Guild Wars 2

Yeah , I’m a pure MM after all and I really hope that our undead army AL will be fixed in the next update.

Med Kit wins XD

So focusing on Healing power is better than Vitality or Toughness , specially when having Healing Signet , Adrenal Health and inspiring Banners . Am I right ?
( Forget about other stats as I’m just talking about these )

I got necromancer as main , engineer , warrior , mesmer and elementalist as alts.
I have tried warrior 1st , then guardian and thief . Finally , I returned back to my beloved warrior XD.
I think that guardian and thief are boring , specially the thief as he got mana points (Initiatives )

Honestly , Dual Axes are my main weapons ( got GS as second ).
I believe that DA are the best weapons for warriors specially the burst and the fifth skill.
Warrior is one of my favorite professions after Necromancer and Engineer.

Mystic Starfish.2586:

This isn’t really lore related >.>

Yeah , but I don’t know where to post this topic :p

I hope they fix minions AL and issues once and for all XD

Will be any updates on 15-18 November ? ( Updates that include professions/events fixes )

Kardiamond.6952:

Since I read this thread, I started a MM build, to know how bad it is.

And it is…. not thta bad actually! :P

Surprising really! In PVE I gotta say, I have a harder time tagging mobs in DE since I don’t use staff anymore.

But It was more about WvW. It actually pretty decent. I was a powermancer before, and my survivability lacked. I got dps gear, so I died really fast.

But with MM build (20/0/30/20/0) with all traits to benefit MM, and life syphon traits in blood, my survivability really went up a notch. And my DPS is actually really good (I thought it would be the worse thing ever! Dps + MM?)

Here how my fights goes. I see an ennemy, I cast Flesh worm around me.

Cast my chilled focus spell, then my focus #4 and axe #1 for vuln stack. I then explode my bone minions (I can do up to 6k damage if both crit). I switch to dagger and use my elite minion stun and my scorpion CC to keep them in range.

I can burst down people really fast with the amount of Vuln I get. I also have vuln sigil on my weapon, so it stack well.

I had some issue vs mesmer, but if it get bad, just port up to you worm. Life saver, I love my Flesh worm.

Overall, I didn’t try in sPvP, but in WvW it’s really effective. Too bad I miss staff range, but with my worm I can charge in a group, and just port back in safety.

With a minion army, you also hit Door for a lot of damage. Our Elite minion activate hit the door like 10 time on use.

Also note, the buggy Minion AI is still a pain in the kitten I have to charge people for my bone minon to explode, since sometime they just won’t go to them.

But seriously, It’s a surprinly good and fun build!

Finally someone to support my favorite build !!!!

To solve this issue do as I do , I’m specialized on both vitality and toughness.

Our undead army is good in dungeons , it will keep u alive as long as possible if u have much vitality and toughness. ( I’m the last man standing in dungeons and I’m a pure MM that focuses on vitality , toughness and healing power ).
This is my build
http://tinyurl.com/My-Pure-MM-build

My armor set focuses on Vitality and Toughness ( Hearty set )and some healing power.
My main weapon is staff ( got DD too > using it for siphoning in serious situations ).
now I’m level 66 and my hp is 21K, it’s rarely to drop to 10k(thanks to my minions which I rely on the to damage my foe and heal me all the time ).
I’m the last man standing in all dungeons and events because of that I got one of the biggest HP ever and much toughness too , death shroud helps me alot to avoid death.
I believe that MM build is the best for Necromancers.http://tinyurl.com/My-Pure-MM-build

My armor set focuses on Vitality and Toughness ( Hearty set )and some healing power.
My main weapon is staff ( got DD too > using it for siphoning in serious situations ).
now I’m level 66 and my hp is 21K, it’s rarely to drop to 10k(thanks to my minions which I rely on the to damage my foe and heal me all the time ).
I’m the last man standing in all dungeons and events because of that I got one of the biggest HP ever and much toughness too , death shroud helps me alot to avoid death.

Indeed , I believe that D/D are the best weapons for the Elementalest.
This is my build >>
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEMQJAoYhMmcbsx3gjDABFEww4BIhQiQhFNA
You will notice that I focus on fire , then air and earth.

