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Also I will like to add that with the removal of culling why do you run with commander tags. There is no need to if your running a guild raid.

Offski the guy you quoted is not a member of VcY. Only five people from VcY have posted here. Pukknub, Snowfang, Either, Song and myself. Our post have been constructive, observational and some tongue in cheek. We don’t make the habit of flaming guilds or servers because it gives us a bad name and believe it or not that matters to us. Sure some tempers get frayed and things are said but everyone does that at some point. Reason for this is because our guys get heavily invested in WvW. We have fun every now and then but when kitten hits the fan we are seroius and get to business.

Also why is it that when we try to lose we have the most fun and why is it so hard to lose! Focus SFR kittenit!

Witzard.6829:

Sird.4536:

Can VS please come back to Bay on VS BL we are waiting here for over 10 min. We do not want our MF, karma, and exp buff to expire. Thank You

And that boat thing was awesome.

You seem to forget the SFR farm that happened for about an hour on VS BL this afternoon, when we surrounded your spawn with ballistas, before entering in various contests, including who could run the furthest in your camp before getting instakilled

Difference is you had your whole zone in bay and failed so badly we could not stop laughing. Not once but twice. I will have a video up soon of that.

Can VS please come back to Bay on VS BL we are waiting here for over 10 min. We do not want our MF, karma, and exp buff to expire. Thank You

And that boat thing was awesome.

hazygin.1342:

Free transfers are only a conveniently timed excuse used by SFR for why they dropped from the top. Maybe it was getting too much anyway. They would have eventually burnt out or egos imploded like BT before. Exactly how many pugs moved to SFR? I’d be willing to bet not as many as they cry out to be. It was the exit strategy that those bandwagon guilds wanted.

If Desolation had free transfers, they would have cooperated with more players and become a stronger server, instead of their WvW guilds deserting. Desolation plays for fun and hasn’t burnt out because it was never a bandwagon server pushing for #1, even if guilds moved there at different times.

Keep thinking that

Lol are you kidding me. A kid who has never been in SFR seems to know hiw we worked. So tell me how were we able to hold second place in T1 and push VS close in all match ups wirh out a night crew or how did we beat PS that these guilds came from.

Axle.5182:

Mortix.9725:

Papawan.1952:

SFR couldn’t win without PRX back then, and couldn’t win without bandwagon guilds now. Your server is the type to collapse if you don’t have a chance of winning.

RUIN is insignificant history – Deso climbed back to T1 without them and have stayed here consistently.

you wanna talk about bandwagoning after votf,gh,afterlife and the others joined your server? don’t feel atleast bit stupid?
your server will be remembered as THE server who got most silver and bronze medals,as long as VZ is in T1 you will never ever win,you do understand that?
you can take some comfort in SFR being bellow you atm ,but our 8 gold medals is something you can only dream about. even if we drop to T8 lol (which will never happen no matter how much you wish for it )

That comment is hardly comparable those that hopped onto SFR in one week where 4 full 20-30+ man raids the most competitive guilds of Piken square and more than capable of drastically turning the tide of battle on their own compared to one 15 man raid in the same week to deso Afterlife, the proof SFR shot clean out of tier 2 and to the top of tier 1 in a very short time frame, the reason Viz is back is not because they even left more so the piken guilds that have now gone are not there to keep the pressure up and the remainder of SFR no longer blessed with a surplus of large organised guilds to keep viz and deso on the back foot on multiple bl’s.

Cherish your medals but please don’t gloat we all know that any EU servers will always follow the path of Blacktide and enjoy short lived success due to migration and stacking ever changing guilds that dilute the established community causing eventually internal drama etc.

That is a huge insult to SFR.

SFR was in t1 competing hard well before these guilds joined. VcY, OSC, NoE, ZDs, Rise, iddq, RiOT would all bring 30 odd people and on different bl. We were supported by CoN, EXT, BOOM, WT, uPT, BG. We had a solid 2nd place established and tge only thing missing was a night crew. PRX filled this void.

