Guild Wars 2

Zackie.8923:

a better businessman than zommoros.

This will never happen. Zommoros is the king of business. And jipping.

DusK.3849:

Crysto.7089:

Not even in the same class as Cantha. Nightfall’s flavor and environments were the weakest.

There wasn’t a single place in Nightfall or Prophecies as bad as Kaineng City. That place was gross.

Cardboard City was pretty bad. It wasn’t until you go to the Jade Sea and Echovald that it got better. Before that, it was all mazes.

Aberrant.6749:

clipnotdone.9634:

In general, no.

However, it is possible to occasionally get Immobilised mid-air and since you can’t use most skills in the air it can be a bit of a pseudo disable, although this is really more of a bug than an intended effect.

Errmagersh that’s super annoying when it happens. Your character can’t do anything and starts to vibrate like crazy lol.

lol I had this happen in WvW and it was pretty cool at first until I realized I can’t do anything at all…and then I died.

It’s worth noting that almost everyone that started playing this game was supporting everything they were doing at the beginning. That’s why people bought the game to begin with.

We all had expectations that weren’t fufilled over the course of a year. People didn’t start getting angry overnight. It was because of the actions the devs took that caused it. Over a year of short comings and other nonsense is what sparked all of this.

This whole post by Chris is really just adding fuel to the fire by basically saying “we don’t appreciate negative post about the game and we overlook it, but we welcome positive post with open arms” in so many words.

Tagus Eleuthera.7305:

I actually have some decent advice for the dev’s… the only way to control an internet community is through mass bannings and fear. Using phrases like, “shut up, that’s why”… would be a good start. It would save time too….. using all those pretty words and corporate-speak must have taken a good amount of time!

This would only fuel the rage. Which might make for some interesting threads. And mass exodus out of GW2.

Tagus Eleuthera.7305:

I can’t imagine looking through them all!

And here you have your truth. If they looked through all the threads and post, this board would be filled with red post clarifying and removing doubts. But, as you can clearly see, that is not the case.

Knote.2904:

Lol I thought I read this somewhere.

http://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/What-A-Dev-Think-About-The-Official-Forums/2845309

The thread is gone now though.

http://www.mistleague.com/what-a-dev-think-about-the-official-forums/

After this: Faith in ANet and everyone who works there: zero percent.

Expect it in Mini Pack – Set 3.

ASB.4295:

I would suggest releasing up a roadmap of where you plan to go with the game, including – yes, including – where you are currently standing with things like like new gear tiers, level caps, requested feature X(dueling, mounts, et al.). It would save your player base from being needlessly disappointed because they waited for something you don’t plan to implement ever, or vice versa. Be honest about your plans, see what the player base thinks, adjust accordingly or not and explain why. That way people don’t feel betrayed and have enough time to make a decision about whether or not they want to keep playing. But I guess that kind of transparency’s out of the question.

Adding a little bit to this.

Also if anything gets scrapped, don’t just do it. Give a small explanation of why it wouldn’t work or why it was discontinued, even if it’s brutally honest or something along the lines of “we really don’t have the resources to implement this”. There could be enough feedback on how to get it to work if there are devs reading these forums like you say for feedback instead of other powertrip reasons.

Neoheart.2750:

Did a lot of the content I miss contain achievements that are no longer doable then?

All of them did.

Mortifer.2946:

Things I want:
Cantha
New elder dragon story
Cantha
precursor building – biggest priority
Cantha
adding zones into empty spaces around the Sea of Sorrows
Cantha
make SAB permanent
Cantha
Make Tequatl fightable for unorganised groups again.
Full underwater zone.
Split HM Tequatl into guild mission or special event which appears on everyone’s displays with the option to insta join
Also, Cantha

You missed Canth..oh wait.

The devs are listening. They’ll add all this “soon” as they are “working on it” and “nothing is off the table”.

Halloween should be coming around soon. It’s probably the only event that’s any good, imo.

