Guild Wars 2

Tachenon.5270:

Niyo.5920:

Makes me shiver to even think about a charr-warrior with a pink quaggan-hat. And people would do that if they could. So it’s good that they can’t.

Well… I’m not so sure they can’t. Heh.

Yieks! O.O
But they can’t FIGHT with this. If they could it would be worse…

I’m happy that clothes like this are no combat-clothes.
That would destroy the atmosphere of the game if there would be people in pink quaggan-hats who are fighting a dragon.
In town it’s ok. Cause there it’s good for RP to have hats for characters that are children for example.
But not in fight. Makes me shiver to even think about a charr-warrior with a pink quaggan-hat. And people would do that if they could. So it’s good that they can’t.

A problem of the Living Story is that because of the faster progression of it since Southsun, people are thinking that it’s an event. It is not.
Dragon Bash will be an event. Halloween and Wintersday were events. The Living Story is no event. It’s to change the current world a bit. So that the story of the world changes and don’t stay the same.
So it’s not necessary to have new armour, skins, cool event-items. They are just a nice piece to get. And we have some of these like the back-pieces. They are nice and it’s great to have them.
But Living Story is no event. Dragon Bash will be an event and when we read the announcement it sounds like a great event with items, games and fun. Like Halloween or Wintersday. But you can’t compare Southsun to Halloween or Wintersday, cause they have nothing in common.
The Living Story changes the world which in other MMOs would be every time the same between events. So it’s great to not have all the same old story every day till one day we will get an Addon. But it seems that people can’t see it like this. And that’s a pity.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Didn’t we get an in-game letter?

Yes. We got a letter. I think it was from Kiel.

Your only character? Sorry, but what does “TP” mean? Every character can go to Southsun as long as the living story is there cause of the upscaling. And what have you “rerolled”? I don’t understand what you tried to do…

They don’t need to riot. The contracts are destroyed and they can go wherever they want to. They don’t need to start a riot against the Consortium cause it’s not necessary anymore.

Killface.1896:

The new events are awfull,need to run all over the place to summon a krakan that spawn every 1-2hr…

And 1event have champion kraka with 1billion hit points that regenerate to 100% after you kill it first time and ofc you dont get no chest reward for him ):

When queen event is on CD just let riot events come back,only disable riot when queen event is ready.

1. The Champion Karka were there even before the new patch. And the don’t “regenerate”. The first time you destroy their shell, the second time you destroy them, like it is with the Karka Veterans.
2. It’s a living story. Due to progression of the story the riots are over and now there is the queen.

InfernoCrossing.8063:

I saw two conflicting achievements where you could either put the Consortium contracts on the ship, or put Settlers there. With the latter achievement gone, I’m guessing that there was a portion of this event that was cut out? Or did I just imagine it?

I think you mixed it up with the achievements where you had to help both Consortium and Settlers with their buffs. These achievements were more at the bottom of the list at the beginnig, if I remember it correctly. I looked very often at the list, too. And I never saw an achievement like you mentioned.

Yes. Just talk to Kiel.

The log at Canach’s Folly is new, right? Saw it a few days ago for the first time I think.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

You are also correct, the reward is once per account. I guess everyone on that Reddit thread was trolling. Or did they ‘fix’ it?

At the beginning it was once per character but that was a bug, cause it was not intended. So they changed it with a hotfix.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

I can’t get a screenshot of the first bug but here is a sequence of the second bug. This sequence is particularly appaling because Canach actually runs over the flipping green mine (check picture #5) without it blowing up.

I had that bug, too. When this happens you have to restart the instance. I think it sometimes happens when you try to make a yellow mine green. Or that’s how it happened to me.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

I made the mistake of trying this instance with my non-mesmer alt because even though it is a horribly designed fight at least it gave a gold and karma.

If it’s only for the reward, you don’t have to do it twice. The reward was a “once per account”-reward and you won’t get it a second time.
I’ll only do it repeatedly because of the dialogue with Canach.

