Guild Wars 2

Woodenpotatoes completed prophecies solo, without henchmen….not really relevant but i thought it was pretty awesome thing nad also since gw1 happened to be mentioned.

TWMagimay.9057:

Caffynated.5713:

SoR should scale with casting time the way it did with energy cost in GW1.

Fast casts (anything 1/2 second or less) would still heal for ~200 with no +healing, the way they do now, but longer casts would scale proportionally to their cast time.

I’d much rather have it work on hit instead of cast. Would make more sense since ele is an aoe-based class after all…

Would be nightmare to balance.

Servanin.5021:

Tempest.1254:

I entirely disagree.

Their model works just fine. It did throughout the first game. It was working just fine up until last week.

The people who bought the game and got something other than what they expected (a WoW clone) have only themselves to blame.

Content locusts have been demanding hamster wheels since a week after release. ArenaNet didn’t have to give in. They chose to go against their design philosophy and manifesto. It’s their game and it’s their choice. That’s fine.

It’s also my choice never to play or give them my money.

GW2 isn’t the same as GW1 though, and wasn’t even last week. Guild wars 1, you could get a few common monster drops and trade it in for the best weapon. A full level 20 set of armor was i think… 1500 gold per piece, plus mats. I think I had the means to buy a Drokknar’s forge platemail set a little after reaching Lion’s Arch.

GW2, it takes 42k karma per piece and access to a vendor that may or may not be up. On top of that, they might not be the affixes that support your build and you need to get superior sigils.

The point here is that both games had power plateu that was basicly achievable for whole population of game…well, gw1 still has.

On this note, why the hell do we have a title track called yakslapper, but no yakslapper title?

Well the subway thing works, except that they give you free bowl of peanuts, however they end up sprinkling peanuts on your sub too….and you´re allergic to peanuts.

What´s the build you love most? Gear for that since it´s going to be rather ard to regear.

Dismissing wvw as a zergfest and thus not needing balance is just blatantly ignorant.

cesmode.4257:

Beraphim.3476:

cesmode.4257:

Beraphim.3476:

Um, no. LFG, fotm and lvl are still there in the same order. That’s what’s triggering it. Just say something more different, the suggestions Kumu gave you are actually fine, it will let you continue talking in map chat.

Assuming that your logic is how the spam algorithm works, it is stupid. I change up a character to make it unique, and it still gets flagged? Kittens

Changing a character doesn’t make it unique, at all. That is to make it harder for bots to spam their messages – if not then bots would be able to spam all the time, day and night, just by changing a single character in their sentence.

Just say something different in map chat and you get unflagged, stop making such a big deal out of something so miniscule.

I can see now you have no idea what the term unique and code mean..

By changing one character I make the sentence unique. It is no longer the same as the previous. Same goes in a database primary key: unique identifier. A characteristic of this is the fact that it is different than its predecessors by at least one character. Doesnt matter of 9/10 characters match, at least one is different. Unique.

ah for….

You were given answer, now could you just accept it even if grammar isn´t perfect.

I had essence drop from the fractals and though, hey i could make an ascended back item…then i took a closer look at the recipe. 80g worth of crafting mats.
Felt like a slap to the face, and frankly that´s how i feel about getting ascended items in general now.

All my alts have been given a death sentence prettymuch, though i doubt i´ll stay long enough to even kit out my main if things continue to progress the way they are.

Minecraft pvp maps have some of the most innovative pvp designs i´ve seen in a while…just sayin.

And now i´m pretty sure it´s a case of troll….severe one.

DegoLocc.5976:

Go underdogs. Down with bland arcade predictable variable-less mindless gameplay.

…apparently chess is mindless game too.
Aguess RTS´ are all mindless games by your definition. Oh and mobas too, they require no skill at all, and are bland as hell, right? no tactics involved.

I´m not even sure how to respond anymore….it´s starting to dawn on me that i´m feeding a troll….

DegoLocc.5976:

It’s simply not enough, and I bought this game because despite what their “manifesto said” I new the moment they announced that they would raise level cap down the road that this game would be your standard grind. And that is good for the games longevity.

You guys can’t name any other TRUE MMO, that have gear stat progression, because there are none. If it didn’t have that no one would play for years and years and years. GW1 was a fluke, it wasn’t an MMO and there is no other game like it. Either move on, or go back to playing it. And just accept what most MMO’s players want because that is who Anet is wisely after.

