Guild Wars 2

Would happily face anyone from TC down to the YB, CD, KN matchup. Just please no more tier 1 rolls. :/

Lol sor really do have their fair share of forum warriors… Still, for every disrespectful player/guild there was many times their number in decent hard fighting players which have been great fun to fight in a otherwise lopsided match. Interesting experience fighting tsym. Much preferred having you on our side lol.

Ps. Blackgate go away. Troll your own match thread don’t crap in ours.

I read before the new system was used that the odds of jade quarry(3rd rank) getting into a match with et was 1 in a billion, add onto that the odds of fc being thrown in there as well and you get a pretty insane number. if such a statistical fluke did occur. I would bow gracefully to lady luck, send my sympathies to fc and et and move on. Just because something can happen doesn’t mean it is reasonable to expect it to, and certainly such a scenario shouldn’t be used to determine our wvw system.

uneditedbrute.8136:

Fun fights in both SOS and SOR BLs today for ZN,
it was fun defending hills ,after i 5 man took it from sos, against SOR then hours later moving to SOR and working with EP to take bay! (as well as two northern towers that where just being attacked to distract >_<)
good fights got alot of footage for our weekly recap!

Dat charr Jesus. <3

Ascii.9726:

Seen as there’s been no official statement yet about TW moving to JQ ill quickly clarify for everyone;

Due to the current state of the WvW matchup TW has temporary transferred to JQ server to get some WvW fights and will be transferring back as soon as SoR is matched up with JQ or BG. Stealing JQ’s glory and annoying BG was part of the logic behind the choice.

I’m sure normal tasks preformed by TW such as the server meetings will still happen, the only difference is the lack of Indo sitting on the map akitten for 6 hours being rezzed consistently so he can be killed again.

Only the kill deprived TW who could afford the transfer fees both ways transferred (around 30). I, your siege master Ascii, remain on SoR.

Please tell me thats a joke? How… insulting. None of the three servers wanted this match up but we go out there every day giving 100% of our energy and effort and try and make the best of it, and you bail to jq for a more even match?

Sos deserves more respect than that, Tc deserves more respect than that, but most of all your allies from sor deserve better. Being part of a team means fighting through the good times and bad, they have your back and you have theirs. Guess that aint the case on Sor.

So much respect lost for one of the great guilds of gw2.

Sunspots.9861:

You can’t help but see the similiarties to the last time SoR and TC faced eachother so many weeks before. SoR the new champ of T2, fat with the transfers from SBI vs TC, and the shell of SBI. While I feel bad for SoS, I truly hope you guys put up as much fight as you did last week and don’t simply fade despite how fair it clear isn’t. Otherwise it will be bad for both of us.

I think I saw a [TW] tag :p

Not likely I’m afraid. We really needed a more realistic match this week, instead we got a worse one. It will be a learning experience for our pugs that’s for sure.

Looks like eBay will finally get a chance to prove themselves. Least you didn’t get sor. :/

Lol now I get randoms adding me to do cof from a fake lfg. Seriously such a weak troll. If you are indeed on SOS please just transfer elsewhere.

Coinin.2590:

fear not, i still think your server is awesome just home to some sad, unimaginative trolls like all servers

Indeed. I think the best part of a server having a exodus of players is its like a massive troll cull. Unfortunately sometimes one or two slip through the cracks.

EdotMP.1835:

mikal.9502:

EdotMP.1835:

Mikal, you should transfer to DB, your sound exactly like their forum warriors and would fit in great

I have a feeling you just now peeked your head into WvW since you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about, especially the last few hours of this match. This entire week, the larger guilds have been hammering FABL, FA in EB, and push everyone out in TCBL. The entire week I’ve been playing, I’ve personally only stepped foot into SoSBL once to start Tower Winner in spawn and harass a few camps for fun. If you’re complaining about being hammered by the zerg in EB because their bored and want to flip easy towers for Wxp, then maybe WvW isn’t for you.

Edit: Learn to troll, Mikal. Posting my name to GW2lfg is sad and lame. Good job abusing a perfectly good service!

Wow and you say I cry? First off I have no idea what gw2lfg is our who the hell you are. Next time have some proof before you make an accusation.

What happened all week? Wow again. Yea I was only talking about the last few hours as I was talking about the match being over and you zerging an outmanned server with 2 hours to go. Clkitten. You don’t like it? To bad. Sorry you get your panties in a bunch when someone says something you don’t like.

