Guild Wars 2

ZaiTh.6378:

Skarecrow.7892:

ZaiTh.6378:

Natural.7013:

More gear progression is the only way this game will last.

Yes I have a love/hate relationship with this game lol.

Thing is, they promised that this game was not going to have that. After the new tier of gear comes out and you “beat” that, then what? Another new tier? You might as well go back to WoW.. they have that perfected. Anet promised a different experience, too bad they are starting to listen to the WoW kiddies and going down this path… it will not end well.

I tried Wow and could not get past the horrible Fisher Price Graphics. Can I say it was a horrible game? No I can’t because their revenue supports the opposite. I have played multiple MMo’s since EQ1 in 1998 and have participated in 90% of every Beta for MMo’s since then. For people it is hard to go against their first true love =/

If you like the treadmill but perfer better graphics with a better class system Rift was actually a decent game for such. The main problem people have is if you add treadmill to a game you infact force people into it or they become useless and feel like lesser players which actually ruins the game as most players do not enjoy treadmill’s. Thats where the problem is. I as well have played in most of the beta’s since i started playing mmo’s and this is the first since my first mmo that i had that same feeling of oh wow this is awesome. That was because of the sole fact that i dident have to keep grinding gear to stay relevant and could go off helping my friends who dont play as much as me or i could do other things when i needed a change. This is the feelings a lot of players are running into now. This is why were in such a rage. ANet went 7-8 years with GW1 without increasing level or stats. That kind of game can still survive. To be honest maybe 10% of the player base actually comes to the forum’s because the other 90% actually are in game enjoying it.

MrLee.6892:

SiNoS.2147:

MrLee.6892:

Dogblaster.6713:

Naoko.7096:

People are really so paranoid here. 56 pages.
Don’t worry too much. -_-

- PLEASE Read This -

They still live by their philosophy. Why can’t you guys see that?
More importantly, what are you guys afraid of?

GW2: Ascended gears are just another tier. It’s not a requirement to have it to experience any future new content X/Y/Z. You can have fun with all in-game content and dungeons with any tier equipments. You don’t need to grind to experience content X/Y/Z.

Traditional MMO: Better gears are needed to experience new contents, story in PVE and raids. Those gears are a mandatory requirement to reap the fun of the the new content X/Y/Z. Players are forced to grind just to experience newer content.

They are so different.
Yet, it ponders me why can’t people see it.

You dont get it do you, current ascendent gear will last for how long ? 3 months? year?

Then they introduce even more poverful ascendent gear so its start again. THis is not their philosophy..

Guild Wars philosophy = you obtained best gear (aka exotic) and there will never ever better gear. stat wise. Even after 7years the armor you equiped at release, was the best.

Every player was equal, WvW vs PvE players, those who dont likes dungeons had the same gear in wvw like those who runs dungeon only.
After this update, those who run dungeons and have ascendent gear, they will have advantage over those who dont, in wvw .. .DO YOU GET IT?

I don’t think that you get it… That is boring to most people hence the change.

This is Guild Wars 2 not Guild Wars 1. Things change. Either you adapt or you quit. (Or go back to Guild Wars 1.)
Sorry to see ya go, but don’t let the door hit ya in the buttocks!

Yet according to a poll only 20% actually like this change. 80% dislike it and over 50% will leave over it. How is this the change needed when they will lose half there player base to a change like this?

What poll? Please link.

If it’s a poll from the Guild Wars 2 forums, then it’s not a very accurate poll since only 5-10% of the player base doesn’t even visit the forums.

Man this feels like the elections again!
Fox has a poll showing Mitt in the lead, but then you change it to NBC and it shows Obama in the lead!

LOL

Its a fairly realistic poll. A lot of people have come here because friends pointed them to it and they needed to check it out them selfs. Your type that wants gear progression on every poll i’ve ever seen never even get to 25%. Not a single one and i’ve seen hundreds of them.

MrLee.6892:

Dogblaster.6713:

Naoko.7096:

People are really so paranoid here. 56 pages.
Don’t worry too much. -_-

- PLEASE Read This -

They still live by their philosophy. Why can’t you guys see that?
More importantly, what are you guys afraid of?

GW2: Ascended gears are just another tier. It’s not a requirement to have it to experience any future new content X/Y/Z. You can have fun with all in-game content and dungeons with any tier equipments. You don’t need to grind to experience content X/Y/Z.

Traditional MMO: Better gears are needed to experience new contents, story in PVE and raids. Those gears are a mandatory requirement to reap the fun of the the new content X/Y/Z. Players are forced to grind just to experience newer content.

They are so different.
Yet, it ponders me why can’t people see it.