Lol the cash shop. Full of fluff and junk that keeps the game going in the direction it is. It’s still pretty kittenty. Some more single use armour skins, town clothes that serve no purpose, toys that a bored person in LA uses, and things that are convenience items that should be in the game but instead on the shop for absurd amounts of gems.

Basically what Charak said. It’s still the same as when you left. Some minor things that don’t change anything and all the content that you missed won’t make it’s way back.

If you didn’t like it before, you won’t like it now. Don’t let the defence tell you otherwise. And I’m sure they’ll be here in force to tell you of all the “great changes that have been made to the game”.

Katz.5143:

I haven’t tried out the ingame lfg tool, hopefully it let’s you be descriptive in your post.

It does, but people can’t read or refuse to read it and it serves practically no purpose.

And

Galtrix.7369:

I leveled to 80, got a commander title, world completion, and I made a build that let me farm CoF extremely quickly, so quickly in fact, that I actually had people lining up in a queue to join my party for CoF farm runs. So I’m farming one day, and lo and behold, 2 guys that kicked me from AC showed up begging for a run. I let them in. I whisper the other members of the party explaining what happened to me and I tell them my plan. We get to the final boss, and I vote to kick them both when the boss was at 10% health. I got some pretty mean whispers, but all I said was, “Remember me? Now don’t kick lowbies or they may own your life one day”.

I bet that was a nice dream.

Hyperionkhv.1978:

Can we have open bug tracker system so players could know what developers work on currently?

From this post, doing something like that would just increase all the negativity and would lead to 90% of this forum’s participants getting banned because out of the hundreds that would be posted on it, 2 will be fixed in a year’s time, with the rest having a red post with “we’re working on it”.

Korossive.7085:

GW2 in future:
“LFM ping Ascended gear

Fixed with what people will soon be seeing.

It’s basically the same thing with some small fluff added in. Check the GW2 website. The preview or whatever they call it is up.

Knighthonor.4061:

Skan.5301:

Knighthonor.4061:

I dont understand, how the you all Love Champion Zergs but hate the concept of Raid Dungeons.

Can somebody explain the reasoning behind this?

I see many players joining and asking about the Champion Zerg train, to get their gear grind on.

Yet pre-release you all were saying how much you hated Raid Dungeons for the same reason.

they both consist of large groups of players, tackling a powerful NPC to get some PvE loot rewards or faction grind.

IMO, Raid Dungeons offer a different level of challenges that these open world fights simply cant do.

Why like the Zerg but hate the Raid Dungeons?!

Because raids are part of traditional MMOs such as WoW, EQ, LotR, ect. Champ farming isn’t.

GW2 is supposed to be different than all those MMOs. It’s a whole different mindset and all that bullkitten.

And GW2 doesn’t have a grind. Just saying. Nor does it have any kind of treadmill.

It’s not as if people are doing champ farms/WvW zergs to get any kind of gear, right? Nor are you doing it to get a legendary or any kind of dungeon armour. It’s mats and/or tokens. That’s totally different from any other kind of MMO. At least in the view of the people who are disillusioned.

Zergs are also part of traditional MMOs as well. Just like lots of other things. Why get rid of Raids, because its similar to something in another game, but using that same reason, not get rid of everything else that is similar to what other MMOs do, such kitten man party dungeons. Lots of MMOs have that. Why not get rid of that as well since its all about being different?

And GW2 has plenty of grind. This whole discussion started off talking about that very grind.

Champion Farming, for loot is a grind. Legendaries, are a grind.
WvW ranks are a grind. Achievements, are a grind. there are so many grinds in this game that it is unbelievable that people actually believed, and still believe Anet’s original marketing that GW2 would have no grind. Even after Anet themselves said they had to change away from that ideal.

I’m not even going to try anymore. Is it really that hard to understand what I was aiming at?

Scryed.9423:

Because raids are part of traditional MMOs such as WoW, EQ, LotR, ect. Champ farming isn’t.

GW2 is supposed to be different than all those MMOs. It’s a whole different mindset and all that bullkitten.

