Guild Wars 2

A good player can make any class look like the most powerful class. It’s the reason behind all of the “X class is overpowered!!” complaint threads.

I’m up to about $100. I’ve purchased 3 additional character slots, and an extra bank slot. Well worth the money if you ask me.

I just hit level 80 on my first character, and only at 40% world completion. It’s going to take me at least a year to max all of my characters out, and there should be plenty of new content available by then.

ciannait.1945:

Stevoli.8795:

ciannait.1945:

Also, I know I only forum-troll when I’m at work and can’t play.

Get back to work you!

I say as I make sure my boss isn’t looking at my screen.. haha

whipcrack

Wow these moderators take their jobs seriously haha. ANYWAYS, to answer the OP, for better or worse, these forums are moderated way more thoroughly/heavily than most other gaming forums out there.

One option would be to have a check-in person, who invites members to his party and lets them join his instance.. that could take a while though. I don’t see any other way around it, unless you can right click “join in” from the guild window. (which I don’t think you can)

I’m eventually expecting to see something like guild halls, or guild housing areas, where we can have events like that.

I love those “if you don’t change this game NOW to be just like my last MMO, then everyone will leave, the game will die, and life on earth will cease to exist” posts.

Seriously, some people act like their lives depend on enjoying a game.

Standing up on a really high cliff, waiting for someone to walk by down below, so I can jump and land on their head.

I get a good laugh, and they get XP for raising me! win-win

Reclusiarh.2674:

hhmmm…thief- stealing, necro – reviving the corpses? sounds evil enough to me.

So, Robin Hood, the man who stole from the rich and gave to the poor, is pure evil. Who woulda thunk it.

Oh, and that kid who wished for his dead dad to come back, only to have his dad end up as a snow man… EVIL!

Oh wait, reviving corpses.. the kid who brought his dog back to life. Frankenweenie. EVIL!

Reclusiarh.2674:

I mean maybe you didn’t do enough damage? I believe this is the primary factor when calculating the odds for the rare loot. If one would just stand there and contribute one range rifle shot, he wouldn’t get anything , I guess.

I was wondering that same thing. Does total amount of damage dealt have an effect on your rewards from the chest?

If that’s the case, does it only factor in damage dealt to the dragon, or does it factor in damage dealt to summoned minions or summoned structures as well? On that same note, shouldn’t contributions such as healing and support be added in as well?

Well, it looks like a majority of the responses are from old timers like myself. I did see a few young’uns speak up though, so not all is lost.

My initial thought was similar to how we all felt when we were younger, we just wanted to be a “grown up”. Kids/Teens who still live at home could possibly carry that feeling over into the game. I could be way off, but it’s a thought.

The Shatterer actually flies over a majority of the map in between dying, I remember my first time up there I ran around trying to spot it every time I would hear it roaring.

Rhyse.8176:

30, love it.

First game in a decade or more where you can just wander around and find things to get distracted by. Plus the art… woooooo.

That’s how I play as well, I just go wandering

Our younger players that left were going straight from one heart to the next, completing what seemed like a map per day.

EverythingXen.1835:

If my head is in the sand, yours is up your kitten

That made me belly laugh… poor kitten

Something that I’ve seen pop up several times in recent threads is that players who are 28 and older seem to love this game, while younger players seem to want more and eventually leave the game.

Personally, in my guild we had 4 members who were in their early 20s. They all left to go play other games (WoW, LoL, etc.) Everyone left is 30+, and we can’t get enough of this game.

I’m just interested to know if anyone else has experienced this. If you enjoy this game are you over 30? If you hate this game are you 27 or younger?

diabluz.2860:

Diablo 3 is NOT an esports game, neither is WoW. Even Diablo 3 has more interest and that is largely regarded to be a failure but has more interest than GW2 does and GW2 has only been out for a little over a month.

I guess you didn’t look at the videos for D3 then, the one with the highest amount of viewers is titled “BUYING UPGRADES FOR VIEWERS”. Gee. I wonder why people are watching that one.

