Guild Wars 2

FS were the server to beat in this tier, everything you heard about us before hand was true and I think any server we faced would agree.. On Saturday we showed what we could do by almost dominating WvW, Sunday we did a good job during the afternoon and prime time and felt we gave a good account of ourselves. However waking up on Monday with literally everything blue sapped our energy away. Having said that I thought we did well from Monday till now almost controlling our home borderland for most parts. It’s a shame we couldn’t do that across the other BL and EB. Guilds and pugs morale are pretty low, we could only compete in one BL (not because we suck but because people are asking why bother).

FS have been ‘night capped’ for what seems like forever. But not to this extent. Against VS we could hold a few structures overnight and allow the day crew to claw back the points. Same thing when we faced ER and VS. against Deso though we can’t because of the huge numbers one guild can put out.

VS night crew were about 40 per map, maybe same with ER. Deso have 40 per tower (exaggeration obvs, but hope you get my picture). Basically Deso outnumber both VS and ER night crews.

And if your expecting more competition in T1 then you might be in for a shock. ER were only able to put out a night crew because they had vacations and players literally didn’t sleep. Now that vacations are over and the fact they must be exhausted, numbers will be low. VS numbers were never high anyway, it seemed like they had a good night crew because the servers they went up against didn’t have any. Never faced AS but seems to me the French Canadian guild they have are just checking out EU WvW and could go back to NA anytime.

Don’t judge FS on this match up because this is not a true representation of us. If other servers were honest for a few minutes they will tell you how much of a threat we could be or once were. But waking up only to have to start over again has drained us in a way that even surprised me.

Anyway I’m at 230 costume brawl wins and still have not maxed this achievement out, so annoying.

RamzaBehoulve.5640:

Aburitul.1568:

It’s so funny that u cry about FSP not being a competitive server,we are against nightcapping since weak 2 or 3 of the game and we manage to keep it up in the tier one bracket till last week,but it’s getting exhausting and demoralizing to see that in the morning u lost everything u worked for and u have to start all over again.We are the only ones who survived to Tier 1 whitout any nightcapping.So u can enjoy you’re victory but it’s not a fair one.Don’t forget that u fought us before and u droped to the lower bracket.

You are not competitive enough anymore, deal with it and stop whining. Life and war are not fair. You had 3 weeks since ANet announcement to make adjustments, you didn’t, Desolation did, thus they win.

Now go and use your diplomacy skills to fill the night gap and come back fight.

lol what adjustments, Deso got lucky with Ruin.

If you mean the EU guilds then yea sure i can see that. You have improved alot since the days when you were in and out of T1. But there is noway you would be dominating like you are if Ruin didnt join, the matchup would have been alot closer between the three severs, no matter how much the EU guilds improved.

FS hasnt given up, Halloween has come and we are enjoying that. Better then getting our backside handed to use at night.

This will be Deso vs BT. Both servers have american guilds so should be interesting to see who wins the night matches.

Will be interesting to see what happens between the Russians on FS and BT. And if we get to focused on each other and Deso clean house.

Azanure.8035:

A question to my fellow FS players. What the hell is going on today? Have we quited already? We can’t even get past the spawn point in EB.

Halloween started today, I was stuck on LA overflow for almost 2 hours.

I think all the EU English servers speak English no matter what nationality they have on them.

Far Shiverpeaks is seen as a Russian/Scandinavian server but chat is always in English. There might be a few guild recruitment in other languages but even then it’s only seen in chat once every 10 min or so.

Deso have an American presence, Blacktide I think now have some, think Gandara also has some. Am I missing something with FS not having any?

@ offski

I recognise the work Deso has done to bolster the daytime crew. I was on the Kodash BL on Monday defending GB while you guys tried every trick in the book to get it (treb at the vista etc). I don’t think the old Deso would have done that. I still think our daytime group is stronger, there are going to be days when that doesn’t show, but I think servers that have faced us will agree.

Like I said I was just frustrated with the guys bashing the two servers and the fact that we have been night capped almost since launch, when we first faced VS till now. It’s frustrating to know we have a very strong daytime force that can claw the points back but lose it all overnight.

Who knows maybe FS will call in sick at work or school for the remaining week and finish first till then think I will enjoy running around with my guild and do what we can.

@ juju, on your mini map it says 9.30 am. Is that local time or server? If its local time then it means you guys still had the lead because of your night crew, and FS slowly clawing our way back. Which btw we did, we had FS locked down and held our own in every map and comfortably had the lead from 10 am to 6. No idea what happened after since I logged but I can guess.

Also apologies if I offended people or guilds, MMO’s can get frustrating

What really got to me is the Deso players that crawled out of the woodworks when their server started winning and bashing FS and even Kodash. I don’t think FS has got the credit it deserved for being the number one EU server and number 2 WvW server. We are not a bunch of headless chickens using our server population to establish ourselves, instead it’s all of the guilds that took the time to organise and lead the server to those heights. Guilds like Epic, Team Sweden, NoX, RL, GF, Nug, ZD, DZ, DiE, WoTU and many others, and also not forgetting the ‘pugs’.

Times are changing and as a result FS will have to adapt, which we are trying to do. Whether this means getting more EU guilds to form a night guard or guilds from other time zones, I don’t know. I still believe FS has the best prime time force of any server and when we can keep that going through the night (like on Saturday) we are very hard to beat. All we are missing in WvW is a night time presence.

The EU WvW scene is looking really good at the moment. All tiers look like they have good match ups (regardless of scores).

Raap.9065:

Sird.4536

I dont mind the nightcappers, happen to use with VS and then recently with VS and ER. Point is Deso are nothing without Ruin, and you guys acting your all mighty coz you might beat FS for the first time and get back into T1. Where was this before?

