Guild Wars 2

As a Mesmer main, soon to be Chronomancer main, I find it highly insulting that the Tempest elite pretty much dabbles on the Borderline of Chronomancer time manipulation.

The Tempest deserves something more “Storm Oriented”, even if it has to be a support based storm themed spell. But to give them an elite that has NOTHING to do with their theme as a elite specialization is just slapping elementalist mains in the face and outright unfair to them. Not to mention how their elite works.

ANET Iam saying this because I care, and I’m sure many other elementalist mains would agree, that having a different elite altogether would be the right choice.

Well LOREWISE, Id have to say:

1. Humans – Human Mesmers from a lore point of view value the arts, they are very charming and also value the latest trends in fashion. Most human Mesmers, (Male or Female ) are flamboyant in appearance. They carry themselves in a very classy manner and are also known to be apart of the Human political government, and noble population within Human society. Human Mesmers, patron Goddess is Lyssa, the goddess of water and duality.

2. Sylvari – Sylvari Mesmers, may appear very mysterious, charming as well, and elegant. Sharing certain personality traits with Human Mesmers to also add. However they do not have interest within fashion from a Human frame of mind. They of course value their leafy attire, as most Sylvari do, regardless of profession. Sylvari Mesmers share similarities with other Sylvari who practice other forms of magic, so not much else to add.

3. Norn- Norn Mesmers, from what I’ve seen and read, worship Raven. Raven seems to be a patron for Norn Mesmers. I believe Norn Mesmers, are rather cunning, and secretive. However, Norn Mesmers do not have a interest for the arts, fashion, or elegance as Human Mesmers would.

4. Asura- Asuran Mesmers, do not hold any differences or similarities from other Mesmers, they see mesmeric spellcraft as another Magical art to use. To put it simply, Asuran Mesmers personality is not affected really by being a Mesmer like other races.

5. Charr- No… Charr’s dislike and do not trust magic. Even though there are some Charr who practice Magic, it seems they’d hate Mesmer magic out of all. No to Charr. No no no!

At the end of the day, I’d have to say Humans make the perfect Mesmers. They truly embrace the Mesmeric spellcraft beyond its combat capabilities. They utilize the magic within their appearance, fashion, entertainment, politics, and personality. You can usually tell when someone May be a Mesmer in Human society, by the way they carry themselves in a confident, classy, charming manner.

Hope this helps.

Choppy.4183:

@apharma
I replied to your comment already and even gave an indication of when I’d be looking to get off the PU crutch. You also suggested it’d be better to try it out after the golem week was over. You do know what day it is today, right?

I’m also not sure how to factor in the increased dps I’ll be facing post patch. Open to ideas if you have them. Of course, I could forgo the whole experiment by pointing out that none of you stalwart defenders of PU have actually admitted to using it… In fact, I think you’ve all said that you don’t. Ptetty easy to conclude from that alone that the buff wasn’t particularly needed. Same with the general lack of demand for a stealth boost to PU pre-patch. I could also just ask all the people I know who main members whether they felt they were just free bags in Wvw. I’m fairly confident they’ll laugh at the idea.

I’m also not auto dismissing PvP elements. More than one of you guys made the case that the PU stealth buff provides little benefit there, yourself included iirc. If you want to walk back on that point, go ahead. But you’re the one taking PvP out of consideration by saying PU doesn’t matter there, not me.

@Necrotize
I was responding to Denis’ example. If you don’t think his example had merit because you’ve somehow divined the “truth” about what’s important in this game and what isn’t, take it up with him. At least try to keep up or just ignore the thread. It’s not hard, you know.

Ummmmm excuse me sir, I happen to main PU condi since I began my PvP career in gw2 2 years ago. Pretty bold of you to state that no one truly uses PU.

Fay.2357:

jayson.6512:

Fay.2357:

jayson.6512:

Fay.2357:

jayson.6512:

Most of the mesmer main said that mesmer has a high skill cap after patch but i just saw this vid and mesmer rn has a low skill cap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtf63IpFLHw

It’s sorta adorable that you think a shatter montage is justification for literally anything.

I think you don’t get what i want to say when i post this? do you remember when a warrior Hambow healing signet is a thing that they can just stand and win even not outplaying the other player? What i want to say is that those kind of build should not exist because it makes the game boring. And same with this build.

