Guild Wars 2

Fuzzion.2504:

BenL.5312:

@ Oresh

Are you really that scared of losing? I am assuming you are from JQ.
Your post can only mean 1 thing – JQ wins by coverage.

What is wrong with BG or SOR getting more coverage? If all 3 servers are on equal footing, that would be the time when servers can finally say “X server’s players are more skilled”

Isn’t this what everybody like to brag about? Skill?

JQ wins by skill,tactic and having good commanders who are loyal to JQ. We care about our ppt and we take pride in being the top class in gw2. JQ also has the highest number of mmo vets around.

You win every week because of the Foo factor. Gonna be good when they bail on Jq to go to a SEA region server.(currently in beta)

Killtrox.2019:

Toggles.1783:

Fegelein.7026:

Not everyone shares your view of being “loyal” to a server for the entirety of the game. Some people find that honorable and some simply don’t care where they end up as long as they are having fun in the server they’re in.

All the while harming perfectly fine servers and communities, making people choose between friends/guild and fubaring the matchups for quite a while as the system slowly works it out.

(not directed at you, Fegelein)
But by all means, have at the thoughtless and selfish actions of WvW server hopping while scoffing at “loyalty” under the guise of “fun”. (because jacked up matchups for three or more weeks are sooooo much fun)

Question. Why do we have to care about harming a server and community? Why do we have to sacrifice our guild and fun to a community that is already dying? We are real people that spent real money on a game to have our kind of fun. kitten honor and loyalty to servers. We’re here for competitive WvW, GvG, ZergvZerg. T3 won’t have that for us. It wasn’t thoughtless or selfish. Selfish would be making my guild sit in a dying server while most of our guild members want to move out. Our responsibility as a guild is our guild not a server.

Oh gawd. Poor jarvin, being held to ransom by his own guildies. You are extremely misguided. Still, plenty of t1 bandwagoners to join in with. Go join Jq, you will never have to worry about losing again.

Wvw without a doubt. Simply crazy amounts of karma to be had there. Pretty much everything you do will get you an event completion with associated karma.

Kript.3291:

go to Jade Quarry, its NA time needs tons of help.

No one in t1 “needs” help, Jq least of all.

waits for the t1 servers to start spamming how much they need more players for an “even” match up
Good luck guys, didnt get the chance to fight you for as long as I would have liked, but you play well and hit like a train.

:) eb fights are the same regardless of the tier or server. Best fights IMHO are from the borderlands where the week is won or lost.

Gravy.7589:

Last night we, took your Garrison, Hills, Bay and Longview with the same golems. Think it worked out just fine. Don’t know if you are talking about another encounter?

But seriously, the SoS crew in EB really needs to work on their open field engagements. Half your blob stays and fights, well gets ran over, and the second half runs. I just don’t get it. Who commands in EB during NA prime anyway?

Pug commanders. Funny though because I think the same of a lot of CD and SBI. I guess it’s just perspective…

Energetik.6471:

Siege capped and still winning… what does that tell you?

That we have twice as much coverage as they do lol.

This siege sabotaging kitten is getting old. Wish Anet would do something, we all know who’s doing it but we can’t stop him.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Okaishi.8320:

I would trade a 2 am reset for a 4 pm reset any day. Together with the fact that reset doesn’t actually happen until 20-30 minutes later, it means most of us got to play 30 minutes to an hour, if at all.

For people on the west coast, even if you don’t get to play reset immediately, there’s still the whole evening ahead of you, which none of us ever had. As you guys are saying a lot won’t make it to the start of reset, your queues shouldn’t be as long at that point either. Even if that queue lasts for 2 hours, you would get in at around 9 pm (assuming you finished dinner around 7), having more time to play on a reset day than any of us ever could.

These two hours make a lot of difference for us, please don’t get that wrong. Just by losing that 1 hour to summer time I saw the amount of people showing up in our guild for reset decrease by atleast half, to give you an example.

I’m not saying this is the best solution and that it won’t inconvenience NA players, but try to share some of the burden of it with us until they are able to seperate reset times for NA and EU.

This is a complete bullkitten argument as the amount of time it will take West Coasters to get in with queues is the same amount of time it would have taken your EU Guild to wake up at 9am and play all day Saturday.

