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If you have a gs you can gap close them easily, just make sure they have used point blank before you rush or enjoy one in the face. They are also at huge disadvantage in close tig areas so there you can gang them up easily.

If you run hambow/shoutbow prepare you get wrecked by any decent pewpew ranger and theres nothing you can do unless as i said you fight them in close tig areas..

Caedmon.6798:

use shield block while getting close,

When im playing on my pewpew and i see a shield block i just turn back and start running away so you wont close any gap to me, in close range i will use entagle and kitten you over. Shield stance is overrated.

Invictus.1503:

Aomine.5012:

raubvogel.5071:

i hope it’s a new ascended armor set for crafting so it needs some time and not everyone will get it (fast).

No. Make it outfit so everyone can use.
We don’t need more time gated “privilege”

Please no. I don’t care how many people run around wearing it, but an outfit means no mix & match. I want it as an armor so I can pick it apart and combine it with other armors to make a cool look.

I dont like mix&match. In many cases ppl think they created something “cool” but in fact they look like a joke. No offense but that how it is. Sure theres a few that actually looks pretty decent, but everything else…

On another note i wish this set was to revenants olny as their iconic set. In b4 fake “revenants” called guardians and warriors with blindfold..

Im curious about axe 4 for revenant as i see possible exploit there in wvw. If it does work like axe 3 on warrior where you can throw it to hit someone on the wall, revenant will also have that possibility, but unlike some joke cripple, he will teleport on the wall behind target. If there inst anything to that prevent situation i will have a lot of fun in the future

jacim.5904:

Lol the class isnt even done yet and pleople are still complaining
Not only that but you ahve no idea how the other classes are going to work when the expansion is out
Please wait till the expansion is out before you complain.

People always do that. I bet there forums will be flooded with qq about revenants on launch cause they wont have any idea how to deal with it (see bullrush hb warrior). Its always easier to complain and nerf somehting into ground rathen than adapt.

Its will be funny when it turn out that specializations are stronger than revenant itself.

Hammer? Revenant ofc.

Xenon.4537:

I don’t know why you would have thought the release would be spring/summer when all the evidence points to fall. The biggest piece of evidence is the earnings report saying they expect massive income in Q3 2015.

Like in 2013 and 2014 from the same company outside of ncsoft that are nothing else but a speculations huh?

If they wanted to release expansion so late we would be preparing for ls s3 already.

L2P.

Message Body length must at least be 15.

Exeon.4358:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Personally i dislike frostfang as every other ice weapon, not olny in this game but in general. Ice weapons looks silly in places like a desert.

How about lightning and fire weapons in the rain? XD

Not sure about lightning weapons. Never used one personally. As for the fire weapons in the rain;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire

I can imaginene it already..Since Revenant use wepaons diffrent than eveyrone else

Warrior – dps
Guard – dps
Ranger – defensive weapon
Mesmer – long range dps
Necromancer – pretty possible that they will use it as a dps weapon as well

=….

Revenant with condition based gs? Lol

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

A lot of things look silly. Like a bow that shoots friggin unicorns. I don’t really care, as long as I personally enjoy the way something looks. Desert or not.

Different opinions, diffrent tastes I am more into fire stuff in general and actually..it fits charr unlike ice ones that are created for norns.

Personally i dislike frostfang as every other ice weapon, not olny in this game but in general. Ice weapons looks silly in places like a desert.

Fashion Mage.3712:

Seems like the ultimate tank/bunker to me. Jalis is an overall very effective tank legend, and the Mallyx legend is very effective at tanking and controlling conditions.

Personally I can’t think of anything else that’s so specialized in tanking/bunkering. What does everyone else think?

Mallyx has 0 condition removal. I have no idea where you see a tank there. Its a offensive legend imo

Faux.1937:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Vrita.7846:

I doubt Jon was using zerker gear, so I can assume that’s not the damage you’ll be doing with a glass cannon build. The class isn’t finished either, so it’s possible the damage will be tweaked anyway.

In the POI Jon had around 1300 power and 180 crit dmg while using hammer. So my guess is that hammer 1 will do similiar damage to ranger lb 1.

