Guild Wars 2

1. Reaper
2. Chronomancer
3. Dragonhunter

Reaper is same selfish necro we had for a loooooong time but at least now he will be very fun to play.
Chronomancer is a simple must have buff.
Dragonhunter is OK.

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Most ppl do not know, most zerk parties are just a figment of imaginations…

So much this. A lot of people that post “exp zerk” LFGs have absolutely no idea what is food, stealth, combo fields, stability, or why Retreat is useful not only because of swiftness.

Andraus.3874:

This is basically what the trinity boils down to: it allows players to have more challenging fights as you need to have players work together in timing certain skills to keep the rest of the party alive or at optimal performance.

Nah. That depends on how devs design stuff. It is possible to create hard and interesting fights with gw2 roles.

Eurhetemec.9052:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Forcing damage is bad design, forcing mob unpredictability / non telegraph is bad design.

No.

By that logic, PvP is bad design. Yet we constantly hear from people, including, I believe, you, that PvP/WvW is better designed, better balanced and plays better than PvE – and I agree, it is and it does.

Stop mixing up pvp and pve. They are completely different. Thank you.

Eurhetemec.9052:

Forced damage isn’t inherently bad design (you will not be able to argue that it is rationally, I predict, because it’s not a rational case you’re making – prove me wrong if you like) – I will agree that mindlessly forcing lots of damage is crummy – but forcing you to choose when to take damage and inevitably taking some is NOT bad design when you have a heal and so on built into every character.

In trinity mmo with tanks and healers it is completely normal. In gw2, however, devs give you all necessary tools to completely evade all damage from the boss if you are skilled enough. Forcing unavoidable damage ignores combat system and makes no sense.

Eurhetemec.9052:

Non-telegraph is bad design if the damage is significant and intended to be dodged, but if it’s chip-away, then, no, you’re wrong – PvP/WvW is absolutely full of damage which has little-to-know telegraph, it’s just that it’s not high-damage stuff.

You are mixing up dungeons and pvp/wvw again. Stop it please.

If we get no new dungeons or fractals or at least something instanced then i am out.

Waiting at a safe range from a boss while he is stuck in combat with you and can’t hit you or reset his hp looks kinda fishy to me. Unless it is arah where designers forgot to replace placeholders with actual bosses that fight back.

Did not read lol.

Pls add sprint to gw2 \o/ this way you can run faster (lets say 50% faster) and degenerate endurance without making swiftness a debuff

Ummm keeping boss at 1% is not an exploit?

Alice.5360:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

We will be going after Mordy for two years at least at this rate.

Or we will get “press 2 to win” in the end of new personal story

This minor trait with chill on fear is kinda odd. Makes sense if it is adept or something. What if i want to fear someone off a cliff? My victim will have enough time to think and use condi removing thanks to walking speed my fear will give.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

lordkrall.7241:

I have seen plenty of people on reddit complain about the lack of support.

I think people need to step out of the box and see that boons is not the only way to support allies.
Chill is a great way to support your group, since it makes the enemy much easier to deal with.

maybe in engaging varied encounters that require strategy… unfortunately there aren’t any of those in GW2 right now. Hopefully they introduce some in HoT. There is no need to chill an enemy when you have 100% block and vigor uptime and 25 stacks of might.

Necro’s offer awesome support in the form of high weakness and chill uptime… unfortunately the game does not need that kind of support in its current iteration. It seems easier to give one class useful support instead of changing the way the entire game works, thus the pleas for “standard” group support.

I chill bosses a lot in fractals on my ele

Well… i really hope they saved support skills for the stream. So far it is same selfish necro but with gs.

Almost every thread that has something like “any new content coming before hot?” or “this is broken pls fix” you just go and blindly defend every anet’s move and tell people to do some stupid things like “Filled up the wardrobe with all currently obtainable skins?
Gotten the Fractal Tonic? Gotten all legendaries?” . May i ask why?

EcoRI.9273:

Dromar.1027:

EcoRI.9273:

Um lets be real here guys. Running is the meta, not DPS. What we need to do is nerf mobility so no one can speed run anymore! PS. its called speed run for a reason, otherwise it be speed killing dungeons or speed killing map completion.

The goal is to create team variety with the armor sets; not make the game slower.

But You know there is a cool way of tanking? You cripple the boss, get swiftness and just run circles around him. Another reason to nerf mobility!

Lol thats a thing in EVE online. Called speed tanking. You fly around so fast that enemy can’t hit you.

They still have to release that big feature pack with new traits and conditions. And then they will have to fix all the mess they made with it. That will take some time.

Dawnbreaker.6215:

WoW has existed for more than 10 years and it has always had tanks, healers and nukers in every dungeon, even the ones that are old.

Because it’s combat is based on tanks, healers and nukers.

Dawnbreaker.6215:

LoL/DoTa, just to mention an example that isn’t a MMORPG, have been going for a long time as well, and it is unthinkable to have a full nuker party. Suggesting so would get you ridiculed.

