Guild Wars 2

Wrong forum, I think, try Players helping Players, if a mod doesn’t move this there anyway.

From personal experience, no. I got between 10 and 30 (in less frequented or empty areas) when I played with this one as well as my own PC (with an FX8150). Might be that it was other components in the system that played a part in this, too, but since GW2 is harder on the CPU than anything else, a 6300 isn’t the best choice. AMD in general, really.

If you can save up a little more money and/or use parts of your old PC (like the harddrive or CD drive, maybe the power supply, I don’t know what you have right now), you might be able to go for an Intel after all. This thread has some suggestions; it’s a year old, so those PCs might be cheaper now than they were then. Some of the parts aren’t available anymore, but I guess there’s plenty of similarly-priced substitutes.

How on earth does a 290 get you a slideshow? oO I run a video card form the stone age and get okay performance at huge events. Not great, but nowhere near a slideshow…

Pandaman.4758:

A thief being unable to wear a ranger’kitten doesn’t make sense unless it’s some weird Cthulhu-esque living armor that has a mind of its own and silently judges people’s life choices.

Okay, that, I would actually love^^
Fine, it’d get annoying faster than that stupid Hoho-Tron backpiece, but I suppose it would be fun for about ten minutes to have your armour “tsk” quietly every time you kill someone from stealth, or complain about making a mess for other people when you hack someone’s head off with your axe…

darkm, from your posts, I assume your problem is not that you can’t dress your toon the way you want, but that other people aren’t dressing their toons the way you want. Seriously? “I want rangers to look different from thieves and that includes other people’s thieves and rangers because my opinion matters most!” is… not a good thing to bring up in your favour. Would that armour have any advantages for your profession? Or would it be purely cosmetic, in that it forces a certain look upon the player, even if that player would like to dress their character in another style? The way you phrase your arguments, it means that you demand to judge what a thief should look like, what a warrior should look like, what a necromancer should look like, and that just doesn’t work. My asura necromancer runs around in white and purple. She looks like a mesmer. You’d probably hate that, since you can’t tell whether she’s a necro or a mesmer without clicking on her, but for me, it’s the way she’d dress if she were real. Same with my human necromancer, who wears dark blues with icy blue/white contrast colours, because that’s what she would wear if she were real. Likewise, I have seen plenty of guardians looking like classic barbarian warriors, and warriors looking like a model guardian. No way to tell if they both have a greatsword equipped, or sword/shield, or any kind of weapon the other class can equip as well. Doesn’t seem to bother most players.
There is no “uniform” for the classes, and that’s a good thing. You claim that all characters look the same, but in reality, there are so many options to mix and match that the actual variety is huge (even though I personally think it’s still nowhere near big enough^^). After about level 10, when people start their stories and collect new armour, very few characters even look similar, let alone the same. Restricting certain armour sets to certain classes would actually limit a player’s options of combining pieces of those sets with others to create a unique look.

It’s hilarious to read this thread, seriously XD It’s as if there are only two possibilities – men have to like rainbows and unicorns, or men can’t like rainbows and unicorns, and since those two are mutually exclusive, this war is going to rage until the sun dies and consumes us aaaalllll…. (insert scary laugh here)

Well. It’s not like there’s this thing like personal taste that can go either way and is not bound to any such silly blanket statement like “Unicorns are girly!”, “Everyone hates joke weapons!” or “Women don’t like bulky armour!”. I mean, how naive of me to think that it’s possible to exists outside such absolutes and form opinions based on what one likes and does not like instead of what one is supposed to like or not like.
And of course, saying this must mean I’m a queer SJW of colour and absolutely hate the white cis patriarchy, because god forbid I’m someone you can’t stuff into a nice and tidy pigeonhole of “people we don’t have to take seriously because they are not majorities”.
I’m rolling my eyes here so hard I’m afraid they’ll get stuck if I keep this up, so I’ll go play on my happy little meadow with unicorns and flaming hellhounds under rainbows that drip bloody doom on us all. Or something.

(Also, if we could get a not-unicorn-y legendary shortbow, that would be really nice. I’m out of ingame projects for now, and my asura ranger just looks silly carrying a glowing horse around on her back all day.)

Dude, do you go around asking for gifts back when you see your friends not using them as frequently as you’d like?

You gave this key to your friend. He registered it to his email address. Like Seera said, the game account is therefore his, no matter who bought the key. And giving something to someone without expecting compensation or the intent to ask for it back is the definition of a gift. If you “gifted” the game as the email said and did not know that, sorry, that’s your problem.
Again, asking for “the account back” is asking to steal from your friend.

That ranger armour form the trailer is norn T2 cultural, so no, that is not profession-specific

I’m totally down with more cultural armour, but even more restrictions seem rather unnecessary. Doesn’t even make sense; cultural is tailored to a race/culture, but what would be profession-specific? Sneakthief, for example, looks thief-y on female and ranger-y on male. Where would you sort it? And don’t even get me started on the gigantic differences between male and female caster armours and robes…
The armour selection is small enough as it is, I don’t want to find a perfect armour for a character and then find it gated by profession. That would suck.

darkm.4839:

If you have a thief and a ranger both, why would you be upset that you can’t have both sets on one character? You might as well demand the ability to use every weapon in the game, too, because it’s nearly the same thing.