You’re trying to say that mesmer has a low skill cap based off of a WvW shatter montage. I’m laughing at you for doing so.

Whatever dude this show that guild wars 2 players as long they main the class they won’t admit if it’s broken. Guild Wars 2 player always my class is not broken but other class is so please nerf them. I only main a warrior and i admit that some of the build is broken and that’s why i stop playing for now in spvp because everybody there thinks they are pro. And i’m calling mesmer has a low skill cap base on some broken builds if you can’t admit it then fine.

No, what you’re doing is making a fool of yourself. You clearly don’t understand what a skill cap is. You clearly don’t understand how little a shatter montage demonstrates anything. You clearly have only a tenuous grasp of how to formulate a coherent argument, and all of this is displayed clearly for anyone looking at this conversation.

Seems most of those complaining about the Mesmer, do not really make any sense at all. Seems most are upset that we can enter stealth and burst “safely” from stealth. Seems most are reluctant to learn how to counter us, so they complain we are OP, and we need a NERF. I find that highly unfair.

I have mained Mesmer since I started playing Guild Wars 2, back in November of 2012. I’ve watched Mr.Prometheus old extensive YouTube video about the profession, spent hours upon hours in PvP, PvE, and WvW. Yet before this latest patch, I always felt like, Mesmers always had to pull of intricate, puzzle like maneuvers in order to get any sort of decent damage in, compared to other professions easy burst combos.

That always frustrated me as a lover of the Profession. Now that our damage has been boosted up, across all builds of condi and power, other people are complaining. This truly displeases me because people are acting as if the class cannot be beaten now, but what I really see, are people whining about how they could kill the class before without thinking twice, but now, they actually have to work hard.

aophts.9862:

I wanna kill them, i hate mesmers with a passion.

How do i even fight them? How do i counter?

How do i escape of being transformed into a moa while they are invisible and lose 80% of my HP in 2 seconds?

Please, help me understand how to fight mesmers as a warrior and guardian.

Thank you.

Poor thing. Just run.

What I hear is basically people have learned how to fight thieves but now that Mesmers are in a good spot damage wise, we are considered “broken” or OP. Because before this patch, Mesmers were never a threat. Now that we can hold our own and more without being a shatter Mesmer, people have issues. Thief stealth and Mesmer stealth have their differences, specially when applying burst or dealing conditions. Every class has their defensive options and offensive options depending on their build.

And Mesmers have their stealth. We are squishy, mages are squishy, glass cannon. Get it? We have to hit hard, not hit less. Defeats the purpose of being a squishy Mage.

Purecura.1795:

EremiteAngel.9765:

I used to call for nerfs on mesmers with a fervor.
but that is now history.

some days ago I created a mesmer, played it, learned it in better detail, and now my opinion is that while it is insanely strong in the hands of a pro versus a lot of current builds/classes, it is not undefeatable.

I watched a pro condi PU mesmer take on two thiefs, one average thief, one pro thief.
the mesmer downed the average thief, but didn’t manage to stomp.
And then, the average thief got ressed by the other pro thief.
both thiefs are d/p btw.
the pro condi mesmer continued fighting both thieves for close to 15 minutes. no one else fell, then the fight broke up as other players joined in.
but the point is, the mesmer actually held off both thieves for 15minutes, one of whom I know is very good, and almost killed the other average thief.

I think the OPness is that mesmers have high invis uptime, and a mimic skill that allows quick recharge of say blink, or invis, and a mantra(stun/cleanse/heal) that can be stored and used again in battle for up to 4-6 times(traited)

This is quite the insane disengage and sustain/damage depending on the mesmer’s build. However, I think that what it has done is made mesmers a lot more challenging to fight against now.

New tactics need to be used against them. For example, if they blink to create distance, dont run through their clones to get to them unless you got an instant gap closer available, run in the opposite direction. if they want the kill, make them work for it.

If they go invis, don’t random dodge/block because their invis uptime is very long and they can engage at any of those seconds. however, you could count to 5 and if they have not engaged, you may want to random dodge since their invis will be running out around that time or up to 8 seconds if they had invis using their elite.

Also when they appear from invis, don’t be too quick to hit them with a killer move because chances are they got an aegis up!

