Guild Wars 2

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kokiman.2364:

“I’m a solo gamer”
Okay so why do you play MMOs? It’s not like there are so many awesome solo RPGs around, right?

There really isn’t. At least none that add all the things MMOs can add, like crafting, economy, PvP, WvW, constant updates, new content etc. etc.

Solo RPGs last about a month, and then it’s done. MMO’s can be played for months.

I’m a solo player, who has been playing MMOs for about 12 years now. I hate group play, I LOVE MMOs…. The idea that somone who really enjoys a genre is playing the wrong game just because he enjoys it in a different way than you is just very silly to me.

It’s FUN playing MMOs solo. That’s why people do it. Is it really THAT hard to understand? I don’t think so.

Tulisin.6945:

Vv W.7821:

I have to agree with Tulisin on this one.

I don’t even necessarily disagree with the premise. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with increasing the rewards from WvW, but it needs to be presented as such straight-up.

I have to say, you’re both wrong. First of all, the OP’s point is made straight up. Just because you can sort of make a bit of extra money doesn’t mean WvW is worth while if you can make far more farming PvE.

It’s not a matter of needing to buy 50 arrow carts or whatever, it’s the fact that someone who does PvE will have enough to buy far more of ANYTHING than somone who only does WvW.

That’s not right, regardless of what you want to buy. Not only does it put WvWrs on the bottom of the economy but it hurts the entire WvW player base in ways I already mentioned above.

Good question.

And to make matters worse, because it’s really just for fun and not as lucritive, WvW remains less popular than PvE. Which explains why WvW always takes a back seat to PvE in regards to content updates and balance issues.

This doesn’t even mention the fact that there is better gear in fractals than anything you could get from WvW.

It’s a self defeating cycle.

Hot Boy.7138:

@Rainbowcrow

Use my name correctly.

LoL at this thread.

YB in the same spot that CD was in 2 weeks ago, winners get no respect in this tier.

Hot Boy.7138:

Point is, I’m there to kill and not cap bases.

That’s you.

The point you seem to be missing is that many, if not most players don’t WvW for pointless killing, but for the actual strategic game of WvW.

Many of those players are not built for, nor do they really care much about 1v1 fighting. So while it’s great that you can play your way and enjoy the game, it’s simply a fact that many of the players who have no interest in fighting you are not running away because they’re “afraid”, or bad at their class….. it’s because they simply care about WvW more than they do solo PvP.

akamon.2769:

at the same time, as illustrated in OP’s e.g.‘s, they’ve wasted 10 mins “hiding” in the keep or tower while OP is for whatever reason, “camping”.

From the OP’s perspective it’s hiding. But in realty that player is helping their server more than he is.

While both players spent 10 minutes doing pretty much nothing, the player inside the keep is accomplishing more by being in a spot where he can relay info to his server if that keep is attacked by a larger force. It’s a stalemate, that’s earning points for only one side. The person camping is accomplishing nothing at all.

Berengar.6951:

I think many of you underestimate what a solo roamer can do.

How is killing yaks and flipping supply camps useless? When I’m playing my thief that is pretty much all I do, and if I happen across a solo/small group of enemies, well if it’s red I’m going to try and make it dead.

Killing yaks and flipping supply camps is great. It’s not what this thread is about though. The OP is talking about 1 person fighting another person which really has very little effect on WvW.

I hate the animation, and would not be playing a Charr because it’s so annoying….

However, all you have to do is draw your weapon and you run normally. Problem solved.

kuora.5402:

It’s not because you’re such a great PvPer than people might run away from you, it is most likely because they are more useful in WvW than you.

This ^

1v1 in WvW is, in my opinion pretty pointless.

Almost all of my WvW characters are classes and builds meant for group vs group combat. I’m ok at 1v1, but not built for it. So often I avoid 1 on 1 fights.

Also, in my opinion tactics are more important than 1v1 skill. So I always try to know what’s going on around me. Sometimes what looks like “running” is actually just an attempt to lure an enemy into a situation or area where I have an advantage. If there is an NPC near by, why wouldn’t I use that?

“Afraid” is the wrong word to ever use in a video game. I’m pretty sure NO ONE is actually afraid. Most people would just rather not waste time in pointless fights they’re not built for.

What’s not to get? Pre Made teams would ruin it for those who just want to jump in and play withont facing already established teams. That’s why it’s random.

Currently the snow ball fight is the most balanced PvP in the game, and I like it.

Cooperate with people on your team, it’s not that hard.

emko.5632:

Sorry to piggyback on this post but I have to mention very annoying voices of ladies in Divinity’s Reach. I was crafting armor and all I could hear constantly is this obnoxious sound they made: ahh ahhhhh ah ah ahhh (as if eagerly accepting new information). Terrible…

OMG That drives me nuts!!!