And could you specify exactly why it matters that gw1 is not an mmo?
Both gw and gw2 are onlinemultiplayer titles.

DegoLocc.5976:

And there isn’t anything you, or extra credit helium voiced badly drawn cartoons can tell me about power creep being bad. I love the power creep, gives me something to try and kill for sport.

You´re kinda missing what powercreep is…like, by a mile.

Powercreep is basicly when new content give bigger numbers, those numbers raise on both you and your foes, therefore you won´t be any more challenged than previously, you´re just seeing bigger numbers. What it does however is obsolete all the older content in the long run.

…powercreep give somtehing to kill for sport…yea right

DegoLocc.5976:

Take gear progression out the game, might as well take gear out the game, and then what do you have? Super smash bros on a large scale? Another arcade beat em up. Stat progression with gear, gives battles interesting variables.

Cosmetic progression(it´s enough, and frankly i don´t know why you bought the game if it´s not…), horizontal progression: trying out new playstyles (without it taking weeks to regear), trying out new professions(without it taking months to level and gear them up), actualy experiencing the whole world (i call bullkitten on many of the players claiming to have done all the content)…vertical gear treadmill is not the one and only way of making progression.

We give the game a power plateu, we have a massive persistent ever changing world where the character you created and the amount of skill you can play with it determine outcome of your battles. Where you as a players are what matters, instead of data on a spreadsheet.

Zaxares.5419:

I use a Staff as my weapon on my Ele, so I can’t really spam skills with enough speed for SoR to pay off. I use Ether Renewal as my self-heal instead. It’s a different story underwater, as I typically use Air for the quick spamming of the first skill, which makes SoR a lot more effective.

I use mostly staff in pve, and i tend to keep SoR on my bar anyway…i just like it that way and barely ever need to use the active anyhow. Staff offers plenty of healing for your whole team as is, SoR is little bit of extra for yourself without needing to stop combat.

DegoLocc.5976:

And the point is, Name one successful REAL MMO, that has no stat progression. And I will stop telling players that they are looking for their casual game in the wrong genre.

Because everything that´s been succesful in the past is automaticaly succesful in the future. And nothing new can ever be as good.

DegoLocc.5976:

You talked about “proven experience and evidence” supporting your claim that gear progression is bad for MMO’s. So let’s see it? I’ll wait.

*sigh…

No it´s not bad for mmo, as clearly demonstrated by the infamous WoW.

It´s just bad for this mmo. Why? For starters the core fanbase of this game has been one that wants power plateu.

Gw1 is not an mmo….and that is relevant how? How does it invalidate the assumption that cosmetic is enough?

Both gw and gw2 are multiplayer online titles.

cesmode.4257:

Kumu Honua.2751:

I see

“LFG fotm lvl 5” 3 times in 3 minutes.

That is not unique at all.

Read it again. this time slowly.

Youll see the 5 was changed to a 4 in one of them, making one sentence different.

Fine, “LFG fotm lvl” written 3 times then.

I do dislike the filtering too though, but it´s easy enough to circumvent…well usualy, sometimes it seems to just jam somehow :/

Clark Skinner.4902:

Is there a skill to tell you when an enemy is about to appear behind you and kill you in 3 seconds when you’re trying to make room in your inventory? Because I can take on a young kraka if I know I’m in combat, but when I get a 2 second handicap due to surprise, or if another wanders in while I’m fighting one, there’s a good chance that I’m going to die.

It´s called skill of moving away from spawn areas.
Failing that, it´s getting in to habit of spamming the key of the defensive skill of your choice whenever unexpected damage starts rolling.

Though handling adittional spawns while fighting is just a case of having to learn to play more effectively.

They want you to try pvp, you never know, might even like it.

It´s been a theme with gw, to mix pvp elements in the pve…or rather, seeing how gw was originaly ment to only have pvp, they added pve to teach people how to do pvp (some missions were basicly tutorials for pvp modes). I can see some of that influence having carried over to gw2.

Clark Skinner.4902:

It’s nice and solo-friendly for guardians, but as an elementalist with a balanced build, these maps aren’t soloable. I feel confined to Frostgorge unless I can find someone who doesn’t mind me following them around.

My staff ele says otherwise, prefectly soloable with right utilities.
*hint Glyph of storms+arcane shield is more than enough defense.

StormGryffen.7638:

Ganzo.5079:

lol nice idea to bridge wich gap?