We thrn dropped into t2 where we faced a server that had the same coverage as we did, Piken Square. We both had Russian, strong prime time and some night crew (PS more so because of siN). And what happened? We faced your guilds including BOON, ECL, RG and siN and our wins were pretty convincing. These guilds then joined us and strengthened the coverage we already had and gave us some in our gaps. They are nit the sole reason why SFR won 5 weeks straight. They foundation was set long before they joined.

Don’t get me wrong it eas a pleasure playing with BOON, ECL and RG. But for me im going to misd the guilds that made SFR what it was OSC, WT (FIRE), NoE and others that may leave.

KabaL.6217:

It’s a WvW games, that’s means it’s 24o24.
Some SFR’s players start whinning about free transfers but this is what we got on Vizunah Server since the beginning. On prime time, if you do not go “afk-heal” on a WvW map, you can not play on prime time. We usually got 2-3 hours of queue time on prime time.

I’ve never seen SFR ticks like a boss on prime time. It’s always tight on prime for every server.
So the free transfert does not change a lot for prime but but it’s brings to SFR some pugs that can play the morning, the night, etc.. etc… So the disadvantage for prime time is balanced with more players that can play the mornings, nights, etc…

Lol ok why do I take the time to read such things. …

Dayra.7405:

Sird.4536:

And as far as VcY are concerned well we have already started moving to the next super power VABBI!

Rofl, you did not learned? Should you really succeed with your super power plan
(given the bracket differences you may not reach more than super power of T9 till ANet fixes the rating) you will be again on a medium server wide open for the next flood of server-hopper.

British humour isn’t for every one I see…

CorliCorso.6254:

Sird.4536:

CorliCorso.6254:

Empyre.2531:

Xispeo.1706:

All right, so if SFR is not winning this week’s match this is ANet fault…. oO

Yes, because of how the server works. It’s wvw focused guilds that interact with eachother. There were hardly any “useless” pugs, those that weren’t in the main zerg were doing scouting, camp flipping etc.
Now add +2h on the queues we had before, guilds can’t get their raids in anymore. The basis on how the server operated was ripped apart by ANet’s decision to make the #1 EU wvw server free to transfer to.

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Viz can handle pugs because of its structure, SFR’s structure isn’t meant to handle pugs. Then you flood us with them. Result known.

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Another funny aspect I found reading through posts here. “Vizunah is on fire”, ye you are on fire when the other server is weak, when a strong opponent arises you are in hibernation or close to falling over (Troma’s call to arms after commanders quit due to not winning anymore/ “burn out”).

Yes, SFR got blindsided by the influx of free transfers. We get that. We got it fifty pages ago and we got it every single page since. Nobody cares about what tools you’re given, only how you use them. You’re facing adversity, all we want to see is how you sort it out. Viz have pulled themselves out of their malaise this week in remarkable fashion yet all you do disparage them for it.

And go back 50 pages and you will see people saying we are trying to get them in ts to coordinate, we have a SFR academy guild set up to train them. But if these guys dont listen and flame us trying to help them then whats left? People came here not for wvw but to leech of our success because it was free. We have had pugs before these transfers and together we got to tier one. These guys were our eyes and ears on the battlefield. However the vast majority of these new folks do nothing. Our home bl haa never been dominated like it has been before the transfers, in fact SFR has never been dominated like this for 5 weeks before the transfers. Unless your on SFR then you will not know how we worked.

Yes, we got that from every previous page. We don’t want to hear about it any more, we want to know what the SFR community is going to do about it. Viz went through a slump for several weeks then rallied. Are you going to take a break, wait for these ambivalent pugs to get their map completion, wait for them to get bored with losing then try & get back on board again in a few weeks? Are you going to jump ship at the first sign of troubled waters? (seafaring puns completely intended)

But please, for goodness’ sake, don’t given us dozens more pages of telling us how SFR would be winning if only everything was exactly how they want it to be.

Um TS…. SFR academy… read before you post.

And as far as VcY are concerned well we have already started moving to the next super power VABBI!

Leorcyn.1063:

I’m not saying you should become a PU, I’m saying you should find strength in them.

I almost laughed at your part on the community, but I actually feel sad.
I honnestly don’t think you can call SFR a community in a matchup against Deso and Vizu, and I don’t think you can pretend that guilds on Deso or Vizu have been created just for GW2.
This thread has been fuelled by so much anger from the past, I think it’s a good sign of old guilds used to fight agaisnt each other in various games.

