Guild Wars 2

Not sure why you would put 5 points into the first line, that trait is basically garbage imo.

Taym.8326:

daydream.2938:

Taym.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

ensoriki.5789:

Thief traps CD starts immediately upon being planted.
Banners CD starts immediately upon being planted.
Spirits CD starts immediately upon being planted.

Hence you can plant an Ambush trap as a thief, CD will wear off, Opponent steps on it, plant it again and have 2 thieves active at once.

My mistake then, well if this is working as intended then everything else should be like this as well..?

Also Necro marks which are the closest thing that is commonly used operates the exact same way.

Mosharn.8357:

daydream.2938:

ive heard gasmask mention that the CD should start once the trap is sprung. probably would be a good change, and the only chnage necessarry rangers not brokenly op or anything.

agreed. This seems like a reasonable change and wont hurt trap rangers overall.

Actually this would detract from the ability, what happens if you misplace the trap once and no one hits it for the entire game? would you continually be able to throw until one lands on the target as penalizing one failed throw is too much. Meaning the ranger could theoretically have two traps in the air of the same type making traps actually stronger than they are now? This is a bad idea, that can if handled poorly would severely cripple or strengthen the spec.

Instead they could fix empathetic bond to hit rangers where they already hurt, in their personal and pet survivability. This would make traps still remain strong but forcing players to choose between trip traps and condition removal, or taking empathetic bond but sacrificing pets to higher HP ones lowering their overall damage.

You can recast the trap as much as you want. The old one dissapears. once its sprung, it goes on cd.

The current way it works, is that the trap does not “disappear” until a new one of that type lands, not is thrown. So you would be able to throw a trap, the another of the same type immediately after without removing the first trap, the first one lands and hits someone triggering the cooldown, the second trap which is still in transit can not be retroactively removed, so it also lands allowing for double traps. Without adding two cooldown system(a post trap throw and a cooldown on trigger) I don’t see that happening, and I doubt that they would add the code for just the specific case as necro marks, and a few other skills in the game use the exact same cd style.

Turrets are basically traps in a sense and it doesn’t seem one bit fair that if ours explode we are left defenseless for 30-60 seconds don’t you think?

ensoriki.5789:

Thief traps CD starts immediately upon being planted.
Banners CD starts immediately upon being planted.
Spirits CD starts immediately upon being planted.

Hence you can plant an Ambush trap as a thief, CD will wear off, Opponent steps on it, plant it again and have 2 thieves active at once.

My mistake then, well if this is working as intended then everything else should be like this as well..?

Mosharn.8357:

isnt it the same for thief traps?

No idea, possibly. Not really relevant though seeing as thief traps are pretty kitten underwhelming.

I would like a dev to answer this in the thread if possible.

Are rangers traps working as intended? It seems that they’re the only class with “plant” utilities that start their CD as soon as you plant them. If they are working as intended do you plan to change the CD for other classes utilities as well?

It would be nice to have my turrets start their cool down as soon as I plant them because their biggest problem at the moment is lack of movement in the turrets + the high cd’s that don’t start when you plant them.

nakoda.4213:

for pistol 4 to work you have to face your enemy. not your camera, but your avatar. pistol “kittens” because you’re doing it wrong.

Why do you assume I’m not already doing this. Why would I turn away and look the complete opposite way when I’m attacking someone. Offhand pistol is too glitchy for me to take.

I’ve tried a very similar build to this and it isnt too great imo. Not enough damage, not enough aoe pressure. The second your quickness elixir is on CD you’re basically useless because your damage becomes kitten Atm the only way to apply bleeds decently is grenades and even that’s not that great. And offhand pistol is the kittentiest piece of crap in this game because the torch always hits to the side and misses for no reason.

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Alarox.4590:

NaturalPortman.9562:

I’m pretty sure the nerf was just to grenades 1 spam skill. But nerf doesn’t affect me that much.

So 30% nerf to 90% of the damage instead.

not rly, grenade barrage is my bread and butter heuehueh DAT 9 K CRIT

Archaon.6245:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Archaon.6245:

it’s going to be fixed…noone should have F skills when downed (Everyone must have his 4 skills: Dmg, fast interrupt, long interrupt and normal heal…nothing more nothing less, just make all bars pretty much the same and drop crap like vengeance and stuff) not mentioning dead pets healing like kitten and crap like that, just wait and everything is gonna be ok.

So are they gunna remove rangers downed pet quickness trait too?

