Guild Wars 2

dom.2748:

Rashagar.8349:

dom.2748:

Rashagar.8349:

dom.2748:

Serophous.9085:

hildegain.2106:

Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.

9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.

Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.

9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.

Works for me

It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.

“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?

@OP, you have my absolute support.

No, its not a problem because it is only a problem for the very small minority.

So was marriage inequality. =P

Seera.5916:

Rashagar.8349:

dom.2748:

Serophous.9085:

hildegain.2106:

Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.

9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.

Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.

9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.

Works for me

It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.

“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?

@OP, you have my absolute support.

No one is saying that it doesn’t happen.

Just that it doesn’t happen as often as some people like to make it out to be.

It was literally called “inventing problems” in the post I quoted =P

I’ll save you the trouble of quoting me again. You’re inventing problems. It is a non-issue that less than 1% of the population has ever dealt with. If you’re actually having this issue all the time then the common denominator is you.

Ok, I’m trying, with the utmost respect, to broaden your view point a bit.

If it is a problem for me, and for the OP, and for everyone else who posts here saying it’s a problem, how is saying that we’re making it up, that our experiences don’t matter, that it isn’t really a problem because it hasn’t affected the (entirely subjective) sample size of players who have specifically told you they don’t have this problem, in ANY WAY a helpful, insightful, or empathic comment?

dom.2748:

Rashagar.8349:

dom.2748:

Serophous.9085:

hildegain.2106:

Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.

9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.

Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.

9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.

Works for me

It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.

“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?

@OP, you have my absolute support.

No, its not a problem because it is only a problem for the very small minority.

So was marriage inequality. =P

Seera.5916:

Rashagar.8349:

dom.2748:

Serophous.9085:

hildegain.2106:

Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.

9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.

Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.

9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.

Works for me

It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.

“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?

@OP, you have my absolute support.

No one is saying that it doesn’t happen.

Just that it doesn’t happen as often as some people like to make it out to be.

It was literally called “inventing problems” in the post I quoted =P

DevilLordLaser.8619:

Now, granted – the Staff AA does end in a whirl finisher, so in the occasion that you’re playing with a Camp Firemen Elementalist and can guarantee that you’ll be standing in a fire field 100% of the time, your Fiery Bolts help mitigate the damage woes. Do pardon me if I don’t see that as being a realistic expectation to have of your class, though.

It’s AA chain ends in a whirl finisher? How is that not amazing?

Maybe I’m just easily impressed but that’s really good!

dom.2748:

Serophous.9085:

hildegain.2106:

Mr Glass. I’ve been there. A lot. My guild and I used to post LFGs looking for 1-2 more people and we’d always say that we want a complete, non exploitative run and that we’re not zerker meta players.

9/10 times we get the zerkers join our party, demand that we skip, threaten to report us and try to kick people from the group we started.

Yeah… This is pretty much what the “meta mentality” is.

9/10 I make a LFG inviting all and I never have threats like that and we go at a normal steady pace.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I have the same problems as the OP. It is why I say that the whole “just make your own LFG” argument is a lie. It just plain doesn’t work.

Works for me

It works for everyone. This is just more people trying to make a problem out of a non-problem. It is a big issue on this game. People make stuff up to invent a problem to “fix”.

“It’s not a problem for me or this other person I was talking to therefore it can’t be a problem for anyone”? Really?

@OP, you have my absolute support.

Yeah, I’m one of the people that considers it an… unsavoury practice that promotes an atmosphere in the game that is quite unwelcoming.

The “tips” method mentioned above sounds like a much more palatable compromise to me. That way rather than demanding that your time is worth a certain amount you’re allowing people to put a value on the help you’re offering, and that value can be based on your performance after the fact rather than demanded up front for a possibly unsatisfactory service. I’d also like to believe that in the long-term you’d make more money from being magnanimous and open-spirited with your time than from being (to my perception) kind of miserly.

I’m not saying that I’d report you or necessarily agree with the other guy or how he handled the situation. Depending on my mood I’d probably either laugh and wish you the best of luck before leaving, or possibly if I was in a particularly bad mood, block you to make the LFG experience more enjoyable for myself.

