Crystal Desert; The Viking Server
When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I feel alot of server pride for Crystal Desert.
We’ve got a lot of good people in our WvW zones, and we never give up! Go CD!
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
This is true when there’s no hope of winning the battle, however that wasn’t the case in SMC at all. Each army sat inside the capture point for upwards of 10 minutes. It really was anybody’s guess who was going to come out on top. If CD had an extra body or two in there, who knows, it may not have flipped.
He just said you guys had already taken it when he got away.
You guys won’t give us credit for anything will you?
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I didn’t think it was implied that I ran out in the confusion. I took advantage of said confusion as long as I could.
Sometimes you can just look around and see that your death has no meaning, so getting away in a situation like that isn’t a bad thing. You can’t really be a “coward” in a game where death has no meaning.
There is such a thing as a tactical retreat.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I guess CD just don’t understand what it takes to be a maguuman, so please don’t xfer over here because you guys will qq about how we play.
You’re right, we don’t know how to be Maguuman. We can’t comprehend getting rolled so hard, then still claiming we’re better.
Also, I had a 1v3, then a 1v4 against the supposed elite maguuman small force pvpers. I figured I stood no chance, being my zerg wasn’t with me. I mean, Crystal Desert players are nothing without the zerg, right? But I won both encounters! So weird. I guess this means, since I fought, collectively, seven people, that you’re whole entire server is actually awful.
Furthermore, during your successful capture of SMC, which did seem to catch us off guard, as well as EBay coming in from the other side at the same time, I got 31 badges off the impregnable maguumans. without being downed once, and getting away to boot.
So, with that said, and most of this thread going to shambles (admittedly, this post is no different than most in here, and apologize for that, but I could only read so much blowhard before responding) I, sir/madam, along with what i’d think would be the vast majority/all of our, Crystal Desert, server are proud of not being maguuman. Mainly, and this is just speculation, because we like to, you know, win. Something you guys just haven’t added to your superior tactics, yet.
heres how this game works, 90% of players in wvw are bads. the rest are good at pvp. these 10% will always destroy even numbers, and more often then not, more numbers.
however because CD simply has more people, it means the chances of the 10% from mag meeting the bads on CD is going to happen more often. this is where the claims of the skillless CD comes from.
its not saying everyone from CD is bad, its just a sampling bias.
Good point ^
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Well, we took Stonemist
Nice to see someone over there is open to suggestions from the “enemy”. I’ve been hoping you guys would make this week interesting.
Now maybe Ebay can step it up too.
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Anything with Dr.Phil and even racism comments… I sincerely hope the rest of Mags are not with you in this, |Bones. You merely made your server look bad, especially after your last posts. lol.
Oh and you take this forum way tooo seriously, you need to calm down a bit
On page 1 he was telling me about how laid back he is. Of course that was when CD was the brunt of the criticism.
Shoe… meet other foot.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
It’s because you guys only want to acknowledge the good stuff about your server
I don’t think we’re reading the same thread.
Yep, he was readng other thread i guess. Oh and I am CD Asian player as well
Sorry, didn’t realize you went to go see Dr Phil and everything about you changed in the course of a week. I’m a US asian player too but what does that have to do with anything except for the fact im not online during 4am pst.
It’s referring to your comment that they only acknowledge themselves and not the night zerg. They are the night zerg.
That and this odd notion that we don’t acknowledge anything but the “good stuff” about our server, which I don’t know where that came from, since there have been plenty of comments from our own CD players, myself included, acknowledging our faults.
The fact is it’s the Maguma players posting here who can’t acknowledge anything bad about their server. Heck they’ll even argue that they don’t care about winning on one page and then argue that they do care on the next.
I’m happy to admit that CD has issues… but this idea that we’re a skilless mass of zerglings is nonsense.
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Just the fact that you’re holding a chicken at the beginning makes this vid worth watching!
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
And yes, making the NPCs not useless wouldn’t hurt immersion at all.
That would be nice throughout the entire game to be honest.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
It’s because you guys only want to acknowledge the good stuff about your server
I don’t think we’re reading the same thread.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
i honestly don’t remember us at CD calling anyone, let alone TC, mindless zerg. that term was introduced by our opponents in these 2 match ups. if there’s anyone who love to use the term on another server it is certainly not from CD, most likely from our opponents in these 2 match ups.
I think one guy implied that when they had a late night zerg, TC they would run around looking for undefended towers to take, and if they spoted defenders they’d run away. It was likely true, fot at least that one night that he was talking about…. but we never, ever argued that TC’s entire server was an unskilled cowerdly zerg, or anything like that.