I don’t know what they’re going to do…all i’m saying is to make ALL downed bars equal and leave just some “traitable” things like 50% more dmg or 50% more life when downed that someone can take spending trait slots….but downed skills must be the same for everyone, maybe different animations with cool loking fancy glittering sparks or kitten…but with the same skill effect, dmg and healing for every class….

i just call this…balance..

Yah ur right, we should remove classes too and give every a “punch 1” “punch 2” “punch3” “punch 4” and a “punch 5” skill.

Archaon.6245:

it’s going to be fixed…noone should have F skills when downed (Everyone must have his 4 skills: Dmg, fast interrupt, long interrupt and normal heal…nothing more nothing less, just make all bars pretty much the same and drop crap like vengeance and stuff) not mentioning dead pets healing like kitten and crap like that, just wait and everything is gonna be ok.

So are they gunna remove rangers downed pet quickness trait too?

Zenith.7301:

How do you deal with mesmers? I have a mesmer of my own, and find that the hardest counter to shattercat mesmers is to kite the living hell out of them, dodge the Magic Bullet, and deny them iLeap>Swap. Their damage from range is bad and their iLeap has miserable range, so they can’t close distance.

But this ranger builds puts you in a shatter mesmer’s preferred range of combat, of which they are extremely strong in. 1800 toughness on my ranger and a shatter can still halve my health. So, I’m curious as to how you are coping with good mesmers that run sword/pistol+staff to sit you still and land shatters.

I’m also curious as to why you run double raven instead of raven+ wolf? It seems like the wolf fear is pretty kitten strong for controlling groups of people and preventing stomps. Is the extra burst from a second raven really that much better?

Finally, do you find this build usable in PvE gear for WvW? I know it’s garbage for large scale combat, but what gear, runes, rings, amulets would you use in a skirmish WvW build?

P.S. I know I’m making many questions, but I like the idea of greatsword/mainhand sword very much so, and would like to know if you have any tips against CC oriented engineers as well.

For CC oriented engineer I would try to stay out of range until he blew his main CC’s then get in range with your evades and go for the burst.

Zenith.7301:

How do you deal with mesmers? I have a mesmer of my own, and find that the hardest counter to shattercat mesmers is to kite the living hell out of them, dodge the Magic Bullet, and deny them iLeap>Swap. Their damage from range is bad and their iLeap has miserable range, so they can’t close distance.

But this ranger builds puts you in a shatter mesmer’s preferred range of combat, of which they are extremely strong in. 1800 toughness on my ranger and a shatter can still halve my health. So, I’m curious as to how you are coping with good mesmers that run sword/pistol+staff to sit you still and land shatters.

I’m also curious as to why you run double raven instead of raven+ wolf? It seems like the wolf fear is pretty kitten strong for controlling groups of people and preventing stomps. Is the extra burst from a second raven really that much better?

Finally, do you find this build usable in PvE gear for WvW? I know it’s garbage for large scale combat, but what gear, runes, rings, amulets would you use in a skirmish WvW build?

P.S. I know I’m making many questions, but I like the idea of greatsword/mainhand sword very much so, and would like to know if you have any tips against CC oriented engineers as well.

Mesmer is the toughest match up with this build, you really need to be patient and not be trigger happy with your evades. Take the damage you need to take but always make sure you evade the pistol daze or have a stun breaker on hand. If you do end up getting immobed into blurred frenzy / shatter, use the serpent strike. Your whole objective in the fight is to keep on the mesmer and snare him down for your pet and when you do find the perfect opportunity, your raven burst should take him down instantly. It is a tough match though.

Don’t get me wrong I love reading QQ threads but I am wondering what these QQers are really referring to.

I can see the frustration of new players when they deal with mechanics such as stealth, but is it really OP or just cheap???!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!? pls respond.

I compare thieves to online flow chart kens in street fighter, they will most likely kill you the first round because they play like complete idiots, but the next 2 rounds you faceroll them because you know how to fight them. But no one calls Ken OP, they usually refer to him as cheap in online play because they usually mash their 3 frame uppercut. pls respawn

Are thieves cheap or op? That is the question

Raytek.6193:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_Engineer_bugs

Raytek why do you play engi, I heard your team got 5v1ed 500-0d. quit engi pls

Fix double turret heal exploit on engineer, voz exploits it and he wont tell me how so next best thing I can do is get it patched. HUEHUEHUUE

nerva.7940:

Leuca.5732:

nerva.7940:

Leuca.5732:

nerva.7940:

condi bunker builds with cats are way stronger. condi synergizes with wilderness trait line and u simply do more damage. people dont really die to this kind of burst in tpvp. 10-15k from a BS thief, shatter mesmer or d/d ele, maybe. ranger power builds are super gimped, unless u run glass cannon LB in wvw, which is hella fun.

