Guild Wars 2

Saiyan.1704:

Rukia.9860:

Crinn.7864:

Rukia.9860:

If you’ve played any MMO before even GW1 you know conditions are not supposed to burst at all,

If you played any MMO you should know that MMOs should be vertical progression with gear grinds.

wait

Precedent is not a rule. The idea that DoTs can’t burst is not a rule. Anet chose to be innovative rather than shoehorning everything into decades old tropes.

So… using a decade old balanced system is not ok because it’s better to be different for the sake of being different? Nice argument. You should apply for ANet lol.

All I’m saying is condi should have ramp up time, not bomb someone instantly.

The “Trinity” is not a confirmed 100% perfect “balanced system”. It’s just a concept class idea that most mmorpg games use because it’s Easy and everyone knows it.

What he is saying is the trinity system is just a concept idea. GW2’s system is indeed innovative because… how many games can you list who’s mmorpg balance system is just like GW2? Few, if any at all.

The point went way over your head bub.

Has nothing to do with trinity.. we were discussing condition systems until he made a completely unrelated dumb comparison.

bub lol kay grandpa

Losing to condi thief should always be followed by uninstalling or getting good

It is a terrible build and waste of a thief slot, LB don’t mean crap haha he must be getting carried incredibly hard by his duo or queueing at crazy hours… or it’s just evidence of how truly ded gaem we are

#ClownFiesta

^_^

Crinn.7864:

Rukia.9860:

If you’ve played any MMO before even GW1 you know conditions are not supposed to burst at all,

If you played any MMO you should know that MMOs should be vertical progression with gear grinds.

wait

Precedent is not a rule. The idea that DoTs can’t burst is not a rule. Anet chose to be innovative rather than shoehorning everything into decades old tropes.

So… using a decade old balanced system is not ok because it’s better to be different for the sake of being different? Nice argument. You should apply for ANet lol.

All I’m saying is condi should have ramp up time, not bomb someone instantly.

If you’ve played any MMO before even GW1 you know conditions are not supposed to burst at all, they are something that screw you in the long run not kill you in seconds because you didn’t cleanse. Condition should be pressure for enemy team not ridiculously powerful. I wish condi was normalized by pips of health loss like in GW1, that was honestly the perfect design.

I don’t really care cuz the way GW2 is designed but you can’t deny it is cheesy as kitten lol

Only a matter of time before we see the return of heroes from GW1 xD ded gaem

keep the dream alive boys

ESO pvp is garbage even worse than spvp or wvw but their questing is incredible so still worth a play. tbh WoW arenas are really fun and competitive but the random grind for gear kills it for me, if you can get past that you will not regret getting some buddies together and doing 3v3 or rated battlegrounds.

Ramoth.9064:

I don’t know why Arenanet constantly feels the need to reinvent the wheel. They think they are savants of creativity or something

hahaha too true

Do you ever feel

Like a plastic bag

ESPORTS HYPE!!!!!

Just faced him and I’m stuck in gold…

literally ded gaem lul?

I don’t think he’s particularly good, he was duoing with thief (?) cuz he got +1’d a LOT and I never see thieves that actually know how to play , ofc is what I would do too. But my team was so trash … first off I shouldn’t have been teamed up with anyone lower than my rating, and I shouldn’t be against ppl that are higher.

I feel the pains m8 but ded gaem can only carry a team so far until you give up. I will keep the #dream alive! ESPORTS HYPE

Ramoth.9064:

Well, you are the executioner, maybe arenanet thought it sounded kitten enough to go up against a god of pvp

God > Executioner confirmed

I’m not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

Didn’t reporting people in GW1 give you dishonored if the whole team did it? I can’t remember… I think there was a message too that warned you for abusing the system. I could be thinking of WoW.

Very rarely would you have afk in GW though. I think it happened mostly in JQ/FA.

I would buy Colin, but I think his ability would be to woo his opponents with that beautiful smile or hype them to death with train attacks.

hell why not make it 600%

The more you post in this forum the more I think you’re a clever troll.