You dont get it do you, current ascendent gear will last for how long ? 3 months? year?

Then they introduce even more poverful ascendent gear so its start again. THis is not their philosophy..

Guild Wars philosophy = you obtained best gear (aka exotic) and there will never ever better gear. stat wise. Even after 7years the armor you equiped at release, was the best.

Every player was equal, WvW vs PvE players, those who dont likes dungeons had the same gear in wvw like those who runs dungeon only.
After this update, those who run dungeons and have ascendent gear, they will have advantage over those who dont, in wvw .. .DO YOU GET IT?

I don’t think that you get it… That is boring to most people hence the change.

This is Guild Wars 2 not Guild Wars 1. Things change. Either you adapt or you quit. (Or go back to Guild Wars 1.)
Sorry to see ya go, but don’t let the door hit ya in the buttocks!

Yet according to a poll only 20% actually like this change. 80% dislike it and over 50% will leave over it. How is this the change needed when they will lose half there player base to a change like this?

Myrrdhinn.5627:

I usually respect everyone’s opinion and don’t involve myself into such argument, but I hate to see this..

Stop whining.. seriously!
You don’t have to get the Ascended armor set unless you want to play the new dungeon. It’ll basically gives better protection against the new game mechanic.
It ‘ll slightly powerful than exotic yes, but guess what, I don’t have full exotic set and I don’t have a single problem with dungeons, WvW whatsoever.

So.. you making yourselves the problem. If you don’t want it you don’t get it. It’s that simple. If you don’t like the new dungeon, you don’t go in there. You won’t miss on anything.

So.. you making yourselves the problem. If you don’t want it you don’t get it. It’s that simple. If you don’t like the new dungeon, you don’t go in there. You won’t miss on anything.Duh…

And people already require exotic’s only for content because of the stats. Now with this they are going to require it. Not to mention you cant just walk into this dungeon and help out buddies. You have to grind this gear to be of use to them unlike the current other dungeons.

hplee.2839:

Daphius.4580:

We came here not to have another endless grind. We don’t want the game to be destroyed by whiners. Please, think again Anet. Thank you.

endless grind? ever heard about a thing called Legendary weapon? that thing is already in game yoy

Which is completely optional.

Naoko.7096:

People are really so paranoid here. 56 pages.
Don’t worry too much. -_-

- PLEASE Read This -

They still live by their philosophy. Why can’t you guys see that?
More importantly, what are you guys afraid of?

GW2: Ascended gears are just another tier. It’s not a requirement to have it to experience any future new content X/Y/Z. You can have fun with all in-game content and dungeons with any tier equipments. You don’t need to grind to experience content X/Y/Z.

Traditional MMO: Better gears are needed to experience new contents, story in PVE and raids. Those gears are a mandatory requirement to reap the fun of the the new content X/Y/Z. Players are forced to grind just to experience newer content.

They are so different.
Yet, it ponders me why can’t people see it.

It was said in that dev blog post that infact to complete the new dungeon you would infact need the new gear. You CAN NOT finish it with only MC/Rare/Exotic gear.

Jrunyon.3012:

SiNoS.2147:

Jrunyon.3012:

SiNoS.2147:

Valtameri.2075:

SiNoS.2147:

At this rate ANet wont have the money to produce another GW.

At what rate? Do you have access to Anet’s financial accounts or something?
Just because vocal minority whines doesn’t mean peole are doing somekind of mass exodus.

Its the majority that dont like whats going on. The vocal minority are the handful of players that rushed to max then dont have enough brains to actually find things to do but instead complain and whine constantly on the forum’s for the last 2 months.

Lol, you mean like youre doing now?

How am i doing that now? I actually like how the game is currently. I have no issue finding things to do. But the change this new patch threatens will lead to gear progression which will destroy the game for the majority of the community making them do this said content to stay viable. Which is the worse thing they could do.

Just go and check your other posts and see if thats not whining. You have no idea what effect this will have on the game, only Anet know how it will be implemented completely. Jeez, first precursors, now this. I guess everybody has to complain about something.

I’ve never said anything about precursors… And this isent something to sit back on and wait to see how it works out. By that point its to late. I’ve watched every game i’ve played in the last 3 years cave to this mind set and tank for it as i set back and watched it play out. Like hell ill set back and let it happen again. I am a true follower of the GW ideal. And the WoW simpleminded mentality is aiming to ruin a game that finally is trying to get away from that thinking.

