Guild Wars 2

I’ll teach you how to be rid of those trolls. Get six people who are on mumble ready to take turrets. Get them killed, take over the turrets. If you fail that attempt, that sucks, but then the next attempt you have 6 of your own people on them. Everyone deals with trolls or just plain up bad players now and then, but that doesn’t make it impossible.

neon.4863:

But any reasonable person should want everyone who likes this type of content to be able to participate in it and enjoy it as is, and everyone who does not like it and does not want to be in it to be able to freely do their own thing (consider Sparkfly Fen is part of the open world, and people have every right to be there to level or do map completion, too) and it’s not what’s happening.

Instancing it gets rid of all the benefit to the community. It also brings up the probable necessity to reduce the amount of people required.

As for people doing their own thing… Of course they are able to. They can do zone completion in an overflow just as well as the main, and they can do what they need to in the main if they get in there as well. What does that even have to do with this?

Stx.4857:

Words that don’t matter

Ok.

Do you never read gaming forums? Tons of people see problems with everything in any game. That doesn’t make them right.

How would making it a raid instance solve anything? Out of sight out of mind? You’ll no longer think you NEED to beat him? Or do you think it being instanced would somehow make it easier? And yes, my solution, if you can’t handle a challenge, is for you to not take part in that part of the game. I know people who can’t pvp. What do they do? They don’t enter sPvP. I know people who aren’t comfortable commanding in WvW. So they don’t command. I know people who are terrible at CoE. So they don’t run CoE. I know people who don’t want to farm mats for crafting. So they don’t craft. I know people who can’t do SAB. So they don’t play SAB. They have other things they can do because there is plenty to do in this game.

ilr.9675:

Randulf.7614:

The nature of the internet will always cause this, all popular mmos suffer from this (except lotro which always seemed immune). The devs put out content which requires server coordination…

NO

You’re NOT ALLOWED to use such general and positive terms for this fight

This fight’s win condition is 100% an absolute DPS check, and nothing more…
There’s lots of servers who coordinate daily to achieve what others call the impossible.
Then there’s other servers who do not coordinate one bit beyond bringing maxed out pure power vit builds to this who succeed with time to spare. ….This is not a server coordination issue. This is artificial difficulty. This is a Spreadsheet in action….

Someone seems a bit flustered.

Can you give an example of a server doing nothing but DPSing it down with no coordination, and please provide proof of your currently ignorant and baseless statement?

Stx.4857:

Oolune.4357:

neon.4863:

Oolune.4357:

neon.4863:

There’s a certain FYGM mentality in saying “I don’t see why you’re complaining, my experience has been great.”

That goes both ways, and it is coupled with a ridiculous tendency to think anything that you don’t enjoy shouldn’t be there.

Aye. But the chief complaint from me, at least, isn’t that people don’t enjoy it, but rather that people want to enjoy it, but can’t because overflow, underleveled, undergeared, afkers, trolls, not enough server population to organize, guesting taking up spots in organized servers, etc etc. This is great content… if you are able to do it the proper way. Right now, plenty of people who want to, who take their time learning the fight, adjusting, listening, can’t, due to limitations that are well beyond their control. Even rallying people on your server to organize only works when there’s enough of an interested population for it.

So, in other words, nerf him so that the people currently enjoying him CAN’T enjoy him because he is another stupid easy theme park boss that isn’t worth wasting the five minutes it would take to zerg him down?

Well now that you put it this way… People currently enjoying him = a hell of a lot less than people currently frustrated by him.

He should have been a raid instance.. so obviously the solution to all this.

There is no problem with him being what he is. You’re not forced to complete him even if he is open world.

neon.4863:

Oolune.4357:

neon.4863:

There’s a certain FYGM mentality in saying “I don’t see why you’re complaining, my experience has been great.”

That goes both ways, and it is coupled with a ridiculous tendency to think anything that you don’t enjoy shouldn’t be there.

Aye. But the chief complaint from me, at least, isn’t that people don’t enjoy it, but rather that people want to enjoy it, but can’t because overflow, underleveled, undergeared, afkers, trolls, not enough server population to organize, guesting taking up spots in organized servers, etc etc. This is great content… if you are able to do it the proper way. Right now, plenty of people who want to, who take their time learning the fight, adjusting, listening, can’t, due to limitations that are well beyond their control. Even rallying people on your server to organize only works when there’s enough of an interested population for it.