And GW2 doesn’t have a grind. Just saying. Nor does it have any kind of treadmill.

It’s not as if people are doing champ farms/WvW zergs to get any kind of gear, right? Nor are you doing it to get a legendary or any kind of dungeon armour. It’s mats and/or tokens. That’s totally different from any other kind of MMO. At least in the view of the people who are disillusioned.

Your finger is far from the pulse of the games you mentioned. They all include meta events and champion farming at this point in time btw, while including raiding now.

That was the direction of my post while saying GW2 is different. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say now.

saalle.4623:

Arena Net said that they will release HUGE content patch next year

They also said that this year. January/February patch was supposed to have content “equal to an expansion”.

AntiGw.9367:

How does one put legs into that armor on the right?

My guess is that it’s put on with a lot of swearing.

Xcom.1926:

It is especially bad if you got a Charr or a Norm the strafing is terrible and feels like it is slow motion.

If you watch, it looks like their feet are noodles and kind of jumble together as they strafe. I’ve seen it and wondered what the kitten many times.

Devata.6589:

chemiclord.3978:

Devata.6589:

Shelledfade.6435:

Can we let them fix the broken aspects of this game first before they release an expansion?

Just saying… it might be better if they fix what’s there first before dumping more stuff on top of it.

They will but very slow as you can see. Fixes does not make them money as it won’t sell them any gems. But when then can work on an expansion they can and must (to prevent negative feedback on the expansion) also handle much of those bugs.

And making fixes would take resources away from the expansion you are convinced MUST happen to save this game. Meanwhile, MMO players are NOT patient. They will NOT wait for an expansion if they are bored.

Not really. Remember the question would change from "how to get people to buy gems’ to “how to get people to buy the expansion”. I think fixing bugs fix in both but I also think it fits better in the second question.

Answer to “how to get people to buy the expansion”: Another Manifesto filled with sweet, sweet lies that people will eat up and then be severely disappointed with.

It might happen. It might not. It makes sense to do both.

It makes sense because currently, RNG is the only way to get a precursor. With crafting, you could get one and those who are willing to do the work to craft one will be one step closer to a legendary.

It doesn’t make sense because in the long run people will just craft them and precursors won’t even have a market value. It’ll also flood the market with rares and exotics since many people who have the gold to play with the Mystic Forge won’t bother anymore. A few might, but the majority won’t.

Again, just speculations.

I’m hoping that they’ll be smart and make the craftable versions account bound.

chemiclord.3978:

Devata.6589:

Shelledfade.6435:

Can we let them fix the broken aspects of this game first before they release an expansion?

Just saying… it might be better if they fix what’s there first before dumping more stuff on top of it.

They will but very slow as you can see. Fixes does not make them money as it won’t sell them any gems. But when then can work on an expansion they can and must (to prevent negative feedback on the expansion) also handle much of those bugs.

And making fixes would take resources away from the expansion you are convinced MUST happen to save this game. Meanwhile, MMO players are NOT patient. They will NOT wait for an expansion if they are bored.

Seeing as how well the fixes are going, I’d rather the resources be put into an expansion. Oh wait, fixes aren’t happening either. Well then, I’m at a loss.

I don’t think Zhaitan is actually dead. If he is, that is the most anticlimactic end boss fight of any game that I have ever seen.

Azala Yar.7693:

Ahlen.7591:

Any expansion they release will probably sell pretty well tbh.

Don’t listen to the forums, typical whiny vocal minority really. Expansion would bring back players as well.

Considering how much entertainment/content you get for the price, it’s a pretty great return.

Don’t see why it would necessarily bring back players. I’ve not played for months although I could if I wanted and it wouldn’t cost me anything.

If I can’t be bothered to log into GW2 now as it is, what makes you think an expansion would change that? They might get some back for an expansion but I doubt they would keep them for long, not unless things really improve with this game.

At this point, if they make an expansion, we’d most likely get the same kitten we’re getting now. We’d probably get a new class, race, and a few skills.