Are you kidding me? You just compared PVP games to a pve dungeons in gw2? U mad?

Gene Archer.8560:

But the game was meant to have easily obtained BiS gear.

You know, that quote about how by level 80, all players, even casual ones, are supposed to have BiS gear.

Easy stats is how the game is meant to be.

Actual quote would be nice.

lordkrall.7241:

Unlikely.

Considering how easy it took out the whole Pact Airship-fleet it is unlikely that air-support would be possible. The fact that it can also sprout vines more or less everywhere would make a land-assault rather dangerous as well.

That’s why we should not allow talking cabbages to command our military.

Roxhemar.6039:

Let’s be honest, why is this thread EVEN a thing? You’re all going to buy Heart of Thorns. Let’s face it. We all are. Gather up your pennies and put threads like this aside.

I will wait for “challenging content” reveal before making decisions.

JonPeters.5630:

• Time Marches On – You move 25% faster. The duration of incoming movement-impairing conditions is reduced by 25%. (Cripple. Chilled, Immobilize)

This one is so op

RSLongK.8961:

an ugly outfit.
an ugly minipet.
a clipping weapons skins.
:x

And few dungeon ninja “fixes”.

ronpierce.2760:

It’s high concept. You’ll understand when you’re high.

Fixed.

EcoRI.9273:

I don’t really care about the difficulty of dungeons at this point of the game because as every one has said, the content is 3years old therefore its easy but I honestly feel without icebow in FOTM, that 3year old content is still challenging.

Even if you nerf all damage in this game for 9000% 3 years old content will still be faceroll. Boring and slow faceroll. We need new mechanics not braindead damage nerf. And only way to implement this new mechanics is to make new dungeons.

Gern.2978:

Honestly, if it’s isn’t the “Banshee” with shouts and everything, I am going to be a little disappointed.

Loud Greatswordmaster.

Orpheal.8263:

Their own fault … for being uncreative and insultive

I am pretty sure all this name hate would have calmed down by now if not this “high concept” response lol.

This horrible, game ruining, inhumane, Illuminati level people controlling, worst ewah 5% stat increase that was introduced years ago, is useless in 99% of the content and requires players to not afk in LA must be REMOVED right NAO !!!!1111zerker11!
Am I doing it right?

I prefer playing female character in MMOs but i always choose male characters in games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age. Go figure

Between tomorrow and heat death of the universe I guess.

It is confirmed that it is on The Table and that it is not coming with hot

Well since guard got traps I bet they will give shouts to thieves and necros will end up with turrets.

Transform everyone in to a Commando for a day. Just a skin.

It could be nice after skill/trait rework IF writs will work with mastery system.

If you are not missing anything then try to reequip all your items with ar. Game sometimes forgets to apply ar and that usually fixes it.

lLobo.7960:

Boss fight against the dragon champion?
Fractal in Glynts lair?

This. But only if difficulty will be adjusted and annoying hitbox bug fixed.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Yes. Dungeons are completed too fast on average right now. Most enemies are made trivial and negligible by certain builds and setups.

You might have not noticed this but… they are 2+ kittening years old. People did them million times and learned every little thing about them. This is how content in mmo games works.

MithranArkanere.8957:

People is being rewarded without actually doing enough to deserve it.

cough silverwastes cough chestfarm cough cough drytop cough worldbosses cough openworld cough

MithranArkanere.8957:

Elite enemies meant to slow down players are either killed in little time or merely skipped altogether.

Like devs said it is ok to skip trash. You can waste time by killing everything that moves or you can run past them. OPTIONS \o/

Stat difference is too small to care.

Cooking, jewelcrafting and artificing \o/. Cheap and fast 20+ levels. Some personal story too. Gives a bit of exp and black lion key. Buying/leeching dungeon paths. Or simple map exploring you will get few levels just by exploring starting cities.

MattyP.6954:

rotten.9753:

MattyP.6954:

In context (that is important, you know), calling someone out for not “removing training wheels” by running a build with Toughness (or Survivability in general) is kind of a crappy thing to do. It comes down to a group of players insisting that every player play like they play and bow to the Zerker dungeon Meta, and the comment that they “need to learn the combat system” is hilarious given that the dungeon strategy du jour involves exploiting level design to stand in a corner and dps race the mobs. That is even less active and requires less skill than a WoW 5-man.

You must be really heavy to carry if that’s what you do.

Carrying would imply a lack of skill where it’s required. No skill is required to stack in the corner and dps race the mobs. It’s just a loot farm and contains no rewarding gameplay.

Have you tried doing not AC?

Guardian now a Dragonhunter? Whats next? Warrior a Paladin?

Gaaroth.2567:

Astralporing.1957:

DanteZero.9736:

Well I did say “each of the remaining build possibilities” so that would mean (hypothetically) instead of having 5 good builds out of 1000 with the current system, I would expect the new system to provide perhaps 20-30 builds max, but every single one of the 20-30 builds would be useful or just as good as the 5 or so builds from the old system (the old system being the current system).