So, in other words, nerf him so that the people currently enjoying him CAN’T enjoy him because he is another stupid easy theme park boss that isn’t worth wasting the five minutes it would take to zerg him down?

neon.4863:

There’s a certain FYGM mentality in saying “I don’t see why you’re complaining, my experience has been great.”

That goes both ways, and it is coupled with a ridiculous tendency to think anything that you don’t enjoy shouldn’t be there.

I’m a little confused. Are you trying to say that something isn’t difficult if there is a strategy involved in beating it?

I’ve run Tequatl almost all day for two and a half days. It has been very fun. I have gotten no loot worth doing it. What I have gotten is a good time and some more bonds with people from the TC community and some guesters.

I don’t understand why people think that just because they don’t like a challenge means that it is damaging the community. If your community is falling apart after Teq, it isn’t Teq that ruined your community. Your community was already in a bad state, and actually being presented with a hurdle has revealed the cracks that already existed.

It is a game. You get the worst with the best in every scenario. If you think this content has changed anything in terms of making drama, you obviously are not on a server with a noticeable WvW community, because in WvW circles it’s nothing new.

What I have noticed, personally, is that it has brought multiple communities together.

Stay back and defend the turrets. You can crit on his mobs and they take condi damage. That is way more useful than you apparently realize.

Most of the people posting here saying no are just pessimistic. You SHOULD DEFINITELY give it a try whenever possible. Killing Teq multiple times has been great. Every time it is wonderful, and in fact even failing it is pretty fun. It has really brought some people together in different communities, and people should be capitalizing on this. Join the rest of your server mates/guest to another server and get involved, have some fun. It is really a good experience. =)

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Aerlen.5326:

The Eternal Grace.3157:

ScarecrowChild.7091:

Aerlen.5326:

Nah, keep guesting but when a native wants to get in – boot the guest. Harsh but the way content in GW2 works is that you better do it when it’s new or you don’t get to finish it.

Entitled much? They were there first. If you want to get in, wait in line like everybody else.

How is that true? There was just an update about 30 minutes ago and I did it the same time as everyone else. Loaded in…overflow. Now I am waiting just as long as everyone else except unable to play with my own server. How is it entitled to ask that you play with your own community? If they care enough to beat him get coordinated enough with other people on your server. If that isn’t an option, transfer. If you care enough, you will.

Forced update apparently means “Entitled N00b”.

Everyone on here is entitled to a majority of the things they’d like to see (to a certain, reasonable extent…not like “OMGz I DESERVE A FREE LEGENDAIRY PLZ”), because after all, they did pay.

Oh, the annoying misconception of the consumer… You’re not entitled to what you WANT just because you paid. You are only entitled to what you were promised to get in return for your payment. I’m pretty sure that a lock on guesting is not among those promises.

A tip for those Coasters trying to get in to the main TC: Join mumble. Get a party with someone who is on the main TC map. Try both to right-click > join and to rezone and hope to queue faster due to party.

Your BEST BET, however, is to wait until right after Tequatl has been finished (which is easy to tell by being in mumble) and then right-click > join on your party member who is there over the next few minutes. You will almost definitely get in.

Pibriamal.8719:

Excursion.9752:

One question I have is what is a good number to have protecting each set of Turrets?

Ideally, you want a full 5 man party on each turret. 1 guy on the turret, with the other 4 protecting him. You might even wanna designate one guy to be the backup turret and another to be the rezzer if the current turret guy gets downed.

People protecting should focus on the FINGERS and then the mobs. Zerker gear actually works here.

And people on turrets should also watch the ground around them. Cleansing poison around yourself on the turret can do a lot for everyone. Every second that someone is not on the turret is a waste.

As someone who has helped organize turret defense… Don’t stack parties on each turret. You need a small group protecting the inner turrets and a group (we typically have at least 10 I think, but it varies and I don’t count) running interference outside of the turrets (think far south east in the water for the southern turrets) and killing the risen that come from there. That is the main point of contact for the risen that spawn on the turrets, and if you intercept them they won’t reach the turrets. You don’t need individual turret guards. Have a few floaters to repair turret/res downed turret operator if necessary, and call back most of the defenders to take out fingers while leaving a few behind to distract the risen.

1. That is way too long and would make the content trivial.

2. You’re not supposed to dodge it. There are multiple methods to deal with it, the main one being destroy the fingers immediately while having turrets cleanse if you fail to.