SFR was a community of like minded guilds.

CorliCorso.6254:

Empyre.2531:

Xispeo.1706:

All right, so if SFR is not winning this week’s match this is ANet fault…. oO

Yes, because of how the server works. It’s wvw focused guilds that interact with eachother. There were hardly any “useless” pugs, those that weren’t in the main zerg were doing scouting, camp flipping etc.
Now add +2h on the queues we had before, guilds can’t get their raids in anymore. The basis on how the server operated was ripped apart by ANet’s decision to make the #1 EU wvw server free to transfer to.

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Viz can handle pugs because of its structure, SFR’s structure isn’t meant to handle pugs. Then you flood us with them. Result known.

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Another funny aspect I found reading through posts here. “Vizunah is on fire”, ye you are on fire when the other server is weak, when a strong opponent arises you are in hibernation or close to falling over (Troma’s call to arms after commanders quit due to not winning anymore/ “burn out”).

Yes, SFR got blindsided by the influx of free transfers. We get that. We got it fifty pages ago and we got it every single page since. Nobody cares about what tools you’re given, only how you use them. You’re facing adversity, all we want to see is how you sort it out. Viz have pulled themselves out of their malaise this week in remarkable fashion yet all you do disparage them for it.

And go back 50 pages and you will see people saying we are trying to get them in ts to coordinate, we have a SFR academy guild set up to train them. But if these guys dont listen and flame us trying to help them then whats left? People came here not for wvw but to leech of our success because it was free. We have had pugs before these transfers and together we got to tier one. These guys were our eyes and ears on the battlefield. However the vast majority of these new folks do nothing. Our home bl haa never been dominated like it has been before the transfers, in fact SFR has never been dominated like this for 5 weeks before the transfers. Unless your on SFR then you will not know how we worked.

Myrmidone.4362:

Funny to read this Thread first Deso and SFR, were against VZ, now SFR has isolated itself;-)
Many People predicted exactly this, that is the price to be paid when a Server gets pushed and does not grow by itself.
SFR was on a good way but you “killed” it on your own, dont blame ANET for this.

Greets Myrmi

btw………heard about RG,Riot,ECL,BOON,OSC has left…….whos next? siN?

Lol and how exactly did we kill the server?

Magnetron.5823:

But you don’t let pugs teach you guys stuff, making your commanders arrogant. If I say :" We should attack that spot " The response is :" kitten up magnetron "

And in the end it was a nice idea.. PUGS are not bad players when they don’t want to join IRON. We like to help, but don’t like TS.. respect that

If they don’t want to join TS then fine, but they have no right saying ‘omg we died its your fault’ when all guild members are still alive because we can hear our commander telling us where to be etc. There are the pugs that scout, kill dollys, contest wp etc and we always say ty or gj. Reset night this week we had 6 VcY on Deso BL with about 10-12 pugs (outmanned) against BuLL and we pushed them back multiple times. Only time we had trouble was when VoTF wouldn’t let us fight them evenly. Pugs are important but not the arrogant type that are quick to flame, which is who i am addressing.

salluks.6017:

Sird.4536:

The reason your outmanned on 2 or more maps is because you go around in one huge zone force map swapping. If you split you would have people on those map. We also get outmanned buffs but we dont collect everyone thats in WvW and map swap with one huge force.

u have 200 guilds on your server, we don’t have the luxury, Most of our server is PUGS who don’t know what to do, so they stick to the commander and often there are only IRON commanders online for 18/24 hours as the rest of the guilds only run primetime events.

We however are more tolerant to the PUGS and willing to teach them slowly rather than outright rejecting them and whining about them :P.

We teach our pugs if they want to learn, problem is the ones that come from the free transfers have no interest in doing so. Guilds us public TS but its only the guild members in the channel no one else even tries to log in and listen. And if you let the pugs follow you to ‘teach’ them then they will never leave and keep following.

