Ha nice, once a few more ascended items come out we’ll be able to hit 100%
From dulfy’s transcript (thanks dulfy):
“Q: Elaborate your plans for changing AoEs
This is not a quick fix, we are getting a lot of data.
If your skil does 10 damage to a single target, if you have another skill that have the same opportunity cost but deals 8 damage to 5 targets, the AoE skill is better – we don’t want you to use AoE skills on single target mobs.”Which aoe has the same opportunity cost as a powerful single target skill say on a staff ele? Meteor shower has a long cooldown and cast time it costs way more than any single target spells the class has. Same with churning earth on D/D.
They also said they want to discourage zerging in WvW, well making aoe less effective will only lead to more zergs.
That quote was more likely aimed at an engineers flamethrower, fits the description said and you can use it constantly. So yeah, more engineer nerfs I think.
I wouldnt be surprised if our aoe kits got a nerf in one way or another. For example, when it hits, our flamethrower can almost do as much single target damage as our rifle. And in the livestream they mentioned something along the lines of if the aoe damage is 8/10ths as strong as single target damage, then the opportunity cost is too good.
I hope im just overthinking it though
they may as well remove daggers from ours weapon set, as they will become utterly useless after the nerf; and get rid of the staff too, while you are at it.
Well, at least give us a sniper rifle…May as well just remove the class from the game if we are just going to keep getting nerfed ..
Hey, this will be the 3rd game I’ve played that mages got overnerfed and population of which died.
So much for gw2 and “play your own style” (more like “play the nerf man”)
I feel you, just look at us engies. Every single major monthly patch nerfed us in one way or another and look where we at now :/ Heres hoping the eles dont go the way of the engie
@Penguin.5197
What are you talking about?
There’s tankcat, static discharge, AoE kit swappers, 4-kits, grenadiers, immobilize-bunkers, swap might stacking, elixir might stacking, FT might stacking AND turrets (though sub-par due to bugs atm), do you actually complain about variety?
http://dulfy.net/2013/01/17/gw2-dev-livestream-jan-17-transcript/
“A lot of classes have 1-2 good builds while some have 5-6 builds , we want to bring up all the classes to 5-6 good and viable builds.”
Yes we have plenty of builds, but he is not just talking about builds. He is talking about good and viable builds. You mentioned Grenadier as a build, but is it really viable? something you would want to use in most situations? probably not in the current way it is.
In all seriousness though, we should be getting buff too if they want every class to have 5-6 good builds. At the moment, it seems the only two good builds that stand out and are generally agreed to be good are the tanky ones (aka such tankcat) and static discharge builds.
Edit: also if other classes are getting portal, seems like engineers are the best candidates to get one
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My guess, if they nerf aoe across the board they will surely hit the grenadekit, bombkit and possibly even the flamethrower.
And when they talk about buffing weaker traits and professions with few build options, they are talking about Elementalist and Rangers.
Grenades still too op, another 30% reduction is in order? lol
I wasn’t able to hear anything about what is going on with engies, anywhere, which is sadly my main concern. So even though it wasnt discussed in livestream, I am still hoping to get some answers. Are there any plans to make engineer better, such as less rng on skills and more dependable skills to rely on? And any plans on changing turrets? Or are engineers in the position where you want them?
And thanks for any reply!
Also dont forget our forums were put right below the elementalists forums! >:( Then, just because were that sad, they tried to take pity on us by putting other class forums right below us! But we dont need no pity!
raaaaaaaaage!
sorry it took a while to check here but invite send to all!
Okay I just did it and can confirm that you can use the toy bag from wintersday event to pass it on. Than you developers for the most best unintended wintersday gift ever!
Wow screen came out all dark but still good
Only an engineer would use pistols to shoot everything but bullets
We had this same question a few months ago and after a lot of discussing and trying we decided there was no way for this, only because there is no such thing as a white back item. :/ Though using the wintersday backpack still gives me hope if it is account bound but I doubt it.
Cannot say much for melee wvw, but melee is definitely better than ranged in pve. I read in lfgs asking for heavies only (guardians and warriors), because not only do they have the greatest defense, but the greatswords rip apart enemy npcs.
If you are still unconvinced come play a pistol or rifle engineer and tell me how much damage our ranged weapons do.