It would just be there to get revenue from box/digital sales and nothing would change. All this talk about “the game’s only a year old, give it time” shows how the changes will be.

We would get a LS for the new region though! Oh think of all the people who would flock to the gem store! All that money going into rehashed content! Isn’t that exciting?

Charak.9761:

The problem with adding a new race, means re-designing every armour to fit

Which amounts to too much work.

The designers exhausted all their abilities making the areas. Now we’re stuck with ugly as kitten armours and weapons. The ones that look any good are filtered ones from GW. Crystalline, Maw of the Dead, ect. So now we’ll just keep getting fugly as kitten kitten that only the tryhards will get, claiming “it looks good.”

style.6173:

My guess is that it is because PvP is a fail and so they needed to introduce grind in order to keep people playing.

It’s because the game isn’t up to Asian standards. Koreans and Chinese like farming. To make the game appealing to them, it has to have a grind.

Historically, MMOs have always done better when they hit Eastern markets. Sales high record highs and concurrent players start rising.

Though you might be right. A grind might be what is keeping the few fans that are still playing.

g e o.2589:

Skan.5301:

Next tier introduced will have this. Bet on it.

On topic:

Instead of an Ascended peice, it sounds more like a legendary. All in all, a day/night cycle hammer would be pretty nice if the design was right.

AC weapons have day/night too but they’re exotics :P

True. I was talking about the items needed to make it. But as I thought about it, being you said gifts, I would think a legendary would make sense. Either way, the idea is good. I like day/night cycle weapons. The uniqueness to the design to make them different from the AC weapons vary so it could work.

Next tier introduced will have this. Bet on it.

On topic:

Instead of an Ascended peice, it sounds more like a legendary. All in all, a day/night cycle hammer would be pretty nice if the design was right.

Zomaarwat.3912:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Class balance:

Elementalist
We’re working on the staff in an effort to make it a stronger support weapon, and we also improved the conjure weapons so that they’re stronger for support. You’ll see improvements to all 4 of the conjure weapons to make them stronger and better for support.

But there are 5 conjure weapons? Stone shield, ice bow, fgs, LH and flame axe.

I’m guessing they don’t count the shield as a weapon since it’s not used for attacks. Just my guess. I could be totally wrong and he actually meant 5 and made typo.

Knighthonor.4061:

where this from? whats coming soon?

It’s part of the next LS, I believe. Check here for the banner. But information on it isn’t available for a few days. Until the 8th of October.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Skan.5301:

Ahlen.7591:

After reading the forums for awhile, I’ve come to the conclusion that GW1 players are the whiniest player-base to ever inhabit an MMO.

When you’re told “everything you love about Guild Wars and more” will be in the game and instead we get what we have here, you will understand.

Imagine your parents telling you for your 13th birthday, Ahlen, you will get a console, and instead of getting a PS3/PS4, you get the original Nintendo. The one where you had to blow into the cartridge to play. Wouldn’t you be disappointed?

I bet you’d whine.

How ignorant must a person be if he thinks that he has the only valid opinion in what is good and what not. Anet has the data on what most people want, they see numbers changing, so it’s their right to act according to those numbers to have the best solution to the main playerbase. People kitten about ascended gear for example, but they forget that it’s our fault that it’s in the game entirely.

Amusing.

I never said that was right or wrong. Your assumptions clearly show your comprehension skills are lacking. The person I quoted believed that GW1 players were the whiniest people in MMOs. I was pointing out to him why that would be the case.

I also never said anything about ANet having to put anything into or dropping anything out of the game. I simply stated what was said and what the result was, a sort of cause and effect, if you will.

Try harder next time. You might bear some fruit for your efforts.

Ahlen.7591:

After reading the forums for awhile, I’ve come to the conclusion that GW1 players are the whiniest player-base to ever inhabit an MMO.

When you’re told “everything you love about Guild Wars and more” will be in the game and instead we get what we have here, you will understand.