The reason your outmanned on 2 or more maps is because you go around in one huge zone force map swapping. If you split you would have people on those map. We also get outmanned buffs but we dont collect everyone thats in WvW and map swap with one huge force.

skill lag comes from blobbing if i’m not mistaken. The other thing is the game crashes when a huge blob appears. From what i have heard from ppl in lower tiers this doesn’t happen to them. You have guilds capable of putting up good numbers but you blob anyway (i’m talking in general).

Bren.9320:

Not as funny as SFR BL i bet. Oh well, there is nothing like night of lessons learned the hard way.

No idea what your on about. But im guessing it has something to do with the guilds protecting our home map.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Pukknub.7368:

Just a friendly question, VoTF left SFR because they were tired of fighting Vizunah, if I recall. Is that correct?
If so, what made you come back to eu t1?

Hhmmmz, hard 1. They dont like viz and they are on deso.
Gues they like smashing sfr guilds?

Think they where aiming for 100 pages of trolling. 60% done!
Gratz all:) And happy reset.

Ps. This reset time is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Simple question was asked and you troll.

VoTF left SFR because they hated the huge VS zerg during that period that stayed in towers etc and would not fight. So they went to NA I guess to farm kills. When SoS collapsed they moved back to EU and my guess is they went to Deso to fight the many guilds we have on SFR and give them a challenge, something maybe they felt was lacking with VS not coming out and the third server not being strong enough. This all guess work btw so dont quote me on any of this.

Also, Deso bl @ reset…to funny.

ethier.3417:

Yaro.3251:

Iluvien.7450:

ethier.3417:

SFR has been taken over by a load of useless pugs.
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If any guild or player, joins our server, we will treat them like hostiles unless they make a decent effort to join our community)

Wow.

Indeed.

Earlier today I was going to answer ethier with rather long and boring post, but didn’t get around sending it during the day. Seeing it was already discussed, I’ll try to be brief.

So we have one server (VS) that was dealing with this issue from the get go and their solution to it (that was working so far) is to thrive on, embrace and foster hordes of Mr. Pugs with things like propaganda, propagating “Vizunah spirit” thing and what not (I’m actually do not know specifics, but can imagine). This of course was in turn shaping the whole WvW community. VS themselves agree that they are mostly pugs with pug commanders and just a couple of big guilds. A lot of small guilds though do things that are vital to the score like timer-capping, supply ninjas etc.

Now, we have another server that was hit by “War Z” and took different stance: “You are useless and not welcome unless you prove otherwise. Here’s how the game is played here and you will obey or else”. I wonder btw what follows this “or else”.

It will be interesting to watch the story unfolding but I’m not sure the way SFR WvW community is heading is sustainable. Not to say if it is healthy and constructive given the lack of in-game leverage and/or restrictions in GW2 that one would probably need to pull this off.

Well, seems like I’ve managed to come up with long and boring post anyway

TLDR: Wow.

P.S. I should have mentioned Deso as third server but we don’t seem to have this issue atm. We had it at one moment and our solution as far as I remember was to drop a tier or two.

Other than that, our answer to “War Z” would be I guess “Everybody join IRON!”

jk

It seems my post cause some kind of a stir.

We have had issues with pugs before, However the difference between those and the ones that have recently joined us, They have been willing to learn and we’ve tried to help them as much as possible and even set up guild channels on our Team speak for the smaller guilds that have been doing WvW or other things as a guild. How anyone from another server like Desolation can go on about how we don’t embrace the pugs, When IRON have closed off meetings with a select few guilds before reset night and not letting randoms join is quite funny to me. Not saying ours is right or wrong. We are willing to help and train pugs if they are willing to join our community, We don’t ask for them to join on of the “Bigger Guilds” at all.

you have done it again…..

spanky.4630:

Im sure it was 300 iron vs at least 9 of you i`m not sure i had to run ?

So why is it you left rams up at Sunny and ran down to faith when we started to approach? Same thing at Crag. I see what you guys tried and it would have worked because we only had enough people to defend one thing at a time. When i say 6 VcY it was, rest were pugs it was not the full VcY raid not even close. Like i said we stepped up to protect SFR BL from what was a terrible week on the map. When you had opposition you got nothing achieved, you only came out and took the initiative when VS and half of our force logged from the map. Also add to that 0 scouts from our side.

And im sure we can sort something out in game about that GvG with you and Coin.