Zaxares.5419:

By the way, all the people who are saying they hate Kiel because she’s helping the Consortium save their contracts, I wouldn’t be so sure. Recall her last comment about getting her hands on “as much black powder as I can muster”. Somehow, I get the feeling that she’s not going to be using that black powder against the Karka Queen…

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My prediction? She’s going to store the black powder on the very same ship that Noll is loading all his precious contracts on. Once all the contracts are aboard and it’s time to leave (but before anyone actually gets on the ship)… KABOOM!

Kiel: “Oops. Looks like some lubberhead didn’t store the black powder properly. Oh well. Good luck in fishing out soggy, charred scraps of settler contracts from the bay, Noll!”

Oh. I DO think it will turn out like you say. But I hate Kiel, cause her “you will not be their hero, cause I will be the one who is their hero and you will rot in prison”-attitude.

Obed.7629:

Niyo.5920:

How long do you play that you don’t know that? That’s no mistake of ArenaNet, just your own fault.

Give the info, keep the attitude to yourself, o wise one.

I wrote it that way, because of the aggressive tone of the OP. It’s always good to inform yourself about something before whining on the forum. Especially when it’s that obvious that it’s not the fault of the game or ArenaNet.

I was frustrated, too by the instance. But it’s better than nothing and currently the only way to see Canach, so I do it from time to time to hear the dialogue at the end and take screenshots. When you do it more than once it will get very easy. So I kind of like it, but more story about Canach would be better.
The first part of the event was real fun. I think that was great.

sAdam.5876:

The thing is, that ship had Black Lion Emblems on sail. Maybe covert Consortium ship, but there was idea on forum that, that ship was used by BL to spy on consotrium’s endeavor.

Afaik every ship there has BL Emblems. But the sign on the planks that lead up to the ship is that of the Consortium. Even the ship at Pride Point, where now the Consortium-merchants are, has the old BL emblems, but the Consortium sign is on the planks and on flags. Maybe the Consortium has no ships on its own and rent them from BLTC.

I think it could be the ship on which Noll will put the contracts. Maybe…

Stability isn’t necessary. Done it with my main guardian without stability and with a level 3 and two of my other warriors. And I made the "no traps"-achievement on both accounts with my warriors. And I’m really not the best player.^^ Since I found out at which side near the wall it is safe enough to stand, it is easy. I have enough practice now, I think. *g*

@Paranormal Bear: If I’m correct, this thread is about the Story-Instance not Explore Mode.

Aynmire and Canach (Lost Shore and Last Stand at Southsun)

Would be good to don’t open a new topic when this is discussed here since last Tuesday on various threads.

Like this one:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/southsun/Last-Stand-at-Southsun-Feedback-Opinion/first

Spendingallmytime.7249:

I can agree with that. I wonder if he’ll be part of the new Destiny’s Edge alongside Braham and Rox. He has that ‘will do what’s necessary’ vibe.

Yeah. That would be very cool.
Would fit with Caithe. She also is not the “every time nice”-character and has done things that weren’t all good. Like killing a nightmare courtier who my character promised will live when he tells us what we wanted to know.

That’s your opinion. And that’s ok.
I feel pity for him and I wish that it all will end well for the settlers. It’s clear that Canach has to take the responsibility for his actions. But to kill him is not the right way and I hope he will have a longer part in the game from now on.

Maybe this helps to remember his voice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTzc_HbHEi8&feature=youtu.be

It’s a part from the video I made from the dialogue after defeating Canach. Due to the bug, Kiel’s audiofile is missing. But for hearing Canach’s voice that’s unimportant.

Spendingallmytime.7249:

Well, saying that he thinks himself as a hero gives him too much credit considering that all of his dialogue suggests otherwise. There isn’t anything sympathetic about him and let’s be honest, his desire to “save” the refugees is a lot of grandstanding. Canach is merely using it as a front for his personal vendetta against the Consortium.

Have you read the full quote from Scott McGough?
Canach is gone through hell and it’s all the Consortiums fault. He has legitimate reasons to have a grudge against them. I feel sorry for him.

Outlaw.3421:

I would like to see the posts from the GW2 website fed into the “My Story” tab. It can show a red " ! " when there is a new story entry like when you level and have a new trait point to use.

