Guild Wars 2

Cynz.9437:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Cynz.9437:

Waang.6803, TripleGt.7501, Topher.5631, twhite.9310, Ross Biddle.2367 why don’t you all form a team with OP :P

Cause he’s looking for a pro league team, not the Harlem Globetrotters of GW2.

I don’t think existing pro league teams want thieves :P

And even if they wanted the list would probably contain only players like Toker, Caed, Levin and Sindrener.

kitten .. Hit me right in the feels d00d

Thief main – LF AG or Proleague team. Will sub. Have credentials and stream occasionally. HMU

If druid was left alone, meta would be perfect right now. Revert druid patch buffs and give warriors a bit more so everyone can play their classes happily! Game will be great. That is all.

Hey forums,
After much theory-crafting and testing, I have finally made a thief build that can last in the current meta state. I will explain the main changes and reasoning behind certain trait/sigil/weapon choices and what makes this thief build currently the most fluent build in HoT.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVl0MhSnY3Tw8Jw/ELIFlXOcD9AXDEALwc7f/7PA-TZBFABiXGI+9Ha7IAswpAAgHAAA
TRAIT LINES
The trait lines are an obvious question for most people when viewing the spec. As I was testing this build with friends, I was often asked why take Shadow Arts (SA) traitline over Deadly Arts (DA), which is the current thief meta. While DA offers so so so much (mug, panic strike, and improv/executioner), SA is a much better choice while running Dare Devil (DD). The reason being this: DD + SA essentially gives you infinite mugs (stealth regen and pulmonary strike), while giving you so much sustain. Though, you do lose the weakness on poison. Fortunately, you can easily swap out DD first trait from the 7% increased damage to the weakness every 10seconds for 5seconds based on team comps you go against. With SA you also conserve a lot more initiative and dodges (because steals give you stealth, which is essential in almost any situation). A conservative thief is a good thief. Finally, while improv is beyond good, you are never guaranteed a good proc from it. That being said, relying on improv is never a viable option.
WEAPONS
D/P – Obvious choice for headshot (pulmonary strike synergy) and stealth.
Shortbow – Rotations/survivability/godtier
*Nothing else really works well with this, so D/P SB will always be your weapon set.
SIGILS AND RUNES
D/P – air/energy
SB – Generosity/energy
Daredevil Runes – Constant crits
*Double energy for the extra DD rune crits. You can swap out D/P energy for almost blood/fire/rage.
This build is far superior to the current interrupt thief, so good luck!

Hey forums,

After much theory-crafting and testing, I have finally made a thief build that can last in the current meta state. I will explain the main changes and reasoning behind certain trait/sigil/weapon choices and what makes this thief build currently the most fluent build in HoT.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVl0MhSnY3Tw8Jw/ELIFlXOcD9AXDEALwc7f/7PA-TZBFABiXGI+9Ha7IAswpAAgHAAA

TRAIT LINES

The trait lines are an obvious question for most people when viewing the spec. As I was testing this build with friends, I was often asked why take Shadow Arts (SA) traitline over Deadly Arts (DA), which is the current thief meta. While DA offers so so so much (mug, panic strike, and improv/executioner), SA is a much better choice while running Dare Devil (DD). The reason being this: DD + SA essentially gives you infinite mugs (stealth regen and pulmonary strike), while giving you so much sustain. Though, you do lose the weakness on poison. Fortunately, you can easily swap out DD first trait from the 7% increased damage to the weakness every 10seconds for 5seconds based on team comps you go against. With SA you also conserve a lot more initiative and dodges (because steals give you stealth, which is essential in almost any situation). A conservative thief is a good thief. Finally, while improv is beyond good, you are never guaranteed a good proc from it. That being said, relying on improv is never a viable option.

WEAPONS

D/P – Obvious choice for headshot (pulmonary strike synergy) and stealth.
Shortbow – Rotations/survivability/godtier

*Nothing else really works well with this, so D/P SB will always be your weapon set.

SIGILS AND RUNES

D/P – air/energy
SB – Generosity/energy
Daredevil Runes – Constant crits

*Double energy for the extra DD rune crits. You can swap out D/P energy for blood/fire/rage.

This build is far superior to the current interrupt thief, so good luck!

Yeah I agree with what you’ve said. As I stated, just thinking about it, 3v3 seemed to me to potentially work the best. Not opposed at all to a 2v2 arena though if it was the only option/majority vote.