Also he looked far from being OP, but some cant see anything behind marketing stuff. Its obvious they will make it look strong cus $$$

But I wasnt talking about the damage in Video, I was talking about Traits and current weapon sets alone..

The hammer Tool Tips showed a Ok damage actually, but then when swap to Mace.. the mace tool tips was 1/4 the damage with condi (meaning its a condi damage weapon set, and thats ok, every class has one).

Then no traits (of the 3 revealed to us) has any modifiers good for PvE damage.

You dont need traits if the base damage is actually high. On top of that they showed up olny professions line, defense line and condition line. They dindt show us yet dps and support lines so calm down. Personally i hate passive boosting wep traits as weapons itself feels incomplete without them and i hope they wont add them to revenant.

Id rathen have utility ones like what they showed us and that should apply to every class out here. Lets get rid of this nonsense +10% dmg on gs skills etc. its lame desing

Swim.6830:

Another class not being affected by chill…

Interesing considering the fact that he has cd’s on weapon skills. But meh who cares. Lets jump on OP NERF IT ASAP HYPE TRAIN

NERF DEMON LEGENDARY ELITE IT SPREADS EBOLA!!!

Vrita.7846:

I doubt Jon was using zerker gear, so I can assume that’s not the damage you’ll be doing with a glass cannon build. The class isn’t finished either, so it’s possible the damage will be tweaked anyway.

In the POI Jon had around 1300 power and 180 crit dmg while using hammer. So my guess is that hammer 1 will do similiar damage to ranger lb 1.

Also he looked far from being OP, but some cant see anything behind marketing stuff. Its obvious they will make it look strong cus $$$

Simon.3794:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Simon.3794:

Tseison.4659:

Just taking a look at the PoI and I’m not as impressed yet. Still waiting to see more info on other weapons. A question I do have is, since they name off 3 traits so far, does that leave 2 left for just 2 more legends? So possibly Shiro and another? (Hopefully Master Togo, even if his trait line is healing. I’d just like a pure ritualist inspired trait line & legend).

what i think would be dps, condi, tank, support plus last line for class mech

“Using a legendary demon stance….” suggests that there will be something else outside of Mallyx. Maybe not at release but in future who knows..

Im curious if support will be a legend that focuses on cleaning conditions;

-X+Jalix combo for bunker builds
-Mallyx+X once you have to many conditions on yourself to get rid of them.

not sure why would you think that there will be other demon stance, using a legendary demon stance is a mallyx line trait which affects every mallyx skill, just like how elementalist traits work, when swap to air, damage increase, when swap to earth w/e you gain w/e.

or like use shout remove condition..use meditation gain fury.

Cause i dont think they going to create tons of traitlines for every new legendary that we will be able to use in the future. For me it implies that we might see more legendary demon “heroes” unless they just going to give more utility to choose from to current ones

Simon.3794:

Tseison.4659:

Just taking a look at the PoI and I’m not as impressed yet. Still waiting to see more info on other weapons. A question I do have is, since they name off 3 traits so far, does that leave 2 left for just 2 more legends? So possibly Shiro and another? (Hopefully Master Togo, even if his trait line is healing. I’d just like a pure ritualist inspired trait line & legend).

what i think would be dps, condi, tank, support plus last line for class mech

“Using a legendary demon stance….” suggests that there will be something else outside of Mallyx. Maybe not at release but in future who knows..

Im curious if support will be a legend that focuses on cleaning conditions;

-X+Jalix combo for bunker builds
-Mallyx+X once you have to many conditions on yourself to get rid of them.

Zackie.8923:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Its not ingame yet but..

Finally anet is not coming up with creepy crawlie plant skins… that axe and mace look amazing like daedric

I mostly love em for black-red colors. Also dat hammer..Juggernaut “staff” looks like a joke in comprasion.

Can’t w8 to see all new skins coming with HoT

Im curious about Jalis elite. The description says that you gain damage reduction but in the vid once it was used i noticed the same effect as endure pain – wolf was hitting them for 0.

