So my question is if this were to happen again today with the new policy would I be banned for 2 weeks? If I write a post that has the target audience of the ArenaNet developers and the post is 100% constructive and helpful will that post be removed and will I get banned?
Thank you.
Nope, you wouldn’t be banned at all. We do have it in the forum rules about staff call outs, using “Hey ArenaNet or Hey DevName”. We tend to send warning infractions on that, to point folks to the Code of Conduct.
A 2-week suspension would be if you said “Hey ArenaNet/DevName, kitten kitten kitten and kitten you”.
Can I get a clarification on what kind of kitten or kittens each of the staff members like?
On topic:
Swearing at a dev or staff member is something that I agree should be punishable with a ban.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
As I stated before, angry players make for rude remarks. Until communication starts being heard at the top and players realize that they are actually being listened to, things won’t change.
And when I say listened, I don’t mean sparse red post saying, “Truth is, we do listen and read forum threads and player feedback.” Stop it. Skimming is not the same as reading.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Is it unjust that ANet as a whole is getting this kind of treatment after over a year of suggestions just going in one ear and out the other treatment from players? And now this heavy handed approach is really just overdone. Fact is, it was how things were handled that caused all this “disrespect” towards the company and it’s members. And as people start getting frustrated, they get angry, as they get angry, they get rude, and as they get rude, things get said that doesn’t reflect what that person really meant to say.
Try putting yourself in our shoes for a month, and let us play in your shoes for the same month, and your mindset will change immensely as to why all of this is happening.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
So, basically, negative criticism isn’t allowed anymore?
^ This is what I call disguised trolling.
If this update serves to remove “smart trolling” like this from this board I welcome it.
When you constructively criticize the game, aren’t you really criticizing the people who made it? We all know how words can be taken out of context. What’s stopping someone from doing that even after clarification?
And
Constructive criticism has never been punished on this forum.
I had to read that again to make sure I was reading it correctly. Once I finished, I realized something that I already knew, but, under moderation rules, would surely get me infraction points. However, I got a laugh.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I don’t see the issue with “You have been warned” being used in the final line. It’s just there to denote the seriousness of the post. It more or less relates to the paragraph just above it.
The whole post itself is a warning on it’s own to inform you of the consequences. There is no reason to add the “You have been warned” line at the bottom. It is threatening and unnecessary when the whole post already states that.
You don’t need to add the extra emphasis at the end to warn people when the post itself clearly states exactly that. It is aggressive, threatening, and unprofessional.
Reinforcement of power wielded.
It’s really just unnecessary.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
So, basically, negative criticism isn’t allowed anymore? Because when you get down to it, NC is a jab at the people who made it, who are part of the ANet staff. And since the post is very broad in it’s description, this could very well fall under it. Even if the poster didn’t mean for it to be that way, any moderator could take it as such and dish out undeserving punishment.
Not to mention the end part makes it seem like it’s a no rules barred dictator style moderation in effect here.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I don’t think you can return it in game. Try putting in a ticket explaining and you might get it reversed. But generally, I think the reply will be one time deal since it’s a really high priced item.
All in all, it doesn’t hurt to try submitting a ticket. The worst they can say it no, right?
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
When you constructively criticize the game, aren’t you really criticizing the people who made it? We all know how words can be taken out of context. What’s stopping someone from doing that even after clarification?
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
People have posted other pictures from other times. You can’t have it both ways.
No one plays the game…it’s dead…except when new content comes out, which happens very two weeks. So every two weeks the game isn’t dead. Which means the game isn’t dead.
There are plenty of people playing the new content…that’s why Anet keeps making more new content. If people didn’t log in to play it…you’d see it go away pretty fast.
First, I never said it was dead. I said some servers were dead, not the game. I’m on a T1 server. When I see 5 people in LA on my server, that’s when I’ll say it’s dead.
Second, I said 2 – 3 days on average after a patch drops, the populations dwindle.
And third, ANet makes the content, but there’s an underlying cause to why. But that’s not the topic of this thread.
Keep trying.
