Guild Wars 2

sure………but id rather they just add more weapon options to the classes from the current crop of available weapons. ideally. 1 new mh/oh/2h per prof.

less dev resources spent, same result (gameplay-wise).

has more to due w/ clipping issues than any conspiracy theory.
capes won’t work as a back item

now……incorporating a cape into into the design of an outfit skin would work perfectly, as you can’t mix and match and create odd clipping issues.

so i’d totally be for a “guild outfit”.

lol….thread died and relegated to page 4 (almost 5)….but the true test comes in a few days.

i still bet we end up w/ more bugs post patch than before (tampering with clone deaths will be a big one). you’ll have your work cut out for ya, frifox.

i can’t dislike the OP more….whine more about a garbage class, who can’t be farther from a need for further fix-nerfs (front spirit).

2+ years ….still waiting,

but congrats.

that time happened long ago. almost every decision is based on PvP, and its almost always to the detriment of PvE/WvW,

they don’t separate them, because it would take more work than they want to do. the excuse that “its difficult for players to grasp that a skill acts differently in different modes” is simply an excuse.

they barely want to balance the current skills (twice a year)….no chance they would want to create twice the work.

hannah mee.7925:

Relshdan.6854:

hannah mee.7925:

I stand by the belief that anything is viable until someone wants to narrow down their criteria.

all you are saying is: " anything is fine, unless you have standards". why argue semantics, when you can apply it to actual play?

No, standards aren’t really applicable to the discussion. Viability doesn’t immediately address situational concerns or context. Any build is viable sans attachment of roaming, PvP or dungeon criteria.

is the point of this thread only to point out that the word viable is being used incorrectly? then yes, to answer your original question, you are being pedantic.

you know what is meant by those using the word incorrectly….so this thread is just a self-indulgent announcement of a linguistic pet peeve.

they don’t want dedicated healers in PvE.

we don’t need absolutely unkillable bunker specs in a capture only-PvP gamemode.

so this will never be fixed?

i’ve been playing consistently since Beta and have not got the achievement.

agree………the fact that you are stuck with it i silly.

should be all 3 of these:
able to be sold on the TP
able to be salvaged
Mystic Forged for the chance of different stats.

good thing a mesmer-ranger P-ing match between whose skill bug is worse, takes up more than half of the thread.

the thread in the bug forum has barely any posts….its kinda remarkable, as this nerf-fix destroys the only reason to take a ranger to 5-man instance (spotter is nice, but the party-wide +7% dmg from FS was the main reason). surprised there is less uproar.

guess not as sexy as kittening about torment on mesmer scepter AA (which math proved was “meh” at best).

dancingmonkey.4902:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Steal – it’s “useless” untraited and “underpowered” when traited.

But it’s my favorite skill.

LMAO, I do not think “under powered” means what you think it means. or you might just not comprehend what the skill is capable of. .

stick to target
poison/weakness
damage/2k heal
initiative
aoe fury/might/swiftness
etc etc etc

indeed… “underpowered”

hannah mee.7925:

I stand by the belief that anything is viable until someone wants to narrow down their criteria.

all you are saying is: " anything is fine, unless you have standards". why argue semantics, when you can apply it to actual play?

if you play w/ a group of strangers, there is a middle-ground between “i’ll play how i want, no matter what” and “meta or kicked”. you should at least adhere to that, if you can.

it’s theoretically the perfect model for me……pay once, and then situation-ally via gem store, or gem to gold in a pinch when i really need it. i have a career/family, so I go through periods i can’t play much. I really hate games w/ pay sub-models…and would never be a customer of one.

but must admit i’m starting to lean toward the GW1 model of simply paying for the new content (expansions)….so that you actually get that level of content.

comparing the new content released over 2 yrs in GW2 to GW1….the lack of real content/features that would have existed in the expansion pack model is staggering…..
Luckily, GW2 started with so much more variety of content…and arguably the most fluid combat system in any MMO, that it hasn’t really bothered me until now.

love dry top….but add some new dungeons…new utility skills…new weapon sets…maybe a new race. PvP needs more than one game mode……WvW really needs some love.
not sure these things can happen in this current model.

pleasant surprise.
anything that further helps theory-craft and bug-detection is a plus in my book.

