gear, a mix of knights & zerker, cleric with healing staff and some vitality trinks
I made this build to reduce time on static field, as support my goal is to cc as much and often as possible. use AoE dps between all the cc skills the staff provides. with static field on a 31 second cool down you can support your group out of combat with basically perma swiftness.
should rename the thread to herpa der|p. no really though its not a “flaw”, it’s an advantage… and only a very small, tiny almost insignificant advantage. I’d gladly trade
out vapor for an out of combat weapon swap or even a buff to damage.
Why are people talking like Mag has never been curbstomped before? Like we’ve never fought in imbalanced match ups as the underdog. I can understand people wanting to gloat because they hate Maguuma and “haha, you’re losing” but this isn’t anything new.
it’s not so much that people are gloating; it’s really a chance to answer the question. Truthfully, a majority of Maguuma forum posters come off as sore losers/poor sports. most of the time if i group with a Maguuma player in WvW we have friendly, funny conversation. In contrast, the Maguuma forum warrior comes off rather …. bitter.
I would say it has spontaneous moments like that not involving siege.
I dunno, it’s just hard to take GvG as a game mode seriously as it is in Guild Wars 2. If I search YouTube for “guild wars 2 gvg 20v20”, I get this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5X9ERjoMcM . The first fight is 40 people fightin for 30 seconds.
Like, for fun? For training? Sure. As a separate game mode? No.
you base your entire perception of what GvG can be based on 1 YouTube video? grow an imagination plz!
You’re the one proposin a game mode! Burden of proof is on you! =) You’re free to tell me why it’s interestin to do or watch. So far all I’ve seen is stuff like “wah wah wah, the name has Guild Wars and Guild Wars 1 had 8v8 so now we need 20v20 in a complete different game”.
I get that some people are doin it but some people are doin WvW as quaggans too.
I provided examples, obviously you didn’t even read them or you did and your just trolling. I’m assuming the latter based in your standoffish attitude since your 1st post. with that said, don’t expect further responses as I consider your posts troll posts.
I would say it has spontaneous moments like that not involving siege.
I dunno, it’s just hard to take GvG as a game mode seriously as it is in Guild Wars 2. If I search YouTube for “guild wars 2 gvg 20v20”, I get this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5X9ERjoMcM . The first fight is 40 people fightin for 30 seconds.
Like, for fun? For training? Sure. As a separate game mode? No.
you base your entire perception of what GvG can be based on 1 YouTube video? grow an imagination plz!
would be awesome too have maps like wvw were guilds can fight eachother!
not sure if seriouse or trolling lol, they have that it’s WvW, we need a smaller structured outlet with deferent modes: king of the hill, capture the flag, CTF with multiple area captures ect.
King of the Hill? Isn’t that just defendin a fortified or elevated location? We already do that. As well as capturing multiple areas, we do that too. I guess we don’t rush into people’s bases and take their flags but we do rush into people’s bases.
no to all of the above; WvW is nothing like what GvG should be. WvW isn’t structured and has siege. WvW does not have capture the flag… period. WvW lasts a week and includes all members of a server. in opposite GvG should last idk… 20 min and only include guild members. I can go on and on about how WvW is nothing like what GvG should be.
would be awesome too have maps like wvw were guilds can fight eachother!
not sure if seriouse or trolling lol, they have that it’s WvW, we need a smaller structured outlet with deferent modes: king of the hill, capture the flag, CTF with multiple area captures ect.
while a GvG arena sounds interesting think about how many player on your server are doing active GvG 50 ? 75? 100? that just a small fraction of the people on the servers. I doubt Anet would put effort to create and balance something like GvG while they struggling already with the spvp/wvw balance.
A lot of guilds do not set up a structured GvG because there is not an official in game outlet. If Anet provided one, more guilds would participate. In addition, having an official GvG structure would draw more people into playing the game in general. As for balance they already balance for WvW, GvG would not need to be balanced separately.
Also as for now all the GvG vids go like that: we buff might, then jump in, jump out, jump in, jump out and then we either die or live. In my opinion GvG in its current state isn’t appealing enough to a broader mass, while it really almost comes down to: how good we are prepared and who has the better team composition. And yes of course someone will just post the gw2gvg site with 30-40 guilds making GvG but still its a BIG minority.