It’s simple. Every successful MMORPG that has a semi-decent esports scene has 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 battle-to-the-death arenas. Just look at WoW. It has a standardized MMO combat system that was created in 2001 and hasn’t changed since, and yet, it still has the biggest PvP scene out of all MMOs. A 3v3 Ranked/Unranked arena minigame could save this game, and help inspire more people to participate in PvP. I say 3v3 only because with downstate, 2v2 wouldn’t really work (cheese double rez specs, 2 hard to rez with 2 cleaving and only 1 rezzing, ect) and 4v4+ would just turn into too long of a thing with most likely more cheese comps. 3v3 arenas seem ideal for GW2 and it’s combat system and would (in my mind) be the most balanced.

Simple change that could be a huge game breaker. Feel free to post your opinions.

With the last WTS came a lot of zerk comps. We have seen a shift from a celestrial based meta to more of a mixed meta which involves nearly every type of gameplay. Before this WTS we mostly only saw celestrial based teams with 1 (rarely 2) or even less zerks per team. Now it is quite common to see 3 and even 4 zerks on a team. This is great, and a zerk meta to me personally is a lot more entertaining to play against/with and watch.

I’m stating this because now, nearly every class has a vaiable zerk build that works well. The one I believe lacks the most is the warrior. Yes, we have the ability to be zerk, but we lack what other zerk classes have, too – whether that be sustain or damage that has a very low chance of being dealt (eviserate, hammer (blinds counter ez), and hundred blades inability to move). And that’s what I’m getting at. Hundred blades. It is an amazing damage dealing skill, yet very underpowered because of it’s inability to move. In comparison, this skill is just as strong as rapid fire on the ranger, with the same CD time. Yet, the rapid fire on ranger can be traited to over 1500 range and movable, while hundred blades is 130 range and stationary. The Balance you ask? There isn’t any.

My suggestion with this forum is a simple one: allow movement while channeling Hundred Blades. This would greatly help the zerk warrior become more of a thing, and would help it keep up to par with the other classes in team fights. This is a tremendously small change, and if anyone anywhere ever has played warrior, they know this is definitely not game breaking. It would, simply put, make balance. As I stated just shortly before, rangers have Rapid Fire which is 8 seconds CD and 1500 range when traited with movement allowed. Hundred Blades deals nearly the same damage. Why shouldn’t the 130 range skill be allowed to move while channeling?

1v1, 2v2, and 3v3 arenas for ranked or for fun would be game breaking for the pvp scene. Just look at WoW’s pvp population. And it’s combat is kitten.

I read this post drunk and had to stroke my duck after reading. This novel was better than my first rodeo.

Hasn’t it been out for like, less than 6 hours? How on earth would you know the classes/specs are overpowered yet? Maybe you got qued against the Best Engi, S/D thief, or Power Ranger in the game by chance and they’re actually weak on this map? Man, some people are so quick to QQ it literally burns my eyes.

P.S. Writing that something is OP with nothing else to follow up with will never be taken seriously. Try using your observations and telling the community/devs what you think should be done about these “overpowered” classes/specs on this map. When you open and finish this forum post with just “QQ they’re overpowered it’s been 6 hours and plz nerf,” you’re just asking for E-drama more than a 12 year old girl on Facebook.

Man oh man, in the days that this game actually meant something to me and felt rewarding…

I will forever charish my DD thief backstab build, was love at first 1shot <3

Yeah man, Anet’s mindset is kittened. We’ve all known and witnessed that over the last 2 years. Honestly, they’re kinda a one-sided company. It’s apparent they don’t care what their players think as far as balance. We witness that every week as they add more and more items/skins (that take a lot of time to design, trim, fit to each race, ect) into their precious gem-store cash cow, but we haven’t seen builds/amulets that have been imbalanced for well over 6 months shaved even slightly? Tells you something about the company right there.. I’ve given up on complaining and learning how to just take the D. This isn’t Guild Wars 2 anymore, it’s prison. You’re stuck in it and you just keep getting the D. We’re basically the white businessman who got sent into the pen for fraud, and Anet is Big Bubba.

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Definitely the combat. No other MMO out there has such a fluent feeling.