Well, it’s both medium armour, which is always the same, while weapons are… well, not the same? That is a flawed comparison. And I’d hate it because I farmed tokens for certain sets so more than one character could use the skin. So I’d have to do it all twice or even more often for a single piece of armour of the same kitten class? No thanks.

Ashen.2907:

jovian.2805:

this topic is hilarious. the dreamer is probably my favorite weapon in the game. if you can’t tolerate some rainbows and flowers here and there, grow up, seriously. it must be sad to be so closeminded as to be personally offended by an item’s existence because it hurts some man-feelings, or something.

To be fair it is quite possible to be grown up, to like rainbows and unicorns, and seriously dislike the bow legendaries for their use of those elements.

I suppose it’s the implication that liking rainbows and unicorns makes you inherently unmanly for some reason that cracks people up^^
I don’t particularly like the Dreamer, either, but that’s a matter of personal taste, not a question of girly vs. manly. I have Kudzu, after all. But a bow shaped like a horse shooting unicorns just… let’s say it doesn’t work for me, whereas by the OP’s definition, it should because I have lady parts. Yay logic

Big Tower.5423:

You should honor the majority, instead of trying to be progressive and stuff. 95% of the community are normal males.

Gotta love those crazy figures without any reliable sources but “Iiiiii am a maaaan, a manly man, and so should you be, except for the occasional woman I can ask for nudes!!!!”

Also, what Olvendred said^^

Only level 35 and already asking for the Golden title?^^

Just keep on playing, like simplesimon said, there’ll be more content to get gold once you level up. Aside from dungeons and world bosses, there’s farming in maps like Dry Top and Silverwastes (lots of champ bags there), or Edge of the Mists (bonus because in EotM, you level up pretty fast if you follow a farm train around).
My personal farming tips would be rich metal veins, preferably iron and platinum. They yield 12-16 (iron) and 10 (platinum) ore respectively, each of which gets you well over one silver on the trading post. They are in fixed locations, and there are maps to find them. For your level, there are a few in Brisban Wildlands, Snowden Drifts, Diessa Plateau and Harathi Hinterlands, off the top of my head. You can find the maps here.
If it’s any consolation, it took me well over a year to get that kitten title I play a lot, but rather casual, I don’t do a lot of farming compared to others, and I managed to build a solid base of several hundred gold to work with, and that’s with my tendency to fall in love with the most expensive weapons and skins^^

Yeah, so is farming the Badges of Honour when you don’t do WvW. Or the karma for the obsidian shards. Or the gold for the precursor if you don’t get a lucky drop.

You know, if you want everything handed to you, I suspect a game with actual progression isn’t for you. Besides, if you want to build more legendaries when the new ones and the precursor collection come out, you can just complete the map now, if you are afraid the 100% will be more work then. That is, if they even add the new zones to the 100%. They didn’t do it with Southsun, Dry Top and Silverwastes, either.

yolo swaggins.2570:

Serophous.9085:

I think i have a better idea to solve all these problems

Step 1: open lfg
Step 2: Select what dungeon or what you are doing for a group
Step 3: In party description, give path/difficulty, and then the words “ALL ARE WELCOMED!”
Step 4: Watch your group fill

That doesn’t solve anything.

Actually, it does solve the “this is zerker only gtfo!!!” problem. I do this, and the group usually fills up pretty quickly. Only once someone joined withou realising it wasn’t a speedrun, and he came along anyway.

That said, converting existing dungeons into actual solo content probably won’t happen, since some simply can’t be done alone (some fractals, CoE (?) where you have to press the right buttons simultaneously etc.). It would require a total redesign, and that’s more effort than it’s worth.
New solo dungeons? Yeah, maybe, but that’s effectively the living story, isn’kitten It can be done alone and with a group. So technically, you already have your solo dungeons, and you get ne ones with every new LS chapter.
Scaling dungeons, or the option to take henchmen instead of people, like in GW1? I don’t know, I guess that might be nice for some, but then again, it might prevent some people from joining guilds altogether (did prevent me in GW1 for the longest time), and I would sincerely regret that.
In the end, open world PvE (and maybe PvP, too) is solo content already, and frankly, in an MMO, that’s plenty. GW2 is geared towards groups in its endgame, and asking for all that to be changed into solo content is essentially asking for a different game.

I don’t think so. It’s against ToS to sell accounts, and while just taking over for someone else without payment and making a fuss might go unnoticed, taking someone’s account info from them against their will via the official support will not happen.
You bought your friend the game and let him create an account with his information, so it’s technically his. My guess is the official answer would be something like the polite version of “deal with it”.

First things first, your CPU isn’t the best one for GW2. I used its predecessor for about a year and had more trouble than was worth it, though it never overheated the way yours seems to. Anyone I asked about replacing it with your model told me to stay away from it, and they were right. Sadly, in this case, I have to advocate for a proper Intel CPU instead of an AMD one if you want optimal results.

That said, it still works, just not great. And you can repeat a brainless task for a thousand times and still make a mistake the thousand and first time you do it. Lots of people have built their own PCs for years, and sometimes, a tiny mistake is made regardless. So maybe swallow your kitten pride and check the thermal paste already. The number of fans you have is plenty, and either you really made a mistake when installing your CPU cooler (it happens, don’t freak out about it), or something in your system is busted. Or you just happen to run a lot of stuff at once, and that’s just too much. The easiest solutions should always be checked first, before punctuationlessly ranting at people on a very specific game forum who never even saw your system.