There is more strategy involved, I’m not going to go into detail but your view is very watered down and generalized. “BIG minority” lol u lost me there the creation of the leaderboard and guilds participating means there is a demand.
As we already read the current GvG is different from the GvG as in GW1, it is a playermade mode. If you want your own GvG arena you must make it more exciting(less a "who will zerg down the enemy first) and more popular with the broader mass.
WvW is not GvG, the guilds setting them up have to take up queue slots. Further, the matches can be griefed… not cool. Moreover, if Anet provides official structure for GvG they can enable additional modes. Not just and Arena. Let the dev team think outside the box on this one. Having more outlets for pvp guilds to have fun in is good for the long term health of the game.
I have edited the op with this resource, very nice! Although I am disappointed the community has to make their own leader boards for something that should already be incorporated into the game. How can we have a game called Guild Wars 2, without any guild wars? Maybe rename the game World/Server Wars? Anyways lets get some more support for GvG. Anyone have additional resources?
Did the minute men of the colonies in the american revolutionary war complain about the British zerg when they were decimating them with guerilla attacks?
Anet will complain when 1/3 of their pop leaves for a better game cuz their mechanics blow for player vs player…
It will be heaven, all the starter mmo’ers will be left with each other in zerg land.
starting with you, TODAY… one can only hope… right?
mags PvF warriors are #1 Trolls you guys have that hands down, you can chest thump that all you want, just like how super leet your n/a is. we know everyone else is garbage! <3 mag u guys are the best at everything, I wake up in the morning and think…. how can I be more like mag? these kids have it all figured out!
Thanks but it’s not hard to be better at PvF than EA.
We’ll never be as good as BP with the glorious Calvin with them.
I am not sure about this, Snake.
Before this match-up, I heard Calvin mentioned every now and then in conversations. I have to admit, that raised my expectations so I am quite disappointed to see the real thing right now. The only thing that makes Calvin remotely interesting is that he seems to be the only Dragonbrand player who makes his intentions clear, as opposed to all the passive-aggressive posts from his fellow Dragonwagon passengers. This said, I find that Calvin is overrated as a troll and his provocations are rather crude and unimaginative. In fact, Sol puts a lot more effort into his posts and does not rely on his reputation so much. I’d argue that Sol is an underrated troll but that isn’t relevant to the current discussion. Basically, I’ve seen far better trolls, people who rarely repeat themselves and make their true intentions a lot less obvious. I would equate Calvin with RC Cola. A few people might consider it better than the competition while the majority of Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola drinkers never even heard of it.
mags PvF warriors are #1 Trolls you guys have that hands down, you can chest thump that all you want, just like how super leet your n/a is. we know everyone else is garbage! <3 mag u guys are the best at everything, I wake up in the morning and think…. how can I be more like mag? these kids have it all figured out!
idk I was thinking 3 open field areas that are kinda like “king of the hill” objectives. in that open field it is void of siege. the only way to cap the area is to click a flag, the flag has a cap durration that the enemy servers must interrupt to keep you from taking the objective. server holding he objective gets some sort of benefit for having it, increased for having 2 and increased again for having 3. ( additional pt tick or yaks move faster)
I’m all for making it more difficult to run large groups. For instance, anet could make the commander icon only visible to his squad, keeping the current squad cap. The system in place with the whole commander icon supports “mindless zerging” allowing for a more casual player to find the action.
Dull egotistical RP when ur 5 man group are watching me duel one of ur members and notice hes losing and u guys jump in…
SO BAD.
Are you same NS guild thats on DB? In that case continue to be bad by running away from me in 1v1 situations and turning around to fight when your guild mates show up in distance. Same goes to Omen, Agg, NNK, and BP. I have yet to have any of them fight me in 1v1 situation without running.
simply not true, every player in DB fights 1v1 until the bitter end. everyone on every other serve runs away to their eagerly waiting guilds. FACT! ; )
there is a solution, ask Anet to provide GvG sPvP (5, 10, 15 and 20 player) it dsnt have to involve WvW. I come of a little more harsh in text, sry for that. I like the way WvW is now and I don’t want the “squeaky” wheel to get greased, so I post in these kinds of threads. I do agree skill lag needs some fixing not the large group. There is a diff between large group and Zerg… code dsnt know it but we do.