I’m sure you are thrilled that you are going to see increased turnout for your extra hour or two of playtime. Somewhere between 75-90% of all NA Guilds just had their major weekly Guild Event destroyed by this.

It seems pretty clear most of EU has no clue about the kinds of queues NA sees on Reset all the way down to T6-7.

This isn’t as simple as “oh just delay your Guild Event for a few hours” – this change has pretty much made WvW Guild Events impossible on Reset.

A 10am Friday Reset would’ve been better than the current choice because hopefully SEA/Oceanic/EU players on NA Servers would be done/burned out by the time most NA people get home.

As it is, most of NA simply won’t get to play on Reset because of queues and frustration. It will lead to people quitting the game with no guarantee they return when Split-Reset times are finally put in. And that is really bad for ANet.

Queues down to tier 6/7 ? What fantasy world are you living in. Hardly any queues on all maps outside t1/2 with the possible exception of yaks bend and maguuma who have a strong na core.

Honestly if you let this “destroy” your guilds wvw event then you never cared about wvw that much to begin with. As someone who has never been able to access wvw during the “convenient” times the amount of qq here is astounding. Adapt and deal with it like everyone else in the world has to.

ARM.3912:

SOS just zergs. When I fought them they were devoid of any decent gameplay.

Lol someone from GOM saying we’re devoid of decent gameplay… If you ever manage to escape t8 and actually accomplish something get back to me. Until then go back to playing with your five man mega zergs.

Reset is at 6:00 for me so…. Meh, can’t be bothered. Don’t expect much from SOS this reset (or any other now that times have changed) waking up a hungover Aussie that early in the morning doesn’t go down too well. Our na lads and ladies will have to hold the fort for a while.

Wait… So you have heavy NA and Oceanic coverage? :S no disrespect but I wasn’t aware that any eu t1 server had significant na server forces.

Best recruitment video ever. Period. ^^

Aneu.1748:

I miss the slaughter that was NA at times…

Na misses you and VOTF too, Aneu. No one could kill Jq goons quite like you guys could.

The Hunter.4516:

Has sea of sorrows got a strong EU time group of players?

Few NA servers have many or any EU players. Outside of t1 who do have a few, you would probably need to look at fort aspenwood, or tarnished coast to find a decent sized eu community.

I travelled and changed servers many times to find one with a community I could not only tolerate, but enjoy being a part of, win or lose. HOD, DB, IOJ all had their good points, but none of them hold a candle to the sense of community and desire to be the best we could be idealism, that I found on SOS.
The fact is, Sea of Sorrows takes wvw extremely seriously, but we never let that fact take away from the fun we have in doing non wvw community related activities.
training people new to the game to be the best they can be is something this server does better than any other, whether that’s in wvw, spvp or pve.
If you love having fun, enjoy wvw and being sociable then SOS is the server for you.

Gravy.7589:

Spalen.9483:

Gravy.7589:

So you want our SEA/Oceanic coverage which is basically not existent?

To be honest as a SEA SBI player, this is quite disheartening to hear. And no I’m not transferring anywhere.

I guess we need to recruit some SoS sea guilds to help you all out. XD

We don’t have any SEA guilds lol so good luck with that. MERC and AFS took all our SEA players when they left. All we have is a few Americans, and hordes, and hordes of Aussies.

This is the kind of message that you need to send to WM personally rather than on the forums. Provided you’re serious of course. We see enough spam from the three most populated servers desperate for people from the less populated ones. It’s becoming a bit of a joke tbh.

Personally I find it somewhat disrespectful to poach players from current opponents. If they want to swap then sure why not, but don’t go deliberately recruiting them…

The difference between Jq, bg and sor is FOO from Jq and the rest of their SEA crew. So you will get a good fight whichever of the three you go to. In terms of stability… Jq and sor would be the two to choose from.

Hope that helps, cheers.