Considering this is the time game developers seem to be most actively talking about upcoming changes in future patches (spvp, pve, wvw and what not), I thought this would be the best time to ask for any spoilers on any upcoming engineer changes. I am sure others are also waiting to see any changes coming but for some one like me..I just can’t resist to ask, really eager to hear anything so please…just this one…tell us whats new! And thank you in advance anyone who would take some time off their work to let us in on whats going on!
Invite send to all the people above cheers and welcome all!
Would be hilarious to see you guys (maybe like 15-20) all at once plant a whole area with the big ol’ bomb in WvW and see what happens XD
We get to star in a Michael Bay movie that’s what happens
Let it be known that at least we were partially successful if anything else. We had captured durios, then set up lots of arrow carts and turrets for the inevitable zerg that would head our way. Too bad they took too long in attacking lol
“Engineers hip shot animation changed because it was absurd. They now throw their gun at enemies instead.”
Who sells this flamethrower? And now I’m kind of curious if our other kits are being sold by other merchants.
I am actually glad to see a moderator passing feedback along, gives me hope our class might still be improved. Now that ive I said that, yes I agree on removing or limiting the absurd amount of luck skills we have, for the reasons already posted by previous people. And yes dont be afraid to give us a damage increase!
Let them keep their mobility but take away their immunity to everything. You would still have a way to escape but still be screwed if someone immobilizes your or dps’s you on the spot. No one should have a free escape from death unless we all have it.
/signed an engineer with horrible down skills
Aww man, I was hoping we could get away with this, but anyways, if you want an invite join here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/Recruiting-for-new-Engineer-themed-guild/first#post1174617
Hail fellow engies!
The idea of a line of turrets is simply making me shiver!
It’s sad that there is so few hardcore engies even within my guild to carry out such a feat!
At the CD server now, I doubt I can join you guys in FA, but I look forward in seeing mass tornadoes and turrets in the fields of WvW. Let’s steal the limelight from all those bands of roving thieves & warriors, unkillable elementalist and portal spamming mesmers.
We have at least one in cd lol you can join him and hopefully..other cds might join you soon
Invites all around! and..
and can the numbers per servers be put in a prominent position and kept updated (please)
I’m on the desolation server, with friends and guild perks so wouldnt want to leave- unless maybe enough engi’s wanted to “take over” a low ranking world?
I’ll ask op to help put server numbers on top when I’m done categorizing people (there is still plenty of people who I don’t know what server they are on since they logged off on overflow..unless it only shows overflow for your own server but not sure yet) But most notably we have at least 3 from stormbluff isle and 4 on borlis pass. You would make the second from desolation so far
I like that idea very much. Ill rather just replace explode turrets skill and leave overcharge as it is. Would be cool seeing rifle turret upgrade and go from one rifle barrel to two, then finally three just like the way its icon looks.
and maybe let it explode as an option once fully upgraded
Or even better picked up and moved around
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Since I don’t know how to add multiple pics on these forums, here is another screenshot of a wvw we quickly made up yesterday. We were able to push them back in eb dredge tunnels, where they made the mistake of choosing a dead end tunnel and resulted in lots of badges. Good times.
We had a cross-server dungeon party going today, it went well here’s a screenshot I took of a full engineer cof run
So yes with about 40 people in so far this group is advancing and working out quite well, even if we all cant wvw together, we can still do dungeon runs and what not ^^
Funny enough, us on the engineer forums section have had the same idea..but with engies. Good luck with this though, it might be hard but not impossible!
Invite send to people on top.
Also were trying for first real run for FA wvw this sunday at 9 a.m. pst/gametime, there was seemingly no objections for that time. I hope somehow everyone gets the memo >.>
And Ill be posting up the total number of people per server soon.
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Quick project status update:
While we are still growing on people in other servers, I started to send out mail to those in fa, where I ask for their best time to play. Once I find what the best time is for most people we will get this ball rolling.
Edit: Also if anyone has any ideas to get those engineers that do not read these forums, please do tell
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I’m down….
Where do I sign up!?
Tried sending you an invite but max guilds reached
Also here is the current progress:
Total: 16
Fa server:9
Henge of Denravi: 1
Seafarer’s rest: 1
Tc:1
Dh:1
Ioj:1
Desolation:1
Blackgate:1
And waiting response from 6 people.