Sibe.3512:

SiNoS.2147:

Sibe.3512:

exotic armor grinded? what do you mean?
i took only 4 hours after lv 80 for farm my complete exotic gear berserk, other 2 hours for rampage and other 3 hours for knight.
where is the grind? exotic gear is pratically free gear
if you want dungeon skin that is 1 bit grind but you are not obligate

ascendant gear only for dungeon? where you are read this?
they will introduce 200 new recipes if you read the full patch note, it mean ascendant gear will be craftable, but you need infusion for dungeon progression and infusion will drop only in dungeon cause it effect only dungeon progression if you read the full patch note

there no word about spvp and wvwvw, maybe they will put this item in too?
it is soon for say everythink, just wait the release day….

Point us to these patch notes as i’ve not seen anything about recipe’s.

this i mean “A new resource to harvest with 200 new crafting recipes”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Lost_Shores

Ok i see it although its not actually from ANet. If it does actually show up in the game though my bet is it is to craft the infusions them selves. We will see though.

Jrunyon.3012:

SiNoS.2147:

Valtameri.2075:

SiNoS.2147:

At this rate ANet wont have the money to produce another GW.

At what rate? Do you have access to Anet’s financial accounts or something?
Just because vocal minority whines doesn’t mean peole are doing somekind of mass exodus.

Its the majority that dont like whats going on. The vocal minority are the handful of players that rushed to max then dont have enough brains to actually find things to do but instead complain and whine constantly on the forum’s for the last 2 months.

Lol, you mean like youre doing now?

How am i doing that now? I actually like how the game is currently. I have no issue finding things to do. But the change this new patch threatens will lead to gear progression which will destroy the game for the majority of the community making them do this said content to stay viable. Which is the worse thing they could do.

Valtameri.2075:

SiNoS.2147:

At this rate ANet wont have the money to produce another GW.

At what rate? Do you have access to Anet’s financial accounts or something?
Just because vocal minority whines doesn’t mean peole are doing somekind of mass exodus.

Its the majority that dont like whats going on. The vocal minority are the handful of players that rushed to max then dont have enough brains to actually find things to do but instead complain and whine constantly on the forum’s for the last 2 months.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Why is gear grinding a bad thing? Because it’s usually NOT FUN.

Are GW2’s means to obtain ascended gear NOT FUN? We don’t know yet.

No gear grinds are bad because it makes it to where unless you grind that gear you are useless.

Sibe.3512:

exotic armor grinded? what do you mean?
i took only 4 hours after lv 80 for farm my complete exotic gear berserk, other 2 hours for rampage and other 3 hours for knight.
where is the grind? exotic gear is pratically free gear
if you want dungeon skin that is 1 bit grind but you are not obligate

ascendant gear only for dungeon? where you are read this?
they will introduce 200 new recipes if you read the full patch note, it mean ascendant gear will be craftable, but you need infusion for dungeon progression and infusion will drop only in dungeon cause it effect only dungeon progression if you read the full patch note

there no word about spvp and wvwvw, maybe they will put this item in too?
it is soon for say everythink, just wait the release day….

Point us to these patch notes as i’ve not seen anything about recipe’s.

At this rate ANet wont have the money to produce another GW.

Gabi.5264:

Vengus.1098:

Gabi.5264:

My God, you folks are so kitten hilarious, complaining and complaining, Anet makes the game the way they want, enjoy it and shut the hell up or LEAVE QUIETLY because, like you used to tell us (the guys that enjoy progression instead of dressing up like barbie dolls) this is not the game for you.

Take a chill pill and go play sims or buy a doll.

It was Arenanets promise that they would bring in gearbased progression, people have every right to be upset. There are plenty of games on the market with gearbased progression, I don’t see why GW2 has to go down the same path. All they are doing is moving GW2 in such a position that they are directly competing with WoW, and no game who has ever done that survived it. Atleast failed sub games could survive by going F2P, GW2 can’t even do that.

You are the one who’s wrong.

GW1 had a pretty small player base compared to other mmos out there.
Changes are always welcomed … or the game gets boring, truth is game was lacking a lot and Anet made a great move, introducing new things, while you folks overreact like you’re in a marriage and a baby is about to come. Get this mate, this baby might be a beautiful thing. If you don’t want a baby feel free to get a divorce…. see what i did there?

Edit: you edited your post.

GW1 actually had the 2nd or 3rd highest population of the time. Of US games only WoW had them topped. GW1 averaged around 1-1.5 million players. Even today that would be one of the top MMO’s in the field.

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

Thank you so much for saving GW2 by doing this Anet <3

This will most likely ruin GW2. You do realize that right? Those that want the treadmill will come back for a few days get bored and move on again. Those that dont want it will outright leave. How is that better?