*I’m taking “wrong” to mean morally objectionable, since you already have your answer for against the terms of service.

To be honest there’s probably a cultural element to it. I’m told that in some countries if your housemate came in and said “I’ve lost my house keys”, helping them look for them would be considered going over the top.

(No offence was meant by any of this post, I’m sorry if it comes across in a tone that wasn’t intended)

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Behellagh.1468:

It’s not that there are only five in the world, just five for sale. People who have the skin sitting in the bank understands that nobody, well seller, wins if a price war erupts on an item that haven’t seen any way to get more of in nearly 3 years. And whoever holds onto the last one wins.

And for the Ghastly Shield, I count 8 sales in the last month not counting those that went to a high bidder and 3 for the Greatsaw.

Same thing is true with ticket skins and exclusive dyes although they take a hit more frequently with items returning to the Gem Shop or ticket exchanger.

Why is it none of you can view these for what they are? High end collectibles… limited time items of limited availability in a supply and demand market… what’s confusing?

What’s confusing is the idea that increasing the supply is somehow a bad thing for EVERYONE involved.

It isn’t. It might be considered a bad thing by a very few. But realistically, if an item hasn’t sold in 3 years, the people sitting on those skins aren’t in any need of the gold those items represent, and they can either cut their losses and accept that their gamble didn’t pay off (because it is and should be a gamble), or wait another 3 years for the cost of those items to return to the ludicrous pipe dream levels they believe they should be at. Since patience almost certainly comes easily to them.

Other people also getting nice things doesn’t actually affect you in any way besides ego.

Now, it would be different if it actually WAS like luxury cars, and they could be sold on again after use, but that analogy isn’t quite accurate to the reality of the situation.

ScribeTheMad.7614:

And they absolutely don’t need 1200 range.

What I’d like to see is more unique specializations, for thief something not focused on dodging or stealth (but then again, those are so core to the class how far from that can you go without simply being a different class?)

Like GS thief
Hammer mesmer
Rifle Ele
Dagger warrior or guardian

Dagger Guardian would be a really interesting take on a Ritualist.

Liewec.2896:

i’m happy aslong as they don’t cave and fully rerelease the 2012 skins.
this one could be the one though…
with HoT coming out all of their attention is on the expansion so they’re definitely going to do a rehash of one of the years,
and people who don’t want to save up and buy the skins have been nagging for anet to destroy the market.

You mean reinvigorate the market? I thought so. =P

I’m not sure how much help you’ll find anything I have to say since the dice trick is all I was about to say and I went about my character gen differently than you have. I started with a name I loved and then created a character look that suited it.

My two sylvari are dark green → teal and dark blue → purple.

I really like your autumn and summer ones.

Keep in mind that there’s always the total makeover kit as an option if you don’t like it or want to change. Which has even more hairstyles/colour options to choose from (because I’m evil >=D )

Azrael.4960:

My favourite event, which was the precursor to a lot of these map wide meta events was the Karka attack on LA. Boy oh boy was that great. The culmination in the attack on South Sun cove was epic. A two hour back and forth battle with hordes of champions and veterans while legions of Karka babies swarmed your feet. Folllowed by a running battle to get to the hive to kill the queen. By Ogden’s hammer was that a mighty fight. I look back on that and feel Tequatl and the Triple Headed Wurm falls somewhat short of that epic fight.

The best part of this for me was that every single karka on my screen was invisible haha!
I only had a vague semblence of an idea of where to aim ground-targeted AoEs thanks to everyone else’s particle effects, and occasionally a forest of downed player symbols would appear (even though I couldn’t see the players themselves) signaling that some enemy had just done something huge (I’m guessing now that they rolled) and I had somehow been lucky enough to survive.
It was a lot of fun.

I think I’m expecting too much from druid and engi elite so ignoring them for now and assuming they’ll be in the lower half of the favourites list (despite loving ranger)
Reaper
Daredevil
Dragon Hunter
Chronomancer
Herald
Tempest
Berserker

When I get back to playing properly (rather than just playing in my head) I really want to try Wilting Strike and Beastly Warden on a murellow.