Honestly man, you insulted the guy (most likely in unranked) and expected him not to get upset? I mean come on dude… This post isn’t even worth posting because the answer is right in your screenshot. Yeah something should be done about deserters, but if you’re requesting that then something should be done about BM as well.

Hello forums, I come here today in search of some experienced PvPer’s suggestions on a new class. I have played almost every class in this game with at least 500 pvp games on them all (excluding ele/ranger). But with nearly every experienced player testing new classes/builds because of the show at the most recent WTS, I was wondering what your guys opinions are on what classes will make or break the meta when the new expansion hits, and what would be the smartest class to pick up. What classes do you personally believe will still be playable at a competitive level with the new OP revenants coming into the scene? My personal opinion is that we’ll see a lot of heavy armor comps hitting the stage (shoutbow, medi guard, revenant).

So, feel free to give me your personal opinions on what you believe will be making and breaking the PvP meta. Of course, all positive feedback is greatly appreciated!

Simple and obvious answer: You’re rank 15 on LBs right now. Yes, you might not be good, but the game is going to register you as a great player because of your rank… Either stop playing so much to go against worse players, or stop QQing and get gud.

Nuff said.

Couldn’t the same type of situation apply for thief as well if you choose to nerf it’s stealth yet again? You think thief should destealth when it attacks, even if it doesn’t proc, but why can anything have a continued channel skill on thief once it’s stealthed (s/f ele autos for example)?

If you nerf, you must buff.

Honestly, full premades that do unranked are either really bad and realize it or are a group of PvE’rs/casual friends who don’t take the game seriously.

Either way, most of the time full premades in unranked are terribad and can be easily beaten by pug groups.. Don’t be intimidated by them.

My heart hurts by how new the OP actually is… And even more so by the comments saying thieves and mesmers are unbalanced cuz burst.. I think I mi… Yea… It’s…

I flat-lined. The scrublordness is strong in this one.

RIP

I personally que both, but there are several reasons for my choosings. The most important are:

1. Que times in unranked at certain times are far quicker than ranked. (Literally a difference of 10-15 minutes sometimes, which I’m not waiting 15 minutes for 1 match.)
2. New player friends from guilds, irl, twitch followers, or simply friends of friends who have no experience in PvP that I’d like to play with cant keep up with the ranked PvPers. Why play ranked with them?
3. Trying a new class/spec. If I’m not playing a class/spec I’m comfortable with going against other teams, I go pug unranked.

There are many reasons for experienced players to go unranked, and I’ve just named a few of my own personal reasons. Sorry if you don’t like the system, but honestly, playing against better players will make you better in the long run, even if your W/L suffers in the mean time.

You literally stole this post from Teef Teef Teef Teef and added your own variant. I love it.

There’s a thing called revealed for thieves. After you leave stealth, you cannot reapply stealth for 6 seconds. This is displayed by a countdown icon that is an eye that blinks where your boons/conditions are shown. When this symbol is up, you cannot re-stealth for it’s duration.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Next-Game-Build-Update

Either they listened to this post and everyone else who disagreed, or they realized on their own how stupid the port nerf woulda been! BAMMMM kitteners

Inb4 mesmer clones are removed

Lordrosicky.5813:

Highlie.7641:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Too good to be true. Errors will be made imo and they will do someting stupid. Usually when they do deserved nerfs which change the game they screw it up by “compensating” with massive buffs. Like when they tried to nerf initative and in fact buffed it massively.

Are you drunk?
It was a MINOR buff to one wpn set (p/d), the rest where nerfs do try to get your facts in order before screaming teefs OP,

And you wonder why there are only a handful of “top teams” Why bother learning basic mechanics when you can alt tab post backhanded comments and have arena net carry you to victory.

Bro, how can you moan about balance as a thief. Even if thief was made to be average (doubtful) then you have still had 3 yrs as probably always one of the best classes. At no point have teams not wanted thieves. Give some other classes a chance to be op for once and if you are good u will make ur class work no matter what

Wut? Thieves have never been OP, thats why the class has the most noticeable bads. Yes most TOP teams have thieves, because it’s high skill cap against other high skill capped players is good, but it takes a LONG time to become a thief that top players would even consider.. Nothing about thief is OP.

Firebird.8324:

Also, recall that these teleport spots are buggy to begin with and only accessible to a few classes, this Gives the classes an unfair advantage that they Should not have.