Vayne.8563:

A lot of people use viable when what they mean to say is not optimal. And to their mindset, if it’s not optimal its’ not viable.

It’s a definite misuse of the word.

this……but there are varying degrees of sub-optimal. being on the high-end of “sub-optimal” is fine for anything but speed clear groups. being on the mid-range of “sub-optimal” might work for Pugs, depending on the class. being on the low end of “sub-optimal” should be reserved for playing solo (or w/ friends who don;t mind), as playing this in a 5-man instance hurts your party, and doing this in a zerg mainly hurts you.

if the downed-state does actually confuse/chase off new players, then Anet is correct dumbing-down every aspect of the game as they have been since launch…….and i refuse to believe that

saalle.4623:

Randulf.7614:

Sakri.7234:

Still no:
- precursor crafting/scavenger hunt
- legendary armor/trinkets
- guild/player housing
- new skills/weapons/races/profs

Most of these things were promised over a year ago. This is why we are so miffed.

They were not promised. Intended, subjected to change perhaps. But never, once promised. It is statements like this which caused the devs to be cautous in their communications to us when words were incorrectly interpreted. Lets not reurn to those days..

Well said.People on this forums start to hear and see things that does not exist.

agree…but it doesn’t change the fact that “highly desired features/content” (like precursor craft/hunts, new game modes in PvP, or guild system expansion/ improvement) have taken a backseat to “who gives a kitten”, “this is horrible”, and “thats nice, but not really needed” features, for well over a year.

which would be fine, if Anet didn’t introduce features/non-LS content/bug-fixes/balance passes/etc. at such a GLACIAL pace.

as for this feature pack:

Love:
TP overhaul is awesome and long overdue. they went above what i expected here, so kudos to Anet.

Like:
1)standard PvP models and pvp exlusive armor (i don’t pvp, but these are pretty cool).
2)commander tag update – could/should have been more comprehensive as there were a ton of gret ideas in that CDI, but account-bound and new colors are a start (but likely all we’ll ever get).

Necessary (But Let’s See If It Works):
1)all the optimization/performance improvements to combat and megaserver
2)Balance Pass

Dislike:
profession-tailored loot (if its hardly noticeable as they claim, why bother? it will be noticeable) salvage mats are not equal….those who will get more cloth (wool, linen, silk) are the winners; the rest lose.

Okay, I Guess:
the rest

overall, it underwhelms me as a vet, but if this makes the experience for new players good enough to retain more of them and extend the life of the game for another 6-8 months, so be it. i can accept that.

even if they acknowledge it was changed unintentionally, it won’t get patched for another 6 months.

same for me…..its the only one i need.
i’ve even purposefully broken all of my armor….and then repaired it.

been playing since beta, so it has nothing to do with repair costs going away.

enraging stealth nerf/bug-fix.

you destroyed any reason for a group to take a ranger.

thanks again.

Nick.6972:

Trading Post, Mini Pets.
How is this supposed to bring bored players back?

its not.
they are gambling that making the game stronger for the necessary new players to keep the game going, is more important now than trying to retain vets or bring back old players.

to be fair….only real content, not QoL changes, are able to bring old players back. they seem to be in no hurry to add things like precsursor hunts, new races, skills, traits, etc.

VergilDeZaniah.3295:

…. I’ve not been thrilled by anything announced.

They do their job, it’s a long-term endeavour, but making a big deal out of this… That’s why I’m disappointed: I was told my experience will be better, and as of now, I’m not sure it’ll change anything.

i think the main problem is the hyperbolic language and prolonged pacing of these “preview blogs”.

you can’t use the word “galore” to represent 2 or 3 things. you really shouldn’t use the term “exciting” to describe an attempt to give megaserver the functionality it was supposed to have when it luanched.

and why space this out over 3 weeks? its absurd to have an entire blog devoted to the cammander tag changes, and then a separate one about a new Wvw ability line and trap, and then yet another separate blog about a wvw tournament….combine them into one.

this feature patch wouldn’t look or “seem” nearly as underwhelming if the info was given over the course of a single week in early august (that way, any reactions to some of these could be responded to).

its as much a perception thing as it is a reality thing.

