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Posted by: TJgalon.5012
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You have had 3 years of playing this game. You chose not to play it yet you could still log in and play it at ANY time free of charge, and can even continue to do so!
If I knew that the game would go f2p in 3 years I wouldn’t have spent money on it. I expected things to remain as they were in GW1. I bought the game, so I earned my place in it even 10 years after.
But now I’ve spent $50 for nothing. The “I bought the game” perks mean absolutely nothing to me as I’m not much of a crafting and trading guy. I want to experience the story and combat. I can do that now by creating a new free account and I wont miss a thing.
I was hoping they would address my main concerns with the game a few years down the line, so I wasn’t particularly upset about not enjoying the game so much at the moment. But now it seems I just wasted my money.
You spent 50$ for a game that you can play for 3 years, and you consider all that time to be a waste? if that even 1% true, you not be here complaining, you be pff somewhere else. 50$ for 3 years, that what i call a bargin. there are bad games out there now that you can beat in 6 hours after paying 60$ and people buy them. You payed $50, and got (i forget the number said) 24 major updates, on top of all the free support for then. Almost every other mmo would have charcge you an extra 15$ a month.
BTw, everything you earn in 3 years, 50% of that most likely can not be earned by F2p people, and the rest is so restritied, that I am glad i bought the game.
Since you make the idea so easy, then it might not be at all. I learned that the hard way when it comes to any kind of coding,
maybe a stack of some kind of luck can net you a spirit shard.
Will we see more pets aside from the ones seen in the beta? And suggestion incoming when we switch out animals (not like press the button from one animal to the other I mean changing one of the animals to another from your tamed list) can they keep their names? I switch a hyena from my hyena/snow leopard team for a moa for a short while and then when the hyena comes back into the line up his name isn’t there.
I think they said all the pets they told us about are the ones we’ll get. But I agree about the pet names issue, it would be nice if GW2 remembered Pet Names.
I remember them saying it a database issue, that take up way to much if they allow the remembering of every pet name x 64 possible slot and so on.
Do the math. If every account had a Ranger with every pet and they were all named with the maximum amount of characters, it would take up about 3.5 Gb. Double that for other database stuff. Still all the data would fit on a 5 dollar USB stick.
Or, you know, they could just store the names client side in a .txt file, then check them for inappropriate language on load, like they do now.
Yeah, but it also a database issue, which would take up resource, and then more and more. It something that not easy, and even coming from a ranger like myself and my partner, something not as important as other things. Just saying what I read.
Sounds like this will fix the mesmer issue with that one boss in Hidden Arcana (the one where you get a shield by killing the right color mini mob so you can enter the death zone to dps the boss).
I just did this boss today with my messar, but I not notice a problem, or do you mean by the fact, my illusions could not harm it due to dieing in the field right away.. Because of that, I mostly focus on the other attacks.
We could just not swear, and fix it when the world gets close to the filter.
Still not understanding the problem I guess then, sorry.
World points are account bound, not character bound, or am i not understanding what your saying?
you can clearly tell it was a player mail item, which mean report it,, but i am unsure what the point of the topic, or you just asking if your not the only one?
Now I am curious. What would you need that many mithril ingots for?
The speed always seems fast to me, especially if you compare it to the RL process it is emulating. Sure, a lot of something takes longer but it normally would.
One of the reasons that some forms of crafting are profitable is most likely due to the time it takes.
I agree, if it was quicker, more people do it, or more of them be out on the market quicker.
Is it retroactive?
Or us veterand are going to be cut out of this because we have a higher rank harder to increase?
I may be wrong, but don’t you earn a rank every 5,000 points, for every rank?
darn 3, that kinda figures, but also excepted and fair, hehe
Remember though, when it comes to the speed and ease, if your planing on selling, the time it takes also adds to it.
Do tomes of knowledge provide “XP” to lvl 80 characters, or is it just skill points? I’ve actually never tried one on a lvl 80.
They now give spirit shards after 80, that about it.
Also while I am unsure of the Tyeria mysteries, it work out well since my partner and I, still going for the explorer achievements, and as a result, double rewards then. It might not be something we can earn all at once, but that does not make it bad. Also it gives a use to the boosters we been holding onto. Extra xp, and such.
I do not mind the mastery system. It sorta like, give me to many options and I’ll choose none. This way, with Gliding first anyways, i can ease into it, and still have fun exploring with my partner.