I don’t care if it’s non-optimal, I just like the idea of taunting into a poison field and doubling up on weakness application.

Besides, I love my adorable rat-bear.

The only two race/gender combinations I’m missing at the moment are human female and asura male. Though I haven’t really thought about if I can find a human female heavy armour look that fits my concept or not, and I agree that asura heavy t3 looks great, I just can’t see revenant suiting an asura.

Well, this sounds like it slots perfectly in with my warrior’s current shtick.
It basically just changes it to a flaming shtick.

If only I can figure out which trait line to drop…

Endless Soul.5178:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Aren.9478:

NeXeD.3042:

No way in hell some of these changes stay.

I don’t know, I think a lot of what Robert said is very reasonable. The chill damage isn’t going to be amazing still. The greatsword will not do more dps to a single target than the dagger, the changes to shouts are necessary to make them viable. I think most, the greater majority, of those changes will stay.

AND IF ANYONE HERE GIVES FEEDBACK ABOUT THE REAPER BEING OP TO ANET NEXT BETA I WILL PERSONALLY CASTRATE THEM -.-

I’ll hold em down for ya

I’ll lock the door and stand lookout.

I’ll swallow the key

Tigaseye.2047:

I hope so (pretty obviously!).

I also noticed the endless mystery cat tonic (or whatever it’s called) has a tiger, so I know they already have the model/colourway.

Bakabaka.6185:

would be cool if rangers get animal transformations instead of new pet (95% of the pets are not being used anyway ) or merging with the pet to transform into something stronger or roots tangle up on you and transform you into one of those big nature creatures(like human elite racial skill transformation)

Should really be a new class for something like that, IMO.

Like the WoW Druid.

A lycanthropic style ranger elite spec with kit-style skills being used as different animal transformation stand ins… drools

This has finally clinched it for me.

I am so looking forward to creating and playing my revenant.

Visually/thematically I’d want pistol or rifle.

I’ve said already that I’d love melee staff but what I really do wish was that there were more one-handed or off-hand options to swap around with, which is why more than anything I’d love dual axes. Even if it would mean like 11 new weapon skills for them to balance… I always found that for thief, weapon variety was sorely needed.

Came here to say I’d quite like an aloe of some kind to go with druid but a mini squad of those tiny raptor things would be adorable!

Tbh as long as there’s any kind of selection of new pets I’ll be happy.

Randulf.7614:

- needs to be full on night. Visibility is non existent. Gameplay would dictate it would have to have some visibility, but not the same as daytime.

- ambient sounds. I’d cut the music and concentrate on the “sounds of the jungle”. screams, shrieks, natural calls and roars, the wind, the fires, the creaking ships etc

- access to areas only at night or day. updrafts only available at night

Its a primal environment, let it play on primal fears

I love all of this. Especially the sounds and updrafts ideas.

Put me down for melee staff please.

Since it’s unlikely that I’ll get dual axes hehe.

MAGpie.7962:

40 Something pages, and still nothing in regards to this from Anet. It’s… disheartening.

I think that this topic has reached 40something pages is the more disheartening bit =P

laokoko.7403:

I think the problem is rewarding healing is like rewarding people to play bad.

I always found this point of view to be rather myopic.

BeckaPL.2670:

There was never not supposed to be any healers or tanks, but it was supposed to be that ANY class could play any role. But exactly this is why we have the mind-numbing DPS meta which the devs are trying to sort out with the expac

+1

@OP, it’s an interesting idea. Not sure it’s the solution we need, but it’s definitely interesting.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Shiki.7148:

EremiteAngel.9765:

Amityel.5324:

Its too OP basically 3 pple focusing necro for 1 min while he was in DS out and DS out…..too OP you should balance it ANET

+1

And again you have proven that you are a troll and nothing else. Looks like I was right after all, ne?

you obviously don’t know sarcasm.

To be fair, there’s nothing particularly obviously sarcastic about “+1”

It’s hard enough to emote sarcasm when using actual words and decent language skills.

That is amazing!

Peakitten.6412:

Thank you for the update, and also thank you for the changes to Quaggans, best part of the day for me and many of my guild

Referencing the most important post in this entire thread (sorry Jon =P )

What change to quaggans?