The problem is that the weapons with the highest defense do extremely little condi damage. You are essentially sacrificing bunker abilities, which he is not trying to do.

if you know what youre doing, you dont need too many evades. the right build can get u near perma vigor.

If you are a bunker, you want as many evades as possible; the fact that you can get decent vigor and moderate weapon evasion on a condi build was not the point.

nope, the point was u get vastly superior damage. not only do u have the staying power, but u can actually take people down. this has allowed me to turn many 2v1’s into 1v1’s. 0/0/30/10/30 is one of the best duelists in the game, and i never felt the need to switch to evasion weapons. u laugh at burst thieves, while easily handling d/p, in addition to trap rangers and d/d eles. ive also yet to die 1v1 to a shatterer.

I dont know why this turned into a build wars thread but okay. And ever thought that maybe some people don’t want to play the FOTM condi and or traps.

Ask Vain, he knows just how irritating it is to fight this build.

Oh and I know 1v1 doesn’t mean much but honestly, the only class that can beat/kill this build is a mesmer. And before you trash talk the build again, please actually try to get good with the build before you make any judgements on it. To play this build well you have to think of your character as a support for your pet, as in cripple the enemy etc. Oh and have fun “dodging” the raven 13k burst when I watch your dodges while you are crippled. And have fun killing me when I can use 4 leap finishers on healing spring, while I have 3 evades at my disposal oh and dont forget the 4 (almost consecutive) dodges with vigor.

Anyways, this is why no one plays this kitten game the community is full of unthankful little twinks like you guys (not all of you). Always complaining about how theres only 1 viable build for every class yet you don’t even give other builds a go.

With that said, this build is a great point holding build that specializes in 1v1s and 2v1s. (Build is also very good at rotating between points as it has the hoghest mobility out of all ranger specs). It’s effectiveness is a tad lowered in team fights yes I realise but it is still great at picking off classes such as thieves, necros, warriors for your teammates. Not to mention you can heal condis and grant regen / vigor for your team. Also don’t forget that you still have your elite (which i suggest spirit or entangle). Entangle can win team fights and spirit of nature can give you clutch rezzes giving your team another chance to win that team fight. Now stop being negative nancies, if you don’t like the build don’t play it. I just know I’ve had incredible success with it.

Victory.2879:

Durz, raven has to reach the target- which it tends not to in a group situation (or the target just moves out of range) and the raven merrily flies straight through all the aoe and burst, etc. Works quite nicely 1v1 or very small fights unless you fight an ele or other aoe class in which case the pet is dead before you can say ‘boo!’.

Ever notice that pet swap puts your pet into range?

Schwahrheit.4203:

That’s what they said about LoL, and guess what? They were wrong. Its like starting an entrepreneurship, its a gamble all right but that doesn’t mean it has no way of succeeding. Same concept with E-sports. Except a lot of issues such as accessibility and infrastructure which should’ve been addressed is just killing this game.

cool story bro tell it again

If you have stability you do not fall over.

Have a good day

Grizledorf.5290:

thank you for showing me the awesome burst damage two ravens pulls off. my thief can’t beat it. only shame is I didn’t play Gw1 and the white raven is a hall of monument award. Using raven/eagle in pve, pretty awesome. Switched from Jaguar/bear. Can’t wait to hit 80 on this toon and hit WvW. One thing hoping you can answer is sometimes I click F2 for my Raven to swoop and it will put it on C/D but he won’t do the attack, I think it’s an animation canceling issue.

it is a animation cancel issue. You can remedy it by really paying attention to what your pet is doing

Sol.4310:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Sol.4310:

Levetty.1279:

Based on your posts on the PvP boards I doubt you are as high up the ranks as you claim you are.

As for your build I don’t really like the look of it but I will probably try it out to see how it goes at some point before I make any comments on it.

Don’t worry its only good for dodging and holding points. It has near to no chance of killing anything.

I’ve beaten this build 1v1 with my ranger. I’ve watched D/D roll over it 1v1. Thief’s and Mesmers well you know the outcome.

And love it how you think your pets are you main damage. Let me tell you this at a professional level your pets are useless. Only classes it will hit are Necros/Guardians/Warriors, everyone else takes around 30% damage from the pet’s, there just to much cripple/cloak/chill/evade.