I don’t think new low-level armour will be craftable (though I could be mistaken). If anything, I believe it will be craftable exotic level 80 armour, crafted with materials from the new zones maybe (which may or may not be accountbound and thus restricted to those who bought HoT), or karma armour like the Orr armours, which would definitely be accountbound and restricted to anyone with HoT. It would actually make karma a little more useful to farm/collect again, since there’s not much to buy with it, once you have all the karma skins you want and don’t need it to buy obsidian shards for a legendary weapon.

Not really, unless you want to join a specific guild for WvW or something, because that’s about the only thing bound to a single server. RPing is also more prominent on some servers, but I don’t remember which were the unofficial RP servers. For focusing on PvP or Pve, it really doesn’t matter. There’s still the server language to remember, but those are all marked accordingly.
Other than that, a server in your region might be prudent to avoid lags.

Huh. That’s a new one oO

Maybe a tonic solves this, at least temporarily, until it gets fixed.

I don’t think that was the question…

I really hope we do get some new armour, maybe some (don’t shoot me^^) sylvari-themed stuff. I looove that style, but the choices are so limited. I mean, it’s a full expansion, there should be at least something. All the GW1 expansions were full of new armour, buyable and craftable.

No idea about the sudden system-crashing, but your spare version won’t do anything but give him a second account. The game client this version will download is still the same one, and if it really is causing the issue, all you’ll have achieved is wasting a serial code.
Just to give you a little warning, wouldn’t want you to waste a code for nothing.

That said, is this only happening with GW2 or other games as well? If it’s just GW2, no idea, but if it keeps happening no matter what he plays, it might be his power supply or video card.

Ingame stealth or literal invisibility, like this fellow?

It’s in your hero panel (H), and then the little star (third from the bottom). You should see your personal story and the living story. Click on the one you want and the activation button should be in the right part of the window.

Have you activated the story/chapter you want to play in the story journal? If not, you need to do so before the green swirly thing shows up again.

I’m sitting here grinning from ear to ear because someone actually brought “political correctness” into this^^ I have yet to understand how it is “politically correct” to find it silly that things are considered inherently manly or girly in the first place

And for the gentlefolk disappointed that this wasn’t a thread about a literal masculine bow… well, if you have Skyrim for PC, there’s a mod for that Yes, I googled it. Yes, there are “exploding male sexual organ arrows”. I don’t even…
Modders, man. Modders.

Lindelle.3718:

Also I have never met another chick gamer with one of these legendaries.

Then I guess I’m the first^^

No matter whether or not Kudzu is “girly” (which is… yeah, let’s not go there…), I reckon the new legendary longbow will have a vastly different design. No point in introducing new legendaries and then making them look like the ones we have now. So chill out, there’s probably gonna be a “guy” version sooner or later.
(I don’t believe we are having this discussion… it’s never the other way around…)

Lots of greatswords do this. It’s less visible if your asura is a little on the taller side (for a shark-bat-creature, anyway). My poor tiny ranger keeps dragging her gs through the dirt.

I guess that depends on how annoying that bug is. If it happens a lot, I suppose it can’t hurt. Stuff that goes the forum way sometimes takes a while to get fixed.

Personally, I love Kudzu and the greatswords the most, because they are juuust the right level of unrealistically epic without drifting too far into the “come on, are you kidding me?!” territory, like Dreamer and that gaudy disco ball. I mean, if you like it, good for you, but personally, that’s just… dear god, no XD

Thing is, I’d really appreciate it if the next generation of legendaries would reverse the current silly – not silly pattern. A kitten mace and a silly sword, I’d be fine with that. Though what to do with the weapons on the middle ground…? Kudzu can easily be justified as “normal”, seeing as we have an entire race of sentient trees (kinda) who could very well make that kind of bow work, literally and lore-wise. But then there’s the rest of Tyria; I currently play Kudzu only on my sylvari ranger and it looks anything but silly on her, but when I preview it on my norn it looks plain ridiculous. Those weapons could go either way, though.

As for the “make them accountbound” question, no. There are people who have all them time in the world to farm the gold and mats, but never get a precursor drop and have to mindlessly grind for one, no skill necessary (yours truly). There are those who get lucky, loot three pres in a row and sell two to buy all the mats for turning #3 into the legendary. There are those who don’t have as much time, but are skilled players nonetheless and buy (cash-buy) a legendary or precursor to save their gaming time for something other than farming. All legit ways to get a legendary weapon, and frankly, these days, the number of “legitimately earned” legendaries is ridiculously high anyway, so a bunch of people buying it for cash doesn’t “diminish” your own any more or less than all the others that are in the game already.
I mean, why does your pride in your legendary depend on how many others have it, anyway? Do you also go sulk in a corner of your new house because soooo many other people have houses, too, and you are the only one who earned it? Frankly, this “my shiny toy isn’t special anymore because everyone has one too and that’s unfaaaaair” attitude is childish beyond belief.

The precursors earned through the scaveneger hunt will be accountbound, anyway, and that’s okay. But I’d still be a little bit disappointed if the legendaries were, too. After all, making one is so much work it can’t be easily exploited, if at all, and it should be up to me whether or not I want to sell something for ingame currency that somebody else wants to buy for ingame currency. If there is real money involved, it has to go directly to Anet, and I’m okay with that.