You wiped 6 VcY, we were pug commanding on SFR because our home BL has been messed up this week so we stepped up. When you had 2 separate squads running from Crag and one at Sunny you couldn’t do anything. Ran every time we came for you. Once our numbers went down you grouped up. We are not whining, we lost garri coz we didnt have any scouts and we lost Crag for the same reason.

How about we set up a GvG, or are you still not doing those. This also apples to Coin.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Sird.4536:

SFR BL is a perfect example of why we don’t need idiots, one guild killing veteran archers while we are fighting the deso blob, no queues on SFR at all today. Good thing we have this matchup over because next week will be interesting.

But the funny thing is, when we are getting owned sfr comments : “we got better players/guilds/tactics”.

When we are getting some points: “you blob/offtimes/pugs”.

And interesting? Yes it will be very interesting next week.

This guild i’m referring transferred here, the pugs transferred here. Seriously telling me that we outnumbered you on SFR BL. 10 min ago we called for another guild to come over and they did until then it was less than 25 ppl in the entire zone.

SFR BL is a perfect example of why we don’t need idiots, one guild killing veteran archers while we are fighting the deso blob, no queues on SFR at all today. Good thing we have this matchup over because next week will be interesting.

VZ and SFR alliance……. did miss the meeting?

Oxxymoron.9864:

Sird.4536:

Skoti.3195:

SFR it is time to learn how to command PuG. VS and Deso do it from the very begining of the GW2 release.

Do people not read anything. We have been commanding pugs, that listen and join us. If you know of a way to command pugs that flame you and reject any hand of invitation then pls do share.

just a thought: i was on SFR for a bit more than a week back when it was in t3, and i was looking for a home server. I play almost every day, i upgrade and siege up a tower 4-5 times a week on my own budget, spending 5-10g on upgrades weekly, and 50% of the time i play morning, when every server needs every person they can get. I know how to play the game. Im a PUG. After that week on SFR, i was like : me helping THESE???? no kitten way!!!! And it probably only got worse, after all you’ve admited trying to chase players off the server. So i dont really get the surprise, they are reacting to the way you act. Honestly, who in their right mind would want to work with a bunch like you.

Other thought:
Dear SFR posters! you truly believed that your server will be the one exception that wont be overrun with serverhoppers, if it keeps winning? I mean srsly – “those i didnt negotiate and invited personally should get out, because their presence disturbs me” – you really thought that would fly in T1? Theres a limit to how naive someone can be….

What are you talking about, i said people like you are what we need more of and that we appreciate it. And the guys that do upgrade etc we thank. Seriously do people read?

Skoti.3195:

SFR it is time to learn how to command PuG. VS and Deso do it from the very begining of the GW2 release.

Do people not read anything. We have been commanding pugs, that listen and join us. If you know of a way to command pugs that flame you and reject any hand of invitation then pls do share.

Yaro.3251:

Sird.4536:

Yaro.3251:

Sird.4536:

How would you feel if IRON or GH or VoTF couldn’t get into the borderland they were signed up for and you find out that pugs are running around on those maps without a clue as to what to do.

I’d feel like I was feeling last time it was happening. Like c rap. It’s not like we don’t know how it’s like. I was once sitting in a queue for 4 (!) hours.

What’s your point? “Yeah it sucks so let’s blame all the pugs and alienate them”? That’s your idea of the solution?

Read the part where I said we are trying to get them involved. We are spamming map chat for people to join TS. We are spamming the website so people can see where guilds are going.

Great! Too bad this forum doesn’t have “thumbs up” smile. So which assessment of the situation is accurate, your or that of ethier.3417, who’s message I was answering to originally?

Like Pukknub said when we do these things we get flammed in chat (even in LA). Our guilds are still going on and making the best of it but its hard when the new guys are not interested.

And you’d like it to be an easy one? To try and organize an army of PUGs. I have grave news for you – That’s real hard

Either sometimes post without thinking how his post will be perceived He has been on SFR from the start he has seen how this server has grown and accomplished many goals. He has been promoting the use of TS and the webpage and getting flammed for it. And since we are all humans he gets flustered at times.