Thanks for the emergency evac. =)

Happening with me as well. I suppose it’s one way to stop me procrastinating.

Tried alting to a different character and now they’re trapped too.

I imagine it won’t be as nice news for conditionmancers, but I might be wrong in that. It would be a pleasant surprise if I am.

Speaking as an already chill-based power necro, though, I’m beyond excited.

StickerHappy.8052:

Fact: You are over exaggerating, close to whining.

This is the GW2 forums =P

Sebrent.3625:

• Share boons every time you summon a phantasm … so share that Quickness!

I am desperately interested in using this trait. So hard to pick which trait lines to put with it though. I was thinking Chronomancer and Chaos, but I don’t know if one of the more offensively focused trait lines will end up feeling essential to any build.

Saint.5647:

Rashagar.8349:

Genesis.8572:

Let’s put it this way: If the Guardian elite specialization had been ‘inquisitor/avenger/arbiter/paragon’ or just about anything else that has been thrown around , how many apologists of the name ‘dragonhunter’ would have thought that a ‘dragonhunter’ would have been a more apt name and clamoring for that change?

If the guardian elite specialisation had been inquisitor I’d be asking them to remove any overtly religious references. They’ve done a good job of doing that so far, and the specialisation isn’t anything to do with enforcing religious doctrine or rooting out heresy, no matter how close that is to making a pun.

Well, I guess it’s time for you to ask for the removal of religious references. Ironically, the name references exactly what you had an issue with.

JonPeters.5630:

A couple notes on Dragonhunter. We went with this name because we felt it was evocative of the medieval witch hunters. Guardians consider themselves protectors of the innocent. Followers of their faith be it in honor, valor, etc. The origin of the dragonhunter is a more subtle nuanced version of this. Guardians fight for justice and the dragonhunter faction believes justice is the eradication of dragons and their minions.

… I was going to go into detail of what I meant by the word overt (hint: “hunter” is not it) but then I realised that that wouldn’t address the issue here…

Witch hunter =/= Inquisitor

Like, at all.

Honestly I’m very torn. I’m probably going to have to go back to basics and retry every weapon and skill type to see if my idea of fun has changed.

Also, since druids have always been my absolute favourite fantasy archetype, it makes a lot of sense to wait and see what they’re like. A part of me is not looking forward to it though, how am I supposed to narrow down the choice of spec lines to 2+Druid when I can’t even narrow it down to 3 at the moment?

Zergs.9715:

Zergs.9715:

Tomes are awesome concept and should be preserved in some form in the future. They really bring out the castery side of guardians and I think it should be embodied through a whole new spec.

1. pull the tomes from elite slot
2. drop them into utilities for a tome based specialization
3. functionality similar to kits
4. accordingly tone down the effects of skills

It makes sense in my mind at least You already have two in place and only need to come up with four more for a full spec.

Actually scratch that!

Make a new specialization that turns virtues into tomes that you can swap around as kits and tie them to spirit weapons. That way you only need one more to come up with. We already have offensive and healing tome, so the third one could be condi or boon oriented.

I hope this has grabbed dev imagination like it’s grabbed mine.

ronpierce.2760:

This is the poll on it. Has a pretty significant amount of voters (Over 3000, and was shared on several social media sites), and yes, over 50% is negative, with a portion neutral and the “highly positive” is very very low.

Your poll has 3 different flavours of ambivalence on the topic. Those 3 together far outweigh both support and opposition of the name. With that in mind, a name change would be rather silly.

Never mind factoring in the bias towards a negative outcome inherent in the testing methodology used. (eg. the issue of poll visibility for people likely to be “I love it” voters [people with no complaints are less likely to visit the forums and click on the change this name threads], no “somewhat positive but don’t really care” option to balance the “somewhat negative but don’t really care” option, no “reserving judgment until further information is released” option so people who fell into that category would be more likely to just not vote yet, etc.)

Thanks for posting by the way Jon. It’s always nice to hear from devs.

Edit for fairness It was a really good idea starting a poll on it, it’s just that the results aren’t properly indicative of an overall negative trend in the population as a whole, due to a lack of eliminating bias. If anything it just shows that the majority of the population don’t really give a toss.