Looking at your previous posts, looks like you’ve been hopping in, complaining about being outmanned in your servers down time, and leaving. It’s sad because there are some actual nice people on your server, but forum trash such as yourself brings down the rep of your server greatly due to your complaining. If you hate WvW so much, stop going into it. Go farm PVE or something, or maybe do sPVP for a change.

Before this thread, his last and only comment was six months ago. Please don’t make the mistake of thinking our server is like this. We just want good fights, and intelligent opposition.

Thanks for the fights FA and TC! It’s been a fun week. Don’t mind Mikal he’s an obvious troll and probably doesn’t even play on SOS. Certainly he never comments on our other threads.

Wow good job cd! Way to grab the bull by the horns. Fights like this are why the new ranking system is a success.

Khayoss.2019:

Tobias Steele.2071:

1. Fort aspen wood
2. Ebay.(been saying for ages how they could take us, bring it on)

Really be happy with anyone between tiers 2-5 except dragonbrand.

I am guessing you are from SoS because we have been dying to fight you guys. I don’t know if some of our people have been talking trash in threads I didn’t see, but most of all we just want the chance to try. I don’t believe any from our main guilds would be so bold as to claim victory over an unknown opponent, but we feel like we belong in your league and we just want a chance to test ourselves.

1: SoS – they look like they are a great test for us. Would love to see how we stack up, and I would really appreciate observing some former T1 tactics. Bet there’s a few tricks to learn.
2: Yaks Bend – best fights I can remember us having in T4 was them. We’ve gotten bigger and better since we last squared off, I think we could actually press them this time instead of it being as lopsided as it was last go around.

You guessed correctly. fun as this last week has been, a chance to fight a tough server that we nevertheless have a chance of defeating would be amazing. Honestly you would probably win in na, but get flogged in oceanic. Never know for sure until it happens though.

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Some quite long answers on here. From what I’m reading here, the short answer to the original question is “No”.

To quote Iago from Aladdin, “I think I’m going to have a heart attack and die of not surprise.”

Depends on what you define as winning. Having kitten loads of fun while gaining massive amounts of rating (three whole ranks so far)from your opponents as well as dominating during the servers prime time, to me that’s a win.

1. Fort aspen wood
2. Ebay.(been saying for ages how they could take us, bring it on)

Really be happy with anyone between tiers 2-5 except dragonbrand.

Rawr.5930:

Lol DB’s SEA does NOT shirk a fight.

DB regularly ticked 400+ during SEA against TC and FA throughout the course of that matchup.

On the other hand NA just disappeared apart from AGG in the last 2 weeks of the matchup.

Really? My memory of db sea was avoid fights till everyone goes to sleep then golem rush every map. They are going to get flogged so bad when they fight another server that actually has a sea presence.

We got as high as 440. Very proud of SOS right now. Punching far above our weight!

Lyndis.2584:

Wow, we really deserve to get stomped in this matchup. Some of the commanders have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. At all. We’re barely managing to hold on to our homelands and they decide to go on an offensive tilt instead of staying defensive and upgrading towers (which are barely T2 to mention). In the meantime while they get wiped knee deep in enemy territory (we’re outmanned, why are you invading an enemy’s T3 tower when they have more than triple our number?) we lose 2 towers and supply camps to boot.

/SoS#1

Edit : Also, don’t understand why people feel the need to tag up on an outmanned map when we already have a commander and break up an outmanned server into two zergs. Christ, this server gives me migraines.

Lol, give it time mate. A lot of the commanders in this server have never had to command while losing. Some will never learn but the majority just need time to change their mindsets.

Jyeoi.6027:

Vespirisa.1497:

You SBI people. Help me think of something to call you guys. Also it feels like more SBI are playing than Mag

Steel Balls Isle. They click as we run over your bodies.

Isle of bags, stormbag isle?