Fact is, the popular video streamers aren’t playing GW2. That’s about the only thing I’m seeing from your link.

diabluz.2860:

Every time a ostrich comes up I’m going to respond with this.

Wake up call!!!

Again, look at the top games… those are all eSport games. OF COURSE they are going to have higher number of viewers. Using that as your argument is like saying people aren’t interested in football because they aren’t watching live streams of a guy in his back yard throwing a football around.

If they do decide to remove it for PvP, I think they should leave it in for PvE. It’s nice to have that 2nd chance every now and then when things go bad.

diabluz.2860:

That is where you are so totally wrong. Most people don’t like this game. Most people actually find this game boring and have left. Hence the title of the thread, Welcome to the Minority.

If by “most” you mean your little group of friends, then sure. Otherwise, you’re just doing a bad job at trolling.

There’s always going to be extremists on either side of an argument, nothing new here.

diabluz.2860:

Xericor.9103:

Invoking the mighty ‘twitchtv’ again…
Didnt we nail this in a post a few days ago? Viewers are down for a multitude of reasons, none of which spell doom for the game…

That is just one of many metrics you can use to gauge current interest in GW2, Xsplit is one of the other many ways you can see that interest/people playing it has declined immensely since launch.

I’m done trying to argue the obvious. Like others have said, denying that there is an issue isn’t going to make it go away. You can deny all you want, it will not change the facts.

There is no issue. People were viewing live streams to see if they wanted to purchase the game or not. Of course the # of viewers is going to go down when the game has been out for over a month now.

Once they implement the competitive PvP system with the tickets and super prizes, you’ll see those numbers go right back up. If you didn’t notice, all of the top viewed games are competitive PvP games.

Sarisa.4731:

My guild has an average age of 28 or 29 now, and it’s been going up (both our population and our average player age) since launch. The older people love the game and remain, the younger ones tend to move on to games more fitting to their interests. No one game is for everybody.

If my fellow older men and women are the minority, I welcome it.

Same in my guild. We had a few people who are in their early 20s, and they left to go play other games. Everyone left is 30+, and loving the game.

diabluz.2860:

I’m going to use a very simple and easy to understand visual for those head in sand people. If you go to this page on Twitch you’ll see the games with the most viewers which is a very good gauge of current interest in that game in the gaming community. As you can see Guild Wars 2 is way down on that list. The game started out at a much higher spot when it came out but has been in a constant decline since.

Of course it was higher close to launch date. People were checking it out to decide whether or not to buy it.

If you notice, all of the top viewed games are competitive games, which is what GW2 is heading towards.

capnflummox.3082:

What I am trying to say is, “just stopping the comments won’t save the game. only fixing ‘the bad’ will…”

No it won’t. Trust me, people will complain about ANYTHING.

They could give us all free stuff, and someone would complain about it. (I’ve seen it before)

capnflummox.3082:

And, yes, you missed the point. Otherwise, you still wouldn’t be pointing at OTHER PEOPLE’S reviews…

Do YOU like the game? That should be enough, no?

Of course I enjoy the game, but I also read review sites to find new games that I might enjoy. I’m sure lots of other people do as well.

TrickSmartly.7391:

Don’t bother arguing with the “believers.” You waste your words.

Which “believers”? The one’s who believe this is a great game, or the ones who believe it’s already dead?

I guess your sentence is true either way. :P

capnflummox.3082:

Stevoli.8795:

capnflummox.3082:

Stevoli.8795:

Odd, over on mmorpg.com, GW2 is the highest rated MMO out of the entire list.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/rankHype/sOrder/desc

Odd. Media companies make money from good reviews.

((also, if I was sent a free copy (copies!) of GW2 and a bunch of cool promotional stuff from Anet and NCSoft, I’d love the game, too.))

So you’re saying that ANet is the only one that pays review sites? Yeah, I’m sure that’s totally true.

Did I say that? Please quote me if I did. I’d love to read it (for the first time).

You missed the point: don’t give too much weight to a review from a company that has a vested interest in giving good reviews. Make YOUR OWN choice.