If anything the whole week against TC was about the jump puzzle.
Other than that, I almost never see CD talk bad about the other servers. I for one have held the highest regard for Maguma and Ebay, as I recognize it takes a lot not to give up while outnumbered.
Every server has it’s strengths and weaknesses, some people just love to go around pointing out the weaknesses of other’s but can’t take when the SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT.
See below for an example….
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I see and hear sentiments like this from fellow Maguumians all the time and that’s more of what they mean when you see “Mag doesn’t care about winning”.
You don’t see the contradiction there?
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@ Bones….
Funny how fast you rush in to defend your own server when the shoe’s on the other foot though, isn’t it?What the hell does that even mean lol. I’m sorry but i put on my shoes correctly since i was 7 years old?
Seriously? If you can’t even see this point, I’m not going to talk to you anymore.
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I don’t really see what point you made.
Obviously not.
equating of “WvW success” to skill is absurd.
You’re wrong here, and untill you understand WHY you’re wrong, you’ll never fix what’s holding your server back.
THAT is my point.
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@ Bones….
Anyone can place massive amounts of siege in their own keep and hold that one spot for quite awhile. I find it funny that that’s the types of things you guys consider a success.
Anyway, I made my point. You can ignore it if you want to, but arguing is not going to change my opinion of your server. Especially after so much bragging in the forums about your skillzz with no actual WvW success that I can see. If you want people to see your skill, show it in the game, and I don’t mean stealth jacking lowbies while they do supply runs either.
Funny how fast you rush in to defend your own server when the shoe’s on the other foot though, isn’t it?
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I know my server much better than you do, so I think you should leave that point alone.
Maybe so, but many of your players in this very thread have said straight up that they don’t care about winning. So if there is a large, but very quiet group of Maguma players oput there who do want to win, you might want to have a little chat with the people attempting to speak for you guys on the forums. Somewhere along the lines you’ve got some signal’s crossed.
I find it a little weird that both CD and EB claim we have a lot of thieves, but I don’t really pay much attention to that.
Likely because you do.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
Problem isn’t really with Warriors or any other class, or any certain over powered ability… the problem is that people go down too fast in this game period.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
If you’re implying that we don’t make attempts at objectives, i believe you’re mistaken.
I’m not implying that you don’t make attempts, I’m implying that you’re bad at it. I understand you’re outnumbered, mostly at night. But many times during the day and evening you’re not. I’ve seen attempts to retake your own keeps many times in which larger Maguma forces were driven away very easily. You seem to have a very high thief / Messmer ratio, which I’m sure is great for solo killing at the supply camps and then bragging about your skillz….. but is pretty much worthless for sieging.
Your defense, which consists almost entirely of putting large amounts of arrow carts and balistas in the lord’s room and then letting us come right in, might be good for farming badges, but isn’t great at actually holding points for a long period.
I’ve never seen you make an attempt at SMC, and with the number of badges you guys claim to have I’d think you could pull it off. Maybe you spend too much on arrow carts, I don’t know.
Some of you love to take our credit away from us as if we have no skill, and then go around giving advice to CD on how we should be managing our forces, but if you’re completely unwilling to see the big picture, it makes your pov in WvW a very narrow one.
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We need REAL hench men in this game, GW1 style!
That or make a solo version of this dungeon. This forced grouping nonsense needs to go.
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Wooshing denotes not understanding your statement.
Exactly.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
Score does reflect skill rating. At all.
Whooooshhhh
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I think like many have said, we might be more inclined maybe to try to win(putting more effort) if the numbers were even throughout all times
Sure, I can see that. But when CD is down in numbers we still care about the score, and we still make attempts at objectives that will make an impact on the score. Obviously there are going to be people who bail when the score is low, but for the most part our commanders are still there, still attempting to go after big targets… and again, that’s what I love about CD.
The only reason I’m even bringing this up is that so many Maguma players love to come here and bash CD as if we have no skill…. but my point isn’t that one server or style of playing is better then the other… it’s that we do have skill, it’s just focused towards different objectives.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
My point is, that If you don’t try to win, you don’t put yourself in a position to EVER win. Because of this, it becomes easy for you guys to discount the score, but in the long run you’re not doing anything to get better in regard to what WvW is actually about.
I think this is where our servers disagree.
That was my point.
It’s not that we don’t try, it’s that it’s not our intention, we play to the fullest, or else we wouldnt even bother sieging up a keep/tower/camp and defending it, our intentions is to enjoy the game, winning is a luxury that shouldn’t be chased after, hell i want a mansion but i’m enjoying living in my apartment.