BECAUSE EVERYTHING WITHOUT THESE PORTS IS SUSTAINABLE.

But I give up now, this post is full of bads who have 10 hours in PvP and think they know everything. kitten it.

SlothBear.9846:

Finally, the era of mesmer dominance will come to an end.

You must still be in GW2 Beta. It’s been Celestrial dominance for the last year son.

Firebird.8324:

Bertrand.3057:

Firebird.8324:

That would be awesome, I think those port spots are bullkitten anyways

Firebird.8324:

This would be a really, really awesome change.

Broken record much?

Yes, these port spots give an advantage to thieves and mesmers, but it’s an advantage they really really need in a game mode where everything else has far more sustain and rangers outdo them for damage while popping their 2k range auto attack from a ledge.

you know why you don’t see rangers in high level pvp (with the exception of eurantian)? This because being on a ledge is MEANINGLESS against teams that can port there, you know how that ranger got there? HE WALKED. You know when a ranger shortbows from there, he teled, you get my drift

BECAUSE THEY HAVE 2K RANGE AND HIGHER DAMAGE. Holy kitten….

Please don’t post on this forum page anymore if you don’t have experience in PvP. ^

A lot of the streamers today have been saying that most of the current port spots for thieves/mesmers will be unavailable after tomorrow’s patch. What is the intent of ruining port spots? Does Anet not want Mesmer or Thieves to be played at all? There already the weakest classes for PvP, and their nerfs just keep on coming..

Metabattle.com should list all Meta and Excellent builds under the PvP section. ShoutBow Warrior is listed under Meta.

Exactly. If a ranger rapid fires as a thief SRs then hes automatically dead like 90% of the time because of the channel..

But hey, maybe if we post positively on this and agree Anet might see it and think about it..

Channeling while stealthed is one of the most annoying things. I understand what a channeled skill is (I have been playing MMOs for 10 years), but the whole point of a thief’s stealth mechanism is survival and to not be killed. So shouldn’t channeled spells stop once a thief is invisible? (SF ele auto attack, ranger auto/rapid fire, ect.)

I think this needs a change – doesn’t seem logical.

I’m a noob……………………….

My game crashes 3-5 times a day with a great new system that cost me nearly $1600. I’ve installed all the drivers, did all the window’s updates, and I run the game in best performance except for sub sampling at Native for better overall visuals.
I7 processor,
Processor: Intel i7-4770k
RAM: 16GB DDR3
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB WINDFORCE
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W
Operating System: Windows 8.1

This is the error message I’m receiving:

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 2/2/2015 2:26:07 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: LogansPC
Description:
Faulting application name: Gw2.exe, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0×54c973fe
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17476, time stamp: 0×54516af9
Exception code: 0xc0000374
Fault offset: 0×000e5be4
Faulting process id: 0×2c24
Faulting application start time: 0×01d03ec89b59dec4
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Guild Wars 2\Gw2.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: 555ce025-ab11-11e4-8260-74d4351ce476
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns=“http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event”>
<System>
<Provider Name=“Application Error” />
<EventID Qualifiers=“0”>1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0×80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime=“2015-02-02T19:26:07.000000000Z” />
<EventRecordID>2307</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>LogansPC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>Gw2.exe</Data>
<Data>1.0.0.1</Data>
<Data>54c973fe</Data>
<Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
<Data>6.3.9600.17476</Data>
<Data>54516af9</Data>
<Data>c0000374</Data>
<Data>000e5be4</Data>
<Data>2c24</Data>
<Data>01d03ec89b59dec4</Data>
<Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Guild Wars 2\Gw2.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll</Data>
<Data>555ce025-ab11-11e4-8260-74d4351ce476</Data>
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ANY IDEAS??

PvP for players that are newer is only level 20 requirement. And from there everyone is equal in terms of gear because its all based on amulets, runes, and sigils (which are given to players for copper by NPCs). I’d recommend grouping up and doing some unranked, though they might not have much fun there either because it is a competitive scene and there are a lot of experienced PvPers.

I just made a new computer a few days ago, the specs are:
Processor: Intel i7-4770k
RAM: 16GB DDR3
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB WINDFORCE
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W
Operating System: Windows 8.1

This system ran me a little under $1600, and I got it for the purpose of streaming and playing games in max settings while doing so.