Genesis.8572:

Let’s put it this way: If the Guardian elite specialization had been ‘inquisitor/avenger/arbiter/paragon’ or just about anything else that has been thrown around , how many apologists of the name ‘dragonhunter’ would have thought that a ‘dragonhunter’ would have been a more apt name and clamoring for that change?

If the guardian elite specialisation had been inquisitor I’d be asking them to remove any overtly religious references. They’ve done a good job of doing that so far, and the specialisation isn’t anything to do with enforcing religious doctrine or rooting out heresy, no matter how close that is to making a pun.
If it had been avenger I’d have rolled my eyes, but thought eh, it’s childish sounding but it’ll do I suppose, must have been an off-day in the office. Kind of generic and a cynical person would claim jumping on a current band wagon.
If it had been arbiter I’d have laughed my kitten off because setting traps doesn’t sound like the kind of thing that should be in the skill set of someone trying to settle disputes between two factions.
If it had been paragon I’d have considered it far too generically similar to guardian to stand out. It doesn’t highlight any of the differences in play style or skill set.

Dragon Hunter may not have it’s true meaning shrouded behind simple access to a dictionary, but it’s functional in conveying the theme and flavour of the specialisation. No other suggestions I’ve seen to date are similarly functional.

Crise.9401:

I like the tomes as a mechanic, however, I also fully support the idea of turning them into signets and bringing tomes back as a separate fleshed out elite specialization at a later date.

This is a win win, regardless of whether you like tomes as they are or not, because as an elite spec tomes can be made into something more than a gimmick while vanilla Guardians can get two powerful skills out of to replace their gimmicky versions in the mean time.

This is how I feel as well. I love the tome skills for how they feel, and I’d consider losing them in their current states as a price I’d be quite willing to pay to have them become a focus of a future elite specialisation.

Arnath.2319:

The overwhelming majority hate the name, the overwhelming majority hate the illogical dragon theme

I doubt the validity of this statement.

There’s a word for this type of phenomenon that I can’t quite remember, but something like confirmation bias or an echo chamber effect or something.

I think it vastly more likely that it’s a minority of the player base kicking up a stink over something inconsequential and suggesting limp flavourless alternatives.

No offence meant to you by the way. I just don’t share your opinion or your taste in names.

You’re not the only one, OP. The name is perfectly fitting.

Just be thankful that some of the people posting alternate name suggestions aren’t devs for this game.

Mr. Shooty Shiny Pants

I think the answer to “why complain?” is that some people think that mostly baseless and entirely subjective criticism somehow makes them cool or smart.

Just wanted to add my voice to some suggestions I’ve seen.

I second making Close to Death or a weaker version of it the Spite grandmaster minor trait. Very elegant solution.
I fully support the people asking for a non-condition-damage grandmaster trait in the curses line.
And those saying that Reaper’s Precision has no place being a master trait by itself, should be removed entirely or rolled into something else like furious demise or vampiric precision or something. Fairly sure someone mentioned moving Terror down to replace it too, which would also get my vote, to make room for the non-condi gm.
I completely agree with One Staff Trait To Rule Them All.
And Blood Magic’s Vampiric, Bloodthirst, and Vampiric Precision should be at most 2 traits, 3 is pushing it.
Can’t really judge Deathly Invigoration until we see it in action. I appreciate what they seem to want to do with it.
However, as a yard stick, it should probably be on par with Warrior shout-heals in some way at least, since they’re both grandmaster traits and necromancers don’t even benefit from the healing it provides. Maybe granting something other than just flat health back, like Vigour for 2-3s to allies or something? I don’t know. Kind of fits the name and the theme. You could always rename it to Vigour Mortis.

I was lamenting the 25s cooldown on Weakening Shroud initially, but now I think I prefer it this way. 6s of weakness is a lot more noticeable than 2s, and if it’s 25s from when you entered death shroud rather than from when you exited it, that could be rather nice for those who like to stay in death shroud longer than a flash.

Still, awkward to keep track of I admit, which would be the main issue for me with the new iteration of it.