A ton of people have quit the game already because of lack of PvE and/or exciting gear at end-game. I don’t see how adding end-game content could ever be a bad thing. You can put on a full set of blues and clear dungeons anyways right now. Just don’t grind new gear if that’s not your thing. Why does this pretentious “no gear grind” ideal have to be pushed onto all of us?

Because you make it so that great players that might not like to do that content daily unable to help in that content. It makes it to where you force everyone to do that content. And the majority of the player base actually does not like to do gear grind.

I’ve said it before you can NOT have gear grind in a game designed to not need gear grind.

So you just want to clear new content in one day? Where’s the fun in that?

The fun is i get to play with my friends. But if you do gear grind now i cant play with that friend because they litterally cant do the content. Where is the fun in that i ask you?

So you only can do this new dungeon with your friend? You don’t want to “waste” your time helping him getting gear? Unless you really want to play with him, so you can gather new gear together.

Thats the point your forced to grind the gear. My friend does not like dungeon’s or any simular content. The only come to this content sometimes because i ask them to because i need a spot filled. We have fun when hes there but fact is he does not enjoy doing this content all the time. With this change he is eather forced to run this all the time or we part ways and i never run with him again. That is not fun. Not fun at all.

You’re getting a bit lost there.
You want to run new dungeon with friend over and over, but he does not like it. – Not fun.
You want to run new dungeon with friend once and then wait half a year for new content. – You find it fun.

You clearly dident read my posts correctly.

“The fun is i get to play with my friends. But if you do gear grind now i cant play with that friend because they litterally cant do the content. Where is the fun in that i ask you?”

This hints at the fact my friends dont like to run dungeons all the time. I personally like dungeons. They dont. But i do enjoy running dungeons with them when they are up to it. Thing is if im wanting to run this new content and i have the gear them not having it means i can not run it with them which is one of the big things GW1 and GW2 was against. All content is ment to be viable but now they wont be able to run with me because they dont have the required items. Most of my friends are not full exotics. But that does not stop us from throwing togeather a group and running the current dungeons. With this new gear progression if they havent grinded out the gear already they will not be viable and we will not be able to run the content.

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

Thank you so much for saving GW2 by doing this Anet <3

This will most likely ruin GW2. You do realize that right? Those that want the treadmill will come back for a few days get bored and move on again. Those that dont want it will outright leave. How is that better?

A ton of people have quit the game already because of lack of PvE and/or exciting gear at end-game. I don’t see how adding end-game content could ever be a bad thing. You can put on a full set of blues and clear dungeons anyways right now. Just don’t grind new gear if that’s not your thing. Why does this pretentious “no gear grind” ideal have to be pushed onto all of us?

Because you make it so that great players that might not like to do that content daily unable to help in that content. It makes it to where you force everyone to do that content. And the majority of the player base actually does not like to do gear grind.

I’ve said it before you can NOT have gear grind in a game designed to not need gear grind.

So you just want to clear new content in one day? Where’s the fun in that?

The fun is i get to play with my friends. But if you do gear grind now i cant play with that friend because they litterally cant do the content. Where is the fun in that i ask you?

So you only can do this new dungeon with your friend? You don’t want to “waste” your time helping him getting gear? Unless you really want to play with him, so you can gather new gear together.

Thats the point your forced to grind the gear. My friend does not like dungeon’s or any simular content. The only come to this content sometimes because i ask them to because i need a spot filled. We have fun when hes there but fact is he does not enjoy doing this content all the time. With this change he is eather forced to run this all the time or we part ways and i never run with him again. That is not fun. Not fun at all.

warmonkey.8013:

SiNoS.2147:

When a game has to go F2P in order to even attempt to make it shows that infact they are dieing. Thats fact. All you keep spouting is i have no proof. Troll needs to move on. Im done feeding you.

i heard league of legends is doing just TERRIBLE, not making one dime

To my knowledge like GW LoL was always a free to play. As such it has no part in what i said.

Cisza.9540:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

Thank you so much for saving GW2 by doing this Anet <3

This will most likely ruin GW2. You do realize that right? Those that want the treadmill will come back for a few days get bored and move on again. Those that dont want it will outright leave. How is that better?

A ton of people have quit the game already because of lack of PvE and/or exciting gear at end-game. I don’t see how adding end-game content could ever be a bad thing. You can put on a full set of blues and clear dungeons anyways right now. Just don’t grind new gear if that’s not your thing. Why does this pretentious “no gear grind” ideal have to be pushed onto all of us?

Because you make it so that great players that might not like to do that content daily unable to help in that content. It makes it to where you force everyone to do that content. And the majority of the player base actually does not like to do gear grind.