As for organising pugs. VcY have been on community TS more then our own private one lol. As a result we have got to now the pugs and they are friends of the guild and follow us around and act as our scouts and in general eyes and ears. If you joined our TS you will see almost every guild using it with pugs listening in. These new guys refuse ti get involved and do nothing. We are having to spend more guild resources on scouting etc that it’s hampering our performance.

Atoss.1056:

Grok.6714:

I really like how random people are lecturing SFR how to run a WvW community.
You need to understand that SFRs success was based on various guilds working together.
Setting up schedules, switching maps to help , getting good in open field.
These were the traits in which SFR excelled.

All changed when Arena-net decided to show the middle finger to the WvW population of the No1. server in Europe and let god-know how many freeloaders and randoms transfer for free.

This impacted our gameplay SEVERELY. It’s normal that SFR guilds and player who invested effort to bring SFR where is it to be frustarted by this. Suddenly you cannot get your guild in, cannot start a raid…worse yet…you pop you commader icon and half of the map ignores you.

You have NO clue how it is … yet you have the audacity to accuse a whole community of being rude to newcommers! We CANNOT play the game we love at the moment.
Are you aware of that fact? Who gave you the right to pass judgement on things you do not understand?

When you join a T1 server with an established community , you WORK with that community, you intergate and follow it’s rules. Not the other way around.

We’re struggling at the moment to settle this chaos. We really are. But to ignore the frustration of a whole server and to judge them that they are not welcoming new players is just just bad trolling, nothing more.

Thats how life goes. You have reached T1 and 1st position there – gg, but it was a matter of time that you will attract ppl from other servers to join you, especially for 2 reasons:
1. sfr is international server – viz is mostly french so probably not many joined them when they were 1st – language barrier, who would enjoy playing with other ppl if you cant understand them; with sfr its english mostly i suppose so thats a big +
2. free transfer – sfr got classified as medium, you know the rest of this story

Sadly you cant “order” ppl around, its free world – even if it would do good for your server in WvW if they joined bigger guilds and continue what you started in more organised way. My advise would be to try encouraging them to join you rather than saying " kitten off" and such :P Positive attitude helps in building community and thats how GW2 is atm – you can’t have isolated and locked server just for your guilds, no matter how good it would work for you guys. Until there are transfers possible, paid or free, ppl will follow the ones that are on the top.

We have been here for 4 weeks and this has only happened when thay made free transfers to medium pop servers. While paid was still around we did not have this problem.

None of the guilds on SFR are naive enough to think pugs wouldnt join but none of us could have predicted the huge influx in a few days.

Yaro.3251:

Sird.4536:

How would you feel if IRON or GH or VoTF couldn’t get into the borderland they were signed up for and you find out that pugs are running around on those maps without a clue as to what to do.

I’d feel like I was feeling last time it was happening. Like c rap. It’s not like we don’t know how it’s like. I was once sitting in a queue for 4 (!) hours.

What’s your point? “Yeah it sucks so let’s blame all the pugs and alienate them”? That’s your idea of the solution?

Read the part where I said we are trying to get them involved. We are spamming map chat for people to join TS. We are spamming the website so people can see where guilds are going. Like Pukknub said when we do these things we get flammed in chat (even in LA). Our guilds are still going on and making the best of it but its hard when the new guys are not interested.

omphin.1752:

Grok.6714:

I really like how random people are lecturing SFR how to run a WvW community.
You need to understand that SFRs success was based on various guilds working together.

you forgot to mention alot of bandwagon guilds you picked up on your rise to T1. If Blacktide guilds stuck around longer rather than getting burnt out you wouldnt have been as successful. You reaped alot of players from blacktide, and other servers dont forget that

P.S. we are not random people we are in the game as long as you are. Many of us have been in T1 longer than you

The only BT guild we got is RG, or am I missing others. And how many times have you won T1? For a server thats been in T1 for a long time you have a good history of 2nd and 3rd place finishes. Also the fact that we haven’t burnt out after 5 weeks winning proves we are more focused then those BT guilds. One more thing, if BT was still around Deso wouldn’t be in T1.

How would you feel if IRON or GH or VoTF couldn’t get into the borderland they were signed up for and you find out that pugs are running around on those maps without a clue as to what to do. Hell we cant even get a commander in to organise anything for hours.