You’re right. This is far too under handed to be from CD. I bet it’s a vengeful ex Jade Quarry member. kittens get us for everything. spits my apologies CD I temporarily forgot who the true enemy is. ^,^

Yohimbe.1876:

Azavin.2018:

After a much celebrated cleansing of siege on SoS’s Lowlands Keep due to server downtime, certain individuals are at it again building up a ton of siege in our keep – including multiple rams beneath our towers INSIDE our keep. Clearly this is intentional – we can only guess why he is doing it as he completely ignores everyone and continues to build

The siege sabotager has showed up on SBI and is at it in our lowland keeps now. Interesting ram placements, that’s for sure. Honestly, I don’t understand employing tactics like this in our tier. Doofus.

If its the same guy, I guess that means he’s from CD. So pointless doing this in t4 I agree. You expect it from jade quarry or blackgate but cd? Geeze what’s the world coming to.

Terra Dactyl.2047:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

I find it amusing that the reset time is set by UTC, which is a European time zone, yet the European players are the ones complaining that it should be changed for them and left on UTC for American players.

As an American player I can tell you that the reset during primetime is terrible; the queues to get in to WvW are often about an hour long right after reset. You’re probably better off now with it at midnight.

And now the opportunity to get in before the queues form (AT reset) is gone because the EU players on NA servers will be filling all the spots before we get home from work. So much for finding a time both sides would be satisfied with.

They should move it to Saturday if anything. Saturday in the middle of the afternoon would at least be better than Friday in the middle of the afternoon. :/

Because there are oh so many euro wvw players on the na servers…

So much bullkitten on this thread. Guess some people really don’t like to be reminded that there is a world outside continental USA. You can’t please everyone but this solution is at least fair for the majority. I will have to get up at 6:00 am for reset, but that’s a hell of a lot better than staying up till 2:00 am…

Fair is fair. Build a bridge and get over it.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Earlier???

Well this is dumb, having more players be able to join the start of the match isn’t remotely as important as having more players join at the END of a match.

If this is true for NA servers as well, it basically means close matches will be won by daytimers while most players are still at work/school

The devs have stated that having reset at different times for eu and na is not possible. So they built a solution based on the lesser evil. Make it 2 hours earlier for na, from 5 down to 3 I believe? (small difference to na players) and make it 2 hours earlier for eu from 2 am back to midnight (massive difference to eu player) good decision Anet! Just shows there isn’t much na bias. For me personally it will mean getting up at 6 am for reset which isn’t ideal but I’m in the minority.

It’s funny because I still see Jq update their recruiting thread every so often… No shame.

Luvpie and vox shatterfell, IMHO are the two current best commanders on SOS. Team shatter and Fate also have a couple of good ones.

Great match up! Very disappointed in the guilds leaving CD. I’m sure they have their reasons but t4 is a lot more fun than t2 so don’t expect a miraculous improvement in enjoyment.

Any server that has settled in their respective tier is a good choice. What time zone do you play in?

Simple, give due reward to the upgrades that players can spam in relative safety(not always but close enough) e.g. Walls, doors, wp, cannons, mortar and don’t for the lesser upgrades that spies use to waste supply. It’s not foolproof, but players committing resources to their servers well being should be rewarded.

I am unsure if any reward could be safely placed on siege blueprints. I can just imagine the inexperienced peeps throwing down half a dozen rams to take a tower. :/ it’s hard enough as it is. Spies are also a major issue with siege.

Let me guess… They complain about night capping even while winning?
Seems to me maguuma and yaks bend is a match made in heaven. The delicious tears from the t3 match thread must be overwhelming.

Loving t4 so far. For what it’s worth the players in this tier are significantly more skilled on average than t3. Numbers however, are lacking. It’s refreshing fighting players that can actually beat us when numbers are even, haven’t had that since t1. Good show!

Vodka.3958:

Oresh.4729:

Vodka.3958:

Asklepious.6014:

Polismassa.6740:

That would be our commander Natrixx, A.K.A. the “Golden Sunrise Commander”. He actually got challenged to a duel, glove in face style, by a CDS commander too xD.

Anyway, if BG truly is a sinking ship (which i’m not entirely convinced of) then it sucks to see you go. There were a lot of guilds that i had a good time fighting on BG. HB, GoF and KnT come to mind, but there were many others. If you end up deciding on a new home, good luck.