Too bad we can already see this won’t be the case, right?

Gaaroth.2567:

Yeah surely some meta builds will emerge but the point is that all other build shouldnt fall way behind like now, and that’s a good thing

I don’t think you looked too closely at the traits of all the classes in what was revealed of the new system.

I can’t speak for all classes since I main only engi and elem and I’ve looked deeply only for those. I see at least 4-5 equally good builds each that can all be meta at the same time, instead of 1-2 we have now. If that’d not diversity…

Anyway until the system is out we cant really say

It kinda backwards for ele atm. You have 4-5 good builds and if anet will not rethink some of their decisions we will end up with 1-2 good builds.

Roseblood.6793:

1. A boss that is immune to direct damage but take twice the condi damage. (perhaps in combination with a boss that is immune to condis).

That what we will end up with i think.

Roseblood.6793:

2. Some rooms applying so many conditions and strips so many boons that a designated support class is needed to keep the party alive. (This’d kill necros though…)

I am pretty sure that current guardian meta build can do that.

Roseblood.6793:

3. A boss that has an AoE hard hitting move (unavoidable) that would down any player without Vitality or Toughness in 1 move.

Forced tanking/healing check in mmo with no trinity? And it kinda ignores the basics of gw2 combat system.

Roseblood.6793:

4. A boss that has hard hitting moves for immobile players? (much like some vine attacks in SW, but more potent)

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary_Imbued_Shaman this guy has this sort of attacks.
By the way this little vines that spawn under you in sw and deal damage can be avoided by standing in melee range of a thrasher that spawns them.

Roseblood.6793:

5. A boss that drains Endurance, forcing players to take a hit from time to time.

Could be interesting. Would force guardians to learn how to use aegis.

Roseblood.6793:

6. A boss that takes damage from healing, a zombie of some kind.

No comments lol.

Evapor.6849:

Id like someone to draw me the infamous table, it must be a big table or would it be like a really small stool? When colin talks about the table my mind is boggled, what the kitten is actually on the table. Perhaps goku could draw us a picture.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/185736/1373683132446.gif

RollFzzlbeef.4092:

WHY is this a thing?
Seriously, this is worse than charr clipping on gemstore outfits.

Asura players have a frankly, inexcusable belly seam as marked in the image

I knew it…

Gaile Gray.6029:

Greyhound.2058:

Blimey how many rares are you all salvaging for that to be a problem?? One of you please tell the Loot Fairy I want to be her BFF too lol

I was thinking the same thing.

As I recall, the warning was implemented at player request. Players were accidentally salvaging items that they did not intend to salvage, just as back in the day (GW) you could sell valuable items with a single click. So the devs added a confirmation process to ensure that you do exactly what you intend to do.

I don’t recall seeing a warning for green items, but I don’t mind a bit getting the message in relation to golds. But then, I’m not massively wealthy, either.

After running in silverwastes for an hour or so i end up with 20 rares on average. That’s 80 clicks to salvage everything A little option in inventory options window could reduce that to 22 clicks :P

Gern.2978:

but reward you in some way for having members of your party who are running more tankier or healer type builds.

U wot m8?

Gern.2978:

Maybe give different rewards for no one going into down state during a fight, or killing a boss in a shorter amount of time.

This sounds a lot better.

Oh god… that second pic…

Thaddeus.4891:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

spoj.9672:

Even an employed game designer isnt necessarily better at designing content than your average invested intelligent player.

Even a professional surgeon isn’t necessarily better at performing surgery than your average invested intelligent patient.

Not really the same thing.

Game designer is usually not a job, but a position. People go to school and start in animation, graphic design, game art & design, programing, etc.

To be a surgeon you need to know the human body and how to fix it. As a game designer you need to use your imagination to create interesting design. School can give you tools and experience will help you to learn from past mistake. But overall, anyone can come up with good game design idea.

Everybody want to be a game designer. But usually, game designer are programmer, animator, artist, graphic designer, etc that receive a game design role at their job. Everybody can come up with idea, that’s not enough, you need to apply these idea into a video game.

The fact that this has to be explained to a “game designer” is kind of funny.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crippled#Skills_that_remove_crippled
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vigor

Depends on what this beta will be about. I will laugh hysterically if people farmed silverwastes just to get a chance to farm some more in the new map and then lose everything they farmed because beta.

Vorch.1807:

It is not a question of diversity, but rather a problem of complexity of character development. Now core specializations looks like a talents from MOBA games. Unfortunately, the tendency to oversimplify the system of character development has become usual for modern MMOrpgs.
P.s. sorry for my english

Oversimplified trait system will help gw2 a bit. There will be a lot less “omg why you are doing this to yourself T_T” builds. And a lot less “i want to be useless” anti-meta builds too.