We beat you with hardly any RUIN members online in the evening. Last time I’m saying it, since apparantly you got problems reading. Perhaps I need to translate it to russian?

Regarding the hacker: Report his username to leaders of IRON and RUIN so we can figure out who it was.

I dont know who the hackers was, maybe ask the Kodash players. also i dont think they will be able to tell you either (how many Desolation Defender do you know)

Elkantar.9460:

Sird prepare yourself desolation has atleast 2 hackers, one using Rapid Fire trebuchet one brings whole zergs into your keeps

So beware…

We will fraps them from now on especially during night and report anyone who anticipate with the hacker there is nothing we can do. Iam sorry that those incidents who get more regulary every day ruin our matchup fun. And i guess from now on kodash will play less time or fewer numbers. I think really about joining full force 24/7 on FS, will talk about it with all leaders i know. Cause no reperation or anything from Desolation RUIN Guild. They especially anticipated on this hackuse.

You might not know the answer but who was the lone guy on FS BL when our 6 man nightcrew tried to take the tower outside your spawn? We left him alone and he helped us by attacking the Deso defenders

Why the hell cant i quote.

Anyway, im not trying to flame but some Deso players have forgoten what we did to them before.

We nightcapped you with Euro players, you are night capping with Americans. Saturday we dominated WvW because, well, it was Saturday.

I logged on at 9pm gmt went into Deso BL at 9.30. All i saw were Ruin tags. I then got a que pop into FS an hour later, again Ruin. So dont tell me you Ruin logged on much later because i saw plenty of tags.

I dont mind the nightcappers, happen to use with VS and then recently with VS and ER. Point is Deso are nothing without Ruin, and you guys acting your all mighty coz you might beat FS for the first time and get back into T1. Where was this before?

Haha funny seeing Deso fools all happy the americans are bailing them out. Enjoy the Ruin Train.

@ Raap
FS went to sleep its a simple as that. You seem to forget how we capped 2 BL held you at one and controlled EB easily on Saturday. Apologies if we have school and work to get up for the next day. If you were on Deso from the start then you will remember us wiping the floor with you in T1. Without RUIN Deso are nothing.

Not butthurt, but people forget how good FS really are. At our full strength there are very few servers that can match us.

FS showed what it can do at full strength today. Deso once again proved they give up to easy. Now this is just the weekend, FS has been known to lose a lot of coverage during the week, so will be interesting to see what will happen.

Also why not join FS IRON?

It seems to me RUIN joined Deso to become number 1 without a fight from the other servers. They said they came over because teir one has 24/7 coverage, that isn’t true.

VS only had a strong night presence because FS sleep. Its the only reason they are number one. Elona atm are dominating but I guess that’s because,i think, they have school vacations in germany. Deso are the only server with oversees help. VS might have canadian or whatever but iif they get beat by germans then I don’t think they will beat the americans.

Have fun being number one in EU because you couldn’t cut it in NA.

I have been on FS from the start and it seemed to me that the DL alliance have carried us so far. There is another alliance on the server but I don’t see near as many people from those guilds in WvW as the guys from DL. There are a few other guilds recently doing there part like DiE and Epic. Let’s hope they get more members as well as the other EU guilds to assist DL.

Could not be asked to read every post in this thread but thought I would this.

VS I hope you understand these people posting complaining about your hebrew speaking 500 man frenc canadian guild are pugs. It is a shame we lose everything over night but I am more concerned about the fights during the day which have been alot of fun. I think the FS pugs are annoyed because we are only matched up against VS. Deso and Riverside keep switching places for third, meaning they win the second tier matchups while we keep finishing second.

Anyhow FS proved we can compete, but its a shame VS never sleep lol.

You have to start stealing. You can set traits that give you boons, conditions, rip boons off players, increased range etc. Also you get some relay useful items. Stealth, cc, every boon n the game, fear, poison, snare etc which used at the correct times can help you alot.

P/D is a good way to go. Cloak and Daggers followed by Sneak Attack will let you apply a good amount of bleeds on your target. You can combine this with Caltrops. Also by using CaD you will be in stealth alot so difficult to hit. Hide in Shadows gives you a extra stealth you can use if your low on initiative from using CaD. You can make up initiative up by using steal. Roll for initiative is nice and gives you a cc breaker.

30 Trickery for Malice and 30 Deadly Arts for Expertise. You will be in stealth alot while your bleeds take down your target, also Sneak Attack is a mini Unload.

If your going S/P put 30 in critical strikes. The damage from S/P comes from Pistol Whip. Higher your crit higher your PW hits. Putting 30 in Deadly Arts increases your power.

Jump in with Infiltrators strike followed by PW. If you start to get into trouble use infiltrators strike to get away from combat. In PvE its easy to land PW on your target as they are mobs and not actual players. In Pvp its a bit tricky. That’s why you have to anticipate your targets movement and try get ahead and also using Devour Venoms helps. Full on glass cannon S/P also take Haste, but use it wisely, you will lose all your endurance.

At the end of the day it takes time to get used to. If you can get tthe timing of PW correct you will be laughing at the damage you will be producing.

I am from FS and have been doing WvW almost since launch (lvl 10 – 79 through WvW). This 24 hour cycle is not helping anyone, except VS :-) . Once the 2 week rotations start happening hopefully things will change and the big guilds and alliances we have on FS start taking part. Only seen the Russians doing WvW in groups. Hopefully the TNA alliance are just waiting for the 2 week cycle and till then preparing. We beat VS once thanks to the DL (Disorder League, Russian alliance) taking the fight to the french in the early hours. This shows we can beat them, imagine if TNA showed up.

So hopefully we get some real action when the 2 week match ups are introduced and really give the french something to think about.