GoF is here to stay on Blackgate come rain or shine

Our super-stacked enemies will try their best to make our server look unattractive by calling us a sinking ship because they want us to be just that.

What they don’t know is that we’re the only server that has fallen in and out of T1 3 times and not completely collapse. This only show’s what an amazing community we have and how close-knit we are to each other.

Being apart of Blackgate for almost half a year, I noticed it’s like being apart of a team. We will go through anything together, whether it’s bad or good, just as long as we are going through it together.

&To the people that think that we are a “sinking ship”; Blackgate is stronger now more than ever before especially with guilds like GoF & MERC. Even with the little coverage we have compared to the other 2 gigantic servers we’re facing, we were still able to beat JQ & put a gold-medal up on the mosmillenium history books, something SoR is incapable of doing even with the huge amount of coverage they have.

Now with that said, Blackgate is the server that will never die so quit trying to make it sound like we’re imploding -_-

(EDIT: Btw JQ if you get 1 more gold medal you’ll beat EU’s Vizunah Square in the gold medal count)

how come bg was the superstacked server to undermanned? what happened after you get the first place?

and btw stop being proud about bg dropping from t1, 3 times ( first time after 1week, sd time after 2weeks, third time after 3weeks). this is like a running joke for all the other server

JQ was already super stacked and we still beat them, SoR became Sanctum of Transfers and became super stacked when they already had enough coverage.

&Being the only server that fell from T1 3 times and not completely collapsing show’s that we are far from being a sinking ship. It only shows the strength in our community

So you beat Jq once… That’s meant to be something worthy of bragging about? Which you only managed to do because of mass transfers from another t1 server.

From your position I would be very careful about accusing SOR of being super stacked.

In the end every server is totally convinced they have a loyal strong community, few actually do.
Blackgate got more wvw players from the SOS collapse than SOR did, but the ones Sor got were the loyal ones that tried to save the server when the others (the ones that came to you) bailed at the first sight of trouble. MERC, ND, AOI etc are great guilds, but they will leave when things get tough. My experience of server collapses tells me when they do, many others will follow regardless of how strong your “community” is.

From a outsiders perspective all three t1 servers are incredibly stacked, the days of servers earning a position in the top bracket based on merit are long gone.
It’s all a matter of luck.

Keineng has a virtually non existent oceanic presence. You do however, have the second best SEA presence of any server.

My bad. I actually thought he was talking about the fps, not skill lag. I apologise.

Sounds like a hardware issue. I have experienced significant wvw lag only once since the update where my frame rate dropped to like 10-12 fps. That was a three way fight in eb with the full maps worth of players from all three servers. They have given everyone the option of removing lag, but if your pc can’t handle it…. I do agree about the particle effects though.

What server are you from? It sounds like you followed a really terrible commander tbh. Most(on my server for sure and most I suspect) would rather risk getting wiped and dig in for a good fight than just run away. :/ what you experienced is not the norm at all.

IMHO current top 4 for oceanic wvw players.
1. Blackgate
2. Fort aspenwood
3. Sanctum of Rall
4. Sea of sorrows

If you include pve that changes things around a bit. Sea of sorrows and fort aspenwood would be one and two, followed by isle of janthir, then sanctum of Rall and blackgate.
Hope this helps.
Cheers

Someone needs to inform millenium about the new match up…

O.o so the ranking boost happened already?

Darek.1836:

I hope you’re not mocking my desperate attempt to get any dev attention at all.
also lol at “only took cookies”; yeah that and about 25 threads since January and 80 pages of posts.

Most of the devs don’t even read the forums, but I bet they loved those cookies!

Jextapose.6532:

GL all my friends at SoS. Show them you still have plenty of fight in you.

Also, I sure wish FA had a strong Asian presence

That would be your only weak link now, no? You have a strong na, one of the best oceanic and the best eu outside t1. (Doesnt mean much, no one has any euros)

I feel they will probably do this at some point if its technically feasible(it may not be) but then if it was they would have done so already, considering a large portion of gw2 players are from Europe.