3. I almost never see bone wall. I think I have seen it twice, and I have done this a lot.

4. I think ANet will eventually nerf him, and that the nerf will be a health decrease. Why? Because gamers today don’t want content that actually means something to beat. They just want to be able to beat it for a temporary and mostly false sense of accomplishment or completion. I just hope they release more content after the nerf that is as hard as this for the first few weeks of its release.

Your problem is that you expect all content to be easy. It has only been changed for going on what… Two days, three? In that time, multiple servers have beaten him. TC is on at least four victories right now with people already sporting titles. The fact that the first day or two of the content shows few victories and people start complaining is ridiculous.

You have plenty of EASY content out there, such as your “fun” (which is a hilarious statement anyway) Jormag and pretty much the vast, vast majority of the game. You don’t NEED to be Tequatl, so stop trying to ruin it for people who want a challenge.

Tachenon.5270:

Gratz to all who have succeeded at this. Now, the big question: once the thrill of victory wears off, will you keep at it?

I certainly will. And I hope that ANet releases more content with this kind of difficulty in mind, even if it is smaller-scale instanced content.

Ivonbeton.6814:

Inimicus.7162:

Actually i think the amount of leadership involved isnt much more than what it takes to knock over a tower in wvw, maybe a BL keep… also part of the time factor would include (hopefully) a mostly androgynous plan that is spread and used across many servers. I don’t expect this to work first few times, there will basically always be someone having first time issues, but i envision it being at least where enough still know what’s going on to get it done.. grenth is the current best example of this, but when the right people run the karka queen or you get that orgainized party of 5 or so carrying the zerg to victory during the escort phase of balth, they make it look real easy

Knocking over a tower in WvW is fairly straightforward, something everyone can handle. A lot of people just run behind a commander and spam autoattack.

A tower probably wasn’t the best example he could have used, but the organization is similar to WvW in general. Sure, the zerg is just meant to autoattack or use whatever other abilities the commander calls out… As well as knowing to dodge the enemy’s front line at the start of an engagement, stay stacked for when the commander calls out waterfields and other group mechanics, and to respond to any other calls the commander makes. Along with the cooperation on TS3, I think BG’s success came largely from the fact that the person Commanding them was a WvW commander and not just someone who lead a farm train in Frostgorge, and he organized them and they listened.

LadyRhonwyn.2501:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

I believe he’s going to spawn more often during this week.

So, he’ll spawn more often when I’m not online.

So what you’re saying is you don’t play for at least a two hour period when you do play? Because if you do, you’re essentially guaranteed to face him.

Tequatl’s difficulty is great where it is. HOWEVER, after speaking with multiple people who completed it on BG, I think the rewards need to be better for completing it. And by that, I mean that it should be a MUCH better chance of getting something good.

Always enjoy chasing people to their ACs and zergs. Keeps it up, babes <3

Mercenary Higgins.1807:

Handin.4032:

Last night me and a guardian in my guild

Okay people, let us use proper grammar. …Last night a Guardian from my guild and I…….

Grammar doesn’t do you much when you stick ellipses all over the place.

Super Kruegs.8967:

I’m not alone in my thinking about TC hordes and their inability to do much of anything without a massive numbers advantage.

Misery loves company.

On that note, I’ve opted to roam naked this week. Maybe it will make some of the FA roamers I see stay and fight instead of running back to their zerg (or to the forums).

People are going to complain. If a development team expects to NOT have that happen, and it hurts their feelings, then they need to not develop games. Or do anything else in life. I am sorry that the quoted dev feels a lot of his time was wasted, but perhaps he should grow up and realize that there are also people who enjoy the new SAB content just fine. If his expected result was a 100% happy player base then he was kidding himself.

That said, I made a long wall of text, but deleted it to make it shorter:

GW2 is a great game. Anet did a great job. However, they did go against a lot of what they communicated pre-launch, so I am sure they expected a number of people to be upset, and those people have grounds to be disappointed. I loved the game and I won’t ramble off my play time, how many 80s I have and how many sets of gear I have for each. But the content just doesn’t keep me hooked and the pace was way too fast. I just got 100% world completion, finally, after more than a year of putting it off. Now that I completed the last bit of content I actually enjoy (as I don’t feel like farming events/dungeons/world chests for more gear), I will probably log in rarely. Anet should be proud of their game, and they have a lot of happy customers, but it is not the game a lot of people expected or hoped for, and those people have as much right to complain as anyone has to praise it.