I recommend if your new a ranger finding build fits your play style. This build will not work in WvW, its strictly TPvP. Check out Bunker/Trapper builds they are better then this build.

Why are you lying to people? This build kills people easily. This build counters ele easily as well

Your the one lying here mate. This build might work less skilled players but doesn’t work against skilled players and that’s fact.

The player base is evolving these type of builds are done and dusted.

Lol whatever you say. Your loss.

Sol.4310:

Levetty.1279:

Based on your posts on the PvP boards I doubt you are as high up the ranks as you claim you are.

As for your build I don’t really like the look of it but I will probably try it out to see how it goes at some point before I make any comments on it.

Don’t worry its only good for dodging and holding points. It has near to no chance of killing anything.

I’ve beaten this build 1v1 with my ranger. I’ve watched D/D roll over it 1v1. Thief’s and Mesmers well you know the outcome.

And love it how you think your pets are you main damage. Let me tell you this at a professional level your pets are useless. Only classes it will hit are Necros/Guardians/Warriors, everyone else takes around 30% damage from the pet’s, there just to much cripple/cloak/chill/evade.

I recommend if your new a ranger finding build fits your play style. This build will not work in WvW, its strictly TPvP. Check out Bunker/Trapper builds they are better then this build.

Why are you lying to people? This build kills people easily. This build counters ele easily as well

Look at hibas party picture. How do you play heavy golem class?

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Fjandi.2516:

It’s funny some ppl think bunker rangers can’t do much dmg.
Oh btw i don’t really understand why you posted the build here. I mean this way every kid and his dog can just copy it.
Lol i remember a few months ago bm tree was commonly considered bad, good times. I still like all the qq about 1h sword autoattack tho.

I love hearing about rangers having no burst, bad rangers will always be bad. And I thought I would share with the community because I quit ranger.

The great thing about ranger bunker is that you can kill someone 2v1 if you play exceptionally well. Another great thing is evade attacks don’t decap nodes.

edit: I promise you if you play this build right you will never lose a 1v1. And yes I had to 1v1 many times as a side point bunker whether or not you guys think 1v1ing is a bad idea in tournies it does happen occasionally.

Im glad your sharing, I was a pretty good necro for Team Tsunami and I’ve done all I can to give people tips and builds that are good as a necro. I’ve been playing the Ranger a week now and its in my opinion such a burly class, at times disgusting if pets are working consistently. The only potential things wrong with it from what I can tell is there are other classes that offer more vital things within Tpvp (better tanks, better bursters, team portal/quickness from mesmers, rezzes aoe/poison/condition necro pressure.(but I’m still going to find more niches for it, I think the build I’m making could have a place as a pressurer/roamer/secondary point helper/defender). Let me know what you think of these 2 builds and your thoughts from your ranger background (They are almost identical with slight mods, I’ve min maxed everything within a 30 second fight context to offer highest damage/survivability). I’m gonna give ravens a try now that I see their potential as strictly burst and not just pressure (since they miss more often than the ones I chose).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlJMxew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoQygkAJLSOkkINC5EymAA

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlpzzew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoAzAmAMLYOwkgNC5EymAA

These aren’t too too bad but you will find yourself in some iffy situations OFTEN with this build. When you use your longbow you will feel overwhelmed because after you use your point blank shot you are basically free pickins.

Could you elaborate more? As I see it if I were to compare your builds with the success you had and mine, the weakness is the same “Burst”. If you don’t time a dodge on the important burst/team bursts your toast. Each build has about the same potential vigor/dodges (which seems to be enough to dodge key bursts), yours has more evades (which gives you more chances to evade damage, but the amount of deadly bursts I feel can be handled via dodge knowledge), but in either case if one misses a burst it will hurt, and as I see it, your build will get bursted down faster than the build I’m trying out due to more natural health, and the 50% protection and barkskin (the pets also give you more time via immobilizes and knockdowns/fears). I can see how yours can hold out longer due to more evades, but I’m not sure if thats the role this build needs to fill, since using fury weapon switching, pet combo’s and quickness can put pressure on anyone.

Longbow just isnt a great damage weapon, its VERY situational. You will find yourself in alot of sticky situation when you have longbow out and waiting on the weapon cooldown.