Playing unranked apparently on a core build as mesmer solo q and you don’t play any other classes lol yeah I would have a terrible w/l ratio as well.

Sind isn’t just a good thief he’s a good guy I’m his #1 fan I hope we get married some day

I guess this generation really does need their safe spaces…

oh well you could put a bubble of water around it or something. It does look ridiculous when it flops after you, I thought it was funny.

Thief assassin elite specialize yes please, bring the beauty of combos back. Lead, off, and dual attack the way they were meant to be.

The cool thing is all of the dual attack skills from GW1 can translate directly to GW2. Life leech, knockdown, condition, daze, raw damage.

You already see a little of this in the new thief specialization but only on utility, we need cool abilities that combo like that on our weapon set.

A little off topic, I was just going to bump the post but then saw the post above me :P

Shadelang.3012:

I JUST HIT A NEW LOW. +1 BABY OH YEAH.

haha that is depressing

Example:

Double thief, great, I ask if the thief is good and get no reply, probably assuming I’m some elitist kitten or whatever. Ask if they can swap, “I have no other pvp character”

Ok. So I swap. Surely if this person exclusively plays thief, must be good, right? lolno

Thief 1v1’s, doesn’t decap, doesn’t +1, tries to team fight, gets downed repeatedly, etc. Probably doesn’t even know the mini map exists. Loves to solo pve on forest while ignoring a point. You know who you filthy mongrels are.

Protip: You should never stop moving as thief, your roll is not to 1v1 or team fight, it is to +1 fights and force rotation while decapping. A ranger sitting on their home point ? Why the kitten would you go 1v1 him, +1 somewhere !!!!

Thief can’t even die in this meta other than to another thief! How are you dying! DISENGAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! I would expect this kind of play in bronze ffs!

/END NERD RAGE

tl;dr I am not swapping my thief out anymore, these scallywags cannot be trusted.

Just sit on your rating

oh wait

Genius system xD

Zietlogik.6208:

In case people have forgotten what an extended team fight while leveraging momentum looks like in high end PvP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFWvdyCk1Uo

To say it puts GW2 pvp to shame is what I would consider the biggest understatement ever.

Every time I see those vids I begin hating ANet all over again for creating this mainstream garbage in comparison.

Look what you threw away… imagine how huge the esport scene would be in GW1 TODAY, hell esport was completely new back then and people went crazy for GvG.

Biggest missed opportunity in the history of gaming for both the devs and the players. Now look at what they have to show, a dead pvp scene. Good job.. at least you made a ton of money tho right

Kaburro.4712:

I’ll just leave this here…

Fail to dodge Headbut, Decapitate, AND wild blow lol

protip don’t depend on blocks when war uses SoM

I don’t think peoples issue with pvp in general has to do with balancing other than the infrequent updates.

The issue is conquest is not friendly to the layman nor is it very fun by itself to play. To compare it to the joy that was GvG in the original series, it’s not even near the same level of fun.

You can’t just throw esports at a game and then it happens, even if you create a balanced mode it still has to be fun and accessible to most players without a high rate of failure because this game does kitten all to teach you how to play.

The game from the start should have included all sorts of fun pvp modes like arenas, GvG, HA, JQ, and FA. Those are what we loved from the original.

A new player isn’t gonna wanna hop into conquest, I mean you will get absolutely demolished repeatedly unless you know what you’re doing. I don’t see this any different to starting battlegrounds in other MMOs once you hit cap and have questing greens on. It just isn’t fair to new players.

Now, it’s not just an issue with new players either. Veterans would appreciate if their ONE mode available that isn’t a complete joke to not suck due to stale metas, lack of content updates, etc.

I personally find my enjoyment from conquest performing my roll well and really showing it to the team, so I don’t really have issues with it. I can definitely see where the boredom and the intimidation come from, though.