I don’t have to try. I’ll take a picture in another week and it’ll look much the same. You don’t personally like the game. You’ve said so. You have something against the game. So you come here to make the game look worse than it is. The old expression is misery loves company.
Plain and simple, you’re filtering your perception through a viewpoint that surely most people must see what you see. I don’t think most people think deeply enough about their gaming experience to make the kinds of distinctions that you do…or that I do for that matter.
The game has lots of traffic a week after new content comes out…which is only week before new content comes out again.
And you’ve said that it’s one of the best MMO’s that you’ve played. So is that what you’re doing as well? Swaying perceptions to fit your view?
I won’t deny that I dislike the game. However I’m not misguiding people into thinking the same. It amuses me to no end that you, of all people, say that’s what I’m doing.
Quite a show if I do say so myself.
Let’s not let this spiral into a squabble. It makes us both look childish. I, for one, will continue what I do, which I believe is alerting the people to what I believe to be reality, and you and your fellows can do what you think you guys do best, whatever you may think it may be.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
People have posted other pictures from other times. You can’t have it both ways.
No one plays the game…it’s dead…except when new content comes out, which happens very two weeks. So every two weeks the game isn’t dead. Which means the game isn’t dead.
There are plenty of people playing the new content…that’s why Anet keeps making more new content. If people didn’t log in to play it…you’d see it go away pretty fast.
First, I never said it was dead. I said some servers were dead, not the game. I’m on a T1 server. When I see 5 people in LA on my server, that’s when I’ll say it’s dead.
Second, I said 2 – 3 days on average after a patch drops, the populations dwindle.
And third, ANet makes the content, but there’s an underlying cause to why. But that’s not the topic of this thread.
Keep trying.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I don’t like it being used as justification by angry, bitter, spiteful fans to spit mean-spirited venom.
And it’s not any better that disillusioned, proud, white knights use it to say it’s just there for justification by those who disagree with their points of view(s).
You’re under the same category as most of us here were when we first played GW2. I won’t fill your head with things, but, just remember that what you think is a gold pence might turn out to be something very different once you finish removing the surface.
That being said, hope you enjoy your time on the game. However short or however long that may be.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
“People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is. Especially watch out for the ones who tell you that nobody understands your genius.
Honestly, this is going to sound horrible, but self-doubt is one of your most powerful tools for craftsmanship. None of the designers you admire feel self-confident about their work in that way. None of them think that they are awesome. They all suffer from impostor complexes the size of the Titanic.
I am not saying that you need to lack confidence in yourself. (Heck, you’ll never put anything out if that’s the case! You need to have the arrogance to assume anyone will care in the first place). I am saying that nobody is ever done learning, and people who tell you you have arrived will give you a sense of complacency. You should never be complacent about your art.”
Raph Koster. Good read.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Novelty items are usually just cosmetics that are just there to show. It’s like saying “Hey! I was here when these were handed out!” If you miss it, it shouldn’t be that big of a deal. Just like how people are complaining about the TA back item. It’s gone. Oh well. It might be a big deal to some, but, really, how long until you override that back skin? The next LS for most people.
But I understand that they should be different year to year. Giving the same thing over and over is kind of lame and really depressing for those who actually do the stuff required to get it.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I’ve got a problem, I used to play WoW after few months i was unactive so i decided to check my Hotmail inbox and than i found Battle.net witch is a fake e-mail i clicked on it ’’dumb’’ and than i logged into battle.net witch the site was exactly the same as the real one i logged in than it says you couldn’t login Ip blocked or something like that so after few days i checked my inbox again and the real battlenet send me an e-mail witch say’s my account has been blocked for ‘’@!$#’’ i bought wow again and went on my account i found that my account was cleaned up every single piece that was trade able was gone. So now my question is i checked my inbox and found ‘’Guild wars 2’’ so i’m worry’d to click on it it can happen like my WoW account so my whooooole story is just to ask,
how can i recognize a real ArenaNet E-mail?
I know some of you are lazy to read or say ‘’true story Brah’’ but i really need help!
Let me be the first to call you dumb. Now that formalities are done with.