I’d rather downed state be made more balanced than have it removed.

Non issue.

Any extra repair bills we might get stuck with are worth the number of badges we’ll get now that people can’t Alt4.

CD player here, and I want to say Lanimal.6541’s post above is pretty dead on from my experience against TC.

I really don’t see the point in badge farming. Just take the keep and move on.

Op… just do what I do with all JPs in the game.

Skip it.

I would love to see solo missions. I’d love to see more large scale events too.

All this 5 man group stuff is annoying. Weren’t the fractals enough?

Halloween was still the best event so far.

Handin.4032:

This has happened a few times…I’m sure it’s only a few individuals who are doing the exploiting, but here is my plea: If you see someone on your own server exploiting, please PLEASE report them. Don’t take their portals taking you into keeps freely, don’t support them. The moment WvW becomes an exploit-fest, is the moment it starts to die. Just report them. There have been reports of all servers doing it, so lets just stop it by everyone not supporting it.

This ^

Well said

I for one am very happy you can’t play these with friends. Pre mades would ruin the even for people who don’t have one.

It’s still a multi player game. You’re still teamed with other players. There’s no reason you need to do this with your friend.

sounds cool!!!!

That was impressive!

I agree with Beefcake.

3 is actually a good number, because in theory, 2nd and 3rd SHOULD be teaming up against 1st. That’s really the only way to make a balanced match up when servers are unbalanced population wise.

Sadly though it isn’t working here, with1st and 3rd teaming up against 2nd more often than not.

With that said, SOMETHING needs to be done, as the current set up is not working to create balanced fights.

I would suggest making 1st place more important in some way so that people activaly want it. As it stands many players don’t seem to care about getting first, since there’s really no point to it.

You would basically need a lot more PvE elements in the WvW area to get more open world PvP feeling. I’d personally rather they fix the broken Server vs Server issues than work on making sure random 1v1 is supported in what is supposed to be large scale war.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Be proud in your defense! We havent known FA to be the best at defending, but you’ve proven to me time and again that guys are more than capable of holding and pushing off an attack.

Who is defending in FA right now? And how many TC players are in FA borders?

Because if the TC zerg is as big as the one running all over CD, I’m certain those FA defenders deserve high praise. I’ve been in CD trying to 5 on 20 for the last couple hours, and finally gave up out of sheer frustration.

Not feeling a lot of CD pride right now.

Arcadio.6875:

No guild is required by the game to be a part of the server’s community and abide by the rules set out by its players. Organization simply has nothing to do with this.

You can be organized without requiring people to listen to you. It’s more about mutual respect for your own server that major guilds would actually read the chat and hold off attacking when asked by team mates.

And AGAIN… I’m not talking about just this event either.

CobaltSixty.1542:

uhohhotdog.3598:

Diehard.1432:

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

I think it’s a little late for NA coverage. It’s midnight Pacific time. Only people playing now in NA are swing shift workers and some college kids.

And people who are FROTHING WITH RAGE!!!

And a giant TC zerg.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Raincrow.1840:

Arcadio.6875:

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

Organization means absolutely nothing when there is literally nothing you can do to force someone to do/not do something.

You’re missing the point. You have entire guilds on your server that don’t care about the rest of you, and again, I’m not JUST talking about this event, but rather the entire week and the short sighted tactical choices your server has made daily.

Every server has it’s bad apples, but the ones in your server are leading things.

Arcadio.6875:

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

Arcadio.6875:

We can’t control the actions of those guilds.

Wasn’t that my point?

Arcadio.6875:

Don’t try to justify that fact that some posters have tried to vilify an entire server based on the actions of a few.

Actually my opinion of FA is based more on your actions over the week than on this forum. Your server basically ruined any chance either CD or FA had of making a go at TC, because of horrible tactics by a large number of your players from day 1.

The poor choice to attack people just trying to have a little RP fun is simply the most obvious example.

uhohhotdog.3598:

Yes there is an easy answer. Make a dynamic population cap that covers all the maps. You take the server with the lowest wvw population in total add lets say 40, then divide that by 4, and that’s your population cap for each map. If it creates huge queues on the more populated server then they can just deal with it or move to a less populated server. The current system is only encouraging people to move to more populated servers.

This.

I’d also support the teaming of two servers as one WvW team, in order to try and keep the population as high as possible…. anything really, servers vastly outnumbering their opponent needs to be fixed.

Honestly the whole event thing has run it’s corse.

FA proved they’re not organized enough to keep their own players in line, and people from FA should stop trying to defend their actions, TC proved they have enough people to reduce both servers to practically 0 points at the same time and belong in tier 2, and CD proved that when the going gets tough we all log out.