I’ve said it before you can NOT have gear grind in a game designed to not need gear grind.

So you just want to clear new content in one day? Where’s the fun in that?

The fun is i get to play with my friends. But if you do gear grind now i cant play with that friend because they litterally cant do the content. Where is the fun in that i ask you?

Craiger.8579:

SiNoS.2147:

Craiger.8579:

Have I got it all wrong ???? I’ve read that this gear will only be good inside the new dungeon………. That won’t change anything outside this dungeon, you will still use your other armor outside the dungeon, and even if it’s good outside the dungeon the added power is probably minimal, like between Exotics and Legendary right now….

PLEASE STOP GOING CRAZY ! We need to learn more about this before we can judge……

Infusion slot is the only part that is dungeon only. The rest of the stats works outside of the dungeon.

Okay….. But my point still stands that the gear will probably not be better than exotics, well it’s going to be “better”, but it’s probably minimal like I said…..

And like someone said in another thread, it’s not like we can’t get to certain content without getting this gear…… We can get to all 9 parts of the dungeon with exotics or lower, it’s just that we need to get that gear for us to get to higher difficulty…. And you will get gear by doing the dungeon….

This is just a way to stop people from just getting to the “end” of the dungeon the same day it comes out, and then complain about there being no endgame…..

Its going to be the same boost or more as exotics were over rare. That wasent a little boost.

teaspoon.1357:

SiNoS.2147:

teaspoon.1357:

Thank you so much for saving GW2 by doing this Anet <3

This will most likely ruin GW2. You do realize that right? Those that want the treadmill will come back for a few days get bored and move on again. Those that dont want it will outright leave. How is that better?

A ton of people have quit the game already because of lack of PvE and/or exciting gear at end-game. I don’t see how adding end-game content could ever be a bad thing. You can put on a full set of blues and clear dungeons anyways right now. Just don’t grind new gear if that’s not your thing. Why does this pretentious “no gear grind” ideal have to be pushed onto all of us?

Because you make it so that great players that might not like to do that content daily unable to help in that content. It makes it to where you force everyone to do that content. And the majority of the player base actually does not like to do gear grind.

I’ve said it before you can NOT have gear grind in a game designed to not need gear grind.

Brutaly.6257:

SiNoS.2147:

Brutaly.6257:

SiNoS.2147:

Brutaly.6257:

Zsymon.8457:

Sword doesn’t really have a high attack speed, or else it is just my own lag problem. The third attack of the chain seems to delay almost everytime, dragging down the dps significantly. The third move in the chain also has this really narrow and bad hit detection, I never hit more than one target with it for some reason.

well considering the chain of the sword hits with three individual hits in the third step makes it extremely fast and very suited for proccs.

The reason why you hit only one target isnt a narrow hit box but that the projectiles has a narrow pattern, which btw is a good thing on a single target weapon.

It has the same hitbox as all the other weapons imo, i have never experienced any differences but you might be right, i have no facts to back that one up with.

From my experience even if all 3 crit you still only get one stack instead of 3.

True, EM has a 1 s cd that prevents that but they hit individually so it increases the chance to do a crit which increases the chance to procc. A sword chain is 5 individual attacks and the 3rd step is three hits.

The easiest way to see this is to go to the mist and see what happens when the third step has multiple crits, just check whats happening with the vigor boon. Its stacking like crazy

I actually tested it in pve as spvp and pve work differently in some area’s. In this when all 3 crit on the last hit i only see two uses of healing. One from my vigor and one from my might.

Might be different rulesets in different areas but i never seen it not proccing twice in pve, at least not vigorous precision.

Hum maybe a bug on my character. I know it procs on the first two swings but that third swing with all three critting only gives me 2 procs, one from a single vigor and one from might. Unless others are around me in which case it goes up.

Craiger.8579:

Have I got it all wrong ???? I’ve read that this gear will only be good inside the new dungeon………. That won’t change anything outside this dungeon, you will still use your other armor outside the dungeon, and even if it’s good outside the dungeon the added power is probably minimal, like between Exotics and Legendary right now….

PLEASE STOP GOING CRAZY ! We need to learn more about this before we can judge……

Infusion slot is the only part that is dungeon only. The rest of the stats works outside of the dungeon.

teaspoon.1357:

Thank you so much for saving GW2 by doing this Anet <3

This will most likely ruin GW2. You do realize that right? Those that want the treadmill will come back for a few days get bored and move on again. Those that dont want it will outright leave. How is that better?

DUAxWolff.2759:

I understand that and was going to take the results with a grain of salt.

Personally i am surprised by the number of people excited about this content.