Phantom.8130:

i’ve noticed that the majority of SoS thieves i’ve come across are running the basilisk venom>mug>backstab builds. now, i’m not going to say what you should or shouldn’t do, but i can offer a bit of advice. that set up is pretty obsolete, to be honest. as i said on the thief forums (seeming thousands of times….) when everyone was crying for it to be nerfed, it’s a one trick pony. once people learn how it works, it’s pretty easy to beat. the best case scenario with them is to gank stragglers who aren’t anywhere close to any objectives. aside from that, they’re pretty much useless.

personally, i find the d/p perma-stealth troll thief to be far more potent. you can sill get good backstabs in, and you frustrate your opponents into making a ton of mistakes. the perma-stealth makes you the best scouts possible, capable of trailing a zerg without anyone in it knowing. the blind from your pistol #5 is a great defensive tool as well. for elites, thieves guild is a good compliment, since they’ll attack while you’re in stealth.

also, don’t go glass cannon. the counter to stealth is supposed to be AoE, and if you’re a glass cannon, it actually hurts like hell, and can possibly even kill you before your stealth wears off. the cavalier rings and earrings (power, toughness, crit damage) from the temple of balthazar should be standard, even if you still want to go with full berserker’s armor and amulet. that should give you about the same level of offense, with a decent level of defense. you’ll lose out a little on your crit chance, but it will end up at around 50% still. you can even swap to a set of knight’s armor and short bow for running with a zerg. a thief with 3k armor and 80% crit damage is far more dangerous than a thief with 2k armor and 104% crit damage.

on the topic of basilisk venom, avoid it like the plague. it’s just plain not worth an elite slot anymore. the duration is too short, and it’s too easy to break out of. if you want an immoblize, devourer venom is much much better. it’s basically the same thing, but lasts longer, applies on two hits instead of just one, has the same cooldown, and is harder to break out of. and it doesn’t take up an elite slot.

there is a downside, however. if you can promote the switch to the bulk of your thieves, about 200 more “nerf thief” whining threads will suffocate the thief forums again.

I’ll start believing its obsolete when it stops killing people plain and simple. It may be for you, but let me just say I have had great success in killing players from both fa and Tc with that specific build.

Asbrandr.6324:

Yikes, I think I got singed just from walking into that T3 thread; I don’t think SBI/Mag are used to dealing with Arrow Carts being everywhere.

Sbi should be, god only knows cd drop enough of them. What they won’t be used to is db players running from fights…

Somehow I doubt overwhelming support for the current (new system) was what the op expecting to see lol.

Number 2! New system is much better than old one. This is so much fairer on servers stuck in stale match ups.

You’re overlooking the match with crystal desert. They would never have had a chance to prove themselves against those opponents with the old system, yet they spent most of the day comfortably winning. Games like that are the reason why this will be a success in the long term. Also I’m rather enjoying fighting t2 servers tyvm. Getting beaten by players is so much better than head bashing through walls for victory.

People get too obsessed with the score, that’s this games biggest problem IMHO.

12 hour shift takes it toll lol had a great time in wvw today. It’s interesting fighting two servers with extremely different tactics. Generally tier to tier the tactics are shared to a large extent by the participants. Not so with Tc and fa.

LordKael.7260:

Command with your high-survival characters, whichever class that might be. If you do use mesmer though, you probably don’t want to be the one dropping portals for pbombs cuz you’ll likely get pugs following you in lol

The best portal bombs I have seen are from Mesmer commanders. They always know where to drop em’ and not get killed.

Well that proves me wrong anyway lol.

Apologies to sbi for wiping that dolyak escort train thing with all the players using tonics. I just saw red and dagger stormed in before I realised wtf I was seeing lol

Mesmer. Good at escaping when required with viable bunker builds you can run (useful as a commander) also… Portal bombs + veil. Need I say more?

SniffyCube.6107:

Caught a few of them in sbi borderlands trying to get a control point. They were from SoS server

Ahh probably stragglers from the old days.

Also, sniffy, clear your inbox lol it’s not letting me reply to your message.

SniffyCube.6107:

SBI didn’t come out and play even after tapping on your doors

anyway good fights on your bl for the last few hours

also, FoE, nice seeing you again

Did I miss something? Where have FOE been spotted?

It wasn’t actually that bad, bit of over zealous moderating IMHO. Still lets just play nice, children and try and be civil so we have a place to talk about the matchup.

OrigJoker.1870:

I don’t care about point ticks, score or bandwagon drama…

Personally I would love to have you guys on DB, I liked playing with you guys on Kaineng and we could use some help especially during the week with our NA coverage here.

Just make sure wherever you go is stable, Contrary to belief DB is not a huge bandwagon. A lot of guilds have been here a long time and we are just adding to them, Not trying to take over the world.