I don’t think it’s linked to the utility primer. I’ve had this happen on several occasions, in PvE, Heart of the Mists and the Thaumanova Fractal (never in another one, though that might be coincidence), and I’ve seen it happen to others as well. No primers involved. Weapons are still visible sometimes, as are auras and effects, but the character vanishes without a trace until I relog.

I searched the forum (hey, since when does that work again?), but there’s nothing there about this particular bug, unless I just haven’t seen it.

Server: Elona Reach EU
Location: Germany
ISP: Deutsche Telekom
Time: 20GMT (21:00 local time)

Extreme lags and frequent DCs (about every five minutes). The game is virtually unplayable. Loadings screens after login that can last for minutes (they ususally last less than three seconds). This happens almost every night (started a week ago, was less frequent until then, though noticeable), usually starting around 8-ish and lasting until well after midnight, if it stops at all. It’s less noticeable in the afternoon, usually just a skill not activating or a small jump of the characters on the screen. The change to “unplayable” is always sudden. One minute, it works fine, then nothing works at all.

Sometimes, the game doesn’t realise you’re out of combat, especially when you hit or got hit by a mob, but then rushed past it without actually killing it. Killing something usually solves this issue.
Or, since you seem to be a ghost, maybe that’s what tricked the game into thinking you were still in combat.

Tuomir.1830:

The male wardrobe feels rather limited in comparison to the female wardrobe when it comes to flair and boldness.

That’s another odd difference, though this time, it actually works in favour of female characters (if we ignore the weird bikini things). Particularly the light armour sets tend to look very similar on male characters, while the female sets have significant differences. It’s one of the reasons I don’t have a male caster; the male armour options are rather boring. I mean, come on, the Winged armour is literally missing the wings! There’s something that looks like bug’s wings on the back of the skirt, but compared to the gorgeous female design, it just looks sad. Phoenix armour – same thing. Aurora armour, Apprentice armour, even the Heritage armour, they all look so similar, it hardly makes a difference what you wear. Outside of dungeon sets, the options are very limited.

Ashariel, that poll does neither prove nor disprove anything. It’s not representative, and if it were, the difference between “prefers skimpy” and “prefers non-skimpy” is not that big. So yeah, we’re not “just louder”, we just decide to speak up once in a while.

In the end, though, it’s Anets choice, but they also have to deal with the consequences, a.k.a. people not buying the skimpy stuff in the gem store.

Edit: Hm, that sounded way harsher than I meant it. Point is, with a player base as large as GW2’s, a poll with 1.3k votes, unsupervised in the sense that people probably voted more than once for one option, and started by someone who’s not Anet on a 3rd party site, is not the best way to get a definitive impression of the situation. A poll by Anet, here in the forum, only accessible by registered players (and only once per person), that would be much more informative (and yeah, regardless of the outcome, I’d accept that. I’m not an idiot, I just don’t put much trust in this kind of intenet survey).

Malediktus.9250:

Rezzet.3614:

I Demand Crossdressing to be allowed

O tempora, o mores.

I dont think that would be appropirate for a PEGI 12 game at all.

Wait, what? Why? oO

Tachenon.5270:

Forget Conan and that stuffy old Hyborian Age. Barsoom is where it’s at! Note: not the dreadful movie version.

As always, the good stuff is hard to find here, and don’t get me started about nonexistent translations T_T
*angry Monty Python voice* Globalisation? What has globalisation ever done for us?!

Ohoni:
“It’s her signature look though. If she weren’t wearing it, then she would just be some random red-head, visually speaking. Eir at least has the tattoos.”

So you’re saying that, for a female charatcer to be recognisable as Red Sonja, she MUST wear a chainmal bikini? Which basically means that there is absolutely nothing else that defines this character? Are you for real?
Besides, Sonja started out with a chainmal shirt. The bikini came later.

“The sites you linked to are jokes, there’s really nothing that can be said to “contradict” nonsense.”
And NOW I’m really, truly done with you. Dismissing an argument or proof as a joke because you really don’t have anything to support your contradicting opinion is hilariously sad. That does not make you or your arguments look good. Apart from that, you don’t have to explicitly and individually contradict my claims to show me evidence to support your own. You can perfectly well show me examples without me having to “go first”. Which is what I did. But wait, those sites are jokes, I forgot.
Seriously, bite me. I’m all for open discussions, but you are trying to drag me down to a level that makes this whole thing look ridiculous, and that is exactly what enables people like you to go “Hey, look at those idiots, all unscientific and stuff, nobody can take them seriously!”. And that doesn’t help anyone.

I wish you a good day and continued fun with this awesome game, but I will as of now stop talking to you.

Omar Aschi Popp.7496:

I am laughing at the people(woman) here talking about being experts in bodybuilding, much less bodies.

Y’all smell of horrible insecurity. And by “y’all” I really mean like 3 people.
Fantasyworldsgonnafantasy.

Also to reiterate my position; skimpy armor on anything is lamekittenkitten.
Get a kittening life.
Go look at porn.
Keep your smut/twilight/50shades fantasies out of my videogames.