jscull the point is I have played smaller scale, not just huge zergball, I don’t even consider 25-30 people a huge group large yes but c’mon 3 raid groups of 40 ; )
why do people continue to believe WvW is meant to be balanced? If you don’t have the numbers to compete with a larger group then don’t engage them. There are more ppl in large groups than small groups … so what that just means a majority of people like to run in large groups. really I like to run with my guild sometimes we can field 30 ppl sometimes we field 5 to 10. There are some guilds that field 50+ they are organized and in some sort of voice com. don’t QQ just because we want to play with our friends in large organized groups. I personally think if you don’t want to encounter large groups then go sPvP or PvE or…. log out.
Sorry, but i 100% guarantee “zerging” is the ONLY form of pvp you have ever achieved success in. Once you can win fights without a zerg, actual solid pvper’s never go back to zerging. In fact the number relied upon to win fights decreases as skill increases. Otherwise, you wouldnt stick with your 20+. It’s like the FORD commercial “WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND THAT!”
WvW is meant for large scale fights, bottom line once you get that it’s obvious the large group isn’t going anywhere. (I did very well in 2v2 3v3 arenas as well as Rated BGs) I was also very successful in large scale & small scale world pvp. There is a place for small scale pvp it’s called sPvP try it out! I personally don’t like sPvP in gw2 I’d love to see some arenas though. It’s much more difficult to run a large organized group than a smaller one, much more communication is required. I’m sure that’s why you want smaller groups, easy mode for you… right?
why do people continue to believe WvW is meant to be balanced? If you don’t have the numbers to compete with a larger group then don’t engage them. There are more ppl in large groups than small groups … so what that just means a majority of people like to run in large groups. really I like to run with my guild sometimes we can field 30 ppl sometimes we field 5 to 10. There are some guilds that field 50+ they are organized and in some sort of voice com. don’t QQ just because we want to play with our friends in large organized groups. I personally think if you don’t want to encounter large groups then go sPvP or PvE or…. log out.
It’s just that a few sore losers on forums always give Maguuma a bad name. They don’t represent Maguuma, the server.
Maguuma has always taken pride in our chest-pounding and forum warrior-ing. We don’t care about PPT, we don’t care about keeps, we just care about that #magswag.
magswag always reminds me of the question “Would you like fries with that?” I heard all mag players work the drive thru…. FACT!
Are you insinuating that we should judge people based on their socioeconomic status and form of employment?
I’ll leave your interpretation entirely up to your personal bias.
It’s just that a few sore losers on forums always give Maguuma a bad name. They don’t represent Maguuma, the server.
Maguuma has always taken pride in our chest-pounding and forum warrior-ing. We don’t care about PPT, we don’t care about keeps, we just care about that #magswag.
magswag always reminds me of the question “Would you like fries with that?” I heard all mag players work the drive thru…. FACT!
I’m so surprised so many keep thinking DB haxxxxx. Lol. That makes me laugh a lot.
For me it’s not so much the rampant zoom hacking and the flying robots. It’s the fact that fighting against bandwagon servers means we encounter way too much skill lag for big fights to be very much fun. If all I get to do in WvW is auto-attack it’s not really worth playing. I honestly don’t know how you guys who play in the blob tiers can stand it.
Even without transfers this match-up would still be in favor for DB…
That’s not the point I’m making. I’m saying that there’s so many of you in one place that the game ceases to work properly I don’t care about the score but I do care about being able to use my abilities. Again, I honestly don’t understand how the people in the higher tiers can stand this nonsense. Do you guys enjoy pressing 1 all the time? In my opinion it leaves a bit to be desired lol.
I’m not blaming all of Dragonband. You can’t keep people from bandwagoning onto your server and dooming the rest of you to massive skill lag. Also, Arenanet is why we’re all in this matchup anyway so they flat out suck a kitten for ruining our WvW experiences in general.
i usually don’t catch that kind of lag unless all 3 servers are fighting in one spot.. some lag but not the i can only press 1 lag.
Many servers, due to how stacked the top few are now, would not have the numbers to field a 5th map, and, indeed, some cannot even fill the 4 that are available now. Most of the improvements that I can see coming to WvW will be of the mechanics variety, rather than content due to the very nature of the game type. I could see edits happening to add more objectives to existing maps; however, at this point, I think entirely new maps are out of the question until populations stabilize and disperse across all of the available servers.