The way I look at it, ignore Halloween, or ignore Hot, or ignore both, or work on both. There no reason why this is a bother. Yeah Halloween more limited, so if that mater, focus on that more, easy answer.
Still restricted. from adding or removing items like before.
Since the MMR patch i never had a game with less than 2 thiefs.Does the matchmaking now ignore class or what?!?! Its worse than ever…Please fix this fast Anet 2 thiefs = instaloose
fyi, no combination = instant lose. a 1,000 different things could happen, and you have a equal chance to win or lose.
pvp gives me like 1-2 gold a hour, and that n win / lost alone, not counting what I earn from auctaly reward tracks. I am not saying it a lot, but it still there. I really have no say on the charges right now, except if it not change, i guess, going to have to limit your self a bit.
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Just don’t follow the meta, there done, and play how you want, bam, problem solved.
There was mention of hope about testing raids before launch, cause of the issue during beta, but unsure what came of that, or how.
There should be no reason to give up at 150 point difference. I had matches, both way where we had a 200 point lead, and suddenly were down 100 points. Quitting early breed trouble, and leaving it up to a team vote would just cause trouble too.
I more or play unranked matches, mostly cause I am still learning, and scared of rank matches, lol. Though not once have I ever thought why can’t i just quit the match. If we lose, we lose, if we win we win, but I play for the fun more or less, and yeah, when i feel better I’ll try rank.
It just a game though, after like waitinf for a match for three minutes, why not go finish the match. it not over till the score hit 500.
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You do not need to farm to play too. So far to date only really a tiny part of fractals i believe, I yet to really devote my time to them so I can’t say for sure, only by other posts, need specific ascended gear and such. All my gold been earn by just playing the game, sure I farm now and then, but I did it as fun, and really yet to use my gold on anything important I guess. I bought extoic armor for my engi, which really only cost 50g ish?, which by the time I even needed it to play a little in dry top / siliverwaste, I had anyways. So far in the beta, I not really seen the need to need new gear, though there are hints Raids may require it, and that fine, It a wait and see, and I look forward to it. I am just glad to be here for the start of HoT, cause of not being here for the start of Gw2.
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More or less my response is, nothing in the gem store is needed to play the game. They are toys and cosmetic. Some things make it easier, sure, but I yet to see a item in the store require me to buy to continue the game. I guess Living story 2 might be the only thing, but I am not sure how far I would count that.
Also I am not sure how to convert the price correctly for what you payed for it, but are you saying you did not get your money worth out of the game? I am not saying these are good reason to pick up the expansion if you feel it not, but it something to think about too.
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I have read so many replies and so many topics.
This is how it goes:
Core game = 50$ (3 Years back)
Core game = 25$ (1 Year back) (I bought it for 30€ = now its 30$)Gem store = 1k gems = 10$ (I have bought over 15k of gems = 150$, and I am sure others have paid even more.)
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Anet needs to rethink their policy, and attitude to those who pay them, because they live on our money, and they need it to survive. Without a paying community they won’t release next expansion or game….
Hate to break it to you, but gem should not count at all. Gems are a donation as you need to buy exctally 0$ in gem to play the game. Any gems you bought was a donation with benefit as you felt the game creator deserve more money for their hard work for the game. At least that how I feel about gem and when people say the deserve treatment for buying them.
Also when I say as a vetern we got a lot, I mean three years of update for the core game. Even though I got the game back in Januray, i still get most of though benefits, and I got the ultimate package when put out. There already a lot coming with the expansion, and truthfully, after 3 years, they deserve to be paid for the work they put into the expansion and the stuff still to come, which will be free update as they always have. I am not sure of there are other MMo like this that do such a thing that not forcing it player to pay them each month.
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I won from worst odds then that. Giving up is dumb. also you still earn points for losing.
oh, hmmm, maybe I will still get it, if it get fix for the future, but I know i still want the three mini.
I am asking a real question, no reason to post a responce like that, I was confused, that all.
How is it scamed if you got the mini?
I also am worried about losing 2 transmutation charges as I change look alot. Would rather keep them
Not to be mean about the situation, but what about having to just not changing a lot for like a month or so? Build up the charges a little so when you feel the need you have them. On avg, you get 3 a month from daily, yeah not a lot i know, on top of how ever amount you earn in pvp for the week.
as a joke, you could farm for new charges with a new character, lol.
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I dont care that new players who only buy HoT also get the core game included.