The way I find out is when you hover over a link in the email, at the bottom, which is the status bar, it will show you what that link is. If it has something like www.arena.net/gw2/something here, it’s usually good. But if it’s something like www.arena.go.somebullkittenhere.somethingelsehere.net, it’s usually fake.
Have you been below a T2 server? It’s a ghost town in LA. Go to GoM or DR or any server below a T2 and stand in LA or anywhere for that matter and count how many people you see in an hour. Then go to anything T2 or above and count. You’ll see the vast difference.
A blatant lie. I have always played on a tier 4 server, and that description is a million miles from the truth. LA is permanently teeming with activity (and I’m not American and not playing in US primetime).
Now, GoM, DR, they’re tier 8 servers. Maybe they are deserted wastelands, I don’t know. But if they are, just say so. You’re only embarrassing yourself posting something as obviously false as claiming that “any server below a T2” is like that.
Before this falls into an argument, top 6 servers OP. There are apparently some servers that are outliers, but the fact remains that there are many servers that are quite literally dead or dying.
Calm yourself. It’s not that serious. Deep breath in, and slow breath out. It helps.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I’d agree with Xae. It’s probably one of the few things that stems from the GW system. People loved minis on GW, and so following through on that thought process, people on GW2 would love them as well.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Before this falls into an argument, top 6 servers OP. There are apparently some servers that are outliers, but the fact remains that there are many servers that are quite literally dead or dying.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Are you being serious right now? I can’t tell if you’re serious.
Have you been below a T2 server?
Are you being serious? my sig clearly indicates which server I’m from.
I play on off-hours on a rank16 server and every day : I see ppl in LA, I see ppl in the daily activity, I see ppl in WvW, I see ppl in sPvP, I see ppl in every PvE zone I go into.
Due to TL (Team Legacy) and Ruinous Gaming Community alliance. That’s pretty much 90% of the server since those are some huge communities that have been around for quite some time. Other servers aren’t that lucky that they had a whole alliance made up of thousands of players choosing that server as their home. As such, they are/are already dead.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
the worlds are all full, just scattered across dozens of activities.
ignore the haters and their lies.
Are you being serious right now? I can’t tell if you’re serious.
Have you been below a T2 server? It’s a ghost town in LA. Go to GoM or DR or any server below a T2 and stand in LA or anywhere for that matter and count how many people you see in an hour. Then go to anything T2 or above and count. You’ll see the vast difference.
There’s more players now than at launch. 2.5 million players log in each week.
Souces would be appreciated. I doubt there’s close to that many. Maybe during the updates, but as said previously, they drop off 2 – 3 days afterwards.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
So, about that “collaborative development” thing. Since pretty much NOTHING changed from the initial preview, are we to assume that this collaboration movement doesn’t apply to game balance?
Honestly, I think it’s just a farce made up to quell the negativity that’s inflated the forums. Maybe a couple things will be taken into account but I still think it’s a joke on us much like these balance updates are.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
2 out of 3 of the GW developers left over ideas on how to proceed with GW2. Guess who and what the idea was and you’ll have the answer as to why GW2 is currently like this.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Nope. Patches bring people back for a few days and then they’re gone again for the most part. If you want to see people around, Jade Quarry, Blackgate, and Tarnished Coast are the servers you should go to.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
He means to say that the chaos storm created by the trait crits for over 50k per second aoe. And thats just tPvP!
Must be hilarious if it does this in wvw. If anyone has a video I would enjoy a link.
Mesmers are pretty much dominating WvW right now by running in groups and jumping off cliffs and towers into enemies below. Just go to WvW and get your first hand video there.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I have a feeling most ppl would buy an expansion of any type if they put it out. As things stand they are giving us free expansion like content so i am not sure why ppl think paying money would make it more enjoyable. I guess ppl are fooled into the idea that money buys happiness? You realty got to question ppl ethics who think this way.
The LS is not giving players the kind of content they want…new zones, new character classes, new legendary weapons, new weapons with new skills, more skills etc…
A lot of the LS is 1 dungeon which is not so different from a lot of dungeons you done before or reworking world bosses which some like, some don’t, plus of course another list of achievement points to tick off…oh and another back piece…
The quality of each LS varies considerably, some are good, some are dire bug ridden versions of hell…
So you want after day one of the game you want them to add in endless more things to get? In effect ppl feel overwhelmed by what is out there now why would you add in that much more?
