars 2) stated that you would do more if we posted in these darned forums, but all of us know that you have lied to us and we are getting sick of it.

No, this isn’t real life but it is important to those of us who spent the money and who play this game to get out of it what you promised which was balance between the classes and professions.

Our pets are underpowered.

Our weapons are underpowered.

Our skills are underpowered.

And that is compared to all other professions available.

How about doing the right thing and re-doing Ranger to the standard of a Warrior or Protector but this isn’t a Ranger… This is a joke.

Disagreed. Rangers are extremely powerful 1v1, which brings it to the issue of the only game mode currently. Conquest requires team battles and most part basically no 1v1s. Ranger just doesn’t shine in the meta game, the class isn’t as weak as you all think.

Nuzt.7894:

docMed.7692:

30K? What class is critting for 30K? lol…

Warrior Rifle Kill Shot, checkout you tube some time theres plenty of clips on it.

You mean the video where the warrior preys on squishy people who are not level 80 and not geared? WOW AMAZING!! Are you also talking about the attack that is basically useless in actual pvp?

Nuzt.7894:

Rangers are the bottom of the barrel currently, but maybe if every other profession was nerfed we would be ok. I’ve always been a firm believer that no class should ever 1 or 2 shot anyone. Long battles are far more enjoyable then 2 second fights, no class in the game should be critting for over 10k. If most classes have roughly 20k life why are there classes critting for 20-30k ? Bad design is bad.

If you are being 1shotted by a thief I’m afraid you are either using a terribly bad build or just doing it very wrong. Trap condi ranger is a STRONG counter against thieves.

Especially people who claim that rangers do poorly in SPVP. Ranger is slightly under-powered in terms of the meta in tournament style PVP but I wouldn’t say by much.

No one seems to understand how fast a ranger can put pressure on a player with conditions while still having decent survivability. Not to mention that there is a build that basically leaves you unkillable, or atleast until your team members can come kill off the attackers for you.

People seriously need to start to learn how to use their pets properly, for example I use double ravens because their high damage synergizes well with my build, not to mention they seem to hit running targets a lot more efficiently.

I’m not a ranger pro or do I claim to be but you guys make it seem like the class has absolutely nothing and I strongly disagree with that.

But before all of you guys start posting angry replies, yes the ranger has issues that should be addressed and is slightly weak at the moment.

entangle is the worst elite skill in the game. It literally does 0 damage to anyone who knows how to remove conditions. Not to mention it has no use other than slow constant bleed damage and immob which can be immediately cleansed out of.

Project Shrine Maiden.9623:

that’s because people in tpvp don’t have to put up with stuff like this.

I’m a tpvper and I regularly run into 5 man thief teams and 5 man guardian teams. Not fun.

Yuudai.5268:

I would love to see greatsword/melee combat items get some reworking

Traits need some reworking too…

some is a understatement. none of the ranger trait lines are properly organized. But yes I completely agree with making GS usable.

fishergrip.4082:

Mesmers excel at 1v1. My suggestion is run away and get backup, because you will never beat a decent mesmer with a ranger. Mesmers are especially hard for rangers because confusion absolutely destroys the shortbow, they have projectile reflection and rangers don’t have good AOE or burst to get rid of clones and phantasms quickly.

Lol you have no idea about the matchups. Mesmer vs ranger is pretty kitten hard for the mesmer if you know how ranger should be played at all. And people who ignore confusion are automatically bad.