Its not ingame yet but..

thefantasticg.3984:

I’m hoping Sword+Dagger will be DPS weapons and not condi crap like the hammer/mace+axe. I’m hoping that there will be legends that are all about DPS and not about worthless condis.

Hammer condition? Are we watched the same POI?

Simon.3794:

then what do you think about protection on dodge?

This…

Anyone who watched POI know whats coming..

Test.8734:

Nike.2631:

There is no way I get “no skill will ever cost more than 50%/the amount you start with” from that. There’s not much “push-pull” if you come in with all your buttons hot and are just waiting to store up double what you need for your best shot…

And, no skill from the stream today cost more than 50% of the skill bar.

And it seems like you can stay in one legend if you know what youre doing.

MarkPhilips.5169:

A lot of new stuff on revenant in today POI, i hope there will be a site/topic/blog/something else where we can find every infos anet showed us this evening.

Dulfy.

Jon Peters 5 signet yolo and Roy were amazing. Definitely best POI ever. Now..where is that pre-order buttom?

xDudisx.5914:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Why do you think you get a taunt? Even if you get one its will be high telegraphed on a long cd. And its not like you cant use stunbreak either.

And like Tom said, new cookies are for revenant+specializations olny

I see it been ranged.

Killshot says hi. If warrior get it then im pretty sure we will see that skill in new utility type. I wish they could make physical skills viable tho..

BlackTruth.6813:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Why do you think you get a taunt? Even if you get one its will be high telegraphed on a long cd. And its not like you cant use stunbreak either.

And like Tom said, new cookies are for revenant+specializations olny

If Warrior gets a taunt and people stun break that, now they’re vulnerable to other chain CC combos Warrior have.

Must be so hard to count stun breaks I guess. But who knows? Maybe next patch will give all classes 10 million stun breaks.

Dodge, blind, block, stability, invul, teleport, counter cc. Something you probably never heard about. I personally love to use point blank right in the moment i see hammer warrior using earthshaker. Puff your chain cc combos are gone.

Why do you think you get a taunt? Even if you get one its will be high telegraphed on a long cd. And its not like you cant use stunbreak either.

And like Tom said, new cookies are for revenant+specializations olny

“Meanwhile, the character will actually transform into a more demonic pose, gaining Mallyx’s strength more directly.”

Source;
http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/2/18/8061219/guild-wars-2-profession-reveal-revenant-pc-mmo-arenanet

It seems to be linked with embrance the dark which you can toggle on/off at any given time.

“Summon the power of the legendary demon to transform into a powerful avatar. Increase all attributes, and copy conditions to nearby foes every few seconds.””

Embrance the dark has no cd.

’This is an example of an upkeep skill. You can activate (and deactivate) this mode at any time as long as you have the energy necessary to keep paying the upkeep cost of the skill."

Also

“You want to keep conditions on yourself, because they empower the skills on your bar,” Cronacher says. "Each skill puts a condition on yourself, and it’s all about managing how many conditions you can have on yourself while keeping yourself heathy and alive.

Mallyx-equipped revenants will have to do a careful balancing act, but it can pay off"

Condi reflect seems to be a poor idea.

Hlord.5940:

Does nothing was Kormir:
PvE: 1200 range, all the exp, money, loot and credit are transfer to you, effect 5 friendly targets
PvP: all the rank point, reward chest and player point from your team are transfer to you at the end of the match

You forgot one;

WvW; all chicks are yours.

^At some point i wont be surprised if specializations change our base hp.

But i think the reason why revenant has medium hp is due to the fact that guardian has low hp pool and warrior already have high one. Middle one seemed like a obvious choice for revenant

Knighthonor.4061:

Woooooo stop!!!

This is getting scary.

I know people asked for a Horror themed soldier class, but Anet, I am not sure this is what people meant by that.

Death Knight um sry i meant Misty Knight is alive! Everyone doesnt realize 1 thing tho.. His teleport/leap skills require a target. Once in combat he wont be able to gtfo like gs war or thief

Svarty.8019:

Well at least it doesn’t stealth :rolleyes: … it doesn’t stealth, does it?