Exotics vs legendary was a time gap, so whats the mean of increasing stats, and the shift of legendary stats above in the near future?

The statistics gap and the effort gap. Legendary gear will be the best kind of gear you can possess, unless multiple media outlets are wrong on the subject? (If I’m confused about this, please let me know, I hate to be misinformed.) The leap in stats and effort to receive an Exotic vs. a Legendary item will be significant. This has been an item on the table for a long time. This isn’t a surprise. That anyone could feel ambushed by ascended gear, which seeks to offer a more casual experience (though it has not been fully implemented) than Legendary gear seems to be illogical.

Check the media again, they very appointedly say that legendaries are not statisticaly better than exotics, and that each is infact based on a specific exotic. Why they say this? Because players back then were very concerned about the question of legendaries having superior stats, more specificaly everyone was heavily against it.
Now that ascended gear is introduced with better stats, legendary stats need to be raised that they remain max statted.

NastyPiggy.2046:

Erasculio.2914:

It’s interesting to see how much this one has fallen.

The weekend with an event is over? It’s not unusually for a huge drop off after a weekend.

I think he means the general trend is downwards. not the huge drop after event weekend that is just natural.

boozer.7815:

Strang.8170:

On a serious note, because we liked a trait and what it brought into our playstyle, we all were just exploiters that can´t really play?

I didn’t say that and that was not intended. I don’t think that most people realized that EA was NOT supposed to produce a blast finisher and TBH, its Anet’s fault for allowing that bug to stay in the game as long as it did.

Also, the real lesson to be learned here is that when this type of thing happens – ie. some smart guy/gal posts a build that works really well, and then people flock to emulate it, Anet pays attention and then nerfs it. Especially when that same person posts like 100 vids of it…..

Builds ae made overpowered
-bunkers, especialy staff bunkers, that abused the fact that every dodge roll was a blast.
- ….can´t think of anything else

Had they just removed blasts from where they were clearly bugged, it would´ve been fine, bunkers would´ve been taken down a notch, but other builds would´ve survived. You know, the builds nobody ever thought were remotely overpowered.

Also i´d like to point that ea went through multiple revisions in betas, and all the time blasts remained a part of it, i don´t see them totaly unintentional Blasts coupled with actual spells that is). And even if they were, it´s not inherently bad thing. What it did for bunkers was an issue, but that´s it, and it could´ve been handled a whole lot better.

digiowl.9620:

I know that mobs have the same behavior pattern. But i do not have the mental capacity to memorize 1001 different mob patterns. And While armoring up helps a bit, the game strongly favors player action vs character stats on the defensive side of the equation. Meaning that if you trade DPS for armor you will only take longer to eventually die, because your reaction time is still the same and but now your damage output, the one thing that will end the fight (except running away) is considerably lower.

The thing is that armor, vitality and healing ability scales linearly, while DPS, thanks to the crit mechanic, scales exponentially. With high crit damage you can nearly triple the output of in relation to the input. And fury allows you to guarantee crits for its duration.

In essence the game favors quick reaction players with glass cannon builds when dealing with mobs.

There´s a handful of patterns you need to know…many have the universal “dusting” effect and really long activation, rest can be just soaked with defense stats

boozer.7815:

The spell abilities still trigger, do damage, people die, etc..

You serious, that brought a smile on my face.

On a serious note, because we liked a trait and what it brought into our playstyle, we all were just exploiters that can´t really play?
Blasts were there since betas, they´ve been reported before. We all knew they´d nerf the clearly bugged no cooldown blasts. We expected blasts to be maybe reduced to only earth and fire. Some of us even build upon that expectation, one which wasn´t unreasonable by any stretch of imagination.
And once again unintended in itself is not a bad thing. If it´s overpowered, like no cooldown on blasts was, it´s bad thing. But they could´ve tuned it down, without complete removal, it would´ve kept in the good part of the unintended and cut the bad parts…but no.

digiowl.9620:

There is difficult, and then there is annoying. Never mind that when people talk about “skill”, more likely they mean reaction time.

Unless your reaction time is somewhere around 2 seconds, it´s not the issue.

Simple matter of learning that mob A does a high damage ranged attack usualy right after engaging, and also does certain animation beforedoing it. Two simple things and reaction time is not an issue.

Protip: Mobs are stupid, they act the same way nearly everytime.

Efaicia.3672:

My gear became useless because the spec i geared for was useless. useless gear = useless character. Don’t treat me like I havent been on these forums about ele since day 1.

