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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Condi Meta and Dungeons

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I don’t know. I think engi will be nerfed with this change. 20% of our dps come from bleeds right now… So yeah, maybe full sinister will be the way to go.

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Condi Meta and Dungeons

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100 gold into cond duration runes…

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Pugged fracatal lv 50… We did underwater mossman and when we killed him, the party started to make fun of the boss… “Uuuh, so dangerous” and so… First time I quited on a long time…

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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W*… do you have to grind a lot in order to play dungeons? At least is what i heard on the begning…Is still like this?

By the way, in fractals is my RNG or I always got a couple of good rewards and then nothingness and then a couple of good rewards and then nothingness and then a couple of good rewards and then nothingness…

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Meta is changing, you know.
But is gonna be hammer or GS/mace, that is for sure. Oh also be happy pal, we will see a lot of light fields blasted.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Any guess about the future metabuild for guard? Just wondering Hammer camping Vs Gs/Mace-X.

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Mai Trin rez exploit. -Fractals

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Goating should be fixed. And uw Mossman, pls.

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[Guide] Playing Guardian in Dungeons

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Amazing work. Thank you.

By the way… what about fractals? Any plans regarding them?

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reaper=no meta for necros

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lol nice one! XD

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reaper=no meta for necros

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It needs to be very high damage in addition to the vuln application. And by that i mean higher than staff ele. At the very least it should be comparable to ele and thief.

You need more than that. Engis are not meta for instance.

What it not make sense is Ice bow and glyph of storm on the same class. Nor PS and banners; nor aegis and reflects, etcetc. Those key skills shoud be divided among all the classes. So each class bring some unique skill and you never can have all the OP skills with any class composition.

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reaper=no meta for necros

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You forgot blinds and maybe stealth… That puts thief on the meta, albeit its dps.
Necros could easly contribute to the party with minor changes…but guess is not going to happen.

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reaper=no meta for necros

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You can’t judge anything without the traits.

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Yes, that is the last hope. But I think that, even with a traït like spotter or empower allies, necros won’t make it. What Nevets said.

They look kitten cool tho; I will give them that.

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reaper=no meta for necros

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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I am kind of sad for him. His very first videos were humble and show some basic mechanics at the time not obvius for newcomers. Then he growth arrogant and kitteny and more importantly mistaken in so many things… A pitty.

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[HeX] Cliffside Fractal (10:27)

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The problem is engi having to compete with thief for a spot… Lets hope with IB nerf engis can also compete with eles

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[HeX] Cliffside Fractal (10:27)

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Ty Taku.

Do you have videos of the other fractals?

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Swamp FotM 50 Duo 3:09

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Probably we should host two records: swamp-mossman and swamp-bloomy

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[HeX] Cliffside Fractal (10:27)

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Much appreciated. Ill take a look after work. :-D

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[HeX] Cliffside Fractal (10:27)

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Any chance to get engi point of view?

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Why zerk meta exist

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to allow people like you to give birth to interesting posts?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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One question regarding cliffside fractal. And I hope my English is good enough to make myself clear :P

On the part with the two seals, where we kill first a mob, hit the seal, go to the other seal etcetc. A thief can permablind the second mob on the first seal, so it doesnt regenerate, right? So, can an ele achive the same thing? Idk, with earth elemental just eating the hits?

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By the way, “mad at me” or “mad with me”?

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I wrote:“50, gearcheck, swp rdy”. Would you be mad with me if I kick you for wearing celestials?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Is that BD? How good is it?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Got my first precursor drop while playing my engi on fractals lv30 XD. The hunter… Looks like Iwill end up craftinf The Predotr… Sigh.

By the way, the turrets nerf is abysmal… Goodbye niche use of them.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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hey thats interesting! How you go back to mai?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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lol sounds even fun

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Taku, if I enter into Mai’s room, do I spoil the skip?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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I dont know. Guess for the same reason people fight mossman underwater.

Sigh

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Just learned how to skip mai trin… Kind of lame

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Dungeon Balance Post-Specializations

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Well, chronos seems pretty pretty interesting.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Death Note.

15char

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Racial skills in dungeons/fractals

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Ah. My fault, I always associate you and Painbow with engineers.

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Racial skills in dungeons/fractals

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Bear form for heat room

Technobabble

Where do you use technobabble?

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Specialization system = RIP meta as it is?

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im unsure about phalanx wars… Without.boon duration on the trait line… And we will not invest in any gear otjer.than berserker…. We will need the food and.atrnght runes

I forsee thief warrior ele guard and engi as new meta. Ele wont have the burst anymire, so engis vuln is gonna be needed. And blast on dodge fits so well.woth staff ele.

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yes thief warrior engi and guards are the winners. Ele stll will be on the meta, but I dont think we will stack them anymore.

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Should I reroll to warrior after changes?

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miku, engis is gonna be your next profession :p

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engi got a blast finisher on dodge? oh man, this is going to be fun

to me ele got a hit, goodbye dagger and scepter builds, and even staff lost damagae.modifiers…

sad about mesmers

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@Jayden. That will be a pretty buff for some professions.

I hope they incrase the difficulty for low level dungeons then…

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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@Element and Iris. I just did a lv50. And got the imbued shaman XD. Much better. Still, shaman hit me after the bubble when trying to res the mates. It was quite smooth nevertheless.
Thank you.

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Specialization system = RIP meta as it is?

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I didnt understand the separation traits-stats. Does that mean we will choose weather we want more or less power, precision or ferocity independently of the trait line?

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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when should I dodge? When he turns or when the arrow is already fired?

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I was on warrior. Is strfing enough? That would explain why I didnt have much problems before. I think I got.nervous.cause I.was pugging with a famous guild member :P

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Guys I think I ate all the imbued shaman arrows. Any tips? Tells?

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Oh that sucks, sry.
I had a similar experiencr on fractals lv40. We got Mai, someone called to take advantge of the log out thing. So I died near the end… I thought I would earn time logging out and in. To my surprise I log in in the fractal hall, with only one member left. No chest for me. I was so mad.

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Mesmer damage is to low

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Lately I’ve gotten in a habit of exploiting ooc weapon swaps during phantasm casts. The process is, start with sword/sword + focus (or staff if you expect boss to have 4 or more unique condis) and:

- Be in Sw/F
- Start summoning Warden
- Equip Pistol while Warden cast is channeled (double-click Pistol in inventory)
- Summon Duelist
- Swap to Sw
- Summon Swordman

There ya go, you just summoned 3 phantasms in like 3 sec. Your dps is only 3.7% less than 2xSw + 1xDuelist but you actually reached your peak dps almost instantly and still have the signet of ether available to refresh both the swordsman and the duelist in case they die later on. Or, if you’re so good that your phantasms will stay alive – equip mantra heal for +4% personal dps and a convenient way to keep your scholar bonus up vs small hits.

Moral of the story – if you want to dish out competitive dps in the burst-y nature of the current dungeon meta, you have to exploit.

I do that for stacking might on my ele and havent thought on do it on memser

I dont think anyone consider this and exploit on eles, so.why should.be and exploit onesmers? I also exploit the toss abilities on engi to prestack might, dont thinik is anexploit either

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Mesmer damage is to low

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yep.
I think DeKeyz did the maths, and then they test it and recorded on the mists
http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles

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