It’s funny….TC, FA, BG etc… have ALL gotten tons of transfers to help them be where they are and only DB is considered a “bandwagon”….Keep trolling.

TC, FA, BG don’t have AGG. You, however do. Hence the bandwagon status.

DeadlySynz.3471:

I pulled out about 225 badges today in an hours time with a Ranger in full zerker gear. I could never pull that off with any other Ranger build; nor with my Warrior or Elementalist. This is soley because of the heavy damage from combination of barrage and rapid fire (piercing) can do to a group that isn’t coordinated. I think nearly everyone can attest to running around in zergs and seeing how many people tend to lose focus on the groups goals.

I’m not sure how people come to the conclusion that Rangers are less desirable in zergs or don’t do as much damage as other classes. I can usually pull 20K+ damage to a group with the combination above in a short amount of time, without fear of getting run over. In zerg vs zerg encounters, what other class can do that while consistently surviving at the same time?

Sure the build isn’t meant for 1v1 play, and more often than not i’ll lose to other classes in any 1v1 encounter (like running towards the zerg), but if the class can rake in that much badges and loot in an hours time with minimal deaths, i’ll take that over a more conservative tougher build any day.

All the badges mean is that you tagged an awful lot of mobs. Says nothing about your overall effectiveness. Had any of your opponents been intelligent enough to use retaliation you would auto gib yourself on every second skill use. Pets are walking condition bombs in the making, against organised opposition zergs a build like that + dumb pet may actually be a liability.

Thrashbarg.9820:

Tobias Steele.2071:

morrolan.9608:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Why is everyone complaining about getting greens?

Well for one thing one of the devs implied that either we would get rares or at least a good chance of rares.

Out of four chests today I have gotten two rares. Were you really expecting some kind of hand out? The chance of getting rares from these chests appears to be about the same as pve ones. (excluding the dragon chests) That seems fair.

Yeah, because gaining 5000 WXP is as easy as running (or being ported up) one jumping puzzle, and so much easier than slaying a mighty dragon!

I see now why giving Jormag’s claw a manicure is worth a guaranteed rare per day along with several chances at more from the chest, but taking 8 keeps is only worth a single chance at maybe a rare but probably a green. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.

Where’s the website I can get the timer info for when my server is about to flip keeps and towers so I can farm them like dragon/event chests?

(Considering how fast the instigator events in southsun are plopping out rares and how much the price of ectoplasm has fallen as a result, I can’t really believe they are so concerned about the economy crashing if they gave the WvW players a rare every couple hours or so. I’m not saying there should be a huge chance for precursors or anything, but it feels a bit odd that I can get several rares in an hour of running events in southsun but I get one single green and a blueprint for what is often several hours of hard slogging battle.)

For your sake I hope your exaggerating the difficulty you have in accomplishing those tasks, I really do.

5000 wexp is so incredibly easy to get its not even funny but in any case it’s not been made to be the wvw alternative to cof farming. Simply wishful thinking to believe that.

Celeras.4980:

The Flame and Frost story arc was not anything to write home about (in fact, it was shallow and boring for most of the stretch there), but at least it ended with a bang. The Molten Facility was a great dungeon, ripe with the kind of mechanics this game should have.

It’s not that Null is terrible on paper, because at least the mechanics are attempted. But the tuning is terrible and his arena is poorly thought out and easily exploitable. Overall, I feel like this was a huge step back after finally feeling like the Living Story content might actually become meaningful.

I completely agree. The whole molten saga really set a decent this southsun stuff has fallen so far bellow that it isnt funny. No real story, no interesting characters or character development, hell even the endless sickle is a joke.

morrolan.9608:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Why is everyone complaining about getting greens?

Well for one thing one of the devs implied that either we would get rares or at least a good chance of rares.

Out of four chests today I have gotten two rares. Were you really expecting some kind of hand out? The chance of getting rares from these chests appears to be about the same as pve ones. (excluding the dragon chests) That seems fair.

Why is everyone complaining about getting greens? Free siege, silver and a free chance at a precursor is nothing to be sneezed at. This didn’t exist before today so its all a free bonus for playing wvw.