All in all looks like we proved once and for all that a broken WvW game is broken.

Well done peeps!

At this point I’m starting to think TC belongs in Tier 2 for sure.

MrLT.6028:

Who agreed, I know my guild didn’t. And I am sure others didn’t. A handful agreed to somethign the vast majority did not. Oh well.

The fact that your server can’t get it together enough to take part in an event like this isn’t something to come to the forums and brag about.

It’s kinda like a small version of the entire week in which FA showed a total inability to understand why 2nd and 3rd focusing against 1st would have worked to benifit both servers. You guys are just too short sighted.

As a CD player, I just want to give my utmost respect to those who took part in the Yak event, regardless of the server you play on.

Hekatombaion.4320:

Despite the noncooperation of a lot of FA people that-don’t-read-the-forums and/or hate-yaks a very very reduced yak parade did safely get the yak through. The yak will no doubt suffer from depression due to missing the fireworks but maybe an artificer can whip up some medication to help it cope.

That’s awesome!

killer.8235:

Arkard.3970:

Of course, it’s FA that ruins the Dolyak walk. Hope you guys are ready for the repercussions.

I was not there and do not know much about this, but i hope you guys know that VERY few people actual read the forums…

Not much of an excuse. It’s not like they can’t be informed through map chat.

Smoke.8910:

Just because the match is over, it doesn’t mean there isn’t fun to be had.

That’s nice, except that the match isn’t over. Well, maybe if you’re TC, but the battle for 2nd is very close.

Sadly, the really bad strategy used by both CD and especially by FA may have put the choice as to who finishes where in TC’s hands.

Vagrant.1094:

This match is over. It’s not going to matter. ^^

That’s nonsense.

If the match is over then why are both TC and FA pushing so hard in CD’s borders right now?

This Yak walk is a good idea……. but if CD’s borders are Green / Red during it, I don’t see us taking time out of the game to stroll around holding hands while points tic away. Same goes for any of the 3 servers…. What if CD shows up and zergs FA’s borders just before this event…. Is FA expected to stop fighting and join the parade while CD gains points on them?

I really hope the Yak Walk event works out… but if it impacts the score in some way it’s not really fair.

PS. Everyone is saying it’s at 8…. but what day? Is it tonight?

The death count is meaningless and shouldn’t be taken into consideration at all.

Con: Small groups would become easy targets and no one would be able to leave the zerg.

phaneo.4597:

To be honest, I’ve been laughed at a lot as soon as someone kills me, from both servers in fact. Earlier I used to bow to corpses regardless of the server, still I’ve been seeing lots of laugh or dance emotes. So I am making sure to laugh at anyone that dies defending something.

Thinking like this is just going to make it worse. I hate the laugh emotes, but it really just makes the person doing it, and the server look bad.

If somone laughs at you, just move on, don’t start laughing at other people. That leads to a whole bunch of people doing childish emotes to spite each other, when it’s really uncalled for.

To anyone complaining about TC outnumbering you…. don’t blame TC, blame your server’s failed strategy in which 2nd and 3rd place attack each other instead of focusing on 1st place.

This allows TC to place it’s forces where ever they want, while the two of us play 2v1 defense and pretend what we do matters.

I really have no clue why they can’t give at least 15 minutes warning on this.

Crazy.

Pretty sure the vast majority of CD players will be doing Winter’s day too. Seems we’re the unofficial PvE sever after all.

In fact it’s likely that all servers will be doing Winter’s day stuff for the most part.

All WvW rewards should be raised, especially defensive ones.

Like I said in the last thread…. I’m having a great time this week!

Go CD!!

Dolores.5471:

You stole my “Magooooooooma”!!

LoL… it was too good to pass up!

I like Tier 3!

Last week Magooooma accused me of “no lifeing the forums” ….. but this week it moves too fast for me to keep up.

I think TC is an awesome server to go up against. They are much improved from when CD fought them last time, and getting better each day. Like someone else mentioned, as an RP server, they’ll likely get even stronger after the winter’s day event.

CD has been growing and getting stronger since our drop to tier 4. KH guild has really helped turn things around for us, and I’m proud of the way we’ve taken the fight to TC as much as we can. 2nd place is pretty good considering we were labeled as a “mindless zerg server” with no skill by the jealous Magooomas.

FA is a great server, reminds me of Yaks bend. Kinda crazy and unpredictable. Too bad they don’t seem organized enough to hold to an alliance that could really benefit both 2nd and 3rd place. Very skilled on the battle field though!

All in all I’m really happy CD was able to move back up to this tier. FA and TC are much more classy and challenging servers to be up against then the people in tier 4.