I think your asking for way too much even from an exposition level add on.
Those who get overwhelmed are either disillusioned or are the casualist of casual players. Really. Dulfy puts out the guides the day the patches hit. If you’re really pressed for time, as in, you know you wouldn’t be able to finish it, Dulfy the stuff and you’ll have it in ~2 hours time, maybe 3 if you’re slow.
The permanent content is a different story, but, then again, there have only been a handful of those.
Most of the LS have added in permanent content only the festival have been non permanent because they are once a year events.
Seriously? Do tell me which ones. And I’m talking content, things that I can do more than once after the LS section is past. I’ve counted 3.
Well the first south sun gave us a new map the 2ed south sun gave us a world boss event. The last 3 LS give us one new world boss event and update to and old world boss event and a new path in a dungeon. Other then that the 2 events that gave no permanent content was F&F it was not tied to a once a year event and the trade winds i think it was called that was tied to the air blade’s.
Southsun that no one ever goes to. Karka Queen that no one ever does. Scarlet which is now a farm. Teq that 3 Guilds organize, and is dead on most servers. And the revamped TA path that will, like Teq, be dead after the end of this achievement cycle.
So, 5 permanent things in 13 months, with a generous 3 still valid. That’s very, very impressive.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I have a feeling most ppl would buy an expansion of any type if they put it out. As things stand they are giving us free expansion like content so i am not sure why ppl think paying money would make it more enjoyable. I guess ppl are fooled into the idea that money buys happiness? You realty got to question ppl ethics who think this way.
The LS is not giving players the kind of content they want…new zones, new character classes, new legendary weapons, new weapons with new skills, more skills etc…
A lot of the LS is 1 dungeon which is not so different from a lot of dungeons you done before or reworking world bosses which some like, some don’t, plus of course another list of achievement points to tick off…oh and another back piece…
The quality of each LS varies considerably, some are good, some are dire bug ridden versions of hell…
So you want after day one of the game you want them to add in endless more things to get? In effect ppl feel overwhelmed by what is out there now why would you add in that much more?
I think your asking for way too much even from an exposition level add on.
Those who get overwhelmed are either disillusioned or are the casualist of casual players. Really. Dulfy puts out the guides the day the patches hit. If you’re really pressed for time, as in, you know you wouldn’t be able to finish it, Dulfy the stuff and you’ll have it in ~2 hours time, maybe 3 if you’re slow.
The permanent content is a different story, but, then again, there have only been a handful of those.
Most of the LS have added in permanent content only the festival have been non permanent because they are once a year events.
Seriously? Do tell me which ones. And I’m talking content, things that I can do more than once after the LS section is past. I’ve counted 3.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I have a feeling most ppl would buy an expansion of any type if they put it out. As things stand they are giving us free expansion like content so i am not sure why ppl think paying money would make it more enjoyable. I guess ppl are fooled into the idea that money buys happiness? You realty got to question ppl ethics who think this way.
The LS is not giving players the kind of content they want…new zones, new character classes, new legendary weapons, new weapons with new skills, more skills etc…
A lot of the LS is 1 dungeon which is not so different from a lot of dungeons you done before or reworking world bosses which some like, some don’t, plus of course another list of achievement points to tick off…oh and another back piece…
The quality of each LS varies considerably, some are good, some are dire bug ridden versions of hell…
So you want after day one of the game you want them to add in endless more things to get? In effect ppl feel overwhelmed by what is out there now why would you add in that much more?
I think your asking for way too much even from an exposition level add on.
Those who get overwhelmed are either disillusioned or are the casualist of casual players. Really. Dulfy puts out the guides the day the patches hit. If you’re really pressed for time, as in, you know you wouldn’t be able to finish it, Dulfy the stuff and you’ll have it in ~2 hours time, maybe 3 if you’re slow.