The same pro condi mesmer, I fought him with my necro, and killed him with two well timed condi transfers. (he killed me 3 times before I killed him though cause I didn’t time the transfers well and got blocked by his aegis and dodges and I tried to get to him by running through all his clones when he blinked away to recast his mantra)

My point is, they are strong yes. but they are still flesh and blood and can be killed.

This is coming from the former number 1 mesmer nerfer.
Please stop the mesmer hate.

Edit: I also saw a very pro warrior kill a decent condi PU mesmer. what the warrior did was kite and opened up the distance from the mesmer/clones with his GS when he had too much condi stacks on him. Then engage and try to catch the mesmer with his mace/shield stuns and bursting him with the GS. He did this a few times and was never in danger or dying to the PU condi mesmer. On the other hand, the PU mesmer was always the one who seemed more likely to die and in the end the mesmer did lose.

Edit2: so far I’ve been talking about PU condi mesmers above, the only power stun/interrupt mesmer I fought was once only. I lost, but he almost died as well. Was very close so I wouldn’t say they are impossible to fight against either.

Oh and btw, all of the above is my experience in WvW only.

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This. PU Mesmer is fine. People are complaining because they just dont know HOW to deal with the new Mesmer. But that does not mean we are invincible. Just not as easy to kill, like before.

EremiteAngel.9765:

I used to call for nerfs on mesmers with a fervor.
but that is now history.

some days ago I created a mesmer, played it, learned it in better detail, and now my opinion is that while it is insanely strong in the hands of a pro versus a lot of current builds/classes, it is not undefeatable.

I watched a pro condi PU mesmer take on two thiefs, one average thief, one pro thief.
the mesmer downed the average thief, but didn’t manage to stomp.
And then, the average thief got ressed by the other pro thief.
both thiefs are d/p btw.
the pro condi mesmer continued fighting both thieves for close to 15 minutes. no one else fell, then the fight broke up as other players joined in.
but the point is, the mesmer actually held off both thieves for 15minutes, one of whom I know is very good, and almost killed the other average thief.

I think the OPness is that mesmers have high invis uptime, and a mimic skill that allows quick recharge of say blink, or invis, and a mantra(stun/cleanse/heal) that can be stored and used again in battle for up to 4-6 times(traited)

This is quite the insane disengage and sustain/damage depending on the mesmer’s build. However, I think that what it has done is made mesmers a lot more challenging to fight against now.

New tactics need to be used against them. For example, if they blink to create distance, dont run through their clones to get to them unless you got an instant gap closer available, run in the opposite direction. if they want the kill, make them work for it.

If they go invis, don’t random dodge/block because their invis uptime is very long and they can engage at any of those seconds. however, you could count to 5 and if they have not engaged, you may want to random dodge since their invis will be running out around that time or up to 8 seconds if they had invis using their elite.

Also when they appear from invis, don’t be too quick to hit them with a killer move because chances are they got an aegis up!

The same pro condi mesmer, I fought him with my necro, and killed him with two well timed condi transfers. (he killed me 3 times before I killed him though cause I didn’t time the transfers well and got blocked by his aegis and dodges and I tried to get to him by running through all his clones when he blinked away to recast his mantra)

My point is, they are strong yes. but they are still flesh and blood and can be killed.

This is coming from the former number 1 mesmer nerfer.
Please stop the mesmer hate.

Edit: I also saw a very pro warrior kill a decent condi PU mesmer. what the warrior did was kite and opened up the distance from the mesmer/clones with his GS when he had too much condi stacks on him. Then engage and try to catch the mesmer with his mace/shield stuns and bursting him with the GS. He did this a few times and was never in danger or dying to the PU condi mesmer. On the other hand, the PU mesmer was always the one who seemed more likely to die and in the end the mesmer did lose.

Edit2: so far I’ve been talking about PU condi mesmers above, the only power stun/interrupt mesmer I fought was once only. I lost, but he almost died as well. Was very close so I wouldn’t say they are impossible to fight against either.

Oh and btw, all of the above is my experience in WvW only.

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Kusa.6438:

I don’t feel like PU is anywhere near overpowered. Considering there are thief builds that allow perma stealth and 1 shots. PU isn’t being abused, its being used as intended.
I just feel like people get frustrated because they still don’t know how to identify the real mesmer… which is easy as hell.

See, this I agree with. PU is in the spot it NEEDS to be in.