I love this games pvp either way no matter what happens because of one simple fact: no grinding for gear. Honestly I would love to do some arenas in WoW but since gear still matters I can’t bring myself to grind that stupid crap every kitten season. (and yes gear does still matter if anyone tries to argue this in Legion)

The same goes for pretty much every other MMO, and the ones that are similar to GW2 have crap combat and mechanics.

I just hope ANet wakes up and understands that they should have first and foremost made a FUN and appealing pvp structure with variety that everyone wants to be a part of, not just the pro’s.

I think the current population of pvp speaks for itself, FYI I think the game has always been fairly balanced (aside from launch lol) but that doesn’t mean that the balance isn’t cancer gameplay.

Any way.. rant over. Just wanted to clear that up xD

Tyrion.9015:

Rukia.9860:

There is a reason GW is unsupported now, they want you in GW2 not the original, they condemn everything about that game.

I bought gw2 when it was released. They got enough from me i think. They are different games and CAN co-exist one as a nice and coloured pve game (with extras) and the other as a competitive pvp focused game (with extras).

We can dream I suppose

There is a reason GW is unsupported now, they want you in GW2 not the original, they condemn everything about that game.

Now ANet can make pvp fun with variety of modes like in GW1 and let your community make the game into esport for you, perhaps we could even get the legendary GvG.

Warrior op lol nice joke , get good

ANet hire this man, pure genius

ANets team of professionals are typing furiously to your email right now to hire you

bluri.2653:

I have not lol, idk whats with these threads zzz

Got sempai to notice me

beatthedown.2651:

So many legends leaving us. At least we have Vingador.

Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need right now.

howbowdat xDDDDDDDDDDDD

Forever remembered, he is with the angels now.

I want gold trim cape from GW1

Rocky.8195:

Metabattle is cookie cutter man my build is already tweaked beyond that.

Yet you play D/P SB lol…

Justfor.6018:

Very interesting ideas.

However, all I want is a decent UI.

A Decent UI

A DECENT UI!!!!!

One I can customize and eliminate the freaking minimap if I feel like, or hide all the in-game spam if I don’t want to see any notification, or one that allows me to make disappear the “OnMouseOver” skill descriptions that hide a huge portion of my screen. A User Interface that let me put the toolbars wherever I want.

That’s all I want…. a decent UI

sniff

That’s it

+1

Also additional toolbar for useable items that help in combat or as utility… it’s insane that this game was released with such items, and no way to hotbar them.. lol are you fing kidding me? It’s almost 2017, yo get with the program…. I can choose some random backwater F2P korean grinder that allows additional hotbars and UI customization, but not in triple A MMO called GW2.

As far as content goes, I don’t really care about anything except for Cantha… the rest is just meh. Pvp all the way until then, unless they actually start using interesting characters from the lore instead of boring dragons that are evil because, well who really knows they’re just evil ok?

buttcape/10

/cry

Tengu would be most likely with least retcon, and most awesome obviously.

It’s ANets fault that they designed races in a way that you can’t race change and stuff, same reason they won’t add new races. Have to make a 1-80 story for it.

It is expansion material, but they’re too busy designing annoying vertical maps with unconventional traveling methods, because ‘different’.

Agree’d. The new costume was almost close to being good, but then I (not surprisingly) saw the buttcape on my character preview and was immediately turned off.

I don’t think I’ll EVER spend money on gem store attire at this point. They simply refuse to take out the buttcapes… kitteng ridiculous.

Burtnik.5218:

Start playing male characters and problem solved. Gtfo female human meta tyvm. Outfit is good, bb.

It is buttcape on female Sylvari too.

Ellie.5913:

Mea.5491:

Djinn.9245:

/signed – no butt capes. And we also have plenty of skirts and MORE than enough trenchcoats!

Yes, it’s time for tight, simple stuff and more pants. Where did all the GW1 designers go?

Where did all the GW1 designers go…bring them back!
And yes plz no more hideous butt capes, they ruin everything -_- It would be cool if we could just cut them off some how even if it meant buying some scissors from the gem store that could remove parts of armor/outfits that we hate.