Vayne.8563:

VergilDeZaniah.3295:

Vol.7601:

VergilDeZaniah.3295:

AT LAST. But still, it’s what should have been expected in the first place, not 2 years later :-/

Should that matter? Anet is in a lose lose situation with comments like that

They don’t fix something, people will complain that it’s not here

They fix something, people will complain that it should’ve been fixed long ago

“We’ll release exciting things for veteran players”… I’ve been defending ANet for months now, so playing the “you’ll swoon before our new features” and releasing something quite basic kinda hurts my feelings.

This isn’t a minor feature it’s a major rework. And you know, a lot of people have asked for this. No one said you’d swoon before our new features anyway, but this is not something quite basic. It’s integral to the game, to crafters, to farmers, and to people just needing to buy stuff.

agree…….while i find it to be an underwhelming/disappointing feature patch based on my interests and compared to the last feature patch….this rework is much appreciated and has been asked for since the game launched (the new search functionality goes even beyond what most were asking for).

this is an insane “nerf-fix”…………..does anyone on Anet check things out before making stealth changes? if forum goers can run through the math to see that a fully traited FS yields about a 1% damage increase…..1 vuln stack!….how can these devs not?

now this is a QoL rework well worth adding. better late than never.

Burning Speed……nice animations, movement feels good….nice utility as an evade/fire field……….will love it even more when blinding ashes becomes an AoE.

sander.5830:

Little nice note Gw2skills is back up!
This way you can actually see my build in the video description (that is kind of really helpful).

don’t know (or care) if it’s an “old cheese build”….as i’m new to ranger in WVW and would like an effective build to complete world mapping.

seems like a well constructed roaming build, and most importantly, it looks really fun/active to play.

www/aesthetics
wolf – knockdown, F2 fear
jungle spider – immobs and poison

pve
river drake – tanky, blast finish that’s easy to predict, F2 that can do massive dmg
jungle stalker-strong single target attacks, F2 that grants 5 might stacks

looks like a really solid build….hope it proves effective. would be great to have a combat role, again.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

What scares me is how the tweaked clone-deaths will actually work.

Since they can be dodged/blinded/ect, does that mean they count as a hit?

Does that mean they’ll proc Retaliation on us? Or counter-attack effects?

…Will clone deaths break stealth!?

you just named the first few guaranteed bugs that will come from Sept 9 patch.
the amount of “workling as intended…for 6 months” bugs in relation to these traits will be staggering.

…and that is why these changes are a bad idea……..it involves anet tweaking clone traits/performance…and that has never worked in the past

which is unfortunate, because its actually fair that clone death effects can be evaded/ blocked/ blinded

reapex.8546:

Dayra.7405:

Relshdan.6854:

probably not worth the developer effort.
…but i do miss the old days of 3-5 manning world bosses during off hours

Me too.

Can still 3 – 5 man Fire Shaman, Ogre, not to mention Dredge, oh and the new Mordrem champion, and more

would even take 50-man world bosses, at least then i’d consistantly get the champ boxes (like pre-megaserver)

right now, its 100+ at all times…every WB event……….the events suck.
thankfully, temples still have times of day where its only about 30-50 doing them.

ranger………LB is actually good now. this makes them….rangers.
add axe buff…revamped beastmastery line…signet changes to make actives effect the ranger as well.

so good…without being OP
can’t wait to get back on my mule ranger…and make her a main

when IE still doesn’t work after the patch….and more clone/phant AI bugs are introduced…….lol

abortion.

Paradox.1380:

Or you know… sell them to an NPC for almost 5 silver?

…or be able to sell them on the TP for more?

if it works as OP says…the biggest problem would be if they lock you out of PS until level 10+………since PS missions are excellent ways to level and get lvl-appropriate gear for new characters.

if you can do the PS during the first lvls, the change doesn’t matter much to most….it just becomes a pacing change.

smart thing to do, whould be to have the PS missions run as they do now until about level 35-40 (when you choose an order)….then create the gaps, because its around that time that you end up doing more farming./world events/ etc. that would pull you out of the PS story groove

probably not worth the developer effort.