Xsorus.2507:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Very few rangers repping organised guilds in wvw at tier 5 and up and there are extremely good reasons for that. If its a choice, for the love of all that’s holy go Mesmer! There exist SOME good rangers but they are few and far between. The large majority either get the pet to tank while they do damage, or tank themselves while the pet does the damage. Both are terrible tactics that may work in pve, but is innefective in wvw. The pet can be a massive liability in wvw and you need to take account of that to be effective.

Depends on what you’re doing in WvW, zerging around, this is correct.

Solo and Small manning, No…..I’ll stomp on Mesmer’s all day long usually.

Thats probably true. As a thief or necromancer I dont have issues with roaming rangers, but I can imagine them being a problem for mesmers.

Mayoken.9851:

From last I heard some SoS SEA guilds were coming to DB. Chiips you know anything about this? Btw it’s great to see you old chap!

I lolled. Do your research mate. SOS doesn’t have ANY sea guilds.

Also if they had made their mind up I doubt they would be posting a topic in the forums and I doubt even more if they would appreciate you “announcing” their decisions for them.

Cant really expect much more from bandwagonbrand though.

Not even close. Try looking at eu lol

ReapersSolitude.1940:

Sinaya.4201:

ReapersSolitude.1940:

I want to say great work SoS we have come along way from the fall. All the veteran commanders out there you have mad respect from me. For the recent new commanders any questions or you need me to tag up please pm. Keep up the great work. Great fights all around on the battlefields!

It’s totally in fashion to compliment your own team. All the cool servers are doing it.

I figured instead of being so negative on the forums that it was good to compliment the server and not be complaining about the usually correct me if i wrong. I figure it was in good taste. would you not agree.?

I agree 100% especially for SOS as we do have a couple of negative Nancy’s. that tend to paint an unrealistically grim picture of our situation.

Sinomi, try posting something positive in the match thread for once. Atm it’s like reading a rendition of The character Eeyore from the Winnie the Pooh series lol.

Very few rangers repping organised guilds in wvw at tier 5 and up and there are extremely good reasons for that. If its a choice, for the love of all that’s holy go Mesmer! There exist SOME good rangers but they are few and far between. The large majority either get the pet to tank while they do damage, or tank themselves while the pet does the damage. Both are terrible tactics that may work in pve, but is innefective in wvw. The pet can be a massive liability in wvw and you need to take account of that to be effective.

They went to crystal desert. It’s been great fun fighting them so far. They bring new ideas and out of the box thinking that this tier needs.

vinceftw.5086:

Calsifer.6079:

vinceftw.5086:

CD: only fight when they’re outnumbering you, thief hitting keeps so we can’t spawn, thieves abusing food that roots you. Great guys. Why couldn’t you leave the tier instead of SBI who fights with honor?

CD only fights when we outnumber the enemy? You should’ve seen CDBL bay keep at around 4-5am server time. We definitely did not fight with number superiority. As for hitting hitting keeps, contesting keeps is a legit tactic and I don’t know why you wouldn’t do it.

Also, there’s no such thing as food that stuns you, you probably just got hit by basilisk venom.

It immobilized me and had the animation of the tree branches from Oakhearts. There was no Oakheart or any other mob near us. And I find contesting keeps weak.

Contesting keeps is all part of “fog of war” it’s legit so get used to it.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Gawd i would love to post the ss of this weeks hacks against us on sosbl but ik devs will get upset. I have ofcourse ss and reported the ones ive seen. I cant even name those people/servers who have been up to no good again this week. We all know who i’m talking about, its good to know we have new content coming soon, shame ppl can still hack fully upgraded stuff in under 30seconds. I hope along with new content the exploits are fixed and the exploiters are perma banned.

You’re right you can’t. So why even post about it at all? It’s flogging a dead horse that’s been killed and revived by a necromancer fifty billion times.

Be intresting to know what server you are from but i think i can guess. But the point is yes it happens but today alone its happend twice on our BL alone, again just now as well (that i know of). We need to be complaining and reporting the cheaters more often, alot of people dont bother with the reporting and thats half the problem. Just saying it happens lets get over it wont fix the problem. For SoS as a server we not going to lose this match because of it, but thats not to say we shouldnt keep bring the topic up.

Would you report the offenders more if it was happening against your server?