Everyone says that and how you can dodge its #2, but you can dodge as it starts or in the middle, but it still will do 2-3K damage on you, and makes you waste a dodge, the knockback is great, you can utilize a dodge during this point to get vigor and protection and buy time, gives you more than enough time within the weapon switch. Plus the on demand 10% vulnerability is always a starter and great, also very often overlook is F2 to aoe cripple high damage (takes 1 sec to cast) and sometimes just eating a shot or two while protection is up yields some decent damage/forces them to retreat/dodge roll, setting them up for more later burst.

I’ll have to make a vid soon as I get on another tpvp team, longbow has been stereo-typed and the sheep are believing and not using…..

Never said longbow is bad, i used to use longbow too. But I fell in love with greatswords mobility and defence

TheZeus.8617:

Don’t know who this Natural Portman guy even is but he is terrible I am sure since he is all about boosting his ego and not his gameplay. Been watchin in the shadows for awhile and got to say if I came back I’d prob put the hurt on him with me necro/ele or Guard. O and umm PTCs ranger is pretty good!

HAHA FUNNY JOKE

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Fjandi.2516:

It’s funny some ppl think bunker rangers can’t do much dmg.
Oh btw i don’t really understand why you posted the build here. I mean this way every kid and his dog can just copy it.
Lol i remember a few months ago bm tree was commonly considered bad, good times. I still like all the qq about 1h sword autoattack tho.

I love hearing about rangers having no burst, bad rangers will always be bad. And I thought I would share with the community because I quit ranger.

The great thing about ranger bunker is that you can kill someone 2v1 if you play exceptionally well. Another great thing is evade attacks don’t decap nodes.

edit: I promise you if you play this build right you will never lose a 1v1. And yes I had to 1v1 many times as a side point bunker whether or not you guys think 1v1ing is a bad idea in tournies it does happen occasionally.

Im glad your sharing, I was a pretty good necro for Team Tsunami and I’ve done all I can to give people tips and builds that are good as a necro. I’ve been playing the Ranger a week now and its in my opinion such a burly class, at times disgusting if pets are working consistently. The only potential things wrong with it from what I can tell is there are other classes that offer more vital things within Tpvp (better tanks, better bursters, team portal/quickness from mesmers, rezzes aoe/poison/condition necro pressure.(but I’m still going to find more niches for it, I think the build I’m making could have a place as a pressurer/roamer/secondary point helper/defender). Let me know what you think of these 2 builds and your thoughts from your ranger background (They are almost identical with slight mods, I’ve min maxed everything within a 30 second fight context to offer highest damage/survivability). I’m gonna give ravens a try now that I see their potential as strictly burst and not just pressure (since they miss more often than the ones I chose).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlJMxew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoQygkAJLSOkkINC5EymAA

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlpzzew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoAzAmAMLYOwkgNC5EymAA

These aren’t too too bad but you will find yourself in some iffy situations OFTEN with this build. When you use your longbow you will feel overwhelmed because after you use your point blank shot you are basically free pickins.

Could you elaborate more? As I see it if I were to compare your builds with the success you had and mine, the weakness is the same “Burst”. If you don’t time a dodge on the important burst/team bursts your toast. Each build has about the same potential vigor/dodges (which seems to be enough to dodge key bursts), yours has more evades (which gives you more chances to evade damage, but the amount of deadly bursts I feel can be handled via dodge knowledge), but in either case if one misses a burst it will hurt, and as I see it, your build will get bursted down faster than the build I’m trying out due to more natural health, and the 50% protection and barkskin (the pets also give you more time via immobilizes and knockdowns/fears). I can see how yours can hold out longer due to more evades, but I’m not sure if thats the role this build needs to fill, since using fury weapon switching, pet combo’s and quickness can put pressure on anyone.

Longbow just isnt a great damage weapon, its VERY situational. You will find yourself in alot of sticky situation when you have longbow out and waiting on the weapon cooldown.

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Fjandi.2516:

It’s funny some ppl think bunker rangers can’t do much dmg.
Oh btw i don’t really understand why you posted the build here. I mean this way every kid and his dog can just copy it.
Lol i remember a few months ago bm tree was commonly considered bad, good times. I still like all the qq about 1h sword autoattack tho.

I love hearing about rangers having no burst, bad rangers will always be bad. And I thought I would share with the community because I quit ranger.

The great thing about ranger bunker is that you can kill someone 2v1 if you play exceptionally well. Another great thing is evade attacks don’t decap nodes.

edit: I promise you if you play this build right you will never lose a 1v1. And yes I had to 1v1 many times as a side point bunker whether or not you guys think 1v1ing is a bad idea in tournies it does happen occasionally.