I have feeling that actually he has some access to stealth Revenant looks like a mix of all existing classes

Caedmon.6798:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Warrior is in a good spot in groupfights. But in duels/solo roaming you get roflstomped by any half decent player, i wont even mention 1vx at this point unless it a group of noobs.

That really depends on the player controlling the warrior.

Are you trying to imply that warrior can come out victorious no matter what they run in?

Many classes utilize on crit sigils actually along with traits otherwise everyone would run in dire but nvm that one. Its better to calm down and w8 to see what will happen once expansion hit.

Warrior is in a good spot in groupfights. But in duels/solo roaming you get roflstomped by any half decent player, i wont even mention 1vx at this point unless it a group of noobs.

Invictus.1503:

HAMMER: Drop the Hammer – This one is a ground targeted AOE knockdown. You target a large area, swing your hammer, and then a giant Mist hammer comes swirling out of the nether knocks everyone in that area down. It’s only got a 15 second cooldown for now, but a higher Energy cost… still, imagine this in WvW?

I am gonna troll ppl so hard with that hammer ability.

Also

“With that we came to a close. Roy noted that the mobility of the Revenant in combat is a lot like the Thief’s out of combat but he’s definitely not as mobile as the Thief when not in a fight drawing upon the Mists.”

In this case slow will act a bit like a cripple imo. Actually even worse as you be “rushing” at slower pace and it will take longer to execute (3sec?) as well locking you out of skills unless you swap.

Legendary demon stance spreads ebola. Nerf plox

Kagamiku.9731:

What about Soldier or berserker, or pretty much any other stats that doesn’t rely entirely on condition damage? Dire gear is already OP because you can stack two forms of defensive bonuses while still dealing insane pressure damage.

I think im not getting that point about soldier/zerk. They dont rely on conditions outside of soft cc as cripple, immo, chill. Slow cant comment yet as we have to see it ingame. Not much changes here imo.

Dire gear while its look op on paper in practice ppl goes for rabin instead cause a lot of condi builds rely on crit procs. I dont think i have seen any dire engi ever for example. You may meet some necros but the damage is definitely lower than from rabid ones.

Kagamiku.9731:

Ok, I’ll consider that a “tiny” buff. But when you realize that resistance doesn’t actually negate conditions from being applied and when the resistance boon runs dry and you have a million conditions ticking on you…That tiny buff becomes garbage.
Plus any good necro will save a boonstrip for that skill and it will never be useful against them.

I dont think you be able to place conditions on the target if that boon is up. At least that how i understand it. Its up again to see ingame how it work out. At worse state BS wont be as useful as it is right now, but its still have it place. As for boonstrip the same goes for transformations skill but i dont see anyone complaining about it?

Cygnus.6903:

People that say that BS allows you to faceroll your keyboard for the duration are not getting what the skill is for.

Also, an engineer or thief that can not kite/block/stealth/othwerise defend against you for 8 seconds is as terribad as the build they are playing.

Condi engineer has such a plethora of defensive abilities, blocks, protection, CC, EVERYTHING, that if you die to a warrior in 8 seconds, well, insert words here.

Idk about others, but in my case i use zerk stance as offensive tool considering the build im playing (played actually, i no longer pvp as war).

As for the second part youre right but keep in mind that necro doesnt have any blocks, invul, mobility. It seems like they designed it to actually buff em in some way.

Time will tell if the desing change was a good choice. Probably not but i could care less about it either way. It has + and – as i said above

Kagamiku.9731:

They can do kitten! If they’re not a straight up faceroll cond class, BS is considerably less useful as their main source of damage will be power damage. BS is really good against condition necro and blind/poison spamming thiefs. And they can both strip resistance and apply it to themselves no problem.

Also Diamond Skin no counterplay? Lol. Again, it’s a problem with full braindead cond builds. ANY class can drop an ele by 10% for them to lose Diamond Skins affect.

Also, where is the buff? BS is better than resistance in every way.