What I do care about is that veteran players dont get anything for their loyalty.
And second, and more importantly, how much content will we get?Why an expansion is released you want to know what you get as soon as it is released. All the maps, everything. You dont want a list of a few things you will get and guesses what you will get more in the future.
When I buy an expansion, I buy the expansion; not Anet’s coming to the game Soon™, maybe, if we have the resources, which we dont, unless it’s PvE.
We did as veteran get a lot. Some more then other depending on the starting date. I started in January and here we are October. I am sitting on my HoT expansion excited for release. They did give us a player slot, which was added from the outcry, which is cool, free gift I love it, but I was happy before. We getting a lot of stuff, and best of all, core people who don’t want to buy the expansion still getting some of the Pvp and WvW stuff without buying it. Really not sure what you want. It like buying Legend of zelda, when the Zelda 2 came out did you except it for free cause you bought the game? Not really sure on a good example, lol, but it fit. you had a few month now too, to decide on this, and with a couple week left to go you still questioning it, unsure if your mind can be changed now.
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If my computer is working by them, I look forward to the fun times to be had too.
i guess people start farming city maps for transmutation charges. earn 6 in like 2 hours of map points, or less, lol.
In seriousness though, what do you need to change every 5 minute that the amount still earn is so low?
While I do not use the charges a lot, you guys who are upset with the halfing. You use them so much? in my causal play of pvp and such, i seem to earn way to many as it is.
64 was the limit, but I think it been raise just a few more due to free upgrade from say preorders and the like, so maybe it 69 now, i believe.
I pick blue and want to kick green but, lol
Faction idea seem god on paper, but also seem like it come with trouble for say guilds and such.
I will just take random 8 people into raid and do it without a care of class or so. If we fail oh well, it the fun that matter to me
Edit: forgot, to mention, i have a partner i play with, so she my 9th.
Stronghold beta was out too I belive. I remember seeing the marker for it, though with the state my computer is in atm, I could not really play this weekend anyways.
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free player get no daily chest, which I believe to be the best restriction.
Unless I am wrong on this, though are not Pvp modes, and though are World vs World modes. Pvp the lobby to join a 5 vs 5 fight.
I tend to not worry about balance, for classes, as some things will just be like that. I do hope they fix if there is a problem, but I am ready for the release, more or less. It going to be an interesting weekend, but I feel they be ready. If not, for me at least, still plenty I like to do in the core.
I wonder why you not go to the raid section for info on raids, seem odd to me, to find info there.
Not sure on the chore, but I like the current system, where i only need to spend a few minutes more or less, get them done, and then return to playing the game.
In PVP or WVW maybe. In PVE they are a chore that is a ‘what is the point’. Sure they are easy, but my definition of fun is not waypointing around a map to get to 4 events before they are done, visiting the same old easy vistas everyone knows, or hunting around for resource nodes.
There are 12 daily, and i will do them depending on the style. Boss fights or resource gathering. Sometimes I skip the events, but there a few areas i know better then other and I do not mind them. I can also do the WvW which usually has 1 or 2 easy one, heck, i once got 3 done there super quick. Pvp the same, there usually 1 or 2 easy one to do, so my choices are not limited, and what I mean is, sometimes I feel like doing one thing and the daily other. Sometimes they are connected like if i want to spend a lot in WvW or PvP today. But at least with the way it is, even if my daily and my plans don’t match I can still finish them quickly and be done.
I hope HoT will make thick leather a bit more useful.
Not sure on the chore, but I like the current system, where i only need to spend a few minutes more or less, get them done, and then return to playing the game.
I feel like I a misunderstanding. People say it hard to feel the astral bar alone, but I seem to fill it up quickly. My staff skill 1 fires off pretty quickly, dmg and healing myself if the enemy close or my pet as it fight. I can use my other skill, and sometimes I start with my long bow that does good dmg.
I not have trouble with druid and the heal pulseing keep my pet alive much longer without using the heal 6 skill a lot. So I am confused what other are saying this is bad. It might just be my experience with ranger but for the most part, I am enjoying the class, and when with a group, I notice the help i am with the close ranger attackers.
Though I never felt being a ranger before was bad too.
unsure how accurate it is, but it seem on avg Steam would take around 30% of money. so every 10$ gem sale means Anet may see 7$ of it. That a big lost, depending how much they may make, more so during the good market sales. So it might explain why sometimes things on Steam are a bit more expensive on the markets of games.
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