The permanent content is a different story, but, then again, there have only been a handful of those.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I’d buy it if the LS rubbish gets thrown out along with it. Else it would be the same as this. Finish the new content in a few weeks and then go back to LS.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
If a person WvW quite often, then that 10% is pretty significant. Someone who primarily PvEs won’t really notice it.
Plus it’s currently BiS. You can say whatever you want about being able to play the game in all rares or exotics, but most people will always want BiS gear.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Instead of reducing the drop rate and punishing everyone, why not just delete it? I don’t understand hoarders and pack rats that can’t perform such a simple function.
Because as soon as people start mass deleting, it will become sellable to the merchant and on the TP and people who have enough money can then buy it. Even if it sells for a few copper that’s a profit over deleting if you have stacks and stacks. .02×250×20 is 1 whole gold.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
If people would stop responding the conversation would have died ages ago. lol
So you can add another tick to your chalkboard on how many times you’ve won an argument on the forums through pure white knight word play?
Seems reasonable.
On topic:
GW2 might have sold a ton more copies than GW ever did, but GW retained more players during it’s time than GW2 did 2 months into the game. There’s a reason ANet releases those kittenty concurrencies and during the LS patches instead of player totals averaged over a quarter.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
No end game as most people define it. No raids, Elite areas, or anything of that sort.
Basically, you’ll be doing the same things you were doing while leveling up at max level. So no, there’s no point to rush yourself to get to 80.
Unless of course you like grinding. Then you might want to to do the Champ farms. Other than that, don’t waste time. It’s the same as when you left it.
inb4 GW2 Defence Squad shows up.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
GW2 will never be the game most people envisioned after watching the Manifesto. To do that, the whole game would need to be taken back to the beta days up to last November, when things started going downhill. At this point, it can only be improved with what people think are the most pressing issues. The “Collaborative Development” thread show that it’s pretty much broken beyond repair. Now we just have to band together and make it slightly less broken. All this lies on the shoulders of the devs and if they actually listen from now on. Which is shady given their track record, but I’m willing to give them a single chance.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
So by the way we have two main topics of conversation now:
1: Polls: Every seems to like them but where do they go?
2: Game Feedback Collaboration: How do we want to do this?
Chris
1. It might be best if first we’d figure out whether in game polls would be opt-out or opt-in, or both.
1a. Opt-out – If doing opt-out it makes sense to make it very visible. It’d be important to provide a very simple opt-out function for those who would prefer immersion not be impacted. Having a setting to toggle the opt-out shouldn’t be forgotten. 1ai. The login screen would be a logical place 1aii. Being a UI element upon immediate login could work
1b. Opt-in – If doing an opt-in approach it makes sense to have this be more of a hidden feature. 1bi. A menu item to access it could work 1bii. Also I saw a suggestion about using an in game npc, which would help with immersion.
That all said, there’s probably very little preventing both an opt-in and opt-out from approach implemented to accommodate the most amount of people. Since, they can feasibly be mutually exclusive of each other it may make sense to do.
The in game mailing system could potentially be used as well.
That could work. Send an official mail like the ones for the LS with the star or something so people aren’t like this is an attempt to hack my account.
Set it into the account profile to opt in or opt out and have people log in and choose one. This requires some work but it would probably be the best way.
People are ready to explain when they know they’re heard. At that point, it won’t just be complaining, it’ll be pitching potential solutions to fix a problem.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Also it would work in game for things people do on there. The forums aren’t populated by many of the players.
I’ve been saying this for a while now.
The problem with using the forums as the place for information is that many players don’t use it. When asking for feedback, I think it needs to be in-game. It is the only way that ANet can get the best possible representation of the community at large.
While the “vocal minority” on this forum aren’t necessarily right, nor wrong, it is a very small sample size of the overall player base.
Exactly. That’s why if it’s in-game, the potential to get the whole playerbase is there. There might be few who ignore it, but, most would be willing to participate and take 30s out of their life if it was introduced and explained why, in this case to garner information on what players think of whatever they just participated in to further improve the state of the game and future updates.