I’m getting 20-25 FPS continously on medium settings on GW2, and like 16-20 FPS on max.. I talked to my IRL about this who has an almost identical system to mine and he doesn’t know what it is without looking at it, but we’re both pretty busy with IRL stuff to meet up. Does anyone know what this could be? I installed all the drivers to everything and got all the Windows Updates, ect. so I have no idea what’s causing this.

The one thing I can say is I’m using a relatively old Monitor (720p). Which I assumed had a bit to do with it, but wouldn’t cause the frames to be 20- (was expecting atleast 45). Maybe I’m wrong though. Any Advice would be wonderful!

Hello, I have recently decided I want to try out WvW for the first time ever. I have never PvE’d past level 30 (which I did within the first week of game launch) and I don’t know anything about gear. My 2k+ game hours are all from PvP, so I am basically a PvE noob. Can anyone give me the gear name/rings/amulets/whatever else you use for endgame WvW for a terrormancer? I’m standard 0 6 4 0 4 staff and scepter/dagger. I also have about 100g that I wouldn’t mind spending on this. Thanks for any help!

Honestly, the increased precision it would get would be really beneficial to the trait, and wouldn’t make it overpowered. Good suggestion, I’d like to see this used more effectively in the PvP scenario personally. I second this.

Ok while we’re on the topic of nerf wish lists.. Can we handle the substain cele DD ele has or the overpoweredness condi engis have had since game launch? I think these should be more heavily focused than the thief nerfs…

lelelele bad warriors make me lululul

@Pockethole,

Adding to what Jana said, which is all correct, you’ll find eventually when you do WvW or PvP Headshot is actually one of your most valuable of D/P skills when used correctly. It can interrupt heals, rezzes, stealths, and a whole other range of abilities that will give you the upper hand. In PvE though, it serves little purpose. But I am not PvE expert, so don’t take my full word on that part.

I’m just here to suggest the simple increase of the thief’s downed skill Smoke Bomb. The skill currently gives us 1 second of stealth, which compared to other classes downed skills this isn’t nearly good enough. I’m simply recommending increasing this stealth to 2-3 seconds instead. This would would have significant benefits for thief players alike, and it would help thieves compete with other classes downed state skills. If you support this, please post!

Thief is probably the most notable class there is in GW2 where a class’ potential is solely based on the player’s skill. You can’t really say “thief’s overall” because a really good thief can beat anyone/anything, while an average/bad thief can’t really benefit anyone in PvE, PvP, or WvW. Unlike Eles and Warriors, this class takes a lot of practice to become proficient in. And when I say a lot of practice, I’m talking 250hrs+ to become semi-decent, and that’s if the player is naturally good. So there isn’t really a good answer for your question.

I main thief and I strongly suggest not doing this. We don’t need any more S/D thieves.. It’s near perma evade is already OP as is. If you want to talk about buffs though for thieves, change Death Blossom on Dagger so D/D is actually viable in PvP. That would be a lot more beneficial to the class than buffing sword.

I only play my warrior when I’m bored of trying on thief. I come on the warrior for the luls, so with that being said, can someone link me a solo Q carry build? I don’t care how cheese, I just want wins on my warrior. Thanks!

I’ve had issues with this too but I’ve gotten use to it because I know Anet is more focused on the cash shop than fixing simple things like this. I join the 1v1 servers a lot in pvp while i wait in que and its extremely frustrating to get a pop in the middle of a duel because like you said, if you click wait it triggers a few seconds later. Oh well..

Which one would you guys use for tournament play with a group? Terrormancer is considered meta on metabattle.com but Dhuumfire is considered great (a small step below meta on that site). Which one do you guys prefer? I don’t care about “cancer”, just want the stronger of the two specs for wins. If you answer please also let me know why you chose X over Y and vise versa please!

Just a Question about the Grand Master Trait in Defense, Defy Pain. If I use Endure Pain (Utility skill) as well as this Grand Master Trait, can their ability durations stack? I know Endure Pain has a 60sec CD but was just wondering if I pop Endure Pain at say 35% health and I get taken down to 25% 2 seconds later, will the Defy Pain trait stack the remanding 3sec on my Utility Endure Pain? Making me have Endure pain for 8sec? Or Does it overlap the existing time and bring it back up to 5sec? Or does it just remain at 3sec because it has a 60sec cooldown?

Answering this would be beneficial to know when to properly use my utility based on health. Thanks!