Staff is good ,however I think that D/D are the best weapons to Ele ( That I use all the time).

My 5 side keys are bound to numpad and those are my utility skills. 1-5 are my weapon skills . I use Fire and Air mostly so I bound Fire to mouse 3 , Air to mouse 4 and Earth to mouse 5.

I use Dual Axes and Great Sword , don’t even need a ranged weapon as I can do a AOE damage with both of them. I also can catch my enemy after immobilizing them.

Does anyone get this issue too ?

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

1- We hope that Anet fix their AL and aggro , they should also give us a control panel so we can give them plans.
2- Our minions skills ( their skills not the summoning ones ) should also be affected by http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Minion_Master trait.
3-Lifestealing from Vampiric, Vampiric Master should be affected by healing power.
4- Finally , it’s better to give minions our stats or part of them so they can get any use from us.

It’s better if Anet make these suggestions during the big November update.
If they do so , every necromancer will be happy .

Josher.9612:

Wondered about this since beta and can’t comprehend why its not implemented. Also, why don’t the weapon icons match the actual look of the weapon? There are a bunch of weapons that have a default icon. If you could preview, this wouldn’t be an issue.

Nooka.8390:

Yes please add this ASAP. I would really love to see some of the weapon skins. I think it can be done through a pvp vendor, but that’s silly. Just let me preview from the TP.

Yea , these too

LOCO.1785:

No, my argument is mounts serve no purpose other than looks. We already have speed buffs and WPs for traveling, so why do we NEED mounts? We don’t, they don’t fit with the way the game was designed. As I said, the ONLY argument for mounts is for looks, which is not a strong argument either.

Have YOU actually seriously thought about how mounts would work in this game? Can you imagine trying to ride your mount through a zone like Orr? All kinds of issues start popping into my head and I haven’t even given it much thought. I’d rather the devs fix the current problems with the game before they dive into something of this magnitude.

Of course you are right !!!
We should concern about bugs before any suggestions , like minions AL and bugged events.

Whenever I rotate my camera on edge ( I’m in mountains terrain ) , I can see the entire map and even through walls which makes the combat too hard.
Can you fix this frustrating and annoying bug , please !

No more hatred here !!!!
Stop giving your opinions ( both sides ) as I think it’s enough for Anet to decide !!!
This will be the last reply from players as we are waiting Anet reply to this >>
Can Anet tell us their thoughts on mounts for God’s sake !!!?
Can they end this long arguement , please !!
(( We will agree whatever choice Anet make as we believe that they know the best ))

Can Anet tell us their thoughts on mounts for God’s sake !!!?
Can they end this long arguement , please !!

Yea , we should be allowed to preview any equipment before buying it which help us decide either to buy it or not.

LOCO.1785:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

castlemanic.3198:

that’s one zone out of the entire map, and i know how frustrating it is, i’m at orr right now. for there to be an entire feature based on a single zone is far from reasonable.

It’s not a single zone !!!!! Many maps have the same issue !!

Really? I can’t think of any.

Also, are you guys just ignoring speed boosts or what? Most classes have some form of speed boost, which is essentially what your claiming you need a mount for.

Players should specialized in power/conditions instead of swiftness build , it’s a waste of skills and traits !!! .

Any one got info. about it ( not from this site https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/november-2012/ ) ?
Is it an expansion ? If yes so it has new weapons or races/professions , hasn’t it ?

So you hate MM because of their bugs , check my topic which gives suggestions about our minions >>
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Suggestions-for-minions-that-all-players-agree-with-them/first#post644124

castlemanic.3198:

that’s one zone out of the entire map, and i know how frustrating it is, i’m at orr right now. for there to be an entire feature based on a single zone is far from reasonable.

It’s not a single zone !!!!! Many maps have the same issue !!

BaconCatTheGreasy.9542:

I don’t agree with them.

Are you a necromancer ?!

Why are you disagreeing ?