I can’t help but agree with many of the posts here. My experience with Guild Wars 2 has been one of a young, passionate love affair.

Starting back with the BWEs and articles about GW2, I fell in love. After launch, I continued to love the game and got to experience so much more content, and it seemed that ANet delivered all of the sweet promises it whispered in my ear when it all began. Now, just over a year later, I am struggling to keep playing. The only reasons I continue to play are hope and the lack of other games worth playing any more than GW2. Why? Because my sweet GW2 has changed. Or, perhaps, it was simply putting on an impressive act in the beginning to get me hooked.

To that handful of HOPE, ACE, and other tags I can’t remember from FA that had fun with the four of us running around Briar and Ruins on Mag BL, thanks for the fun fights. <3

XelNigma.6315:

Games that have a class that focus on turrets make that class to be static.
Lets look at other games. TF2 is well known, This game is very mobile, you have people running and jumping and even rocket jumping all over the place. But then you have the engineer class, designed not to do any of that stuff, cant move quick, cant jump high. His role is to control an area and make it his. Often known as “Area denial”.

Lets look at another game, Global Agenda. This game is even more mobile than TF2 seeing as every one has jetpacks. Like before you have a class thats designed to set in 1 spot and control an area with turrets and buff stations.

These kind of classes focus on haveing a zone of control that hurts/debuffs enemys and heal/buffs allies. This is the kind of class I was hopeing the Gw2 Engineer was.
We have the tools; the healing turret, several combat turrets for different situation, even gadgets like mines and a bomb kit that all say “This is my spot, Get out!”
Even an elite that drops a realy built base on the head of our enemys.

Hey I dont make the rules.
Warriors are almost always the masters of melee combat.
Rangers are almost always the masters of ranged combat.
Spellcasters are almost always the masters of AoEs
Thiefs are almost always the masters of Spike Damage.
And Engineers are almost always the masters of Zone of Control.

Of corse this doesnt always have to be true. You could easly have a class that summons demons and demonic spires to function like turrets and healing stations.
But most game devs dont tend to be that creative, so it defaults to the engieer with his turrets that get the job of Zone of Control. Less confusing for the player base that way too.

To wrap up this rambling, Being static should be to the classes advantage.

Your post would have been well-made if not for the fact that turrets are so useless. Engineers aren’t mobile because they are meant to be masters of zone control with turrets, according to you… And yet who honestly uses turrets and can do so while being as effective as other classes?

Erasculio.2914:

Snowshadow.3105:

Is GW2 shifting its target group? from casual gamers to hardcore gamers?

I think the way you worded your statement is a bit vague, considering how there are many definitions of “hardcore”. But I agree with your point – I think ArenaNet is changing its target audience.

Before release, ArenaNet said, paraphrasing, “if you like MMOs, you should try Guild Wars 2; if you don’t like MMOs, you REALLY should try Guild Wars 2”, hinting that they were aiming at the players who skewed classic MMO conventions. At release, we got a game filled with content for players focusing on having fun, with all the little bits of world dialogue, all the nice Easter eggs hidden in many out of the way places, and so on; sure, the game had its flaws, but it had a lot of potential to improve and become something truly unique.

Since release, ArenaNet took the game in the opposite direction. They have focused on introducing farming content, be it the second Southsun Cove with 200% Magic Find, or the Queen’s Pavillion, or the invasions. All of those had very shallow events repeated over and over, completely disconnected from the world around them, without the charm or care seen in much of the game at release. This content was not aimed at the players who “don’t like MMOs”; it was aimed at the MMO locusts who want to farm, grind, and exploit.

What probably happened is that ArenaNet noticed the MMO players not only are the majority of their current playerbase, but also the easiest to please. If you don’t have to worry about the quality of the content you build, only that it will give a reward shiny enough, it’s easier to make a game than if you are trying to please a group who wants fun content (and all the subjectivity implied there).

Thus, then, the reversal of GW2’s target audience. Not players who don’t like MMOs, but MMO players who play (farm?) Guild Wars 2. Those are who the game is currently being made for.

This was a very well written post.

I don’t really care about the nerf so much. I haven’t seen its effect in game yet so maybe I’m just ignorant of how big the changes are. However, I did see a post in here where someone said something like “even anet is calling it a petting zoo. . .” So… ANet has been so clearly scared and shaking over the idea of losing any of its serious pvp community that the devs will do or say anything. They have no issue caving, even if it is something that doesn’t need to be changed. Watch any SotG and tell me they aren’t absolutely shivering and stuttering whenever something is brought up that the players on there aren’t happy with.

