Guild Wars 2

I noticed that during blood farming, pets would go miles out of their way to get at the skelk nests the istant the skelk you were fighting dies.

For anyone that cared about range, longbow was 1500 and shortbow 1200. Especially given the longbow #1 skill really needing that long range. That doesn’t seem that wrong to me.

Now it’s 1500 vs 900 and shortbows have the range or a throwing axe kitten .

And don’t think the minor damage buff to some skills (taking the damage up to auto-attack skill 1 damage!) is even remotely anything to notice; rangers would gladly lose that to get the range back.

So apart from noticing the effect of the nerf, you didn’t notice anything!

Ranger doesn’t just mean archer, but it doesn’t just mean melee either. Clearly bow use is a major design aspect central to what a ranger is meant to be. That is why rangers can use both bows and has a Marksmanship trait.

The problem is that the implementation of the ranger is now at complete odds to the design of the ranger in that while bow use is central to the design and vision of a ranger, they are now the weakest archers in the game. And pretty much the weakest melee profession too, especially when you consider the defensive capabilities and armour they use.

If you want to play a ranged character, you really don’t want a ranger.
If you want to play a melee character, you really don’t want a ranger.

Enjoy your pet collection, that you can no longer control.

On the plus side you can now buy the dreamer for 500g less than you could last week!

So many things to ask. Maybe the one thing to ask them is do they realise what they have just done and that we are really not happy?

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The last sb nerf prompted some of our best builds and variations. The best of us will adapt. The worst of us will be lost in the evolution process.

Help, I’m struggling to adapt The Dreamer for greatsword use, any ideas?

I have noticed that Volatile Blossoms in TA are pretty much not targetable now with a shortbow, even standing right next to them.

They nerfed assassin in GW1? When?

You would think an Elementalist could spell

So a bow ranger has to use a greatsword to damage an opponent running away?

Do you even thing before you post, just how stupid that makes your argument sound? Your longest range attack is a freaking sword! And after that you can’t cripple to maintain the attack.

If you can’t see the problem they you don’t understand much and shouldn’t be in this thread.

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Did I miss anything?

The silence from ANet is answering the thread question.

I would like to know what is their vision for a ranger now and how it has changed from what they envisaged when they first announced the ranger. What is the rangers defining aspect; much was made of that being the pet at range, skills like Alpha Strike, where you call in three pets at once, were much touted along with range being central to the design.

Do ANet still stand by that design goal or is the ranger to be something different now?

Why make a new post about this? Not being listened to else where?

Rangers use bows because bows are a weapon that is equipable by that profession and you cannot argue with that.

The problem is that those weapons, on a ranger, are crap. Every other bow wielder does it better, that also is crap.

ANet messed up the profession bad, debating on the etymology of a feaking word wont change that and it wont stip the kittenstorm.

I had a hard time getting into a dungeon group last night as ranger, the one group I did get into let me because they needed someone to take them into exp mode, but wanted me to change to an alt.

I couldn’t even get upset about those that didn’t want me, I just wished them well and kept looking, it’s not their fault ANet removed ranger from the game.

So I can report it has now started to happen. Last night I couldn’t get into some dungeons as a ranger. The one party I did get into was because I was the only player that could enter exp mode and even then they asked if I had another character.

Still waiting for anything to come from the devs in terms of what they plan to do about the mess they made.

And I would suggest they open that dialogue with ‘sorry’

If we stay quiet ANet will think we don’t mind the nerf. If we stop buying Gems ANet will think that Thieves need a buff (cf GW1).

ANet hates rangers and has perpetually nerfed the crap out of them for the last 8 years.

Terrible, boring, useless.

Standing around stroking your dead pet is all they can do now.

GW2 does not have a ranger profession. ANet removed it in the last balance patch.

JJBigs.8456:

A far cry (Although more significant) from what Ranger’s are used for.

And what exactly are rangers used for? There isn;t a single function that you can get a ranger to do that isn’t done far more capably by another class, and just as importantly, more fun.

The problem wasn’t that the shortbow range was too long, it’s that the longbow range was too short. You can now throw a lump of metal stck to a stick as far as you can fire a shortbow, that’s just plain stupid. Put shortbow back to 1200 and longbow up to 1500.

I was looking forward to a big balance patch to buff the massively under-powered rangers up. Wow, what a kick in the teeth for poor rangers, the weakest profession just got smiters booned!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Yes, we care about the forums. We also care about all the classes equally.

Then care to explain why you thought it necessary to nerf the hell out of the weakest profession by far in the game?

Care to explain what kind of a bow weapon can;tr fire an arrow further than you can throw an axe?

Care to explain why you want the ranger profession to always do a worse job than any other profession whatever build you try to put together?

If you care, then tell us. It’s not as if we are in game playing at the moment, we have lots of time on our hands to listen.

Galtrix.7369:

The thief wins Guild Wars 2, gg everyone.

As it did in Guild Wars 1

Guess which the worst profession in GW1 and GW2 is?

Shiren.9532:

What happened to balancing with small changes? In one patch they did a massive nerf to the shortbow’s range, they move a 5 point trait that almost every build used to a 30 point trait (quickness on pet swap) and did an almost universally across the board significant pet DPS nerf. These are not small changes and they all came in the same patch. How is this fine tuning?

They had to, clearly rangers were so vastly overpowered in ANet fairy land.

There was a rumour that a ranger once beat a thief in WvW, ANet just had to act on that.

Atrabelos.7584:

I would also like to note that there are usually followup patches whenever a huge update comes out that fix bugs and fine-tune issues from the last patch. It is a guarantee that one is coming – this balance patch won’t be the last update Rangers ever get.

Have patience.

You are right, rangers are still twitching, the next patch should finish them off completely.

BTW, try taking a ranger in a dungeon then tell us the nerf wasn’t bad/

I guess these changes gives me the motivation I needed to quit guild wars

So a shortbow now has the range of throwing a dagger or axe?

Garbage update. They should have left the shortbow at 1200 and made longbow 1500.

Pets now little more than oversized mini-pets

Goodbye rangers, ANet doesn’t want you in the game.

Does ANet even play this game, or have any knowledge of it at all?

The patch proves that they don’t, I can’t comprehend the logic of nerfing to extinction the weakest profession in the game.

I am on the verge of crafting The Dreamer, but now what’s the point? Who would want a useless my little pony stick?