Funny how you are the one throwing obsceneties around, but I’M the one who’s insecure (I assume by “woman” you mean me, since I’m the one with the obviously female nickname?).
I never said I was an expert in bodybuilding, but I do know human biology. Discussions in an environment like this tend to grossly simplify things, so I usually tend to refer to extremes as well. Maybe I should have mentioned that neforehand. Whatever.
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Leo G: “most feminists tend to IGNORE the fact females ARE portrayed as heroic, powerful, dominating, villainous, cruel, potent, exceptional”
The problem is that a lot of these women, while sometimes great characters, and sometimes horrible ones, are depicted as overly sexual. Flaunting your boobs and posing for maximum visibility of your butt all the time is not the norm for women, nor should it be. It certainly isn’t for men. The characters are, more often than not, not the problem. It’s artists who use old tropes and cliches to dress them up, thus reinforcing stereotypes like, for example, “sexually independent women are evil, modest ones are good and pure”. That’s disgusting, and not fit for a modern, equal world. Red Sonja (since she’s in this already) kicks butt. She’s awesome in a bunch of ways. But she wears something no woman in her right mind would ever wear into battle. Have you ever tried wearing a chainmail bikini? Those things are uncomfortable as hell, and not something you’d pick to go fight things.
That in itself wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s so kitten prevalent, and other options are so scarce, that is what sucks. Not the bikini itself, but the frequency in which it is used, even when it makes no kitten sense, juts to have a woman in a bikini.

As for me interpreting and projecting, words have meanings and connotations, especially in charged discussions like this. If we go by grammar, your use of “nonsense” referred to “powerful and heroic”, which in turn referred to “women”. That is an unfortunate choice of words if that’s not what you meant. But how am I supposed to know that?
I did also never refer to powerful and heroic being dude-exclusive. They are just mostly dude-exclusive in forms that have nothing sexual attached. Female villains more often that not have their sex appealn dialed up to 11. Female heroes not quite as often, but still often enough. That is the difference that irritates me and countless others.

I linked two of the biggest collections of examples for negative artistic portrayals of female characters there are (and I assume you are familiar with Anita Sarkeesian, obnoxious as she may be?). I have received no examples of anything that contradicts these. If male characters get dressed up sexy, victimised and whatnot af often as female characters, where are those portrayals? I’m really curious if anyone can provide me with a pool of examples for male ridiculousness as big as BikiniArmorBattleDamage and Eschergirls.

“I’ll tell you now that it [shirtless female barbarian] would be used by men to have visible boobs on their female characters and be ogled by males and females would decry the effort to have barbaric equality among males and females.”
I’d wager they wouldn’t. Do you have any idea how awesome it would be for a game to have this, without making a big deal out of it? Those who cry loudest are usually not representative (just like I hope the nitwits wailing on about being hit on by a guy in DA2 are not representative of the general male gamer pouplation). The goal of feminism in video game culture is not “stuff that offends no woman ever”, it’s “stuff that treats everyone the same, regardless of their sex/gender”. Of course someone would be offended. There always is someone. But when there are enough options, those someones are free to go look elsewhere. Right now, there aren’t many options, let alone good ones, so if we want to pursue our hobby, we have to put up with it or give up somthing we love. Neither option is very fair.

And okay. So you have boobs. I shall cease to refer to them as manboobs, and remember this for the future. And no, this is not sarcasm. Honest to god, I’m serious. Why would I not be? Boobs are cool.

DonQuack, I think we are talking about different definitions of “bodybuilding”. I was assuming the extreme, something that is achieved via very specific exercise and a very specific diet.
That picture of Conan isn’t something I’d file under “bodybuilder”, at least not the stereotypical kind. Also, those are at least B-cups^^

Besides, what a man has packed onto his chest isn’t that different from what a woman has. Biologically, we start out the same, and that doesn’t change too much. A woman’s breast are a combination of muscle tissue and fat, the latter of which is specific to women, I give you that. But overall, when talking about boobs, we can safely include men. Especially when talking about the very buff ones, who do have more muscle there, thus forming the infamous “kitten”. Those aren’t exclusive to large men. The exact makeup of those manboobs doesn’t really matter, the form is there. Which is what my comments were mostly directed at. If I can’t show my naked chest in public, neither can a man, because he’s got basically the same business going on, it just looks a bit different. Likewise, if a Conan character can run around shirtless, a Conina character can, too.

Edit: Wait, I can say “boobs” here safely, but the short version of manboob isn’t allowed? oO

BobbyT.7192:

Red Queen.7915:

Dude, you are completely igoring the second half of both the “women shopping men’s clothes” and the “Red Sonja’s boobs-and-butt shots” argument. That is taking the first hlaves of those statements out of context.

And I do read better comics. I just don’t find many of those. Which is the problem.
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kitten, I swore I was done arguing with this guy -.-

But doesn’t both those arguments come down to “go where the money is”?

So you’re saying, because I tend to avoid buying stuff that feeds into the old tropes of bikini armour and damsels in distress, but instead choose to wait for something that doesn’t demean a fundamental part of my identity, I have no money?

Besides, “Sex sells” is a myth. Except when you’re selling sex. There’s a rather recent study that shows that when people – and that includes heterosexual men – watch commercials loaded with sexual imagery, they tend to remember that imagery, but not the product the commercial was for, and there are countless articles coming to that exact same conclusion. If you are selling something sexual, by all means, go for the sex. If you are trying to sell me a car, don’t drape a naked person over it. If you are trying to sell me food, don’t put it on someone’s naked butt. That is unsanitary.

Dude, you are completely igoring the second half of both the “women shopping men’s clothes” and the “Red Sonja’s boobs-and-butt shots” argument. That is taking the first hlaves of those statements out of context.