That’s a nice sentiment but it contradicts many of the other posts being made by Maguma players who seem unaware that there’s any point to winning at all.
Again, I’m not telling people how you SHOULD play. I’ve made it very clear that if you enjoy playing without looking at the score, then by all means that’s how you should continue to play. I’m just making an observation as to how the attitude that the score doesn’t matter effects the way you DO play.
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It’s the people who really really care about winning that bandwagon onto winning servers.
I think you’re missing the point. I care about Crystal Desert winning. Not myself personally. If CD doesn’t win, I attempt to play in a way that will help them win in the future. I don’t switch servers.
Maybe the confusion stems from the way Maguma plays… where individual success and the number of badges is more important than server success. For me, CD’s score is far more important than my own personal gain. Because of that, switching servers woudn’t help me at all.
Are there people who server hop just because they want to win for the personal benifits? Sure. But that’s not what I’m talking about. Winnig in itself isn’t the important thing… being on a server that trys to win is.
That’s why I love CD.
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My point is, that If you don’t try to win, you don’t put yourself in a position to EVER win. Because of this, it becomes easy for you guys to discount the score, but in the long run you’re not doing anything to get better in regard to what WvW is actually about.
I think this is where our servers disagree.
That was my point.
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So you mean in your opinion only the server with the highest score (most people) should play
Not even remotely.
Please outline why getting a higher score is a good thing for Maguuma.
My point is, that If you don’t try to win, you don’t put yourself in a position to EVER win. Because of this, it becomes easy for you guys to discount the score, but in the long run you’re not doing anything to get better in regard to what WvW is actually about. So while you’re having fun (which is great) and gaining more players who think the score doesn’t matter (which is only great if that’s the type of player you are) it’s never going to get you anywhere as a server. If you don’t care about the score, then I’m not going to “outline” why you should. I really don’t care how or why you play.
I’m just saying that unless you care about the points in WvW, you’ll never improve at gaining them. Nor will you gain many other players who care.
Lots of people like to win, lots care about the score. Not all are bandwagon players.
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Why should Maguuma care about winning? This is an actual question. Please outline why getting a higher score is a good thing for Maguuma.
Kind of an odd question if you ask me. Why play if not to win? But then, as I said different people enjoy different things. (shrug)
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How would a Bot actually help in WvW? They’d be so easy to kill.
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We have had discussions about how to counter that bad rep, but I think our play and how we handle ourselves in the game will have to win over folks.
I actually think your in game play is very respectable, with a high degree of skill….. which is why, even though a small few of your players like to come to the forums and criticize CD, while bragging about their own skill, I’ve still not lost my respect for Maguma as a server.
I do believe that, as a server you’re a bit too focused on individual PvP and badges to ever gain much ground as a WvW competitor, but that can be chalked up to enjoyment. Play how you like, and have fun. That’s what the game is about!
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I don’t doubt that CD with their numbers could have taken the SW, but this hacking has to stop. If you are even remotely interested in playing fair, please police your members CD.
CD player here and I agree. I think part of the problem is that hackers tend to go solo or in very small groups of friends they trust. Hard for us to police people who play that way. Good you reported him.
I would use report against my own team if I knew they were hacking, but havn’t seen it myself yet.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
Yeah, i won’t lie, if honestly CD became more organized (not saying they’re not organized just saying it could use work), they would be one hell of a server to compete against, even against TC.
I think part of the issue is a language problem. We seem to have a large population of players from other countires. Of course this is great for the night crew, but hurts us with organization.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
I think the biggest indication of how “skilled” Maguma is can be seen in this latest attempt to zerg CD back, and failing miserably.
We get criticized for 2 weeks about how bad we are with our “mindless” zerg, but when Maguma has a large zerg they don’t manage to do anything at all with it, other than go from camp to camp dropping siege that gets destroyed 5 minutes later. Any attempt to take something important on the map gets wiped easily by CD’s response teams.
The entire server seems to be made up of “gank” type classes or builds, good for 1v1 or combo ganking out of stealth, but no real ability to WvW… so even when they have a larger group they have no idea how to adjust to that advantage. They just continue to use the same plans they’d have used in a small roaming gank squad.
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6-3
Even worse when there’s more than one stealth classs ganking people with combos.
No corpse dancing?
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
That being said, I have no problem making money in w3 or at the very worst, breaking even.
This is SOOOOOOOO missing the point.
The entire game economy, including anything you might want at the gem store is controlled by a large number of PvE players who have mountains of gold, while we pat ourselves on the back for making a bit here or there.