AlphatheWhite.9351:

jayson.6512:

Why every time i post in this forum you guys always say the same “learn to dodge” as if i don’t know that, i already commented this to other thread that my 1vs1 buddy is a mesmer and pre patch i can win against him depending on the build but after this patch i always lose so please tell me did my buddy become so pro and i become so bad just after the patch? just to add only mesmer class i’m having a hard time killing but guards 50/50.

It’s absolutely true that mesmers are stronger now than they were.
You beating your buddy before the patch, but not after, is not terribly surprising if he was always a mesmer.
Mesmers were operating under a disability before, and now they are not. A lotlotlot of the whining about mesmers right now is coming from people who were able to just farm mesmers before, but now actually have to try…and they don’t know how yet.

The reason for the constant “learn to dodge” you’re hearing is because most people right now complaining about mesmers don’t realize just how big a deal that is against mesmers…they aren’t used to it!

That doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with mesmers (or a lot of classes right now), and that you might just come up against some unbalanced mechanics, it just means most of the people we see come through here complaining just haven’t learned to adapt to dangerous mesmers yet.

In short, your friend might have been better than you this whole time, but because he was playing a mesmer, you didn’t know it until now.
Or, it really might be because his build is just overpowered (is he stunning you a lot? Lockdown builds are pretty oppressive right now).

Either way, rule number 1 to dealing with a mesmer is dodging the burst. If you dodge at the right moment, you’ve probably negated most of their damage, and they have to get their illusions back up before they can try again.
Rule number 2 is to cleave the illusions. Illusions die fast, and they can’t insta-shatter you without their illusions.

^This

Mesmer was so lack luster before the latest patch. You’d see shatter Mesmers everwhere, and you’d rarely see other builds. I hated that. Now that Mesmers have been buffed up, to the level they need to be in, where multiple builds are now strong, rather than the shatter META… you still have people COMPLAINING! Its idiotic.

I think ANET has done a fine job. If ANET will NERF something, it better not break the level of power we mesmers have now.

sephire.7296:

Fay.2357:

To do a shatter that strong, you need to be point blank range with your target for mirror blade, then use that skill without it being mitigated, then shatter. Not the height of difficulty, but not exactly easy either.

Well no let’s be honest, it is incredibly easy, especially when you have a torch equipped.

Still, you need to position yourself, clones, and make sure your oppenent, is vulnerable. Definitely not easy compared to some other class’s easy 1-2 button burst.

MrForz.1953:

Purecura.1795:

Phantom Master.9582:

Woah, thats a lot of roasting there buddy. We don’t have enough cold water for all of his burns. xD

As for my thoughts on the matter:

Arguments against nerfing PU often feel extremely selfish, not many people care if other players are having fun or not fighting your infinite stealth build. If you want PU to stay please give solid arguments.

I feel like OP is saying ‘’please don’t nerf PU, I’m having fun now that I’m abusing the broken mechanics of stealth and stunlocking people so they barely get to throw any moves at me, so don’t listen to people who have constructive arguments as to why it should be nerfed’’.

It honestly saddens me that people just want their class to be better than others simply to have this unfair advantage over them, no sense of individual skill or pride at all.

If mesmer is actually balanced right now, then that’s freaking great, but we at least need arguments as to why you think mesmer is currently balanced.

No one said they want Mesmer to be OP to any other class. It saddens me how people “ASSUME” things based off of what others say. Clearly PU is not OP. Condis are PU Mesmers weakness. We arent GODS walking among mere MORTALS.

PU is fine. Leave it alone.

That’s clearly what he wanted to read. ._.

False, people are upset about PU having buffed up mechanics. The BUFFS that PU has or even lockdown only mean that other players need to learn how to fight a Mesmer differently. I remember when people were complaining at how to fight thieves before the patch as a Mesmer, and most said just RUN. Now we can hold our own against them.

Fay.2357:

punahou.3986:

ah ok thanks

I thought people were complaining about 1 mesmer able to do this.

So at least for any aspect of pvp— you have to have a mesmer spec group.

People are ignorant and complain about lots of things that are untrue. Permastealth is a fun catchphrase that people like to throw about in complaints without any justification or intelligent thought. Don’t worry too much about it.

This. Pyro said it perfectly.

Phantom Master.9582:

Fay.2357:

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Woah, thats a lot of roasting there buddy. We don’t have enough cold water for all of his burns. xD

As for my thoughts on the matter:

Arguments against nerfing PU often feel extremely selfish, not many people care if other players are having fun or not fighting your infinite stealth build. If you want PU to stay please give solid arguments.