Imagine your parents telling you for your 13th birthday, Ahlen, you will get a console, and instead of getting a PS3/PS4, you get the original Nintendo. The one where you had to blow into the cartridge to play. Wouldn’t you be disappointed?

I bet you’d whine.

Vayne.8563:

Because they couldn’t look 3 years into the future and expect that people would act like this. It’s ridiculous.

Even if the game doesn’t match something written 3 years ago, I believe most people do know that MMOs evolve and change. And since the manifesto does mention stuff like vertical progression, the change from the manifesto to what we have is miniscule compared to what people are making it.

And they ARE ignoring everything published about the game subsequently. At the very least that makes them bad consumers (or good consumers if you’re a corporation I suppose).

So you’re telling me that going to YouTube, logging into your account, going to videos, and deleting the video that is called Guild Wars 2 Manifesto would be too much work to remove, if not back then, but even now?

Don’t feed me your horsekitten, white knight.

Actually, considering how well of a job they’re doing on the game right now, it might be beyond the abilities of anyone who works at ANet.

Carry on.

And MMOs do evolve and change, but the core principles of the game remain intact most of the time. What we have here is basically nothing that was originally told to us. Yes, you and your fanclub can tell all of us here that it’s the same via big words and fanboyish glamour, but, you can shut the kitten up because it’s not. Maybe on the broadest of spectrum, like one that spans all 7 seas. Even then it’s a longshot.

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

eisberg.2379:

Oldbugga.7029:

No matter how much the cheer squad try to deflect people’s thoughts on the “manifesto” it remains :

1. A published statement of their intended meta for the game.
2. People believed ANet would be able to deliver on what were pretty clear statements of intent.
3. Many people made their purchase of the game on those beliefs.
4. People are ENTITLED to voice their disappointment that the game does not meet their expectations created by 1 and 2 and 3.
5. ANet has failed in communicating changes in a meaningful and timely fashion.
6. Player communications are largely ignored.
7. Players feel abandoned on many issues, ie play breaking bugs which have been evident since beta…this destroys player confidence in the development team…especially when they are not even acknowledged.
8. As a result of a lot of these issues, rightly or wrongly, people have lost trust in ANet to deliver.

People are allowed to feel misled and voice that opinion, and should not be howled down for doing so.

All the counterposts and weaving will NOT change how people FEEL.

The old sayings “words are cheap” and “actions speak louder than words” may hold more truth here than they appear to.

3 days after the manifesto to give clarification on the very stuff people have been bringing up lately isn’t a timely manner? 3 years ago Anet gave clarification on what they were talking about in the manifesto, and 3 years later people are saying that Anet lied, even though Anet gave clarification 3 years ago. Not Anets fault that people decided to watch JUST the manifesto but never read anything else from them in 2 years prior to the release of the game.

The Manifesto is to this day easily found on the GW2 website. Can you find the clarification there? Go look. But be warned: even Manifestopholes had difficulty tracking down a copy of the Sacred Writ of Clarification.

Right, because it’s, ready for this…three years old.

The clarification was released BEFORE the dozens of other interviews and articles that tell specifically what a dynamic event is and what the personal story is. It was NEEDED back then.

Today, the only people who really complain about the manifesto are the people who are ignoring the other stuff. But back then, when it was made, there WAS no other stuff.

You have entire pages on the website describing exactly what’s going on in game. Videos from conventions. Fan sites explaining.

And you still can’t tell the difference between a dynamic event and personal story?

Give me a break.

They could have taken it down instead of using it over and over as a marketing ploy/advertising tool.

Why didn’t they take it down or modify it if they clarified everything? And why weren’t the clarifications thrown in the spotlight as the Manifsto was?

Vayne.8563:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Galphar.3901:

Here’s something you have to remember, Anet didn’t release Factions until 2 years after Prophecies and it took them 1 year to release the Stone Summit patch. It wasn’t until after the success of the Stone Summit patch that hey decided to finish up Factions for release. When they announce Factions they also announced that they’d be doing a Standalone every 6 months for GW. We ended up getting Nightfall 6 months after Factions and EotN a year after. Then Anet announced GW2 and here we are.