Each update that has story posts can have the content thrown into the “My Story” tab. We click on each event as a form of a drop down. I guess it works a lot like the wiki, but this is just another alternative of displaying information.

Attached an example I created real quick in Photoshop.

You can probably add those images as event tabs in achievements too to create some visuals.

That would be REALLY cool! I want to have this!
Maybe you could post this to the suggestion-forum here…

As Scott McGough said: he has “a fairly twisted sense of what’s right”. Maybe he thinks he is their hero. That he is not is clear for us.

lordkrall.7241:

Which is EXACTLY what Canach is doing at the moment in Southsun.
He don’t care about civilian casualties as long as he can spread fear and damage the Consortium.

He doesn’t want to “spread fear”. He wants to help the refugees, cause he sees himself as their hero.

Here is a quote from Scott McGough about Canach’s change of appearance (maybe this helps to better understand him):

Canach’s look has indeed undergone a major change since The Lost Shores, and I regret that there isn’t more background available regarding how it happened, but let me address the question here: his change in appearance is almost entirely due to the hardships he’s endured since he escaped Lionguard custody. He’s a fugitive from justice, he’s had Noll’s freelance decommission teams trying to kill him, and he’s utterly alone, so it’s been a tough couple of months for the sylvari fugitive.

Being on the run, fighting for his life, and killing the killers sent after him have weathered Canach; plus, he made a concerted effort to change his look (hairstyle, etc.) so as not to be recognized and arrested by the Lionguard. It’s quite a come down from the high position and status he enjoyed as a secondborn (even if that status was never as high as he thought it should be), and his new, grimmer look is meant to reflect the psychological toll he’s had to pay as well as the physical one.

As for the flaming gauntlets, remember that Canach is a seasoned combat veteran and an experienced guerilla fighter with a fairly twisted sense of what’s right. When he heard about the Molten Alliance refugees resettling on Southsun Cove, he saw a chance to help other Consortium victims and get even with Noll. But like a good soldier, he wanted to understand the situation in which he was about to involve himself, so he made a point of seeking out one of the Molten Alliance weapons facilities and clearing it. He obtained the gauntlets from that escapade and wears them now as a symbol of his newly adopted (and so far poorly executed) role as a champion of the weak…right before he set out for Southsun Cove to settle things with Noll.

Tiberius.3802:

Canach’s voice actor is Matt Kaminsky. Or so it shows on his page on imdb.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0436751/

Hm. But the date tells 2012… maybe it was only his voice during Lost Shore? Can’t remember if he has spoken more than the sentences when you clicked on him back in november.
I watched some videos of Devil May Cry 2 where Matt Kaminsky spoke Dante. But it’s really hard to tell if it’s the same voice like Canachs current voice. I don’t think it is, but Dante doesn’t say much and it’s really hard to tell due to sound quality and because that game is old now.

Elbegast.6970:

He has a voice? I’ve completed the solo instance and I haven’t heard Canach say anything even remotely audible.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Canach%27s_Lair_%28story%29

Inspector Ellen Kiel: You got away clean. Why’d you risk coming back just to stir things up again?
Canach: I’m doing what the Lionguard can’t–I’m helping the refugees. The Consortium used legal trickery to trap them here.
Canach: I needed to send Noll and his superiors a message, and these people needed hope. So I provided it.
Inspector Ellen Kiel: Well, that hope you provided left a trail of wreckage and broken bodies across my island.
Canach: It doesn’t matter. The last of these contracts will be destroyed and the settlers will be freed.
Inspector Ellen Kiel: Not by you. You’re officially a Lionguard prisoner, Canach. Again. You’ve done all the damage you’re going to do.
Canach: You still don’t understand. My plan doesn’t require me to see it through.
Canach: Every possible Consortium record depot on this island has already been marked.
Canach: Soon, every residency contract will be destroyed, along with anyone who tries to defend them.

Elbegast.6970:

I don’t know Canach. I haven’t seen him say anything in game. I haven’t seen a Southsun story save the footnotes on the two back pieces.