And I do read better comics. I just don’t find many of those. Which is the problem.
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kitten, I swore I was done arguing with this guy -.-

DonQuack.9025:

Red Queen.7915:

And those who would dismiss a woman in that situation because her boobs are out would be the first to die a gruesome death.

I always find these conversions funny. A female barbarian who looked like conan would have practically no boobs and look a lot like him. Features would be more gaunt. The training would eat the vast majority of fat in the breast. See actual female body builders. A lot of them only wear the slightest mention of a top to cover up nipples.

~ person who you used attend body building and strength contests

What people tend to think of is a woman who skirts the line between full blown muscle hulk and woman. That is not Conan or a barbarian.

That being said I would love it if my female chars could look like actual female bodybuilder/ strength trainers. screw clothes.

That body type is rather extreme, though. The “average warrior” would look muscly, but not Arnold-Schwarzenegger-as-Mr-Universe muscly, simply because they wouldn’t have the time to train for this body type. Yes, we have the norn, who look similar, but they are the exception in Tyria. And only the dudes, come to think of it…
Point is, real-life bodybuilders are not representative of the body type of fantasy warriors, let alone real historical warriors. There would be boobs, in some shape and form. It would just so happen that the male barbarian could appear to have them, too. Precisely because of the msucle tissue located there, and depending on the kind of training and the specific person, manboobs would form. So technically, all classic fantasy barbarians are running around with their boobs exposed. Conan included. So give him a bikini top, he’s not decent^^

Ah, I see Ohoni is cherry picking parts of my arguments out of context again. Lovely.
FYI, using her sexuality as a means of seduction to avoid a full-blown fight is NOT the same thing as getting into an actual fight and trying to be sexy in that fight. You, once again, fail to see the point.
Oh, and Sif is wearing a boobplate that could kill her in an actual fight. Not the best example. If (the fictional, dressed-by-someone-else) character Sif had to choose, I bet she would not ever choose a boob-shaped breastplate.

Leo G, you missed my point.
First, when I say “power fantasy” vs. “sexual fantasy”, I’m referring to the fact that usually the male characters get dressed for the former, the female characters for the latter – by the artist. That is the point. I linked a reference picture for a Red Sonja who looks equal in every way to Conan, clothing-wise and regarding the overall atmosphere of the picture. The one on the left is a sexual fantasy, think Conan wiggling his butt toward the “camera” and flexing his muscles flirtatously (which I’ve never seen outside of fanart; the Sonja picture migth be exaggerated, but it is a sadly accurate representation of her, style-wise. There are so kitten many boob-and-butt shots of her while in combat, it’s depressing). The one on the right is what Conan would look like if he were a woman. THAT is the difference. The left one is the one catering to a male reader who wants to ogle the female character (if those readers exist in significant numbers is debatable, but the industry seems to think that they do, and the male readership does very little to contradict this notion), the right one is catering to a woman who wants her heroine to be powerful and strong. Yet I rarely ever see women like that in my comics. As for your “women do not want to dress like men” remark: The women I know beg to differ. I’m certainly not the only one shopping regularly in the men’s department.that is not representative, but neither is your unsupported claim, so let’s call it quits on that one, shall we?
Second, Thor and Black Widow. My point is not that Thor fighting sexy is okay and Black Widow fighting sexy is not. If they were both fighting in a way that aims to be visually pleasing in that regard, I’d be totally okay with that. Thing is, Thor does not fight sexy. He fights to win. Black Widow poses frequently on-screen in a way that gives the audience a nice view of her cleavage and/or backside. THAT is the problem. If she were fighting to win, we wouldn’t even see her – she is a trained assassin, after all. But when we see her, when she has no choice, there are always several shots that aim to show off her… personal advantages. Thor gets ONE of those shots in each of his own films, and both of these are out of any sort of combat. This is the difference. Nothing more, nothing less.
Oh, and by the by, calling a powerful and heroic woman “nonsense”? Not a smart thing to say in this particular discussion.

And your other post?
“Will she put a shirt on while she waits outside a dungeon for her party to get started? Because she probably wouldn’t seem quite as scary at that point.”
Well, neither would Conan while he’s sitting on his butt waiting for the fighting to start. Should he put on a shirt, too? I mean, they both should, actually, because it can get quite chilly up in Frostgorge Sound when you are just sitting around, but I have this supsicion you are referring to her boobs being out. So are his. Depending on how much he works out, his might be bigger than hers. Your point?
A warrior should look scariest in battle. I’d say that any barbarian coming home to their family, cuddling their kids and relaxing in their backyard looks a lot less scary than the same person, male or female, on a battlefield covered in blood and screaming at you while they prepare to chop your head off. And those who would dismiss a woman in that situation because her boobs are out would be the first to die a gruesome death.
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DigitalKirin: Grapesmuggler? oO Now that’s a new one.

If crossdressing were made possible, that would pretty much solve most of the problems. Butt-kicking, sexy, humble, tomboy, Frank N. Furter… oh the possibilities…

Alas, ‘tis only a dream, for the resources are not available…
Kidding, but I’m guessing that converting every single piece of armour twice (male skin for females, female skin for males) would eat up so much time and money it wouldn’t be worth the effort.