I feel like OP is saying ‘’please don’t nerf PU, I’m having fun now that I’m abusing the broken mechanics of stealth and stunlocking people so they barely get to throw any moves at me, so don’t listen to people who have constructive arguments as to why it should be nerfed’’.

It honestly saddens me that people just want their class to be better than others simply to have this unfair advantage over them, no sense of individual skill or pride at all.

If mesmer is actually balanced right now, then that’s freaking great, but we at least need arguments as to why you think mesmer is currently balanced.

No one said they want Mesmer to be OP to any other class. It saddens me how people “ASSUME” things based off of what others say. Clearly PU is not OP. Condis are PU Mesmers weakness. We arent GODS walking among mere MORTALS.

PU is fine. Leave it alone.

I’m happy with the PU buff, all these people complaining really annoys me. PU and lockdown have always been my favorite Mesmer builds. With the PU buff to stealth and the boons you get are amazing, I truly enjoy the gameplay even more when playing as a PU Mesmer.

Arena Net! Robert Gee! Please don’t NERF the PU buff, I really feel PU is beyond fun now. So once again thank you, and don’t listen to the negativity spewing forth from those hating on the new buff for PU Mesmers.

As a Mesmer main for nearly 3 years now, I enjoy watching other classes squirm at our new found strength. Thanks ANET. For making the most glamorous/elegant class out of any MMORPG, much more powerful. Kisses

I’m sorry Rangers, that we are trouble for you, but we Mesmers have our own problems… freaking Elementalist…

Thank you Robert.

I hope you get the chance to read this post. The Mesmer truly is Guild Wars 2 trademark class. You cannot find any other class like it out there in the vast sea of MMORPGs. From a game play perspective to even more so, the LORE of the class.

The Lore of the Mesmer is what truly drew me in more than the gameplay. You see as a player who likes to connect with their character and class it was important for me to play a class that spoke to who Iam as a person. Mesmer did just that.

From Mesmer lore (Human mostly) on their deep interest in fashion, their flamboyant ways (Male and Female), to their interest in beauty, and their charm that could have a whole room eating out of the palm of their hands (Cough~Countess Anise~Cough), to even their Graceful approach to combat, have truly made the Mesmer a class that for all time will hold a special place in my heart.

Robert I have always wondered what inspired you and those who helped create such a unique profession. From its flamboyancy, beauty and grace from a lore point of view to a combat point of view, and how they tie together so effortlessly. What inspired you all to manifest this beautiful class with those amazing qualities?

Once again, I want to personally and humbly thank you for creating such an awe inspiring class that has even inspired me in real life. I have a deeper interest for fashion, and have even decided to pursue fashion design. For every time I hear the mention of the word fashion, I get reminded of the Mesmer.

Thank you Robert Gee!

“May Lyssa bless you with unparralled eloquence.”

Sorry but, MESMERS are known for beauty, grace and classiness. Specially for a Human Mesmers according to the lore of GW. Chaos, why even let that bother you. People aren’t harping on masculine art for warriors etc. let Memser be what they are, a class of beauty and illusion. The Unicorn art is my FAVORITE out of all the other trait line arts.

As a feminine male, The Mesmer class spoke to me in ways more than any other class out of any other MMO. Mesmers are known for their deep love for the latest fashion in Guild Wars lore. So if you are a Macho man who feels bothered by the subtle feminine things in life, stay away from Mesmer please. Or expect to see such beautiful flamboyant art for this amazing glamorous, FABULOUSssss class.

What’s the big deal about feminity? I’m sorry but I hope most people do not see femininity as a weakness or less than to masculinity. Fem and Masc have their own strengths. One is not better than the other. Get out of that old world mind set and embrace things in a new light. Embrace the feminity. There’s nothing wrong with that.

Sorry but, MESMER is known for beauty, grace and class. Specially for a Human Mesmer. Chaos, why even let that bother you. People aren’t harping on masculine art for warriors etc. let Memser be what they are, a class of beauty and illusion. The Unicorn art is my FAVORITE out of all the other trait line arts.