I´m trying but it´s becoming harder…

What exactly was your spec before switching to one you failed with at the cove and what gear did you have?
There´s plenty of viable builds for any gear that was relevant for ae build.

lynspottery.6529:

Warlord.9074:

Its supposed to be hard, the drop tables are better.

Hard is one thing, impossible is totally another. I am not able to explore either of these two Zones on my character because I am constantly “dead” from being overrun by enemies.

There is a difference.

Get better at the game then?
I´m not saying you´re a bad player, i´m saying that you can learn to be better. Orr becomes lot easier when you learn it, as does ss cove.

I like how those zones effectively teach you how to counter cc and bursts.

Bit like kohler in catacombs teaches about dodging and boss attack telegraphs.

Efaicia.3672:

The relevance is how useless my class/spec became over night because Anet thought a spec was too powerful, nerfed it to the ground thereby bottoming out every inch of progress I had made with my character.

You seriously think My complaint is about the Karka damage?

That was rather bad example to give though, since as i said blast finishers wouldn´t reduce karka damage one bit. It would only make healing up sligthly faster.
There´s plenty of valid places where the nerf destroyed playstyles though, i´m not denying it.

I have to go with balthazar, god of fire and butt kicking.

Efaicia.3672:

I logged in today to give it another whirl.
Went to the island with a new spec that had gobs of toughness through earth and some damage with fire and air and still manage 10 points in water to give myself a boost in hp.

first encounter;
1 Karka. Took me to 10% health in one hit (it’s basic attack), hit earth cantrip then my heal, was in fire so I stacked what I could of might and did some decent damage, with everything on CD I went to earth, #4, #5, mob is up, #2 to shield and auto attack ..I was at 10% health again at the end of the fight.

One mob. One. Single. Solitary. Mob.

I vent my frustrations to my guild. I am told to sell everything I have in my bank, in storage..everything.. to gather money to re-gear myself with the stats I need. At this point I am heartbroken and frustrated that everything I had worked for and accomplished on this character was completely worthless, even my stores in my bank. Because I have to completely re-gear, weapons and jewelry and runes and sigils included. Everything I own on this character is worthless now.

Simply because Anet thought blast finishers on a class dependent on comboing were too powerful?

I am ONLY here because of my guild. I will play with them when they are on. I will give no more of my money to Anet. My monthly `fun` money will be better spent elsewhere.

I fail to see how this is relevant to discussion really, karka damage doesn´t change even with blast finishers there.

But incase you want advice, magnetic shield. They pretty much suicide with their ranged volley.

Am i only one who finds that raving asura reminiscent of goemm the mad?

Antiriad.7160:

Btw I just read PS2 allows “2000 players on one battlefield”. I wonder how they can handle that many, as we see bad culling issues in gw2 with MUCH less people though? oO

Completely different engine. No doubt they´ll have different problems with many simultaneous players on small area though.

Blaine Tog.8304:

Munchkin.4137:

I still have blast finishers on my Evasive Arcana. You get to keep them if you never patch.

I didn’t know that was even possible.

Oh to go back in time. ;_;

I think he´s just trolling. Given that game restarts automaticly and installs latest patch.

Laelgon.8046:

Polluxor.5970:

Laelgon.8046:

Chuo.4238:

LordByron.8369:

umm you possible wouldwant tolook to ascended items/infusions recipes…

They possibly surpasses most korean mmorpg grinding requirement….
Also they almost destroyed economy in few days ._.

To craft 12 Ascended items:
3000 tier 6 fine crafting material
12 vials of condensed mist essence
600 globs of ectoplasm
288 skill points

To infuse 12 Ascended items:

3000 Passion Fruits
1200 Vicious Claws
12 Eldritch Scrolls = 600 skill points
240 Mystic Coins = 240 daily achievements

Enjoy your grind.

Right, but how many ascended item slots are there at present? Three. You can also buy infusions with the dungeon tokens.

[sarcasm]
That’s good, you can divide these requirements in 4 parts! You do one part now and when comes the updates you can do the 3 others!
Let me give you this hamster medal.
[/sarcasm]

Not saying it isn’t a grind. But let’s not pretend people need to be gathering 3000 passion fruit this week to be able to play. If I choose to grind content I enjoy for gear I want that’s my decision. I don’t insult your play style, so don’t insult mine.