Im glad your sharing, I was a pretty good necro for Team Tsunami and I’ve done all I can to give people tips and builds that are good as a necro. I’ve been playing the Ranger a week now and its in my opinion such a burly class, at times disgusting if pets are working consistently. The only potential things wrong with it from what I can tell is there are other classes that offer more vital things within Tpvp (better tanks, better bursters, team portal/quickness from mesmers, rezzes aoe/poison/condition necro pressure.(but I’m still going to find more niches for it, I think the build I’m making could have a place as a pressurer/roamer/secondary point helper/defender). Let me know what you think of these 2 builds and your thoughts from your ranger background (They are almost identical with slight mods, I’ve min maxed everything within a 30 second fight context to offer highest damage/survivability). I’m gonna give ravens a try now that I see their potential as strictly burst and not just pressure (since they miss more often than the ones I chose).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlJMxew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoQygkAJLSOkkINC5EymAA

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjAV91RWCWsWCi2DNlpzzew/DxovAvgSWRUA;TsAA1CnoAzAmAMLYOwkgNC5EymAA

These aren’t too too bad but you will find yourself in some iffy situations OFTEN with this build. When you use your longbow you will feel overwhelmed because after you use your point blank shot you are basically free pickins.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Fjandi.2516:

It’s funny some ppl think bunker rangers can’t do much dmg.
Oh btw i don’t really understand why you posted the build here. I mean this way every kid and his dog can just copy it.
Lol i remember a few months ago bm tree was commonly considered bad, good times. I still like all the qq about 1h sword autoattack tho.

I love hearing about rangers having no burst, bad rangers will always be bad. And I thought I would share with the community because I quit ranger.

The great thing about ranger bunker is that you can kill someone 2v1 if you play exceptionally well. Another great thing is evade attacks don’t decap nodes.

edit: I promise you if you play this build right you will never lose a 1v1. And yes I had to 1v1 many times as a side point bunker whether or not you guys think 1v1ing is a bad idea in tournies it does happen occasionally.

1v1 does happen but building purely for that is near useless in group fights. I personally love sniping so whether on ranger or rifle warrior I build for group sniping, sit uptop and pick off people at half hp, I rack up kills so fast. Rangers do have burst, its not the issue, the problem are when you go for that burst you tend to have a super squishy pet on top of him being bugged out the kitten and he dies in seconds lowering your burst significantly. Ive had several run ins with evasion tank bunkers, leuca is definitely the best Ive fought so far, but as you say they can win 2v1s if played right, so much regen and evasion its just hard to combat. My guardian is the only toon i have that can beat them consistently.

It has its roles in team fights too. Such as snaring the target for your team, since you have all the cripple in the world.

leashmaygoss.2140:

Rifle engineer new FotM? lol

sigh…. time to reroll to longbow warrior

Fjandi.2516:

It’s funny some ppl think bunker rangers can’t do much dmg.
Oh btw i don’t really understand why you posted the build here. I mean this way every kid and his dog can just copy it.
Lol i remember a few months ago bm tree was commonly considered bad, good times. I still like all the qq about 1h sword autoattack tho.

I love hearing about rangers having no burst, bad rangers will always be bad. And I thought I would share with the community because I quit ranger.

The great thing about ranger bunker is that you can kill someone 2v1 if you play exceptionally well. Another great thing is evade attacks don’t decap nodes.

edit: I promise you if you play this build right you will never lose a 1v1. And yes I had to 1v1 many times as a side point bunker whether or not you guys think 1v1ing is a bad idea in tournies it does happen occasionally.

Banjal.7328:

Why use birds?Cat’s are the the best DPS pets.

Disagree. Birds also have a big range on their f2.

Kasama.8941:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Kasama.8941:

Just out of curiosity, how does one become “very widely known” in NA, AUS, CH, and Africa, from playing Guild Wars 2? Do you travel a lot?

Also, how does that build work? The damage is almost nonexistent..

That’s my secret.

And clearly you have never played with ravens.

lol okay..

So the ravens are all the damage you need? Interesting. It still seems like you could have more damage output, though. I mean, why all the healing?

Because going berserker melee is suicide on ranger. The great thing about ranger is that pets stats are completely seperate from yours, allowing yourself to build yourself tanky and still have great damage.

butch.8136:

Want to win free tourns regardless of teamcomp? 1. Teamspeak and people who listen. 2. Individual skill

Thats my take on it.