Of course you didn’t say it, but you implied it. No I didn’t miss the point, if you notice, there is an official MMORPG.com Review, and then a “User’s Review” section just below it. The ratings on that list come from the user reviews, not the official review.

Thankfully, the pizzeria offers other toppings and crust choices… See the point?

You get it, I get it, people who can’t see past the end of their nose will never get it. Welcome to the age of pop-culture, if 10 million people aren’t playing it (because 10 million people can’t be wrong of course), then they won’t even touch it.

capnflummox.3082:

Stevoli.8795:

Odd, over on mmorpg.com, GW2 is the highest rated MMO out of the entire list.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/rankHype/sOrder/desc

Odd. Media companies make money from good reviews.

((also, if I was sent a free copy (copies!) of GW2 and a bunch of cool promotional stuff from Anet and NCSoft, I’d love the game, too.))

So you’re saying that ANet is the only one that pays review sites? Yeah, I’m sure that’s totally true. If that was the case, Blizzard has enough $ to be permanently fixed in 1st place.

Odd, over on mmorpg.com, GW2 is the highest rated MMO out of the entire list.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/show/all/sCol/rankHype/sOrder/desc

Try following the NPCs next time you do a dynamic event, most of the time the NPCs will talk to each other and start new events.

The story unfolds as you progress in the events.

I’ve seen this type of thread in other games that have housing, or role-playing fluff. People like to complain that the devs aren’t working on “real” content. Truth is, lots of people enjoy the fluff, it’s what keeps them playing.

Luka.6831:

I honestly doubt he meant raids …

I know he didn’t, I was making a comparison. Raids in other games are usually only experienced by a small percentage of the population… just like some of the content in this game (like hidden puzzles)

Oh you mean like raids? Yeah those things that only a small percentage of the population get to experience never go over well.

Oh man I hate that jumping puzzle. I ended up just getting the achievement and passed on the chest :P

uh.. multiple means more than 1.. so 2 votes is multiple votes.

uh.. multiple means more than 1.. so 2 votes is multiple votes.I don’t agree with what you are asking for though, it sounds like a bunch of unneeded complexity when they have much more important things to work on (like bugs, bots, new events.)

uh.. multiple means more than 1.. so 2 votes is multiple votes.I don’t agree with what you are asking for though, it sounds like a bunch of unneeded complexity when they have much more important things to work on (like bugs, bots, new events.)Just run with like-minded people who aren’t “pricks”, maybe join or form a guild.

PS. I don’t know what is going on with this forum, it’s multi-posting the same paragraph over and over.

There is no party leader. Anyone can invite, and anyone can vote to kick.

I prefer it the way it is, I’d rather have multiple people voting to kick a user than have one person with total control.

Shanaeri Rynale.6897:

So. why do have servers again?

You answered your own question. WvWvW. It would mean a lot more if they didn’t allow unlimited free server transfers back in the beginning.

With free server transfers every 24 hours, and the ability to right click “Join” anyone in your friends list (even people on other servers), I think the setup works great.

To the OP, I suggest you make a post on the forums looking for people in your time zone, and then add some of them to your friends list. You can then either transfer to a server that has active players in your time zone, or you can just right click Join them when they are on.

I guess you haven’t played many MMOs. Bots can and will completely ruin the market.

Shinzan.2908:

It’s pretty sad when the best way to make money is to play the TP rather than play the game.

You’d be surprised at how many people just sell to the buy order, rather than posting their own sell order. Same thing happens over in EvE online.

Maybe pick a different password than 12345 next time

Knote.2904:

Add some unique skins that are tied to the zones for people to do stuff in those zones.

That would be pretty sweet, but then they would have to add another currency system, basically a map specific coin or credit that you save up for doing events on a map.

At level 80, people are going to be working on map completions, or farming karma/gold for new gear. Since the karma/gold rewards in lower level events don’t scale up very well, you won’t see any level 80s doing them, unless they are working on map completion.