The explaining part would be the key, as people would then express what they really think of the content instead of just hitting 5’s on everything and submitting. Have a box to add any additional thoughts as well. Then the devs have more insight.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
I want to echo the people who have recently been requesting in-game polls. Since currently there has been no real acknowledgement or response to player dissatisfaction with the pace of Living Story releases, I have chosen to simply not log in at all to avoid being counted as a “satisfied customer” in your concurrency metrics.
An in-game poll where I would have the chance to have my opinions actually be counted would be something worth logging in for.
I think this is an idea worth discussion for sure. But i have a question:
Would in game polls affect the immersion for the player?
Chris
But what constitutes as “Immersion”?
…you guys had said you didn’t want to do things like fight with town clothes because it “broke immersion”, but, like…can we say that the LFG tool breaks immersion? Not too sure we can if you were keen to add it
Good point. So for me immersion breaking would be a pop up appearing after an event completes or following beating a dungeon. But you raise an interesting point with LFG. Perhaps (and i am just brainstorming here) it could be a tab that you can open up to give feedback.
I will think about it some more. Keep the ideas coming.
Chris
Pssst!!! You might want to tell some of the devs to stop breaking immersion. Every time we get a daily chest, kill a dragon/major boss once a day, finish a dungeon….
Also! before i forget. Thanks…for just being here…now…doing this. Really. It helps a ton.
No worries thanks for being so collaborative with the discussion.By the way i have to disagree though. I personally feel that a poll is less immersive then the bouncy chest. Mainly because the chest is still in the theme of the game world and more connected to the gamestate. Where as the Poll is more abstract in terms of goal and gamestate.
This said we are having a discussion and i am just giving my opinion.
Chris
You know, a poll would make more sense.
Also it would work in game for things people do on there. The forums aren’t populated by many of the players. If an ingame poll or survey or something showed up, it would bring in more data as to what the thought of that particular event/dungeon/activity is. You would have to make it so that it doesn’t show up for every single thing a person does. That would get annoying fast, but, have it so that it’s set to random. Like every nth thing a survey shows up. It would help the devs the most in designing content. And maybe have one at the end of every LS sequence just to see what people thought of that particular element.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
More than happy for any topics to be put forward. I will do my best to feedback but at the same time i hope people will respect the fact that there are just some things i won’t be able to go into.
Chris
Either way, we have the notion that our voice will be heard and possibly taken into consideration instead of just posting and having a debate amongst ourselves.
I think this is a good start. It’ll only work if you actually follow through with it. Not trying to be rude or anything, but, many people have lost trust. So now we’re working to build it back up.
Remembering that trust has to extend from all parties involved and mesh in the middle will solidify this.
That being said, starting the threads and then waiting 13 months to respond won’t cut it.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Would so many GW1 fans buy this game knowing there were not going to be any additional zones so far? Knowing the atrocities their “art” team is doing? How the lore of the game is being put aside for lame excuses to use the gem store?
Because coming from GW, we decided to give them the benefit of the doubt. There were things in GW that were addressed pretty fast and some that weren’t. But that resulted in us trusting them with what they were doing and we all blindly followed like loyalist. I’ll admit that I was one of them. The sad reality is that we got that trust thrown back in our faces and the result is what we have here.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
How many other games have you played that the company actually gets out and interacts with the players on their level for hours or even minutes?
I know of a certian MMO where GMs partake in conversations in Capital cities. They also respond via PMs and explain problems and how they can/cannot be fixed if you put in a ticket and you are online. If not, you get an email with the details.
I’m not at liberty to say which because of the numerous infractions I’ve gotten for “comparing GW2 to another game”.
ANET cares where other gaming companies don’t.
I lol’d. For reasons which do not need to be explained.
I know of 1 or 2 as well but p2w games? Can’t compare m8 I’m sorry to disappoint you. As a gamer for many years(more than I care to count) I’ve yet to find even a handful of games that respond to their community as ANET does and did. Shrugs….GAME ON
You must be on some special server that others don’t have access to. I play on a T1 server, and I’ve seen an quite a few ANet employees running around in WvW on multiple, but anytime anyone addresses him or her personally, we don’t get any kind of response.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
How many other games have you played that the company actually gets out and interacts with the players on their level for hours or even minutes?