/agree x9000

Dawdler.8521:

What morbid dev at Anet designed that kitten?!?! Bet its the same guy that places logs and impassable branches on the ground in WvW.

Lol, every time I run into one a pebble or slight elevation and it prevents me from running I just think to myself “what is this, Call of Duty?” it’s so annoying.

OT: Skyhammer isn’t even bad now, it was absolute garbage before the remake.

One thing I would like to see on the jump pads in there is allow me to finish casting my heal skill if I run through one, 99% of the time I do not intend to hit it, and 99% of the time it kills me. Fun Fun.

AP already means nothing in this game since there are exclusive points that no one will ever have access to except for the ppl that grinded them at the time. There is no ‘feats of strength’ achievements with AP removed like in other MMOs.

If they removed AP from this then remove AP from those other now-unobtainable achievements as well (and deal with the crybabies that they lost some AP), or award everyone with that lost amount of AP and from now on use the system MMOs have been using for eons to keep it fair..

The achievement system was garbage from the get go.

I always thought GW2’s cash shop was pretty horrible. It has always been barren.

Less items in there than F2P MMO’s I’ve played, and a lot of the skins are not even permanent. It makes me outright not want to buy anything that isn’t always in there. It seems like an insult to the players intelligence. They think that people will buy something once they take it out for x amount of time, but really it just makes you jaded about it and not want to buy eventually.

I could see alternating items on a month by month basis to make room for other items, but only because GW2 doesn’t even had a filter system for their skins. The reason being there is no need, when you can scroll through every skin in about 2 seconds.

Another reason I see the skins in cash shop pretty bad in GW2 is most of them are full costume. You can’t even wear just one or two pieces of it, you have to don the entire set. Wtf? Yeah cool.. because I wanna look like every one else with the same full set.

I wonder how many skins they have taken out, and left some of the most terrible looking ones in lol.

I learned that you don’t actually have to jump through the updraft if I remember right you can just walk through them and you get lifted up in the air.

It is so hard to determine what mechanic is bugged or not in this fight because there definitely were bugs, but now I don’t know. The bubble that braham makes never once worked for me, so I was forced to use the gliding and the updraft refused to work on the 2nd or 3rd phase.

I hate this fight with a passion, mostly because it took so many attempts, even made me ragequit the game for months, but it’s doable.

Mordremoth does little to no damage at all, even vs my full zerker thief, it is only the mechanics between phases you need to focus on. Not sure why you can’t see the updrafts, they are very clearly visible, maybe a graphics issue on your end but who knows, my eye sight is horrible on top of color blind and I can see them.

Do what I did and use the LFG tool to gather a couple people with you, that way you can suffer the frustration together as a team.

Just another cancer I learn to deal with. they don’t feel OP, just lame, like most cancer in GW2. You can play any class by drooling on the keys. that’s just the way they are designed for the layman, which is why it feels bad to lose to something like that.

Dixie Cougar.2415:

Can we please get a /gg voting function for spvp? Having to wait for hopeless matches and 4v5s to go to the bitter end makes the game mode less fun without adding any benefit. If 3 or 4 out of the 5 agree to concede there is no point dragging it out. Thanks.

In GW1 we can /forfeit if your whole team does it. I agree we need this for hopeless matches.

Doesn’t compare to my hidden trapper thief build, I 100-0 full teams all day br0 trust me I aint a doctor but I play 1 on tv.

Saiyan.1704:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Are there any other games like this? Surely 8 years ago they should have sat down and designed a system they were happy with as the final pvp system in gw2. Then all their actions should have been to add features to get to this point.

But instead….just constant going back on themselves. What is going on? The amount of wasted effort must be huge.

This is a PvE game from the ground up. PvP is just a by-product… always has been with most MMO’s. WoW uses the same strategy.

There simply had never been a successful 100% PvP mmorpg game, so developers never go that route. You’re seeing all these changes because the game’s mechanical structure is Very hard to work with so… decisions are made.

Funny.. people said the opposite about GW1.