Olny in cele, sinister. Rabin/dire on the other hand has literally has 0 power. I dont like braindead spec either but that how it is anyway. Now you wont be able to use it middlessy at any given time but you will have to use it strategically.

As for the buff?

-Zerk stance will be affected by boon duration. Pair that with sure footed and you have nice uptime there (also not everyone can strip boons still).

-If you mess up you can use bs to prevent conditions from ticking up. Against fear you gain indirectly another stunbreaker. Not sure on taunt as its most likely wont be a condition itself.

Ppl will either adapt or quit. I still rebember that qq about thief stealing our SoR boons. See any qq now? I dont. People have adapted to that one.

And everythere else you mentioned there are class issues as well. Sooner or later they get fixed like skullcrack, pindown, dhuumfire.

Also funny thing that i been complaining about rifle engi skills back in 2013 and..hehe

Kagamiku.9731:

They have counterplay. It’s called physical damage and condition damage. Depending on the skill. So many skills have no counterplay in this game, BS and EP are not one of the worst offenders.

BS was just a example. Same goes for Diamond Skin etc. It seems like they reworking that stuff to grant stripable boon instead. Right now you cannot be touched by conditions and it fact it gives you 8sec of facerolling the keyboard while your opponent cant do anything other than running away. In current state its a bad desing. You may agree or disagree but noone gives a kitten about opinions here.

Also while it looks like a nerf, it also a buff at some point.

Kagamiku.9731:

There is no reason for BS to be changed into the resistance boon. Just because a skill acts similar to a boon, doesn’t mean the skill should become the boon. BS is still better than the boon and BS would become pretty crappy if changed to Resistance. Thiefs and Necros eat boons for breakfast, and even worse, their skills can even transfer the boon to them. So rather than having an 8 second condition immunity applied to us, we have an 8 second “immunity” that is likely to be used against us.

Actually it seems they want to add counterplay to immunities. Today Zerk stance, tomorrow endure pain. RIP

We know he uses sword. We can olny assume that the spear looking thing is a staff actually as they turned hammer into long range weapon. What a joke but oh well..

As for dagger it is not confirmed. We wasnt supposed to see Pop and what he uses. Just cause he used it there doesnt mean we will get it as they might as well scrap this idea of offhand dagger and delete it.

The way i see it is that there will be about 5 legends at the start (tank, support, control, condition, dps) and cause in general some of our utilities have up to 5-6 types (4 as utility, 1 as elite, 1 as heal) they might get a bit of flexibility at this point.

Even if they be locked in fine with that anyway. In general we trait in one type of utilities – just look at medi guard. We barely picking something else outside of that as we wont have synergy with traits.

And lol at the speculations that revenant will be predictable. Every class is predicable actually..

DragonflyDusk.6582:

Scoobaniec.9561:

I was right about hammer..HAHAHAHA IN YA FACE HAHAHA. I was also right about medium hp pool considering the fact guard has low hp and war high.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/revenant-the-master-of-the-mists/

Good this nonsense about staff is over.

Now that this “nonsense is over”, you should have time to reflect on how sad it is that this meant so much to you.

Except that it’s not over, having a hammer =/= no staff. Or else someone should tell the Guardians they missed the memo. Guardians… why you gotta be like that?

I like the way the hammer sounds, and I’m really hoping at least one skill lets me lob Entropy at some Risen. I would really like a melee staff though, so I can go around clubbing even more Risen with The Crossing.

It is called (attachment)… Just wanted to enjoy my 5min victory b4 ppl realzie tis long range weapon. That said staff takes hammer place as a slow melee weapon. Kinda makes no sense for me but let it be. Now going to QQ in a corner!

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/revenant-the-master-of-the-mists/

Bye warrior. RIP. Not even F2 save you. Slowed evi and hb will be soo fun to watch

Gnat.9405:

I wouldn’t place bets just yet, be mindful that Rytlock used S/P when he was a Warrior. Also keep in mind that Revenant will have a specialization that gives access to additional weapon types.

I mostly hope he uses axe though.

Shhh. Let me enjoy that short 5min victory ^^