Eh to an extent. Imo mesmer home point is too stronk atm. Mesmer is the only class I feel is basically neccessary to compete against the comps using mesmer.

No mesmer = pidgeon holed into 5v4s

When you smell Helseth’s hair

Lelouch.8452:

Braxxus.2904:

A pretty sure-fire solid foundation would be:
Guardian Bunker (there’s a few variant builds here)
Mesmer far point/portal-bomber/general kitten the other players up guy (cannot go wrong with 20/20/0/0/30)

After that a fairly excellent selection of characters for the other 3 slots:
D/D Ele 0/10/-/20+/30
Necro – Not sure here I don’t have enough experience on mine. However I did have moderate success fooling around with a well build
Thief roamer (a really well played ranger also meshes well with a d/d ele and a necro)

and this is why EU takes the kitten out of NA, the same old meta ( guardian, mesmer, necro, ele, thief/warr). All the top teams use that broken composition, be creative.
We rolled 2 warrios, ranger, engi, guardian in paids, and ask any of the top players (QTs, Pzs, Rayteks team), we gave them a hard time, they won in strategies, but we took the surprise on them and lost the games by 100 points and less. Just bc a comp is a joke, doesn’t mean it can’t work, u need to make it work.

and something to amuse, to show another broken meta

Nerf longbow warrior, too stronk

Kasama.8941:

Just out of curiosity, how does one become “very widely known” in NA, AUS, CH, and Africa, from playing Guild Wars 2? Do you travel a lot?

Also, how does that build work? The damage is almost nonexistent..

That’s my secret.

And clearly you have never played with ravens.

Zenyoga.6910:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Leuca.5732:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Leuca.5732:

I like Eagle/Hawk myself. Also why would you bother with the 10 in Nature when you could put 10 more into BM, get 10% of healing into power and get passive regen+boost your pet spike, which is the goal anyway?

Because the regen is slow and not too helpful, I think protection is way more valuable. The whole point is to survive long enough for you to kill the enemy. And the ravens already hit like trucks.

I guess I’ve just never felt short on protection with the 15 WS trait. I run Valkyrie Amulet and hardly ever have a problem dying. I also find the regen very useful; it’s not hugely significant on the player but it’s a much bigger heal tick on the pet, and birds are very squishy.

Birds dont die because your burst has to do with swapping alot.

I’ve recently been min/maxing the ranger since trying out the classand this is an interesting choice, I like their damage to. However while testing their attack/hit consistency on a mob/player they miss a lot more in comparison to the wolf or spiders. How were you able to consistently able to land their damage? If a player is constantly moving in their long pause swoop attacks will miss a lot and the since their basic is a double slash you miss out on double your auto’s a lot…….

All the tools you need to get your birds in range are there. You have a great gap closer (swoop) which is also a leap finisher, and you have cripple for days on sword dagger. You want to watch their dodge rolls / protection and then go for the double raven blinding slash burst which will do around 7k-15k dmg.

Walorx.5129:

Well ranger is easy to play so… can you be the best at something that takes no skill? Spam traps, press 1, gg.

sounds almost as easy as engi play

Fjandi.2516:

NaturalPortman.9562:

I think protection is way more valuable.

Idd bro idd that’s why dwayna runes are not the best.
I heard you are best ranger in antarctica as well but no you won’t stand a chance against those africans. Gl on the engi.

I sometimes switch them out for forge, but actual regen boon heals quite abit. Healing while evading = proactive. Evading while you have protection = wasting protection.

Leuca.5732:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Birds dont die because your burst has to do with swapping alot.

Running Eagle/Hawk I don’t find myself swapping quite as often because I’m not swapping to get the F2. The recharge on their F2 is just stupid good and the damage decrease isn’t that bad; they still hit pretty hard and add some bleed to boot, which helps me deal with frequent stealthing mesmers and thieves.

Eagles and hawk are pretty good too, but I just love the heavy burst the ravens give out. Can basically drop classes like thieves / mesmers instantly.

Leuca.5732:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Leuca.5732:

I like Eagle/Hawk myself. Also why would you bother with the 10 in Nature when you could put 10 more into BM, get 10% of healing into power and get passive regen+boost your pet spike, which is the goal anyway?

Because the regen is slow and not too helpful, I think protection is way more valuable. The whole point is to survive long enough for you to kill the enemy. And the ravens already hit like trucks.

I guess I’ve just never felt short on protection with the 15 WS trait. I run Valkyrie Amulet and hardly ever have a problem dying. I also find the regen very useful; it’s not hugely significant on the player but it’s a much bigger heal tick on the pet, and birds are very squishy.