Then you weren’t there at the Lost Shore-event in november. There Canach had dialogues and a letter.
And he has a dialogue with Kiel now when you beat him at his Lair. And you can read the story-pieces that are spread out over the island, like the log at Canach’s Folly. There are some information about him.

Also feel free to read the letters from Lost Shore. The link is in my signature.

I know I remember his voice from somewhere. But I don’t know from where. Anyone knows the (english) voice actor behind Canachs voice?

Can’t tell for sure. But the mining pick had a “only for 7 days”-warning before it was removed. Think that will be the same with the sickle. But how long it will stay… don’t know.

LameFox.6349:

There’s a tent that keeps vanishing and reappearing too, but it’s still there physically, just not always visible. Are you sure there’s not a ship anymore?

It’s not there.

Here is a picture I made at 20th of May:
http://i82.servimg.com/u/f82/16/10/41/06/gw18810.jpg

And this one I made yesterday when I read about this thread:
http://i82.servimg.com/u/f82/16/10/41/06/gw59610.jpg

See?
But I can go back to this place and see if it’s invisible…

EDIT:
It’s not invisible. It’s not there anymore.

Maybe it is the one on which Noll wants to load the contracts to?

Yes. It’s a new meta-event so that there is a reason to go to Southsun even when the event is over.

Biohazard.4196:

Rennoko.5731:

Yeah to support the other two correct answers, it seems to just be once. Once you have completed it, you can do it again the next day or 24 hours later, and you get nothing at all. No chest and no bonus. You do get to watch the dialog again though.

EDIT: And honestly, it was a gold for doing a 5 minute event, solo, that wasn’t remotely difficult. If it was a daily I would be there every day.

I believe I got the reward multiple times for doing it on separate days. I’ll have to do it again to verify.

That was a coincidence then. Cause in our timezone the time when they said that we can get the reward again one time, it was just around the time when the new daily started.

Foddzy.6291:

Red and green lights on them?

I gave up on this in frustration.

Is there a SINGLE colorblind person in the Anet organization? This is really bad.

PS thanks for making the red ground targets HARDER to see by washing out the color saturation, Great Job!

Maybe this is a thread for you:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/southsun/Traps-Achievement-and-Daltonism/first

Shiren.9532:

What story? There was a story?

Yes.
Maybe you can read my signature-link about the old letters from the Lost Shore-event. Or you can read the really good Wiki-page from Vahkris which really helps if you are interested in the story:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Vahkris/The_Lost_Shores_Story

Wiser with Age.3714:

During that period of 10-15 seconds, there were no chat log messages about Canach re-arming the mines. I hit that mine consecutively for x3 times and it still flipped back, as if taunting me. This is the kind of issue that we’re complaining about. It is simply unfair and malicious.

Then it seems to bug. Don’t have another explanation.

Atlas.9704:

I like the story so far, but I do wonder why Canach’s plan to save people is to tick off the animals.
Won’t that cause some folks to die?

He risks it for the greater good (in his eyes). Collateral damage, so to speak.
A bit extreme, yes. But his intentions to help are good. Only his ways aren’t.

skullmount.1758:

Niyo.5920:

It is a one time account achievement. That’s why the items are accountbound.

Which is kinda stupid. Us with alts, will never be able to use it on multiple character simultaneously. At least with the soulbound Halloween back items we could get it for each character, we just had to do the content over and over for each character to get the items. I kinda wish it would go back to that way, cause I do want to use the tentacle one on multiple characters (haven’t found a character yet for the flower).

Don’t have to tell me. *g* I have many characters. ^^
And yes... would be good to have it on more than one character, cause it looks very nice on sylvari.

kRiza krimos.1637:

Slight off-topic, can flower backpiece be upgraded?

Afaik it can be upgraded to exotic.

Mek.2947:

Niyo.5920:

Wiser with Age.3714:

2) There are also false-postive mines. You’ll shoot them with the correct ray, the hit will register, and the mine will change to its green color. However within 2-3 seconds after the color switch, the mine will instantly revert back to its hostile state and it will trigger if you’re close. These mines seem to be rare and only showed up around 5% – 10% of the time. Once Canach does his move to trigger all of the mines in a room, these false-positive mines un-bug when they respawn (though they can still be affected by Bug #1).