Its about 5% more than i figured. Figured that group normally is in the 10-15% area. Currently there around 15-20%

Blissified.8369:

You people get a grip, their adding another teir, so what? You have to do dungeons to get dungeon gear now dont you? I doub’t their going to make it as hard as legendairys to get its probably going to be between exotic and legendary. Don’t want to get it? Then don’t. This is why i don’t play mmo’s the playerbase is full of qq babys,

• **************IM NOT* saying anet made the right move here, but IM NOT saying they made the WRONG move here UNTIL WE SEE HOW IT FULLY WORKS******************

The thing is you dont, i repeat DONT have to do dungeons to get gear just as good. You do them to get the skin. With this change this new dungeon will be the only way to get those stats. Which makes friends that might not normally do dungeons be of 0 help should they be nice enough to come along if your a man short. Currently there atleast of use because they can get the same level of gear in other ways.

Brutaly.6257:

SiNoS.2147:

Brutaly.6257:

Zsymon.8457:

Sword doesn’t really have a high attack speed, or else it is just my own lag problem. The third attack of the chain seems to delay almost everytime, dragging down the dps significantly. The third move in the chain also has this really narrow and bad hit detection, I never hit more than one target with it for some reason.

well considering the chain of the sword hits with three individual hits in the third step makes it extremely fast and very suited for proccs.

The reason why you hit only one target isnt a narrow hit box but that the projectiles has a narrow pattern, which btw is a good thing on a single target weapon.

It has the same hitbox as all the other weapons imo, i have never experienced any differences but you might be right, i have no facts to back that one up with.

From my experience even if all 3 crit you still only get one stack instead of 3.

True, EM has a 1 s cd that prevents that but they hit individually so it increases the chance to do a crit which increases the chance to procc. A sword chain is 5 individual attacks and the 3rd step is three hits.

The easiest way to see this is to go to the mist and see what happens when the third step has multiple crits, just check whats happening with the vigor boon. Its stacking like crazy

I actually tested it in pve as spvp and pve work differently in some area’s. In this when all 3 crit on the last hit i only see two uses of healing. One from my vigor and one from my might.

SteepledHat.1345:

Was there a gear grind in GW1?

There was not.

Oreoz.2573:

lets be real here folks.

the majority of you that said you aren’t gonna play anymore………………….are gonna play. cmon now. You will. It’s a free game.

As is GW1 and if they add gear progression i will be going back to it as that will be the better game.

Johnson.3874:

Ascended items will have the same stats as exotic. The difference will be an additional slot, which will force players to buy Fine Transmutation stone to keep their current skin/stats and get the new slots.
This way, Anet doesn’t change anything to the gear situation, and at the same time they force players to buy from their shop if they want to keep up with this new feature. We’re gonna probably see new gems/runes, or special upgrade component that goes into that slot.

Mark my words.

@Agemnon : Your legendary weapon is just a skin. A skin is never gonna be outdated. If you crafted it for the stats only… well… herm.

@SteepledHat : This is not WoW, this is just like another MMO. The endless cycle of lif… hu, I mean, of gearing. And if you played any other RPG in your life, you know that there always is something “better” to chase. After all, that’s the point.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

Might want to read that dev post then come back to change your responce after it sinks in.

Arnath.2319:

The childish rants from the majority of you immature children can be summed up like this:

“I dont like gear treadmills and even tho Arenanet are not implementing a gear treadmill and have not once ever suggested that they will introduce a gear treadmill i am going to shout and scream in fear that someday they will introduce a gear treadmill despite no evidence suggesting so”

Ascended items are not a gear treadmill, people are complaining because this could lead to a gear treadmill even tho Arenanet has never suggested and has on many suggested shared there own disgust with gear treadmills.

Grow up all of you.

You might want to read “The Future of Items Progression” in:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

Incase you cant read ill break it down.

“This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content.”

Ok so they are starting an item progression, more commonly known as gear treadmill, that will have different levels of equipment.

That one bit there verifies that they are not only thinking about it but already have it planned out.

I would have no issue if they brought in infusion like it was in the original game. As it sets this kill’s the game for me and will drive me away from this game. The whole point of this game was if i want to run this content i can but if my friends need help in other area’s i wouldent be useless to them just because i dident grind x gear. This kill’s that and forces me to run this content leaving behind the other content in order to still be of use.

Being a long time fan i am ashamed to say i am a loyal fan of gw and sadly will return to it should this game go this path.

Taemek.1602:

SiNoS.2147:

Taemek.1602:

SiNoS.2147:

This should have just been brought into the game like infusion was in the first game with being able to add the infusion to your currently existing exotics without raising the stat level. As it sets they are just going to ruin there game as the only game to thrive on the treadmill has been WoW. Every other game has crashed and burned when these changes have started.