Currently the borderlands are a copies of 1 map, they could design additional maps and put them in some sort of rotation. 3 diff bl maps with additional maps in the rotation. that would mix things up quite a bit.
Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.
Even with the best intentions, everything does not always go as planned. We had hoped to get the changes in for today’s reset, but it simply was not feasible to do so with the confidence that nothing was amiss. I completely agree with the criticism about having announced the plan and then having to change it, that’s my fault and something I shouldn’t have done. This system is still inbound and I’m fighting as hard as I can to make sure it gets in as soon as humanly possible. There are, however, a lot of moving parts to any change like this and we have to make as sure as possible that none of those parts are going to fail. I share your disappointment as I am very excited to get this change out to all of you and wish we could have done it today.
hope in one hand kitten in the other, see which one gets full first, Anet. In addition, all the wishing in the world won’t get your code right… trust me on this one. Anet take this advise to heart and implement it for happy customers: “under promise and over deliver!” do that and you won’t have nearly as many disappointed customers.
/sign
really! if the content isn’t ready don’t tell us you are going to to do something on a specific date and not follow through. The funny thing is this is one of the first changes that the WvW community embraced right off the bat, I didn’t see any QQ threads until Anet broke their promise.
stay classy Anet. – (enables WoW subscription-back to rated BGs)
im in agreement this thread should have been locked earlier and imo some of the posters recieveing a temporary ban. thx anet for deleteing the worst posts but still a lot of it going around
I don’t think anyone got banned, but posts removed none the less.
I don’t think future matches can be predicted as its random on reset. With that said I don’t think mos is going to have the prediction feature anymore.
1) Tier balance kinda a non issue at this point
2) DB has a fantastic community and should definitely be considered as a home to any player/guild considering a transfer
3) TC tries to recruit too so stop being a hypocrite
4) DB has cookies and pies
5) DB’s beaches are not tarnished, they are rather clean and enjoyable.
6) NARF
FA also has a great community too. I know you’re only looking out for your server, but don’t you think Mayoken/Noodles etc. are being a little overzealous in their attempts to recruit any and every person/guild they can lay their hands on? I used to cringe when I saw JQ copy-paste their recruitment thread as a response to any guild looking to transfer. Don’t be that guy.
And we filled out our SEA slot which was severely lacking, whereas people on your server are attempting to stack timeslots which already have a respectable presence.
Mayoken said it himself and it’s been openly acknowledged; DB has weak oceanic and good NA. Rethesis is primarily NA-based. Get my drift?
Narf doesn’t work on me, sadly. I’m not trolling, I’m stating facts and looking out for FA which has been left in a slightly worse-off position than DB has.
But please, by all means, keep using NARF! to try and deflect.
this thread isn’t about noodles or mayoken so yes a NARF is in order; so lets get back on topic. RE hope you find a server that you enjoy playing on.
As if DB isn’t stacked enough already; if you care about balanced tier, FA should be the only server in Tier 2 that you’d consider. Stop asking people to move to DB. Meanwhile, FA has lost two of its more prominent guilds, both of which played during the NA timeslot.
3) TC tries to recruit too so stop being a hypocrite
I believe TC has stopped actively recruiting in the manner DB has once it hit full status.
RE hope you guys find a HOME, not where people want to use you most.
As if DB isn’t stacked enough already; if you care about balanced tier, FA should be the only server in Tier 2 that you’d consider. Stop asking people to move to DB. Meanwhile, FA has lost two of its more prominent guilds, both of which played during the NA timeslot.
1) Tier balance kinda a non issue at this point
2) DB has a fantastic community and should definitely be considered as a home to any player/guild considering a transfer
3) TC tries to recruit too so stop being a hypocrite
4) DB has cookies and pies
5) DB’s beaches are not tarnished, they are rather clean and enjoyable.
6) NARF
I don’t care about the score but I do care about being able to use my abilities. Again, I honestly don’t understand how the people in the higher tiers can stand this nonsense. Do you guys enjoy pressing 1 all the time? In my opinion it leaves a bit to be desired lol.
good job toasters!!