Umm what?

Factions was released exactly one year after Prophecies. Guild Wars: Prophecies was released on April 28th, of 2005. While Guild Wars: Factions was released on April 28th, of 2006. The Stone Summit (or Sorrow’s Furnace) was released on September 7th, of 2005. Six months after Guild Wars’ initial release.

And Factions wasn’t even an expansion. It was an entirely new Campaign like Prophecies. Basically a whole new game. Released within a year.

And Guild Wars 2 had more content at launch than Factions and Prophecies put together.

Everyone knows the game launched too early. They spent the first year getting it to where it is now, which is playable. This project is so much bigger and more ambitious than Guild Wars 1, you might as well not try to compare.

50 devs vs 300. 25 missions in Prophecies and 13 missions in Factions compared to how many personal stories?

How many starting zones in the two games.

Hell people finished Factions in 1 week and complained there was nothing to do. One week!

All that ambition died 2 months after release. At this point, they could have just added jumping to Guild Wars and put in 5 years of work on Utopia and everyone would be happier.

And if you want to get into it, Guild Wars had way more content than GW2 does. The reason it doesn’t seem that way is because of the instancing. But trust me, GW is bigger, had way more options, and way more content than GW2 does at this point in time.

Edit: Spelling errors.

For all it’s worth, GW2 still feels like it’s a beta game. Sure they’ve fixed a few bugs and problems, but the major problems, those that deal with content, progression, and pretty much everything else, still exist.

I’m beginning to think the people who actually say the game is “perfect” or “best MMO ever” or anything like that are quickly becoming the minority.

An expansion. I personally believe an expansion would be the same kitten as we have now with nothing new except areas and maybe a few 180s utility skills thrown into the mix to make it look like it’s worth buying. ANet devs are too busy rehashing old LS content into new ones and making more kittenty wings to give to the players who like to be quelled by rewards to worry about an expansion right now. Their gem shop makes them enough off of the kittening kittens that buy everything every 2 weeks.

In other words, they don’t have a reason to look towards an expansion as long as the easily disillusioned keep thinking the content every 2 weeks is considered new and will keep buying gems upon gems to get the worthless junk on the shop.

chemiclord.3978:

Skan.5301:

They did it for Guild Wars.

Truth be told, GW2 is just making money for WildStar. That’s NCsoft’s main game now. GW2 is just here to make money for the development of that game. Watch and see. Everything that was supposed to be in GW2 from the beginning will be in that game.

GW1 ALSO had a cash shop, for the record… one that you couldn’t use in-game gold for, at that.

It wasn’t filled with useless kitten every 2 weeks.

saintange.5816:

but…. but…. I thought that.. any incoming expansion would be free for those who already bought the game…
someone lied to me?

Good one.

UNLESS you’re talking about the Living Story updates. Those are free. Though calling that an expansion would be blasphemous.

Hey, maybe a cash shop purchase! You know the devs like that cash shop.

Edit: xephire got it.

xephire.8324:

expansion=new maps,more heart quest,more dynamic events,more npcs,new tier of armors added,more time gated crafting,more vistas and poi.

Throw in quaggans and I bet all the 10 – 15 and 50 – 80 year old age groups playing this game will descend upon it like a hungry lion on a limping gazelle.

Ahlen.7591:

xephire.8324:

We don’t need a expansion cause its the same stuff anyway.We need a cash shop removal so theyll focus more on the game than on their little baby.

lol….

“Screw Anet, they don’t deserve money they should just keep hosting the enormous cost of bandwidth and server allocation for nothing!”

Godkitten , kids these days..

They did it for Guild Wars.

Truth be told, GW2 is just making money for WildStar. That’s NCsoft’s main game now. GW2 is just here to make money for the development of that game. Watch and see. Everything that was supposed to be in GW2 from the beginning will be in that game.