It really doesn’t help any point to use Anet’s words or actions in regards to balance as evidence of anything.

Obviously just anger about the status quo being upended temporarily.

Is there any penalty for this at all?

Rangers suddenly have a build that isn’t mediocre = everyone whines. This is amusing.

bishop.7596:

Pentzski.4620:

Hello CD, you’ll be getting approximately 10 new transfers sometime tonight

“Welcome to Crystal Desert
Population: untold millions”

We’ve spoken during mid fights…glad you guys decide to join the resistance, best fighter always a volunteer:)

@TC one of the most boring server to matchup in GW2 I’ll rather its DB/FA, outnumbered us still refuse to fight had to squirrel under superior acs and wait for 100men whist everyone else swap flies away. Guess its a good week to start visiting the Queen.

You outnumber TC in those pictures. =s

Anyway, so many people get upset and want to complain and make a scene on the forums. I understand that usually these people are just too prideful and need to pump themselves up somehow, so I won’t hold it against you. But, in the end, every server has different types of people. We have guilds and individual players who will run head on into larger numbers if it doesn’t mean losing an upgraded objective. We have guilds and individuals who value the objective over fighting. We also have those who know they aren’t good at PvP, and as such they break and run easily from fights where they don’t have an obvious advantage. You may not like it, but that’s tough. Each one of those groups of people have a right to play how they want. It shouldn’t make everyone so emotional and hateful.

Here’s to another week of staying off the forums to avoid bad trolls.

In case it makes anyone on CD feel better, we have had very low activity on BLs lately, so at least you can have some fun on them in the coming week between people map hopping to them to cap stuff.

Twinbros.5372:

Vash.9183:

Twinbros.5372:

Vash.9183:

Twinbros.5372:

SykkoB.9465:

Twinbros.5372:

SykkoB.9465:

Twinbros.5372:

Vash.9183:

Jet.4795:

HAI BG and SoR! Hopefully we will get to fight you guys soon! Until then hopefully the fights are good!

And hopefully JQ has enough NA left to give some fun. I know TC does, but… where? Not saying TC isn’t giving much fun, but it’s definitely a drag that their fairweather playerbase seems to be rather high.

Some of us are just done with you and SoR lol Mega blob fights are no fun, nor is the constant coverage your two servers seems to enjoy. If that makes me “fairweather” then I proudly wear that badge. I’ll wait for next week when we get matched with servers it’s fun to fight.

Funny you say this, Cause i see the same thing said about tc by FA DB SOS.

Never seen that myself so can’t say I agree with you.

???? do you not read your match up threads ??

I do and never seen that comment.

This was posted by a Maguuma member during a match-up with TC last month.

It’s a picture of a TC Zerg…what’s your point? Mine was that SoR and BG have near 24hour coverage and mega blob. We zerg too, but most the time not nearly with as many numbers as you guys do.

No, you were saying that you have never seen other servers say the same thing about TC. My point is that they do. Also, that your server can put out the same amount of numbers if they wanted to.

But no where in the chat log does it show them complaining about our numbers/coverage so that picture really doesn’t say much.

And I gotta disagree with you. TC is a full server for sure, but there are only a few dedicated WvW’ers, and we don’t have the Oceanic coverage. Not complaining about it, in fact I’m hoping this helps us jump back down to tier 2.

If the people complaining about SoR and BG showed up to fight instead of cowering in PvE and on the forums, TC would have enough numbers to make it a close game.

I wish TCers would actually show up. We really do have a chance to make the gap a lot smaller than it was last week if people did not shy away from an actual challenge.

Teamkiller.4315:

Oolune.4357:

DeWolfe.2174:

Ragnar.4257:

If I understand right, OP is a Gandaran having a go at some [JDGE] guys dueling. I don’t know who OP is, but I’m willing to bet he’s probably someone of no importance.

This is exactly the type of arrogance that isn’t needed in the game. And, if there is a queue, duelers need to take it sPvP. I know this really doesn’t exists on my Tier. I’d make certain they were Zerg Rolled for taking up the queue.

The type of arrogance that isn’t needed is others trying to dictate how another person should play the game.