But what about those of us who feel compelled to do it because of other reasons.
Do not for a second think that competitive wvw guilds will not start demanding for best gear available. It shafts those of us who do have skill to be doing that, but not the patience and time for grinding their way up.
Even playing field was thing that old gw fans were used to, thing that drew in a lot of new customers too and on top of it it was very appointedly made one of the core aspects of the game.

ps. passionfuits are one of the easy parts. Current market price, t6 mats 3000x~20s=60000s=600g, ectos 600x~22s=13200s=132g…or perhaps if you like farming, you could farm for couple of life times +/- few decades.

Fozzik.1742:

There’s only one single way that works. They’ve only provided one effective method of communication that they actually listen to.

Stop playing.

You can just not log in and wait it out, or try to get a refund, or whatever… but it’s really the only thing that works. They aren’t providing any method of dialogue (actual back-and-forth discussion about the issue with devs) or polls or anything else. They are just watching who plays and who doesn’t, and counting up the money.

Thing is though that i want to play, and me playing isn´t going to bring them any money without micro transactions.

Ofcourse i´m talking about the ascended gear and the whole shizzlewhisle.

I´m extremely annoyed byt the changes, but not with the game as a whole. I still enjoy playing, i still want to play, and i still want to give it a chance.

Question is, how do i express that dissapoitment?
Ofcourse i´ll be here on forums throwing my hissy fits and stomping my foot for the off chance that it actualy works, but other than that what´s there to do?
-Mail anet directly?
-Mail ncsoft directly?
-Withdraw any gem purchases? Though i fear this may damage the game and not send clear enough message, i´ll propably end up doing it anyway.
-Throw hissy fits all over the internet?
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I say that if those fires burn a kitten iron blocks also known as golems, they´re hot enough to burn living tissues.

Imho best thing for levelling up is staff.

Reson?
You can throw your traits where ever you want, it´s easy and it let´s you aoe a kitten ton of mobs.

Gather mobs, shockwave, glyph of storms, eruption lava font, flame burst, meteor shower, lavafont. Stand in middle of that and profit.

Glyph of storms, 8 seconds of practical invulnerability from mobs.
Arcane shield, 3 hits of invulnerability.
Mistform, 3 seconds of invulnerability.

Throw those on your bar and you´re pretty darn durable if you´re even passable kiter. If even that´s not enough then you will just need to kite better, lot´s of tips floating on these forums on how to do it.

Ryuujin.8236:

The asura seem to have originally been planned to be a human faction back in GW1: Eutopia as seen by this concept art:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:%22Native_Architecture%22_concept_art.jpg
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:%22Summoner%22_concept_art.jpg
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:%22Andes_Temple%22_concept_art_2.jpg
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Golem_concept_art_4.jpg

When they scrapped utopia campaign, they were left with tons of concpet art and propably even game assets, so they put them into good use.

Fun fact, being stupid is a crime (visit jail level of rata sum).

<edit>…i propably shouldn´t have put that quote and that fact in the same post, completely unrelated, no insults intended.

Quick Mouse.7635:

avoid stacking tonnes of aoe at once as the huge damage spike will generate aggro. spread it out a bit to maintain the same overall dps without generating too much aggro. Good luck!

Simply not true.

Personaly i usualy do shockwave, glyph of storms, eruption, lavafont, meteor shower and lavafont again on top of mob groups in dungeons, and have this far never drawn aggro when i´m not first to attack, or closer to them than anyone else.

If you mean can you get longer boots to go over the embroided leggings?
No, they propably just clip into leggings, but haven´t tried it myself.

Useful with arcane power and when stacking crit dmg…other than that pretty useless.

30/0/10/30/0 staff with glyph of storms, arcane shield and double elementals can do it pretty well with just earth and fire swapping. Soldiers gear for extra survivability.

Though having said that, surviving anything other than normal mobs requires skill to kite things and usage of water and air skills too.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9586/lightarmorwithnamesfina.jpg

Majority of them?

Tha kitten?
I´m not saying it´s op, nor that i want it nerfed.
I´m worried That they will nerf it when the ascended gear hits wvw, given their track record with ele damage.

But anyway, if you don´t believe me, try it out. It works and is pretty darn fun. Naturaly as a spiker your defense sucks, but nonetheless it can do pretty well in 1v1, and it´s awesome at harassing zergs from the flank or rear, or when ambushing people taking camps.

To get more precise picture of the build search youtube for woodenpotatoes, it´s his build originaly.