Unless they are making GW2 R-rated, I’m afraid that’s not gonna happen^^

Truth be told, I’d love to put a female guardian or warrior in Conan-esque attire, boobs out and all, as long as the “armour” emphasises the bad-derierre-ery (I really, really hate this filter…) and not the sexy. I mean, a huge, truly terrifying barbarian norn, running at you half naked and swinging a giant axe in your direction? Where do I sign up for this?
(If anyone posts a link to Age of Conan now, I will swing an axe in your general direction. That game is an abomination and shall not be spoken of!)

calyx.9086:

Malediktus.9250:

Skimpy armors need to be abolished. Noone in their right mind would fight with skimpy armor. Especially not heavy armor.

This argument is tired and stupid. No one fights with magic either.

You’d think that especially in a world that adds “magic” to the list of Things That Can Kill You people would choose reasonable attire over something that makes them look spectacular – when they get ripped apart by dragon minions. “Magic” and “unreasonable armour” do not operate on the same level of unrealistic.
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“Charr. Masquerade leggings. Dyeable undies. "
Oh my. That looks quite unfortunate indeed.
Incidentally, the Masquerade armour is an awesome example of “not okay” armour. It should be thigh-highs with a bikini monokini for everyone

Prophet.6257:

Red Queen.7915:

“Oh, this thread again.”

Yes. This thread again. As often and as long as it takes for things to get finally equal.

So you also support more male iconics/biconics right?

:)

The problem with this is that GW2 is one of the VERY few games that actually have a primarily female cast of heroes. If there were plenty of games out there with all-female groups, I’d say yeah, gimme a bro for Braham! But since most times, we get an “all male, token female” cast, I’m very happy that GW2 did turn that trope upside-down.
Do I support more diverse male heroes in general? Of course. Do I want the stereotypical “white guy, early 30s, VERY heterosexual” in abundance in this game too? Not really. I mean, if there’s someone new coming along who gets tangled up with DE 2.0, and that someone happens to be male, I’m okay with that. But creating that character just to have one more guy in the group? I’m not okay with that. (Likewise, I don’t like female characters that get thrown in just to have a female character, such characters tend to suck, but since our starting position is way behind to begin with, I’ll be happier with “woman for woman’s sake” than with “man for man’s sake”.)

But think about it this way: If you notice that Destiny’s Edge 2.0 is four women (uhm, three women plus Taimi) and one man, then how rare is a case like that for people to notice? And if it is that rare, the problem lies not with GW2 having so many female heroes, it lies with the rest of the industry having so few. When “Band of Brodudes” is the norm for a video game cast, that is basically ignoring the other half of earth’s population. People who speak out about this and want to change this, and have so for decades. But very little changes. If now Anet comes along, says “we noticed we had only one man for the LS cast, here, have another”, I will be so very disappointed that the men complaining about that for a few months get the change asap, and thousands of women asking for a change for years get laughed at and ridiculed for wanting something that is not a total sausage fest.

Ohoni, I’m done talking to you, you seem to not even want to listen to reason, all you want is impose your worldview and your culture on “your” video game, while simultaneously denying anyone else the same “right”. If you don’t see how messed up that is, I’m afraid you’re a lost cause.
What you also do exceptionally well is twist people’s words around. “I don’t see why you’re so scared by the idea that things are becoming more equal.” I actually laughed out loud at this. This is the polar opposite of what I said. Your problem is that you see the status quo as normal, and any change to that is threatening your perceived “equality”. Just because you feel well represented in media doesn’t mean everyone is. As long as you run around with those blinkers on, I’m done trying to make you see what the problem is. As for your ridiculous accusation… no. Simply no. It’s things like these that make it hard for me to stay serious, because you obviously don’t, or if you are, you are the sort of person I usually aviod like the plague. Anyway, equality is exactly the thing I support. Problem is, there are so many more things catering to the male gaze than there are catering to the female gaze, which you refuse to acknowledge. And then you have the audacity to justify this by saying it empowers women when they show their sexuality, and that means “making things equal”? Holy moly, that’s bold. You do know that women dressing up in real life do so because they want to, but women in fiction do so because the (often male) artist made them? You know, fiction vs. reality?
If by “things getting more equal”, you mean that you actually think men are underpriviliged in that regard and need more catering to, then you clearly live in a fantasy world. Which would also sort of explain your other “reasonable arguments”, like the “women show more skin” one…
Either way, you really need to read up on how things really are, why blogs like BikiniArmorbattleDamage and Eschergirls are not depicting ridiculous exceptions but the rather sad norm, and why changing that norm would not hurt anybody. Until then, I won’kittense my time with you anymore.

Elona… mhmm…
Sadly, I think they will save that particular style for when we actually get to Elona. Maybe. So 2017 I suppose.

Ohoni, you just refuse to listen, do you? You go about this with a “I am happy with the status quo, so you should be happy, too!” mentality. By that logic, we should still happily allow slavery and oppress half the population because we have kittens.
(Edit: Seriously? I can’t even use the technical term for female sexual organs now? The heck?)

Also, are you… did you just actually use the term female gaze in the very same way we use male gaze? You do realise that this doesn’t work? Sure, there are things that cater to the “female gaze”, like Chris Hemsworth running around shirtless in Thor and Thor 2. BUT. Those instances are few and far between. Generally, media serves the male gaze, not both, let alone the female gaze alone. And Thor? Yeah, he isn’t purposely sexy during a fight. Black Widow? Yeah, she is purposely sexy during a fight. Not. The. Same. Thing.
You are literally complaining about me derailing the discussion while turning my point upside down and doing a fair bit of derailing yourself. I didn’t even mention the whole “male gaze” thing. I said there’s a difference between a power fantasy and a sexual fantasy, which you apparently refuse to understand. Did you actually look at any of those links? There is a giant difference between displaying the (usually male) body as a symbol of power and displaying the (usually female) body as a symbol of desire and sexuality.
I have nothing against women (and men) being sexy. But that should not be a priority in a game about fighting dragons.