Are you sure that this isn’t because of Canachs skill when he reactivates all the mines?
Cause when he does that all green mines turn red again. With a bad timing your green mines won’t be green for long.

I had the same thing happen to me. I’m 100% sure I deactivated the mine.

But what I meant at my post was not that the player is sure that he/she deactivated the mine. I asked if you are sure that Canach hasn’t reactivated them.

Arc DLad.2194:

it’s a one time reward, the reason it happened daily the first 2 days was because the patched the area and accidently reset it, so everyone got a second chest the next day.

That was no accident. They resetted it cause many players haven’t got a reward at the first time and so they had a new chance to get it.

It is a one time account achievement. That’s why the items are accountbound.

Wiser with Age.3714:

2) There are also false-postive mines. You’ll shoot them with the correct ray, the hit will register, and the mine will change to its green color. However within 2-3 seconds after the color switch, the mine will instantly revert back to its hostile state and it will trigger if you’re close. These mines seem to be rare and only showed up around 5% – 10% of the time. Once Canach does his move to trigger all of the mines in a room, these false-positive mines un-bug when they respawn (though they can still be affected by Bug #1).

Are you sure that this isn’t because of Canachs skill when he reactivates all the mines?
Cause when he does that all green mines turn red again. With a bad timing your green mines won’t be green for long.

You can get the reward only once per account.

After talking with him, he took Canach with a bad feeling to Captain Magnus of the Lionguard, who put him in chains for the moment. Following that was an attack of the Karka on Lion’s Arch, for whichs defence Aynmire and his band did what they could. When it came to chasing the giant Karka, which seemed to be the leader of the beasts, Canach was taken along to the island. And Aynmire also went there to help.
Magnus wanted to have Canach with him, so that he could help devise a battle plan, because he knew the island best and was therefore considered useful. As the plan stood, he left him chained in a cabin on the ship and prepared for attack. Aynmire was part of the soldiers and mercenaries that should take part in the attack. But he sneaked back to the ship in the first chaos of the attack. Luckily, all others were too busy to watch over him. So he got to Canach’s cabin without trouble. He kneeled besides the chained Sylvari and spoke softly to him, while loosening his chains. Finally he stood up and went to the door. “That’s all I can do for you. Make the best of it.” With a light but sad smile he turned away and left the ship, joined the fighting and hoped that Canach would manage to flee.
When the giant Karka was defeated, the cleaning up started. At first, Aynmire went back to Lion’s Arch, but he came back to the island a few days later to ask Inspector Kiel about what happened to Canach. He hadn’t heard that the Lionguard took a sylvari to prison, so he hoped that Canach did indeed get away. With a solemn, uninterpretable look he appeared in front of the Inspector and asked – after a general heads-up – for information about the prisoner, seeming to be hardly interested. Kiel appeared to be angry and explained that he managed to escape during the attack. Taking an effort to suppress a smile, Aynmire thanked her for the information and left the island. Thus, Canach had escaped and Aynmire hoped that he would be well.

The following months, Aynmire worked as mercenary as usual, but he had to think of Canach now and then.

One day, when he heard a soft knock on the door of his shabby room, he was surprised to find a Sylvari before it. He was of a pale green, with thorns coming from his face. Instead of leaves, he only had spikes on his head. He looked terrible, altogether. Worn out, rugged. And Aynmire would have sworn he never had seen this Sylvari before in his live. If there weren’t his eyes. The desperate, piercing eyes he knew so well. “I’m tired.”, the Sylvari said softly. And these words were everything Aynmire still needed to recognize him. “Canach?” With a shocked face he drew the small Sylvari in his room and closed the door behind him. “kitten ed, what happened?” He stood before him, raised his hand and carefully touched the thorns in his face.
“A lot. A kitten lot.”, was the answer. They took a seat on the bed and Aynmire looked at him, still shocked how much Canach had changed. Hardly anyone would recognize him. He let him tell his story. About Canach‘s escape, how he had started to change his appearance, by cutting off his leaves and how he had gone on about getting information about the plans of the Consortium. He had finally even infiltrated a weapon facility of the Molten Alliance. In short: he had gone through hell. Probably the reason for his radical change. At the end of the tale, Aynmire didn’t know what to say. He put his arms around him and held him, softly caressing the spikes on his head. “When this is all over, I’ll let them grow back.” Canach whispered softly. Aynmire just nodded and tried to give the Sylvari the calmness and closeness that he needed now.