Very bland and blanket based statements based upon what proof?

Just about every other game that has crashed and burned is still running, with minimal population and this, could just as well been planned in thier forcast for the games life span.

The question people like yourself needs to ask is, how many people are gaming companies willing to cater too before they pull the plug on the servers? This we will never know, but if a game is still floating and releasing content, clearly, they are not crashing and burning.

On top of this, no, that game you mention which we will not speak of is not the only game to thrive on a gear grind treadmill, many are still thriving on it and are still releasing content.

The failure is, people like yourself who only choose to compaire everything to that mmorpg. That is the only problem.

Going from a player base well over 1 million to maybe 200000 if there lucky thats crashing and crashing hard. Frankly those other games are not thriving. They are shell’s of them former self’s. Rift crashed and burned because they followed that trend. SWTOR crashed because they followed that trend. Those are two of the biggest games in the last 2-3 years and both flopped when they catered to this mind set. As for your claim of people like me you clearly dont know anything about me.

Again, you have no proof and that is entirely your own opinion.

One of those games is about to launch an expansion, so clearly, it hasn’t crashed and burned and again, I point out to you, you have no idea on what kind of population they can cater too before pulling the plug.

200’000 subs is quite good for today’s age and as long as they are making money, who cares?

My opinion on the game in question is quite different to yours, but I won’t go there.

When a game has to go F2P in order to even attempt to make it shows that infact they are dieing. Thats fact. All you keep spouting is i have no proof. Troll needs to move on. Im done feeding you.

Taemek.1602:

SiNoS.2147:

Taemek.1602:

Lost Shores dictates otherwise.

I think there is enough threads about this topic already, there does not need to be a negative demoralizing thread generated again.

Clearly it does as A-Net has abandoned there moral’s to please a very loud minority of the population. Maybe they will listen if we get just as loud.

Again, you have no proof, and even if A-net did once upon a time promise no gear grind treadmill type character based progression, the fact that they have changed thier minds tells me that the crowd they are attempting to appease to is a little bit more then the minority you claim it to be.

Buisnesses, let me correct that, multi-million dollar industries do not make knee jerk reactions based on minority out breaks without proven data to support it is a majority and has the potential to earn dollars.

They also obviously dont follow trends. All games that catered to this minority, except one, has ended up losing most of its player base because of it.

Taemek.1602:

SiNoS.2147:

This should have just been brought into the game like infusion was in the first game with being able to add the infusion to your currently existing exotics without raising the stat level. As it sets they are just going to ruin there game as the only game to thrive on the treadmill has been WoW. Every other game has crashed and burned when these changes have started.

Very bland and blanket based statements based upon what proof?

Just about every other game that has crashed and burned is still running, with minimal population and this, could just as well been planned in thier forcast for the games life span.

The question people like yourself needs to ask is, how many people are gaming companies willing to cater too before they pull the plug on the servers? This we will never know, but if a game is still floating and releasing content, clearly, they are not crashing and burning.

On top of this, no, that game you mention which we will not speak of is not the only game to thrive on a gear grind treadmill, many are still thriving on it and are still releasing content.

The failure is, people like yourself who only choose to compaire everything to that mmorpg. That is the only problem.

Going from a player base well over 1 million to maybe 200000 if there lucky thats crashing and crashing hard. Frankly those other games are not thriving. They are shell’s of them former self’s. Rift crashed and burned because they followed that trend. SWTOR crashed because they followed that trend. Those are two of the biggest games in the last 2-3 years and both flopped when they catered to this mind set. As for your claim of people like me you clearly dont know anything about me.

Taemek.1602:

Lost Shores dictates otherwise.

I think there is enough threads about this topic already, there does not need to be a negative demoralizing thread generated again.

Clearly it does as A-Net has abandoned there moral’s to please a very loud minority of the population. Maybe they will listen if we get just as loud.

This should have just been brought into the game like infusion was in the first game with being able to add the infusion to your currently existing exotics without raising the stat level. As it sets they are just going to ruin there game as the only game to thrive on the treadmill has been WoW. Every other game has crashed and burned when these changes have started.

Well they just ruined the game. This will lead to RIFT/SWTOR style of game. They caved to the WoW style players and ruined the game.

takaos.6409:

Where is the guild wars in this game and also wvw , guild ,server ranking system must add.
When a guild take over storm mist for example anounce to all server and 1 day or1 week other players cant attack it so we can upradge there.There is no point to upradge it if others can capture after you leave world versus world.
Why everyone 80 level in world versus world this is not fair
Other things
Housing
Guild housing

Crafting
Fishing

You dident play the first game did you? Otherwise you would know thats not where the name guildwars comes from.