Simply put we should be working together to watch out for these “players” and report them if we see them. The fun is really been taken out of wvw the last two weeks for alot of people tho that wont stop me playing.

for those that dont know if you see exploiters report in-game under scamming and take a Screenshot or vid (if there’s time) and email anet with the proof you have to exploits@arena.net

I’m from SOS… So I guess that makes the rest of your post kind of redundant. I have actively seen you try to get players to check sbi spawn for golems(thankfully none listen) so seeing you derail the thread by pointless accusations of exploitations is hilarious. Yes they happen. ON ALL SERVERS. Report it to the relevant authorities, build a bridge and get over it.

Snowreap.5174:

Ok, I simulated 100,000,000 random matchups to see what’s likely to happen, and what’s not likely. I started with the ratings and volatility values from this page:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/big-changes-coming-to-wvw-matchups/

Blackgate
65.6% chance of being matched against Jade Quarry
54.6% chance of being matched against Sanctum of Rall
29.8% chance of being matched against Dragonbrand
19.6% chance of being matched against Fort Aspenwood
18.4% chance of being matched against Tarnished Coast
4.5% chance of being matched against Maguuma
4.4% chance of being matched against Kaineng
2.1% chance of being matched against Yak’s Bend

Ehmry Bay
23.9% vs Anvil Rock
23.3% vs Borlis Pass
22.9% vs Stormbluff Isle
22.9% vs Crystal Desert
18.3% vs Darkhaven
17.3% vs Sea of Sorrows
14.0% vs Yak’s Bend
12.0% vs Isle of Janthir
11.1% vs Sorrow’s Furnace
10.4% vs Kaineng
10.0% vs Maguuma
3.8% vs Devona’s Rest
3.4% vs Gate of Madness
2.8% vs Northern Shiverpeaks

Eredon Terrace
57.8% vs Ferguson’s Crossing
49.1% vs Henge of Denravi
25.4% vs Northern Shiverpeaks
23.5% vs Gate of Madness
22.3% vs Devona’s Rest
7.9% vs Isle of Janthir
3.1% vs Darkhaven

I hope this helps people understand what matchups are likely under the new system, and what matchups are unlikely.

Note that the percentages add up to 200% because in each match you will face 2 opponents.

-ken

By far the most useful post I have seen on the forums in a while. Thanks for sharing!

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Gawd i would love to post the ss of this weeks hacks against us on sosbl but ik devs will get upset. I have ofcourse ss and reported the ones ive seen. I cant even name those people/servers who have been up to no good again this week. We all know who i’m talking about, its good to know we have new content coming soon, shame ppl can still hack fully upgraded stuff in under 30seconds. I hope along with new content the exploits are fixed and the exploiters are perma banned.

You’re right you can’t. So why even post about it at all? It’s flogging a dead horse that’s been killed and revived by a necromancer fifty billion times.

Gab Superstar.4059:

DevonCarver.5370:

Ascii.9726:

Question: Will these reward chests for ranks be given for people who already have Ranks? For example will a Rank 60 player receive 60 chests?

There will be a system for rewarding players who have already gained ranks. The way it will work is you will have a backlog of 60 chests, if you were at rank 61, and for each rank you achieve after that you will get 2 chests, instead of 1, until you’ve received all 60 of your backlog. These bonus chests should be available for every player who has gained rank prior to the build.

Are you going to do anything to remedy the discrepancies in how fast you gain ranks and badges between the tiers? From my experience how much you earn in WvW is directly proportional to what tier you play in. This didn’t bother me so much earlier due to the higher quality of game play, but now that infusions and ascended gear are added into the mix I can’t help but feel a bit left behind playing on a lower tier server where you are not in a position to fight 60-70 enemies on every map 24/7.

That would be why the first player to rank 30 was from tier 4…. As long as you’re at a level that has at least one medium to large Zerg on at least one map more or less 24/7 then you can and will get tonnes of badges and ranks. Provided zerging is your playstyle of course.

Hickeroar.9734:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Hickeroar.9734:

Srsly though, guys. Even if all changes aren’t well received, it’s really great to see WvW getting some love lately. Keep up the great work.

It was pretty much ignored for 10 months… in which a very high % of hardcore pvpers left the game… hopefully this is not a case of too little too late.

The game has only been out for 8 months. They’ve actively been making changes to it for two months now, which means they’ve been working on those changes for a lot longer than that.

A high percentage of hardcore pvpers change games every few months anyway. Look at prx as an example. Pretty sure they never play a game for more than 6-8 months.

Because one recruitment thread just isn’t enough, right?