“The female clothing in Gw2 tends to display a bit more skin because female clothing tends to display a bit more skin, end of story..” That is neither 100% true nor the “end of story”, just because you say so. I’m a jeans-and-t-shirt person. I do not show more skin than my dad, my brother, my neighbours… Neither do 90% of the women I know. And since we are playing THAT game… can I just remind you that there’s plenty of women who cover themselves for religious or cultural reasons? So, on average, there’s about as much female skin exposed on this planet than male skin at any given time. By your logic, GW2 should reflect that. Equal covering for everyone! Realism!

And about the “Art is a reflection of the real world” bit: So… why are you playing a fantasy game, then? Shouldn’t a game like, dunno, Tax Simulator be your cup of tea?

(By the by, this thread has started out as a demand for more skimpy male armour, but by no means did I push it into the general “equal armour for everyone” territory. That happened way before I came along.)

“Oh, this thread again.”

Yes. This thread again. As often and as long as it takes for things to get finally equal.
Now that this is out of the way…

Ohoni, you in particular don’t seem to understand the problem. This isn’t a “No skimpy female armour at all!” campaign. It’s an “equal armour for everyone” thing. As in, everyone should have roughly the same number of options in “skimpy” and “not skimpy”. Nobody wants to take your precious battle thongs away from you completely, we’d just like more non-skimpy options. Hell, my cloth characters have been wearing their fair share of ridiculously skimpy outfits, and I liked them, but it was one hell of a lot harder to find the non-skimpy outfits for them than the sexy ones. kitten armour for my dudes? No problem. kitten armour for my ladies (preferably without boobplate)? Well, there are a few options…
(Edit: Those kittens should read bad…butt. kitten filter.)

It’s not that bad in GW2, I admit that. But this game does have its ridiculous armour sets, and way more female ones than male ones. I did a post on Tumblr about this exact thing a while back, and I actually used GW2 as an example, so here you go, maybe you’ll see what we are talking about.

I also read someone say “skin is skin, male or female”, and that’s just… no. There is a huge difference between power fantasy and sexual fantasy. Usually, men get the former treatment, women the latter. Case in point: Red Sonja. BikiniArmorBattleDamage has a post that illustrates this better than I could explain.

That said, I’d like some more covering armour sets for female characters in the future, particularly for light armour. And maybe a few tiny changes to existing ones, but I guess that’s too much to ask. Like the cutouts in the priory armour. They don’t make a lick of sense, and the robes look pretty identical on male and female characters, but the women HAVE to show some skin, for some reason.

(Also, how is it that some people feel like we want to take something away from them? No. Not at all. We just want something different for a change. But god forbid a game doesn’t cater to your white, male, heterosexual world for once… but that’s opening a whole new can of worms, and to be fair, since GW2 has a character customisation option, it’s rather innocent in that regard. The armour point still stands, though.)

tweeve.3782:

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I also got the 8350 in a gamble thinking that gaming will go going more multi threading in the future. If you look at the console market both cpu’s (PS4 and XB1) are not too much different than the 8350 so I think in the long term the 8350 is fine. Just dont expect massive frame rates with an 8350 in GW2. It can hold its own, but it is not the frame rates of my brother’s and friend’s Intel chips.

I’m curious: when you say “it can hold its own”, exactly what does that mean? I’m facing a similar decison as the OP is, and if “holding its own” means about 30FPS, I’ll probably going for AMD. GW2 isn’t my only game (who would’ve thought…), so buying an Intel for GW2 alone is silly (not to mention stupidly expensive), and if the 8350 can run it better that the 8120 I have now, that’s fine by me. I don’t need 60+FPS, I need a working game.

Actually, English is not so vastly different from most Scandinavian languages, and Finnish isn’t a Scandinavian language proper. Even so, the Cthulhu thing is only partially true; once you figure out what to do, Finnish actually the most logical language I’ve ever seen

The gaming world really needs to work out some sort of etiquette guide^^

I’d say on international megaservers, as on overflows, any kind of language is acceptable, though when I notice most people are speaking English or French instead of German, I switch to that (okay, my French usually consist of fifth-grade-grammar and horrible spelling, but I try, so don’t judge too harshly, k?), simply for convenience.
I make one exception, and that’s events like the wurm on Bloodtide Coast or Tequatl, if they happen on overflows. It’s much easier to coordinate these events in one language, and that happens to be English most of the time. Doesn’t mean I don’t have the urge to slap anyone spamming the chat with “write english morons!!!!!!”…

In PUGs, it’s a matter of majority and/or picking a language everyone at least understands, if communication is required. There were runs where I was the only German in a group of French people, so I resorted to silence and the occasional monosyllabic acknowledgement of something. Worked just fine. Most of the time, the language we all have in common is English, so that’s become my default, if I don’t see solely German servers in my group.

It all comes down to being a bit more open-minded and not rude to people who don’t automatically pick the “right” language for a server or group, if there even is one. Politely telling someone the “main” language is X when they type in Y instead of immediately throwing around insults can go a long way