Birds dont die because your burst has to do with swapping alot.

Leuca.5732:

I like Eagle/Hawk myself. Also why would you bother with the 10 in Nature when you could put 10 more into BM, get 10% of healing into power and get passive regen+boost your pet spike, which is the goal anyway?

Because the regen is slow and not too helpful, I think protection is way more valuable. The whole point is to survive long enough for you to kill the enemy. And the ravens already hit like trucks.

I thought I would create this thread to help new people just getting into the pvp scene because as of right now it is very hard to improve when you don’t have a team as you are forced to solo q and get stomped by actual teams.

I would like to bring together this small PvP community that we have and share little tips to improve your tournament play instead of the usual “Zerg to win” rules hotjoin usually has you playing.
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I will start with :
It is usually counter intuitive to cap a point with more than 1 man as every second counts for you to get the upperhand in the match Whether it is killing your NPC 5 seconds faster than the other team of getting to the other point quicker than them to get better positioning.

Braxxus.2904:

Dee Jay.2460:

I think the crucial difference as to why Thieves receive so much more complaints than all other professions combined is because they simply aren’t fun to play against

^
This is really all it is, and has been with rogues/sins/etc from other MMO’s too. They’re just un-fun annoying little prats. Doesn’t matter at all what their damage is, could be 1 point per ability, doesn’t matter how OP or UP they actually are. The mechanics are just ‘lame’ and ‘un-fun’.

I’d rather fight a thief than a mesmer tbh.

Joshua.9346:

I’m making this decision based on the balance design philosophy going forward.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-December-14-2012

Engineer

The Engineer is a highly versatile class. While it doesn’t have the long range capabilities of the Ranger, or the melee capabilities of the Warrior or Guardian, they are comfortable at medium ranges in most fights. They have a lot of control, and use their boons to keep themselves (and allies) alive in a fight. They can use different kits based on the situation, but this extreme versatility comes at a cost in damage on their main hand weapons.

VS

Ele

We see the elementalist as the king of versatility. The skill ceiling for the Ele is exceptional, as the ability to leverage all four attunements at the right time is crucial for understanding the elemetnalist. The Ele boasts some of the best team support and control abilities in the game, as well as some great area of effect damage.

So basically versatility is both their “thing”, except that ANet recognizes that Engi’s sacrifice damage for versatility whereas Ele’s have phenomenal AoE damage. So are they using the higher skill ceiling for Eles as a legit reasoning for making Engineers an inferior class??

It’s funny because playing ele is honestly not that hard.

Super Goose.1467:

Merle.5693:

Mesmers have the option to get 100% 33% runspeed, but not for free.

Focus + 2x rune of air, 2x monk, 2x water +20 inspiration + 20 chaos + Signet of Midnight = 100% uptime, or 30chaos no Signet = 100% uptime.

Rune of the Centaur 12sec swiftness, 15sec CD, again 20chaos +signet or 30chaos for 100% uptime.

Both heavy commitments, but its not like the focus buff was useless.

Compare this to Engineer, another class that doesn’t have a +25% runspeed signet (or any signets for that matter). For just 20 points in Tools, which I feel a lot of Engineer builds have anyways for +20% recharge on toolbelt and +20% crit damage, they can slot a trait called speedy kits that allows them to perma-swiftness just by clicking one button every 5 seconds. No runes, no boon duration, no need to even use a skill just have those 20 trait points and your choice of kit

Granted engineers have their own problems to worry about but mobility, even in-combat, isn’t one of them, perma-swiftness, rifle 4 + 5, elixir gun 4, rocket boots (and its toolbelt is a small but effective 300 range jump). In fact if I was going to rate classes in terms of mobility even including in-combat, I’d put Thief and Elementalist well ahead of Mesmers who would probably be tied with Engineers and be just barely ahead of Guardians (teleport/leap on their sword/greatsword and a teleport of their own that actually inflicts damage albeit on a 50% longer cooldown).

With a class mechanic that basically does everything for them, I would feel that this “lack of mobility” fair trade.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Looks like an evasion tank mixed with some damage from pets, not interested. Glad you are confident in your skills, Id love to kill you sometime. However you are retired, assuming you are quitting ranger or gw2, I plan on doing the same soon.

I have changed to engineer because of slick shoes. And you would not kill me, I am number 1.

Anytime lol, slick shoes? Really? Why that specific skill?

Slick shoes healed my diabeetus
- Voz