I know of a certian MMO where GMs partake in conversations in Capital cities. They also respond via PMs and explain problems and how they can/cannot be fixed if you put in a ticket and you are online. If not, you get an email with the details.
I’m not at liberty to say which because of the numerous infractions I’ve gotten for “comparing GW2 to another game”.
If all you’re wanting to do is stand in LA and stare at the forge, then GW2 is very alt – friendly.
If you’re even thinking about playing the game, then you might want to stick with one character and pretend you only have one character slot and the rest cost <x amount of dollars that you cannot afford>.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Are you being serious right now? I can’t tell if you’re being serious.
If the OP was being legit about listening to us, he would’ve taken the time to type out a thread that conveyed to us how they were actually reading our threads and post and taking things we say into consideration. This is a copy and paste thread from 3 weeks ago.
He’s talking about respect and how we should cut out the negativity, but what is this? A copy and paste. Is that respectful towards us? Their customers, playerbase, and supporters? Talking about communicating with us, and we get this? It’s insulting to us. And morally it’s wrong that the OP even did it in the first place.
Really? You still see no problem?
Go and reevaluate your priorities. Don’t be one of those guys who sees nothing wrong whenever something you like is concerned. This is what you’re doing here. You’re blinding yourself to the problem in your fanatical phase.
Yes I am being serious and like I said above its not a mere copy and paste, only part of it is. the new post is 3x longer then the original from 3 weeks ago.
No I dont see the problem. its a post about the same exact subject, even if he had to type it all from scratch he’d still need to say exactly the same things. People are busy they’ll try to save time if they can and there is nothing wrong with re-using what you already typed.
If like you said he isnt being legit and he doesnt care why would he post the new thread and add nearly 500 words to it (original post was 280 words this is 777 words long) If he didnt really care why reply to that post 3 weeks ago at all?
It doesn’t matter if it’s lengthened or not. It’s still copy and paste. It’s unprofessional. And it was thrown at us like it was brand new.
The original post didn’t have the parts about the negativity and respect in it. That stemmed from the past few weeks having an influx of negative criticism. That’s why it’s longer, nothing else.
It is essentially the same bullkitten about listening and reading post. I highly doubt, as busy as they are, that they read through the forum post like they say. If they did, we’d have red post all over the place and not a few sprinkles here and there like ice cream from some cheap vendor.
And also, if they’re so busy, I, and maybe a few others, noticed that they policed this thread for a good hour, handing out infractions and deleting post.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
Wow. After seeing this and reading the OP of this thread, I just lost all respect. Seriously? Copy/Paste response? I’m sorry but that is extremely disrespectful. You couldn’t even take the time to address your players with a proper response, so instead you just threw up a copy/paste response. And you want us to show you respect and treat you with kindness when you pull stuff like this?
Just… just wow. Is all. Seriously you should just delete this thread now….
Guys seriously, I dont get what the big issue is… He replied in a thread felt like this was an important issue that had global implication beyond the specific thread he replied to so he decided to create a new thread on the subject and copy and pasted part of the response and added like 3x the volume of new stuff.
It would be disrespectful if he copy and pasted that response in different threads because then yet it would possible mean they dont really care and are just issuing template responses but copy and pasting a response from a single thread to a new thread and writing 3x the volume to it means exactly the opposite ie they care enough about the subject that they felt that the exposure of a single threat wasnt enough that it needed the attention of the entire forum.
Are you being serious right now? I can’t tell if you’re being serious.
If the OP was being legit about listening to us, he would’ve taken the time to type out a thread that conveyed to us how they were actually reading our threads and post and taking things we say into consideration. This is a copy and paste thread from 3 weeks ago.
He’s talking about respect and how we should cut out the negativity, but what is this? A copy and paste. Is that respectful towards us? Their customers, playerbase, and supporters? Talking about communicating with us, and we get this? It’s insulting to us. And morally it’s wrong that the OP even did it in the first place.
Really? You still see no problem?
Go and reevaluate your priorities. Don’t be one of those guys who sees nothing wrong whenever something you like is concerned. This is what you’re doing here. You’re blinding yourself to the problem in your fanatical phase.
“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
– Euripides