Ghedoriah.4290:

There’ve been some interesting fights so far. I’ve got to give credit to CD and SBI for coming out strong. I’m just rather concerned that this is going to end up one-sided if we’re allowed to do this every day…

I’m pretty sure this will only last till CD SEA logs in. We’re used to that by now, with Jq, keineng, and db taking and holding everything for 12 + hours every day. all the top tiers have a powerful Asian time zone server, and there is a reason for that.

Waage.2047:

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

http://i.imgur.com/hxEMqkN.jpg

So is it normal to have enemy guilds representing on their opposition server (JQ)?

I assume this is the same MERC guild that I kill every night?

No the name is wrong MERC is Black Lion Mercenary Corps
That MERC is named Black Lion Mercenary Brigade

Black Lion Mercenary Brigade is indeed a MERC sister guild, if memory serves they’re the pve arm of MERC.

I have had many laughs from this thread. It’s been what? 5-6 weeks since SOS last graced t1 with her incredible presence, and yet we are still mentioned in literally every second post. I know we’re amazing guys, but it’s time to move on.

Tken.1986:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Gorefiend.9675:

Ghedoriah.4290:

I’d hesitantly echo this, depending on what happens next week. It seems that a lot of folks are betting on us hitting T6 or 7 (admittedly mostly through wild speculation), but statistically it seems that T4 is going to be about as far as we go. We’re currently operating with basically no dedicated WvW guilds. That is, we’re losing by a margin – but not hideously – in T3 solely on the strength of our PvX guilds and militia. We don’t really have any more to lose and we’re still not losing that badly.

Heya, stepping in here to take a look at a possible future opponent. SoS has actually fared worse against Yaks’ NA than Ehmry has. Going off of that, depending on how big your sea/oceanic presence is, you could end up anywhere from high t6 to low t4. If I were to guess, I would say SoS will mellow out in t5.

We still have one of the largest oceanic profiles of any server so yeah…. I highly doubt we will fall further than t4, like a previous poster said, our strength is based off militia now. you never know I guess.

Congratulations! You guys got the most oceanic presence. Keep emphasizing it and make yourself look like a winner.
So, like 99% of the accomplishments are done by oceanic presence right? or did I misread the bazillion posts in this thread? I almost felt really bad for those who have to play NA time in DB.
I hope Maguuma’s got some oceanic presence, otherwise have fun playing with doors^^

Cry more. I was replying to a previous poster. We can’t all have communities that are actually attractive to non na players. If oceanic/SEA had our own region it wouldn’t be a problem but we don’t, so deal with it.

Gorefiend.9675:

Ghedoriah.4290:

I’d hesitantly echo this, depending on what happens next week. It seems that a lot of folks are betting on us hitting T6 or 7 (admittedly mostly through wild speculation), but statistically it seems that T4 is going to be about as far as we go. We’re currently operating with basically no dedicated WvW guilds. That is, we’re losing by a margin – but not hideously – in T3 solely on the strength of our PvX guilds and militia. We don’t really have any more to lose and we’re still not losing that badly.

Heya, stepping in here to take a look at a possible future opponent. SoS has actually fared worse against Yaks’ NA than Ehmry has. Going off of that, depending on how big your sea/oceanic presence is, you could end up anywhere from high t6 to low t4. If I were to guess, I would say SoS will mellow out in t5.

We still have one of the largest oceanic profiles of any server so yeah…. I highly doubt we will fall further than t4, like a previous poster said, our strength is based off militia now. you never know I guess.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Define, sizable

He wants to know how your coverage will stack up against ours(SOS) in the coming weeks.

I’m personally keen for a rematch with sbi, regardless of who has the better coverage. they have always had talented players, I’m hoping with sbi we will finally have an even opponent that can match us for skill not just coverage.

I can’t believe people still complain about this. If you don’t like it, change tiers or games. Don’t blame the devs for the actions of the players.

….. Said no one ever.

Josh! Seriously people need to review their motivations for playing wvw if the wexp is all that matters. If that happened in map chat in my server I would start raging. It’s just people being idiots, not the systems fault.

#tier1problems…

Rachel.1249:

U guys keep talking bout rangers sucks and such, but at least say out y it sucks and how it sucks!!

Because you have to be an absolute class master to be even moderately effective in any environment. Master of no trade, mediocre of all.