1- We hope that Anet fix their AL and aggro , they should also give us a control panel so we can give them plans.
2- Our minions skills ( their skills not the summoning ones ) should also be affected by http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Minion_Master trait.
3-Lifestealing from Vampiric, Vampiric Master should be affected by healing power.
4- Finally , it’s better to give minions our stats or part of them so they can get any use from us.

Zoid.2568:

Add mounts for lvl 30, 60 and 80 would be a good idea if they won’t reduce the travel cost and different types of mounts with different options how to get them.

TYPES OF MOUNTS

lvl 30 mount – 90% increased movement speed
lvl 60 mount – 180% increased movement speed
lvl 80 mount – 250% increased movement speed
Land Mounts
Underwater Mounts
Land + Underwater Mount

WHERE TO GET MOUNTS

Racial Mounts – 3 mounts for each race, 1 for 30,60 and 80. 15 racial mounts in total.
lvl 30 mount cost 1g (Land)
lvl 60 mount cost 3g (Land)
lvl 80 mount cost 15g (Land + Underwater)

Dungeon Mounts – Traded for tokens by completing explorable mode.
All level 80 mounts. Cost 10 000 tokens.

Black Lion Mounts – Purchasable in the gem store and dropped by Black Lion Chests.
lvl 30,60 and 80 mounts. Land and Underwater. Event-special mounts.

33% increase speed is enough !!!

It should be a utility skill and mounts shouldn’t have a skills too. There should be a command panel that allow us to call on/off them.

Dan.3814:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

I’m a MM and specialized in Vitality , toughness and healing power.
My main weapon is staff ( got DD too > using it for siphoning in serious situations ).
Now I’m level 64 and my hp is 19k , it’s rarely to drop to 10k(thanks to my minions which I rely on them to damage my foe ).
I’m the last man standing in all dungeons and events so I think that MM is the best build for the necromancer and it’s even better than condition master.

It could be too that the mobs don’t think you are a threat so you aren’t getting any aggro (or not much) until you are the last man standing. (Also vitality isn’t a good thing to spec into as a necro. You get dimishing returns at higher levels. Or so I’ve heard.)

To the OP:

I’m sorry. I want to be a MM as well, but as others have pointed out. MM AI, such as not aggroing when needed, and then getting undesired aggro combined with a lack of regen on minions and other misc bugs, it just isn’t a viable build, especially in dungeons, where picking up unwanted aggro can end up in a wipe.

I personally prefer stacking 15-25 bleeds that last for 10-50 seconds and tick for 160 dmg onto 5 other targets. During which we get a stack of 10 might from BiP. Conditionmancer is one of our class’s best builds. It’s just too good to pass up. Atleast until we get bugs fixed and/or buffed. But there is nothing to stop you from disagreeing, or just playing a build for flavors sake.

I didn’t say that Conditionmancer is bad , however it’s just as good as MM. All of my mates in dungeons die more than I do which is very good because of repairing cost .
I really hope that Anet fix all minions issues in the November big update , but MM is still perfect. You have mentioned that “Conditionmancer is one of our class’s best builds” so MM is one of our class’s best builds too XD. I don’t like Conditionmancer because of our well’s long recharge time.

Sir Meta.3402:

So you are saying it is possible to use minions at higher level even they seems so weak ?
> Vitality , toughness and healing power.
Can you provide more details?
You are the only one I saw that thinks MM is good at all so you either just like it as is or
found a way that works.

Indeed , as I mentioned before >> My HP is the biggest one in the game ( when all players down-level to my level). I focus on Vitality as I siphon health from my enemy as long as I breath via Vampiric , Vampiric master and Blood-thirst traits. So it’s rarely to drop to 70%.
I focus on toughness too to absorb much damage that my minions can compensate it by siphoning,
Finally, the healing power is for one thing which is Mark of Blood ( Staff ) that keeps my undead army alive as long as possible.
This is my build to be clear , http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQQQNAW4YjEal61aua07JApHRT91TK4GcIF3KNA;TAB5WCtkap2SpFlNGbE2YtxZj0mFEjGOQsh4BB4BB
I rarely swim so I don’t care that I can’t use flesh golem in water , however I hope that Anet allow us to use it underwater. As for the issue that our minions agro many foes , just keep walking and they will teleport to u automatically. In dungeons my minions don’t die quickly as striker mentioned as I use mark of blood to keep them alive , if they die , it won’t be any problem as I got -20% recharge on minions skills so I can resummon them quickly so I can keep 3 minions alive out of 6 all the time.