If players spending x number of hours doing one type of game play are making far more gold than players spending x number of hours doing another, it’s not a good system, and goes against what we were told this game would be like.
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WvW is supposed to be the games way of taking money out the ecomony
If that’s true, it’s ridiculous.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
Great post above ^
This post makes absolutely zero sense.
Actually it made a lot of sense. Ressing is to me, one of the best teamwork features in the game.
Everyone dies sometimes, not because they’re idiots who should be punished. Frankly, if people are playing WvW to “punish” others, I’m a bit worried for the state of the game.
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Not sure why you guys hate the video
It’s the context that I object to. After 2 weeks of “friendly trash talk” in wich we’re called mindless, skilless, zerglings,etc. it stops being “friendly” if you could ever call it that, and just becomes disrespectful.
That and the vid’s title.
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Some of you need to realize that this is not PvP it’s WvW.
If the person you killed gets ressed, it’s because your server is not doing as well in that area as the enemy server. That’s how it should be.
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I’ll do my part to get this thread headed in the right direction..
http://youtu.be/fnX0ByMz2t8
What was the point of that video? That burst AOE can kill a group of players in a small area? That those spin attacks are OP? That people go down to quickly to all of the above?
I’m trying to mainitain respect for you guys here…..
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Winning is as boring as being steamrolled.
Hasn’t been boring the last two weeks. Maybe we have more players at certain times, but Maguma and Ebay are strong servers and fun to fight against.
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WvW doesn’t pay the bills and as mentioned above it’s population is only a fraction of the games total member base.
I don’t believe that this is true.
People interested in WvW is actually a large number, but unless there is a focus to keep it interesting, they will never capture that audience to it’s full potential.
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It’s not so bad. Obviously they’ll be doing a Winter event, than take some time for the holidays. Likely start back to making new content in January, so it will come in February.
I’m just glad they’re working on it.
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eventually you’ll grow up and learn that.
Just transfer already.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
So again, being honest is talking trash? We have some very amazing commanders, like Titan War, Hammie, Jack Daskshade, BIBO,
Ahhh but you didn’t say THAT did you? You said, don’t come to CD, their commanders suck. Now you’re admitting that we do have good commanders after all. So you weren’t being honest, just taking the wost possible stance in order to make us look bad, so other guilds won’t join.
That is trash talk. Not honesty.
And how do you even know what the new commanders are doing? You’re in the fractals!
Because I like to enjoy the game?
No, because you abandoned WvW to do fractals when we needed people the most, and then took that time to come in here and bad mouth the people still in WvW while you farmed karma in PvE.
Thanks for nothing.
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Last time I commanded was like two weeks ago, doesn’t really do it that much anymore as I’m farming karma/fractals with my other toons. Siege is expensive, you know. :p
People like you are why we’ve dropped down a couple tiers.
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I have no type of loyalty to anything whatsoever (excluding my guild as I have plenty of people there I know in real life)
Exactly… so you’re not a good comander. Nice to have that established.
Being honest is hardly talking trash, unless you’re offended by the truth, and facts.
So going into other threads and telling people not to come to CD because our commanders are bad isn’t trash talking? If you don’t want to be here, just transfer. Don’t go around the forums putting other players down.
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Zheen, you realize that you are absolutely a terrible commander right?
Absolutely terrible. One of the worst I have ever seen.
Do not come on this forum and act like you are relevant or that you have any idea what is really going on.
LOL!!!
You’re entitled to your opinion, and several people said the contrary so meh. My first priority is to have fun and plenty of people agree with me (and follow me whenever im commanding), the rest is irrelevant.
I’ve never even seen you before. … but coming here to trash talk your own server in more than one thread, kinda tells me all I need to know.
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Someone obviously didn’t make it to Sun Tzu chapter 421 — Avoiding Forum Flamebait by Not Dumping Five Paragraphs of Obtuse Whining at Every Opportunity
So you had no interest in any real discussion at all. Nice to know.
Don’t be such a tight wad, relax a little bit, just play the game, i know zastari is having a blast messing with you. i’m sure we all trolled someone in this forum once or twice, if you let it get to you then you just been trolled.
See… that’s the thing, it doesn’t get to me at all. I enjoy posting my opinions on the forums. If someone wants to play forum troll and give me more chance to speak, while simultaneously making himself look bad…. more power to him.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?
Someone obviously didn’t make it to Sun Tzu chapter 421 — Avoiding Forum Flamebait by Not Dumping Five Paragraphs of Obtuse Whining at Every Opportunity
So you had no interest in any real discussion at all. Nice to know.
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When are people going to figure out there’s a war going on?