As a flamboyant gay male, The Mesmer class spoke to me in ways more than any other class out of any other MMO. Mesmers are known for their deep love for the latest fashion in Guild Wars lore. So if you are a Macho man who feels bothered by the subtle feminine things in life, stay away from Mesmer please. Or expect to see such beautiful flamboyant art for this amazing glamorous, FABULOUSssss class.

nearlight.3064:

I also joined to engi bandwagon somewhat recently, but I’m a true multiclass main at heart.

With engineer theres a lot of different things you can do, and it honestly depends on the role you want. Grenades and Tool kit have been the staple kits on meta builds because they have the best offensive and defensive skills needed to do well in team fights. The elixer gun is a good weapon kit too, and its much stronger in 1v1s, which isn’t the focus of conquest, and it also needs alchemy to function. Bombs have some potential in more condition focused set ups, while I generally advice against flamethrower. The last utility should be something like slick shoes or elixer S.

So you want full condition engineer: you need rabid gear, pistol/x (although I prefer OH pistol now that burning is broken). For kits you pretty much need grenades, and then the other kit(s) depend on traitlines you take. If you go alchemy, take e-gun, if you take explosives, which is ideal with grenades, bombs is also good. Don’t underestimate slotting tool kit though because its really good at outplaying enemies and gives you a lot of options. Anyway grenades are needed because they’re AoE proc spam, which you’ll need to be efficient in team fights. Pistol/Pistol has amazing condition burst against single targets by contrast. Bombs have area denial and good condition pressure with shrapnel and the short fuse trait.

Also for condition, firearms is mandatory for incendiary powder and chemical rounds, which is pretty obvious, as well as the bleed on crit procs. Other than that balth runes, geomancy and torment/doom/energy sigils are good choices. So if you have explosives/firearms, you can do many things with the last traitline. I like inventions for bunker down and mecha legs and the heal turret reset, but its a bit more efficient in celestial, as is alechemy to an extent, which needs elixers/e-gun to be ideal. You could also go tools to counter thief teams but thats up to you.

Just keep in mind the weaknesses of rabid engi, namely other condition specs, so stay away from terrormancers and condition rangers, as condi ranger has more sustain than you and terrormancer can use your conditions and lack of cleanses to kill you, other than that its a pretty strong build, but will likely be weaker than celestial rifle.

After reading this, you have cured my confusion by a lot. Thank you! Not only was your post easy to understand, it also has inspired me to take up my Alchemy pistols and go full force into condi with pride! I will focus on using Grenades, Tool kit, and E. gun, with mortar elite. I will swap out tool kit for bombs as well. Thank you once again for your advice.

I used to main a Mesmer, and I recently tried out their new updates and quite frankly IMO, Mesmers now have a variety of ways to build themselves to be effective combatants. Which is amazing!

However with Engi, I struggle to understand what build is worth using. Do Engis even have any good build diversity now?. I’ve been in PvP mostly and I tried making an Engi relying on kits. From grenades to using the Mortar. Cele rifle with hoelbrak runes. I seem to do “OK” on matches but I still feel like I’m not doing a lot of damage compared to other professions.

I’d like to play a full condi Engi, but besides using pistol/pistol, idk how else to build a condi Engi. I need help. I don’t wanna give up on Engi. Please.

HAH AND THE NEW TRAIT MENU HAS ART RESPECTFUL TO ITS TRAIT LINE! Eat that! All of you were saying its not important, but now look. There is the art I asked for hahaha!

I have to disagree with Sorel and Jurica on my behalf, regarding Lockdown. I main Lockdown and when it comes to team fights I cannot stress how many times I’ve turned certain losing fights around for my teams favor, by the use of interrupts and AoE dazing. I utilize staff and sword/focus. A skilled lockdown player can offer team fights many unique benefits that a P-Shatter cannot. Lockdown is the hardest build to master but it also brings tons of rewards for skilled play. A master lockdown Mesmer is (IMO) truly
More terrifying than any shatter Mesmer.

(In 1v1 situations we are equally terrifying when played right, compared to the the bursty P-shatter Mesmer. I have downed enemy players in a matter of a few seconds. Applying my interrupts correctly and dazes, Sometimes I can pretty much shut a player down from even reacting at all, while damaging a player to the point of zero HP. Now I may not be able to burst him/her down faster than a P-shatter Mesmer, but downing a enemy player as a Lockdown Mesmer isn’t to far off regarding the time it takes to kill that player. It just takes skill and timing your dazes/interrupts. Lockdown Mesmers burst potential is not like a P-shatter but nonetheless we are a power build, and can hit like a truck.)