Antiriad.7160:

Oh god, here goes my reason why I played gw2 (to play PvP and not worry about having to re-grind for item sets over and over). Also, thanks for making all the saved up money I just spent on exotics TRUSTING IN YOUR STATEMENTS, ARENANET, useless soon. Whatever the next thing is you develope and want money for, you will have to do without mine.

You dont even know how there going to bring this feature into the game. Best to cool down till some info is actually released.

Brutaly.6257:

Zsymon.8457:

Sword doesn’t really have a high attack speed, or else it is just my own lag problem. The third attack of the chain seems to delay almost everytime, dragging down the dps significantly. The third move in the chain also has this really narrow and bad hit detection, I never hit more than one target with it for some reason.

well considering the chain of the sword hits with three individual hits in the third step makes it extremely fast and very suited for proccs.

The reason why you hit only one target isnt a narrow hit box but that the projectiles has a narrow pattern, which btw is a good thing on a single target weapon.

It has the same hitbox as all the other weapons imo, i have never experienced any differences but you might be right, i have no facts to back that one up with.

From my experience even if all 3 crit you still only get one stack instead of 3.

fixit.7189:

This is not a good thing for Wv3, it will mean if you dont have this gear: you are dead meat. Also if you don’t have this gear; you will not be getting invites to dungeon runs due to the elitist PvEers.

“LF2m X dungeon; must link/show Ascended gear!”

Great, thanks Anet.

Ascended gear means that this game suddenly becomes just like every other MMO out there with their gear tread mills which ANet told us is not how they wanted this game to be. I guess they decided to throw that stance right out the window….

It really just depends on how its launched. If its like the infused armor from gw1 then it will have 0 effect in any content that does not have the mobs its designed for.

Aeolus.3615:

How much healing power?

Most likely only what they get from traits.

Gruntsvig.3784:

Hey I appreciate the info as I now don’t have to wasted all that time chasing just a better look….I actually agree as if you are doing that much work to get something at least tell everybody what they are getting instead of not telling them?..Information, not secrets is what makes a better life and the pursuit of happiness?

This information wasent hidden. It was well known before the game launched. I actually beleave a dev was the one who told us this saying that exotic gear would be the best stat wise in the game.

ReverantSpark.7309:

Cloud.7613:

GW2 is about getting skins, not getting items that make you more powerful then the next guy. It’s a fairer system. Besides, I have a legendary, what else am I going to spend my gold on? Nice sword design though.

Realy? Ive always thought one of the key aspects of any type of RPG was the “quest for power.”
It just seemed strange to me that you have tiers of weapons that improve stat wise as they ascend, masterwork being better than fine, rare being better than masterwork…
It seemed crazy to me that the final tier that is so difficult to get was just the same as the tier below it.
I guess I just misunderstood what the whole concept of what a legendary weapon was then, not a final tier, but a status/aesthetic thing.
And thanks, glad you like the sword design. Ive been seeking out custom sword makers to actually have one made lol :P
But its pretty pricey due to the fact I wont even consider owning a sword unless its a genuine functional piece. Otherwise it isnt a sword imo. So Ive been having second thoughts.

GW has always been about making max level gear easily available to the players. The main point of gear isent stats but instead about aesthetics

Alnear Leavar.7453:

Quick question:

Any way to increase movement speed for exploring on map? Currently I play a thief on PvE and I like to be fast in going from point A to point B.

In general between retreat, save yourselfs, and staff symbol you can keep 33% run speed up without boon duration rune’s. With runes it makes it that much easier.

At 35 your not going to be able to “tank”. You wont have access to the gear/traits it takes to pull that off. Your best best is to build with some toughness and vitality so you can survive as long as possible then build for support.

For those wanting to know what face they used you do realize you can customize your face right? Along with about any other part of your character. The presets are just to give you a base to work with.

Traveler’s is not a craftable set. The craftable MF set is explorer’s.

DivineBeing.2086:

@Sinos
No problem. I am glad we are on the same page now.

Ya i dident realize you wanted ANet to actually add a feature into there game that would handle this. I thought you wanted them to enable there logs client side so that we could use 3rd party programs to parse them.

Thing what had me on the other thought is i was reading somewhere about people wanting a program simular to recount. Although that might have been in the thread where a dev explained how there logging works and about the different teams they have working to go threw all the different logs. Hard to keep that stuff straight when i see the same threads over and over again.

Your stats look fine. What are you aiming for?