Assyrian.4827:

Redenaz.8631:

Posting this separately both for clarity and because the forum complained that my post was too long when I included it in the one above:

mjharrison.3209:

Ahlen.7591:

lol @ OP, I actually think that MAYBE 1-5% of the GW2 population came from GW1. GW1 was an insanely tiny niche game.

Completely untrue. GW1 sold about twice the number of boxes GW2 did, 6 millions in fact. That is not a niche game by any measure.

http://www.guildwars.com/events/press/releases/pressrelease-2009-04-24.php

After twelve months, GW2 hit 3.5 mllion copies. GW1 hit 6 million in 2009, four years after it launched.(Released in April 2005, press release announcing 6 million is April 2009.) To compare those two numbers directly is just nonsensical. A more accurate comparison would be GW1 hitting 3 million in December 2006, twenty months after launch. Only time will tell how long it’ll take GW2 to hit 6 million, without the campaign releases that fueled GW1, but for their first year out, GW2 is trouncing GW1 in sales. Even if GW1 doesn’t hit 6 million, it also has gem sales to bolster its total revenue.

GW2 hit 3 million because of GW1.
GW1 did not have GW2 it started from scratch.

This.

GW2 is really only that popular because of all the GW1 players who racked up their HoM points because GW2 was going to have “everything you love about GW and more” in it.

A lot of my GW1 friends who I played with everyday are now gone from GW2.

Basically, the people who have never played any type of MMO before in their life, those who have no earthly idea what a real MMO is supposed to be like, white knights who wear the ANet emblem on their chest in real life, and people who like things to be handed to them for doing mediocre task in the guise of rewards play this game anymore as a majority. There’s a smaller percentage of people who play it hoping it will get better, but that percentage dwindles day by day.

thewamba.5203:

xephire.8324:

Just so you know,you’re creating negativity in this forum through this post as well.

I did acknowledge I too was whining, true. but I’m not being hateful, just sad and confused. why do people like to be miserable? just stop playing, u kno

As I’ve said before, the time and money invested into the game doesn’t allow someone to “just stop playing.”

If you like the game so much, why aren’t you playing the game and kittening on the forums about people who kitten about the game?

Seems very counterproductive.

Also, it’s not whining, it’s called negative criticism. Something that all games need. It basically only works well when the Devs actually listen. In this case, they don’t so it’s just a bunch of us who are expressing our feelings with no avail. But, it makes us feel better. So calm yourself down. Just search through the forums for what you need and go finish your dailies and champ farms. You’ll be much happier.

Mathias.9657:

Blizzard pulls the same crap, or any other gaming company really. It’s always “soon” or “we’re looking into it” or “it’s on our radar for now”.

Best example: cross realm heirloom mailing.

Back on topic, Blizz does decent with explaining why something wouldn’t work or if changes are coming, explaining why on the forum threads that are made about it.

This here is just a bunch of swerving and kiting and we get no kind of explanation as to why things happen.

You can’t tell me kitten like that is annoying.

Xae Isareth.1364:

There’s a difference between making a good game and a game that can sustain a team of devs and pay their wages. I don’t think Anet simply makes changes to annoy their playerbase.

I don’t think they do it to annoy the players. I do think they do it because they think it’s the right thing to do. All this flaunting about how “we listen to all the feedback” sounds like a bunch of air when you keep getting stuff that people don’t like.

If they added things and gave reasonable time lengths as to when things that have been asked for will make it into the game instead of “we’re working on it” or “soon”, it would make the value of any type of information go up ten fold.

On top of that, reasons as to why changes are being made instead of just changing them would be a nice thing to do too. Not saying all changes are made without explanation, but, the ones that are become annoying.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Personally I find the British culture of drinking your insides out stranger.

That would be Irish. And Russian. German, too.

Compromise for what? I would much rather have what was originally planned over this.

I don’t get why they even said compromise. Because aside from the few people that are pretty much married to the game, there are a lot that dislike the path the game is on.