I enjoy being able to interrupt a stomp or even a ress when needed. Or even interrupting a Necromancer from going into Lich form. Most of all lockdown really shines when I can help shutdown enemy players during team fights in order for my team to effectively carry out their roles with ease. Even if the other team has a pesky thief on their side, I usually don’t have to worry about facing them. Major problem I have faced as a lockdown Mesmer is when the enemy team realizes what kind of Mesmer Iam, I become their main target from time to time during team skirmishes.

Now in no way am I saying screw P-Shatter, but realize that for now it may be more difficult to face a thief using that build (if you are using it). My advice is play what you enjoy. But do not neglect trying other builds out. Lockdown in particular is a unique Mesmer build that offers unique benefits to groups. I for one enjoy the benefits more than what a P-Shatter build offers.

Omg I love fighting Thieves. At first ( when I played Power Shatter ) I was terrified of fighting them. Then I tried condi PU for awhile. Utilizing Confusion stacks, most thieves went down in seconds when they fought me. However I recently switched to Lockdown and let me tell you! I love fighting the tricky insects!

With the amount of interrupts, and dazes, they go down so easily! I think shatter is the hardest build to use against a thief, but when it comes to the other builds, especially lockdown IMO, they are nothing to FEAR anymore, and are quite easy to kill!

So with Chronomancer’s traits, it seems our spec will compliment shatter builds and lockdown builds even more? Specifically speaking on Lockdown for that is what I play. Will lockdown become even stronger with the new Chronomancer traits?

Kelthien.8593:

What I liked about the new alacricity, Double-shatter phantasms, and extra clone-on-shatter was that it provides an alternative for Deceptive Evasion. You can still build around shatters without needed the constant shatter-fuel from the Dueling line, which is super appealing to me!

Chrono seemed to emphasize control/support rather than raw damage. I’d imagine folks who want shatter-dependent damage will probably still see a lot more use from the Illusion line than the Chronomancy line, but can’t say for sure until we see all the traits.

Chrono seems like…. death by papercuts. A strong shatter build is still like a nice big stab in the face.

I agree with this. It’s not stated that the ELITE Specializations will be better than the core Mesmer, however it will offer a new form of gameplay. Specifically with the chrono, who is more about control and support rather than damage. If one wishes to shatter for pure damage I’am going to assume, the player should stay away from the chrono line to some extent.

The developers did say that elite specializations, will focus more on a specific ROLE during gameplay, more than our core Professions.

Go away time traveler, you’re drunk

Chaos Archangel.5071:

If this isn’t the most clickbait-iest thread title.. I don’t know what is.

Still, cool vid. Love that game.

Hue hue! I just had to share it. Reminds me of mesmer/ chronos

This is what we Chronomancers will be able to do. How exciting huh? Time Time TIME!!!

Ohhhhh look the CHRONOMANCER in action again hue hue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEuN8j2kPK0&feature=youtu.be

OMFG I CANT WAIT TO WEAR MY ELEGANT GRACEFUL GOWN AS A CHRONOMANCER!!!

Bump. Need invite fellow Mesmers and chronomancers

IGN: Velvet Diamant
Server: Tarnished Coast
Time zone: EST
Role: Scholar (Seeking to perfect the beauty of Lockdown. Iam inspired by Chaos Achangel)
Play style: PvX
Playtime: usually afternoons towards the late night

Ive always played MAGE classes in every MMO Ive played ( Played 70+ MMOs for the past 10 years.) I’am naturally drawn to the arts of magic and how unique it is to conjure a elemental storm or Meteor storm, vs swinging a sword like a raging warrior.

I have always been drawn to the intellectual scholars of the fantasy world. Their habits, style of dress, and attitude fits me perfectly. Elementalist in GW2 does this perfectly (Staff Elementalist that is. I do not like the style of D/D ele, its too Avatar air bender or whatever for me, sorry Nickelodeon). Staff is a true MAGE weapon and every MMO or RPG has a MAGE using a staff.

Playing a Cele Staff Elementalist in PvP has been so rewarding. And PvP and WvW is just as fun! I love the spells a Staff Ele gets, no one can compare to our AoE power and size.