We can’t stop people from joining SFR but we can encourage them to join our community and work with us. This is what we are doing but its tricky because these people dont want to join (majority have said that in chat).

If you have no interest in working with us then stay away from the server, we dont need you.

Check who was winning prime time before free transfers.

SFR was a server that had WvW guilds driving the server up the ranks and was bolstered by like minded guilds from PS. These free transfers have made it almost impossible for our primetime guilds to get into bl they have signed up for, because pugs are taking our space. SFR bl has been the hardest hit because we cant get any guilds in.

Lets see what happens next week.

The current animation is a mini shield like icon on the left arm. Looks good but not when it covers a nice actual shield skin.

For example I have the awesome super shield skin but I can’t see the centre because the aegis skin overlaps it. So please remove the animation, it serves no purpose.

Deso enjoying the little success they have had recently, how cute. VS have capped their home BL many times and SFR theirs, yet why don’t we see any screens.

And lol at the guy how says ‘come fight our pugs in open field’. I have not seen a single Deso guild roaming independently, all you do is run whole zones. Wexp is killing wvw.

And how many organised guilds did you fight?

Gz for beating pugs

Can someone give me the name of the GOD thief on deso BL 2 min ago? The one jumping on my corspe after he failed to kill me 2v1 and eventually killing me with a zerg

i mean the actual killing of the npcs, we find them all active the bounty but cant kill the npcs that are selected. We have it set so officers can activate but i cant do anything with the npcs

For 2 weeks we tried to complete T1-3 guild bounties only to find we cant talk to any of the npcs to trigger them. We tried killing them in the order that they are on the list and randomly but nothing. Anyone else having this issue and does ANet have anything to say about it?

can the Deso guilds on VS BL right now not do things on their own? Nice blob you got running around

Daxter.4286:

Well done velocity in EB. You guys are hard to kill.

We have not been in EB for ages until today, and we won’t be coming back anytime soon till skill lag is fixed Other then that it was fun fighting guilds we never normally fight on the borderlands.

We are not looking to get a stacked server like JQ did in NA. These free transfer to medium populated servers though is doing that.
We have had more pugs joining then guilds and that is the issue.

Thank Anet for the transfers.

So you are a spy for this moorta fella. Think we solved the issue with the mysterious upgrade at SM.

Rhysati.4932:

Sird.4536:

Can you enter cof at lvl 1?

You can do a CoF run on a level 80 character and swap to your lowbie on the last boss. You’ll get the full reward on your alt.

Ye but how low is lowbie, 75? Guy asked if its possile from 0-80 not 75-80.

Can you enter cof at lvl 1?

Why would we team up against Deso?

Yaro.3251:

Sird.4536:

Lol 60. We have never had more than 30 in WvW ever. Instead of saying awesome fight, gg, you go for the good old ‘they blobbed up’. No wonder there is little respect in this thread.

If it’s not you then there was enough pugs/other guilds. Don’t tell me 30 VcY wiped 25 GH + 5 BiLL + 4 DeX.

I wasn’t there and sorry with all due respect I won’t believe your words. My mates were saying “blob” more than once when I asked them about this particular fight.

All we need is unit count addon-like feature that many other MMOs have to monitor how much enemies vs allies are around in particular radius.

No one from VcY said that, look at who made the post and check his guild. We dont come on the forums saying we killed so and so etc. I came here to say we did not have 60. Our guys are saying we had 30+ pugs.

We are not a guild that brags.

And how do you know i wasn’t part of the 8 man team that earned the silver cape or whatever. Or Jackie as he is the only other person with a cape trim in his sig. The 8 man team compete at the tourny but the teams get switched a lot during preparations and there are people that play during the ladder matches that don’t get to feature in the tournaments. Its not just the 8 people that go out and compete its the whole guild.

I am proud of my GW achievements because that is the best pvp of any mmo game i have ever played and most GW players will agree with that. Anet missed a massive trick by not sticking to what was great about GW pvp with this game.

Lol 60. We have never had more than 30 in WvW ever. Instead of saying awesome fight, gg, you go for the good old ‘they blobbed up’. No wonder there is little respect in this thread.