When Aynmire woke up the next morning, Canach was gone. He only had left him a message on the table.

“Noll has destroyed my life. Maybe I will never see the Grove again. I can’t let him destroy the lives of others as well. This has to end.
Thanks for your help.
- Canach”

Aynmire sighed and rubbed his temple, the message still in his hand.

I wrote a story about Canach, the secondborn, and one of my sylvari males named Aynmire. Parts of this are the events which happened at the Lost Shore-event and some parts are about information about Canach from Scott McGough. But I summarized them and put my sylvari into the story with scenes which never happened (or which I believe that Scott McGough is the only one who knows how the scenes really happened). So most of it doesn’t belong to me but Scott McGough/ArenaNet/NCsoft.
The story originally was german, but my husband translated it into english for me.
And now I think I’ll post it here. Maybe someone wants to read it…
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Aynmire had always showen Canach the same respect and admiration as all the secondborn and also the firstborn. That was understandable, after all, they were the older and more experienced than he was and had seen much more of the world. He also knew the world outside the Grove, he was a mercenary after all, but he had much less experience of life nevertheless.
But despite all that, Canach seemed to be something special for him. He couldn’t explain or understand it. It just was so. And Aynmire was not someone who had to analyse everything to pieces. He was a warrior, born in the cycle of day, and he had always thought more of deeds than of words. That’s why he left the Grove one day and looked for his place in life outside the protective branches of the Pale Tree. So he became the soldier that he was today.

Then someday, his band of mercenaries helped out Inspector Kiel of the Lionguard. There seemed to be some trouble with a hardly known species called Karka and they ought to investigate things and question some witnesses. That was the day that he heard the name Canach again after a long time. An asura named Noll – who was the subdirector of a new organization called Consortium, which seemed to be a competitor to the Black Lion Trading Company and which plant to build a holiday resort on an island in the sea – gave him the information that Canach was to be found in Garrenhoff in Kessex and that he should be questioned about the attacking Karka. So Aynmire went to Garrenhoff to meet Canach, who wasn’t at all happy that Noll revealed him, but after some convincing talked and gave a Sworn Statement. Yes, he was partly to blame for the Karka attack, since he had taken some probes of some unknown plant species on the island called Southsun Cove in order to analyse them, when he was there for the Consortium to cartograph the island and build an Asura-Portal. That was probably the reason for the attack, since the Karka were roused and angered by the activity there. At least, that was the guess. Canach confessed and wanted to help, wanted to redeem his mistake. He believed that to be better than being imprisoned by the Lionguard. Aynmire didn’t have a good feeling about letting Canach be delivered to the Lionguard, but his band would do it and he couldn’t stop them, unless he wanted to lose his standing. Sighing, he asked for a moment to talk to Canach alone. He felt pity for him, but didn’t know how to help him.

Stormy Dragon.9210:

Heck, I would have been fine with the “side by side” cutaways from the original personal story, although I seem to be the only person who actually liked those.

I like them, too, and I like the personal story. There are interesting stories in there, I think.

Khal Drogo.9631:

The mines were laid by the Lionguard, then flipped by Canach for his own use. Then the player flips them again.

What’s stupid is that Canach is invincible except for these Lionguard mines. Maybe the Mother Tree dipped him into a river of the Mists when he was a baby and a mine exploded near him when this happened.

First. The mines are Canachs mines. Read the text of Kiel at the entrance! Here is it: “Levvi’s figured out how to detect and handle the traps he’s set for us.”
Second. Read the text of Kiel. She tells you that Canach can’t hardly been hurt cause he experimented with the poison he used on the animals of the island. Here is the text:
“He’s also been handling the stimulants he used on the animals, so he may shrug off most attacks.”