If they did decide to increase the karma rewards for low level events, people will eventually migrate to the easiest one (since let’s face it, even the most enjoyable dynamic event gets boring after doing it a few times)

The only true way that I can see this working, which I think they tried but failed with, is if they actually increase Diminishing Returns and force people to visit different maps rather than farming one event over and over. They would need to combine it with a system wide increase on the scaling of low level events for level 80s though.

That in itself would cause an uproar from the people who want to be able to play how they want though. It’s really a no-win situation for them over at ANet. The only thing we can do is “wait and see” really.

“Devs” should be more like a Dungeon/Game Master. They should be “in the game” “controlling” things.

Every MMO I’ve been in that has tried that has failed miserably at it. It always ends up being an event that everyone shows up to, causing massive lag, and a complete zerg fest, while the GM spawns waves of mobs.

Then you have people who missed the event, basically crying on the forums because they didn’t know about the event 1 week in advance.

I think the way dynamic events work now is pretty good, they’re just a bit too predictable. If they alternated which dynamic events were active in maps every few days, it would make it feel like things are changing.

Isn’t there an option to turn down particle effects?

bojangles.6912:

I wouldn’t say it is the friendliest community but it is average I would say. Haven’t really experienced anything that made me go, “Oooo this community rocks” nor have I have run into the opposite. For me I would rate this 4th best community I have seen for all the mmo’s I played.

1) SWG
2) ToR
3) WoW
4) GW2

Worst Community for me

1) Tera Online
2) EQ2
3) Warhammer Online (felt nonexistent)
4) UO

Have you ever played LotRO? From what I remember it was ranked #1 friendliest community a few times on some MMO website.

@roqoco

IMO, it should be a balancing act. Rather than solely focusing on preventing actual players from making gold, they need to fix some of these long standing bugs, work on removing bots, and fix the stupid forums already, can I get my quote button back?

Since they included the option to convert gold to gems, they have to keep a tight lock on how much gold you can make. This includes nerfing any possibility of speed runs, nerfing easy rewards, and nerfing easy loot.

It’s always going to be their #1 priority, since the gem store is going to be their cash cow.

In general the people I run in to are nice, but Map Chat is usually full of elitist little punks. Don’t even mention something about a bugged skill point or bugged event, you’ll be told to go back to WoW and called everything from a Troll to a wow employee quicker than you can press enter.

Don’t be afraid of rewards, they’re part of these games, this game is full of them. Rewards are fun.

I have to agree. If they didn’t want this game to be rewards based, then we wouldn’t get rewards after every storyline quest, and every map completion. They need to go one way or the other, not half-kittened like it is now.

Lyuben.2613:

Kits are one thing.

Weapon swapping is another.

Yeah if you want to argue semantics, it’s still swapping out all of your skills for another set of skills, which happens to be from another weapon. (Unless you don’t consider a flamethrower a weapon)

Guild wars 1 had something like that and it resulted in people farming them, A LOT. The thing you seem to be forgetting is once you give certain mobs rare loot, people will start farming them and we end up with a system very similar to quest mobs.

I could see that being a valid argument if tagging a mob made it so no one else could get loot from it, but the way this game works, everyone gets loot. You just need to be there and hit it a couple times.

Champions should be something you want to do because you want to test yourself, if you are doing it for any other reason then don’t. If you need incentives to do in game content then you should really consider doing something else (not an absolute statement).

That too I could see being a valid argument if champions were actually challenging, as they are now you just need a decent number of people there, and the champion goes down fairly quickly. I don’t agree that they should have 100% chance for rare since they can be zerg’d very easily, but they should at least have a small chance to drop something that people can sell.

I guess any way you look at it though, people will take the path of least resistance, and farm the champion that’s easiest to kill, it’s the nature of the beast.

Engineer is great for swapping with kits. I go from pistol/pistol to flame thrower for a knockback and blind, plus the ground fire that I can fire my pistols through. Then I can swap to the grenade kit for another blind and slow plus aoe damage, or switch to the toolkit and throw nails everywhere to slow things, smack a mob with a pry bar, then backflip out leaving a mine on the ground and switch back to pistols.