This should be said to the OP, who is trying to tell us we shouldn’t gank people who disturb fight clubs then jump/dance/sit on their body.

It should be said to the OP. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to say it to him in such a mild way and the powers-that-be keep getting on to me.

DeWolfe.2174:

Ragnar.4257:

If I understand right, OP is a Gandaran having a go at some [JDGE] guys dueling. I don’t know who OP is, but I’m willing to bet he’s probably someone of no importance.

This is exactly the type of arrogance that isn’t needed in the game. And, if there is a queue, duelers need to take it sPvP. I know this really doesn’t exists on my Tier. I’d make certain they were Zerg Rolled for taking up the queue.

The type of arrogance that isn’t needed is others trying to dictate how another person should play the game.

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Hope you had a fun week with the new guys. Hopefully not too much fun since we weren’t there. I won’t stand for that.

You’re the best. =D

Aren’t they more likely to be Ruthless if they don’t have any Ruths manning their arrow carts? Because if they have Ruths manning the carts they’re not being RuthLESS.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Oolune.4357:

It’s that time again, folks!

Happy reset eve!

Pure awesome!

Love your “Stick Figure Theatre” Oolune!

All for the hard-working men and women out there on the battlefields. ;D

Gellor.6497:

HAHA so kitten funny

And many thanks to you for the idea of using the gecko head!

It’s that time again, folks!

Happy reset eve!

Everyone says “just stop using skills.” Sorry, but not using skills in a zerg might work. Stopping dead in the water in smaller encounters is as bad as taking massive amount of damage more than half the time.

Evalana.5480:

Gellor.6497:

etrigan.4213:

Gellor.6497:

1) DB is pumped about being with TC/FA in T2 (No doubt)
2)DB also has a huge PvE/PvX community
3)Imo TC/FA wasn’t expecting our SEA crew to be that big. Everyone talks about [NNK], for good reason, but we have more than that.
4) Our guilds are still in the process of transferring over also. Only [RE] and [rB] are fully here.
5) This is the most important one, When TC/FA fought us last, they stomped on us, and I’m not sure they were expecting the server we have become. Caught by surprise. Things will be different now since they know we came to play.

To be fair I think you guys owned us during SEA in the past…so it wasn’t much of a surprise.

You guys have had a stronger SEA than us for a LONG LONG time.

Yea I would agree, just when other servers hear of our SEA crew it’s mostly [NNK] but we have more guilds than that, is all I meant!

P.S. At 9:00 EST/8 Central/6 PDT we are having a group score update! Please guest to FA and meet by the LA Lion! This is including AoN, this time you can’t run over me!!!!!!

Oh darn, I’m late! But it’s my birthday, I have an excuse – Take Two?? <3

Happy birthday!

Vespirisa.1497:

I thought it was Tarnished Tuesdays Where are all teh TC players. I see a lot of FA running around

Not sure about others, but I just got my “Avenger of the Dispossessed” title and my fused gauntlets. =D I also saw a lot of people farming Molten Facility looking for the jetpack, but unfortunately I have a paper to write and can’t take part. =(

Sometimes people have a relatively decent point.

Then their post suddenly includes “WVW GUNNA DYE IF IT NOT CHAINGED”

WyldKat.4712:

Asudementio.8526:

If you want everyone to be honest perhaps you should say something honest.

I really love pie, all kinds. But warm apple pie with the crumbly crust. I get the warm fuzzy thinking about it.

I love pies. I love every kind of pie~ I just want to hug ’em all~

/sings

Dhampyr.2104:

Coinin.2590:

Keep in mind TC’s strongest days for point gain are Mon-Thurs, past few weeks FA has been the lead during a good deal of the weekend until the actual week itself up until last week where KN sadly imploded where we led almost the entire time. At this point it’s to easy to say anyone’s owning anyone. Not only has DB gotten a few large transfers in the last week that are helping, but we had a really sad showing this weekend for TC it seemed. I think TC/FA should be taking DB seriously, but I think its way to early to try and say 1 server is owning anyone’s backside.

Excellent point. Let me try to put this to bed and say the point of my original post was to say that all of the servers are good. We wouldn’t be in T2 otherwise. Pretty sure that any of the current servers in T2 have the ability to win the week. This is a great matchup, it’s competitive, and I really don’t understand the crazy kitten comments that have been flying around.

This is a game, it’s supposed to be fun.

Some people don’t have enough real drama in their lives. This causes them to seek it elsewhere. =(