Rhaegar.1203:

You could also say the same about a fish vendor. Hang ‘round smelly things, such as reanimated corpses, you’re bound to catch the smell yourself.

Disgusting.

Necromancers do seem to smell a bit.

Here is Sebedoh, a Mesmer from Guild Wars 1 commenting on Verata’s smell, if the player character was a necromancer.

“Oh look, a Necromancer. ‘Tis one thing to exploit the dead, and entirely another to dominate the living. I don’t expect you to understand. Talk to Verata. You’ll know him by the smell.”

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sebedoh_the_Mesmer

(I wonder if some Mesmers thought of their magic as superior to necromancy due to the fact that Mesmers dominate the living compared to the dead.)

I just love the fact that human Mesmers are into fashion, more than any other profession. Here is a quote from Howland the Elementalist from Guild Wars 1 reacting to the player character if they are a Mesmer.

“What is it, Mesmer? You can’t possibly think I have anything to teach you. I don’t pay attention to the latest fashions. Sebedoh is your man.”

Here is that link: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Howland_the_Elementalist

It goes to show, that Mesmers are in fact very classy and elegant. Human mesmers that is.

I feel as if Spirit ranger is highly lacking, but I know that’s not new. I hope ANET buffs this build up. I don’t really care to be a Pew Pew Power ranger all the time.

I’m running a 4/6/4/0/0 condimancer with runes of the undead

We don’t summon demons lol, where did you get that idea. If you want some class reference, I suggest reading about D&D Demonologist and Necromancer. Matter of fact I’ll post a link.

Demonologist: http://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Demonologist_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29

Necromancer: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Necromancer_%283.5e_Class%29

It’s safe to say that Developers at ANET draw inspiration from the classes from Dungeons and Dragons. Specifically the Guardian being an inspiration from the Cleric class from DnD one developer had mentioned. Now while the GW2 variant of Necromancer is different from what a true Necromancer is via the description from D&D, it is Tyria after all, and Necromancers in Tyria operate differently. Does that make them less than a true Necro from historical D&D? No not at all, jus different mechanics and lore. It’s ANETs world after all.

This makes me so happy. I will NEVER play a POWER based Necro. WHY? Because from a fantasy perspective, Necromancers deal with DECAY, PLAGUES, CURSES, DEATH, and SICKNESS… Which means, Damage Over Time spells. Not some heavy hitting necro. Psh!

I’m glad my Condimancer will finally see the light of day where my insane condition output will be put to full use!

Iam a new Elementalist. I’m going for the staff builds. Mages are not iconic without their staff. If you are a true mage, stick with staff

FelipeRomero.4267:

We found the source of the problem. Frametime should be back to pre 3/10 patch times.
It was a bit harder to track since the issue only manifested itself on specific hardware configurations.
This thread was of great help to track the problem. Thanks!
Once again, We apologize for the inconvenience.

OMG!!! My FPS is back to normal! Thank you so much and give my thanks to everyone who worked hard to resolve this issue!!!

ArtemisJade.9068:

Purecura.1795:

Id be a FLAMBOYANT Male Mesmer, with a lust of the latest fashions, charming, and highly manipulative, oh AND extremely wealthy.

This is one of my favorites so far simply because it sounds like a character straight out of a novel.

Haha! Yesssss! And he would be just as flamboyant in the arts of Mesmeric combat as he would be at a Divinity’s Reach Fashion show haha!

Id be a FLAMBOYANT Male Mesmer, with a lust of the latest fashions, charming, and highly manipulative, oh AND extremely wealthy.

I find myself looking for other MMOs to play but, none. Are worth it. I considered playing WoW, but GW2 is just so unique. I just wish this issue would go away. I want my FPS back

I wonder if ANET’s UI technology mainly destroys the FPS of AMD cards. Even though there are some Nvidia affected.

FelipeRomero.4267:

We have indeed noticed performance issues on the latest release.

We performed optimizations on our post processing effect pipeline, which were released on Wednesday. Our guys also put a lot of hard work optimizing the new camera collision code. These changes were released yesterday.

Although these changes have improved performance we still haven’t solved the issue you guys are experiencing.
We have top men working it right now and we will get to the bottom of this!

Thanks you guys for your patience.

Thank you so much for the hard work you and everyone else working on this issue.

LordAdre.8174:

Support replied to me, they seems to think the FPS issue is OUR fault.

LOL Anet needs to hire a new support team.