Fa can have about two parties ready to go soon.
Oh the places we’ll go with this!
Indeed! We wont let anything stop us from doing this!
While the recruitment has been going alright, there was a major obstacle blocking the path. While half the current people are in fa, we have like a person in server x, one in server y, and so forth. Plus the limitation of mostly being in fa prevents a lot of people who want to give it a try from joining in. I thought it would have been best to try to get as many engineers in one server as possible, but It is then that I realized that to solve this issue, the only way to make this happen is to make the guild cross server. This will help in maximizing the number of people who can try this idea. For example even if in the end there is like 5 people in a server who don’t want to switch, but still do it, that’s a full flamethrower rampaging party right there. There are 24 servers and a maximum guild capacity of 500, so if the engineers were spaced out evenly across servers that’s still 20 people per server, 4 full engineer parties each. The thing is, this idea still has a lot of room to grow, and it is in a unique situation among guilds.
So for now, lets say if you are interested in doing this, just say you wanna do it, doesn’t matter what server you are on right now, there are probably others on your server who want to do it too. So lets guild up together and figure out any other problems as we go along
With the inevitible slaughter before co-ordinated SD burst and the sorts, how ’bout You Need A [BUFF] ? Or would we rather have the guild name and tag separate?
Name set too late now :/ lol
Current update for that group:
9 Members with 5 more who asked and have been invited but haven’t accepted yet.
Its a decent start, and thanks for your efforts in working towards this goal!
I don’t think we should have a Server name in the guild, i think it would be pretty awesome if all of us server changed often, since it’s free
and find the worst server that’s being whooped right now, and help them win
JUST TO PROVE WE’RE AMAZING
and I think having Squadron sounds better then Regiment, just imo
Im thinking that even if we start off in fa, when the guild grows we should go visit low ranking servers and just help them out. Help out those servers that only have like one or maybe even no wins! So yeah for that we could use as many engies as possible, no matter what server theyre from
Also the other guild ad I made for this idea was moved to guild forums. I was hoping it would stay under here so more people who do play engineers could see it but oh well :/
Nice, nice. This idea is going at a good clip! Plus the people invited from the other thread, at this rate we should be able to start attempting some wvw soon!
That would be AWESOME!
Sign me in!
You have reached the max number of guild memberships..or so the game tells me
Invite me
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Its send
Hello fellow engineers,
I am here to recruit engineers to join Fort Engineer [NERF], which spawned out of the idea in this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Engineer-Guild/first#post1172442
The primary purpose of this guild is to wvw together as engineers, drop a mess of supply crate on enemies, run around in flamethrowers as a group, and generally screw around together in an engineer themed based zerg! I understand that many of you already have a main guild, so this guild will mostly act as a secondary guild, only requiring to represent when we do wvw together. Benefits of this guild means that you would finally be with other engineers! No more being the only one of your kind in your whole guild! Raise your chest, put your chin up! Its time to represent Engineer pride!
Updated the situation
To reach out to have as many engineers to do it as possible, we are trying to go for a cross server guild. So no matter what server you are in you wont be forced to change servers. (Ideas and stuff explained on linked post.) Having enough engineers in another server, they can start their own wvw parties, also even if not that many on said server, we can still party together for dungeons and similar things.
I attached a screenshot of what we have been doing, but we want to make it even bigger!
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Engineered For Greatness [efg]. And I’d be totally down to join haha
Walrox you reached your max number of guilds :/
The way im seeing it planned is its just a second, not primary, guild that we can spend like a few times a week doing wvw with as a group. Youll probably still be representing your main guild as usual, except for those times we get together.
Since by now it would be hard for people to leave their established guilds.
Well unless someone takes action nothing is ever going to happen so I took matters into my own hands. Fort Engineer[NERF] on FA. Dont take the guild name or actionss seriously, itll just be like a second home, or when us engineers feel like playing around. if you want an invite just ask
Edit: btw i just wanted a guild named “Engineers” but that was already taken :/
I was gonna create one but I already have my own personal guild >.< Lets stop dreaming and someone in fa server create one!
…I think we have 5 so far
Also if this idea goes off and we do it on FA, lets name the guild Fort Engineer!
Engie Pride!
I’m an engie on Fort Aspenwood too, seems many of you engies are here also for some off reason