I’m a MM and specialized in Vitality , toughness and healing power.
My main weapon is staff ( got DD too > using it for siphoning in serious situations ).
Now I’m level 64 and my hp is 19k , it’s rarely to drop to 10k(thanks to my minions which I rely on them to damage my foe ).
I’m the last man standing in all dungeons and events so I think that MM is the best build for the necromancer and it’s even better than condition master.

I’m a MM and specialized in Vitality , toughness and healing power.
My main weapon is staff ( got DD too > using it for siphoning in serious situations ).
now I’m level 64 and my hp is 19k , it’s rarely to drop to 10k(thanks to my minions which I rely on the to damage my foe ).
I’m the last man standing in all dungeons and events so I think that MM is the best build for the necromancer.

Will it affect all of these >> http://www.gw2db.com/traits/2371-inspiring-battle-standard
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/60-healing-signet http://www.gw2db.com/traits/1083-adrenal-health

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_the_Dolyak ( Superior ) ??

We won’t be able to use our skills and buffs during riding so we won’t get extra swiftness.
Mounts should give us the normal swiftness that can come from any class.
Many players create builds that specialized in swiftness ,because it’s the only way to get it.

So ?? anyone has the same suggestion ?

To see how great mounts will be , check these awesome ones from Perfect world game.
I don’t play it anymore , but I just loved it’s mounts.

http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/mount-r.php

I believe that necromancer is meant to be a leader of his own undead army.
I always played as a minion master in gw1/2 , I hope that Anet focus on MM issues in the nearest update and fix most of them.
I will be grateful if we got a different skin and a control panel for our minions. XD

Bad thing for necros that Healing power just affects Signet of the Locust which is useless.
I hope that Anet team make Vampiric master , Vampiric and Vampiric precision affected by healing power.

Ya , it’s better to allow us to continue other daily events next day.
Some people may be busy one day and have a free time next so they can do the daily twice.

merch.1026:

your mark of blood (staff 2) give’s regeneration so healing power is useful for that.

As it’s not much useful ,
it’s better to focus on toughness/vitality instead of healing power/vitality.

Wayfarer.2051:

There are 2 effects!
Siphoning Health is unique to Necromancers and does not scale with healing Power, however it DOES get increased with Boodthirst. Vampiric, Dagger2, Vampiric Precission, and Signet of the Locust scale with it, Vampiric Master and Vampiric Rituals does not, but it’s considered a Bug.

STEAL Life is an effect by Sigils, Runes and Combos and DOES scale with healing, but not with Bloodthirst.

So Anet should fix this bug !!!
So if I’m a MM and using staff , I won’t benefit from healing power a lot.

We refused to be forced to give up on a utility slot just to make as faster , equip a weapon that grants swiftness or get a trait that do so.
That’s why we need mounts , unless Anet give us something that grants us swiftness without having 9 skill slots instead of 10 !!

Does healing power effect lifestealing somehow? ( vampiric master , bloodthirst and vampiric )

I hope that our undead army AL will be fixed in The next big update that should be applied in mid of November.
I’m a MM after all , I’m the last man standing in dungeons and events.

penatbater.4710:

No to all accounts. The only thing that mounts should add are cosmetic only, like minipets.

That’s what I have said !!!
Mounts should be rideable ,but they must be as fast as swiftness. ( just cosmetic )
Like a necromancer riding a demonic horse or shade and an engineer riding a machine.
As I mentioned before , riders should be allowed to resurrect , farm and search while riding.If we can do these while we are riding , what is the problem in them ?

It’s really nice to have a beautiful mounts in gw2 , however we should be able to resurrection, farming and searching while we are riding them.
I hope that they have the same speed as swiftness do.
In this way no one will be sad