…but i do miss the old days of 3-5 manning world bosses during off hours

one of the many joys of megaserver

i’m sure its a programming thing.
they don’t want you to be able to change equipment while in combat (i’d assume to give some sense of gravity to your choices)…..harvesting equipment falling under the same rules is just a matter of not spending resources to fix a minor inconvenience that rarely ever happens.

i’m surprised this bothered you enough to make a thread.

if you could afford to do it, you’d be too smart to do it.

Kaldrys.1978:

Marionette was the best open world group content this game has ever seen. It had the perfect balance of zerg content in the lanes to create a sense of scale while also highlighting individual contribution in the mini-arenas. Compare Marionette to season 2 group content (dry top) and it’s just… ugh. Even most of the other stuff in season 1 (escape from la, battle for la, tower of nightmares, even boss blitz postseason) was way more engaging than dry top.

agree that group events in Dry Top are more in line with standard stuff from the original zones……which makes sense, but is sub-par compared to the later group events of LS1.

that said….i kinda like the focus on semi-challenging solo content LS2 has brought so far. it fills the void between soloing dungeons and regular solo open world play….and greatly improves on the PS missions. It seems this season will be short…so maybe the next goes back top more group-event oriented storytelling.

and even though there is no sign of this LS1 conent coming back anytime soon……..planting the seeds about the content we did love, early, is not a bad idea.

this event was met with the usual MASS WHINING about difficulty and having to rely on others etc etc etc….so an overwhelmingly pro-marionette thread like this is a good thing.

best event in GW2 ever………..it has to come back….some how…some way (guild event). no event felt as rewarding as this when you won. Not surprisingly, that Josh Foreman dev who did SAB had something to do with it…

perfect large scale event……….starts as a non-zerg medium group stage (5 groups of 20-25) to a party-play stage (5 parties of 4-5 players). but everything came down to the 5 party stage…kill your boss with it’s mechanic, and you felt elated….but then nervous that the next group might fail…………….and nothing felt better than being the last lane up, with no more chances, and you pull it out.

MUST COME BACK.

would be great if it wasn’t a bi-yearly balance pass. if they are going to be this timid, they need to move to a patch every 2 months.

decent changes……really happy with RF changes….MI, Glacial heart, spirit bow/sword might be fun to play with.

overall, this would be AWESOME, if it came every 2 months instead of 6.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Update: apparently, in the Chinese version of the game, you don’t get a key until the Level 20 story.

key farm is dead. i don’t care…never did it.
as long as the same number of keys are available as PS rewards (but at higher levels), i’m fine with that.

BL tickets skins go up a little in value….to properly reflect the cost it would take to get them buying keys off the gem store (which hopefully becomes a guaranteed scrap every chest).

Bolthar.7192:

I think with the defeat of Zhaitan, it would be nice to see the risen begin to thin out and Orr begin to heal a bit. That would really make the game feel like it’s living IMO.

and then we lose the only profitable open world zones, that don’t require grinding.
…unless you limit it to straights of devastation/malchor.

messing w/ cursed shore is a no go.

who cares? they already know what they are going to do for the next one.

on the plus side, they chose “Guilds” as their next CDI…..so that may result in good features in subsequent feature packs (a year or 2 from now).

Stephane Lo Presti.7258:

Morsus.5106:

Does this mean that it will affect level 80s?

Yes it will but the change will not be easily noticeable.

then it was obviously time well spent to make this change. /sarcasm

if the “effect” is stronger the lower your level is….then tell us! if you don’t, we can only assume the worst (that this is an ineffectual change and thus a complete waste of time)

love mine (and the scythe, bull skull shoulder, and the bird skull shoulder)
their rarity (and those of most halloween ‘12 skins) is a good thing (so little is actually rare)…..but wouldn’t be surprised to see them back as BL chest/ticket skins in future Mad King festivals.