would love to have resign vote system. now i have to waste 5 min per some games
love new system too. especially pip streak!
i love extra boons on dodge idea! +1 would love to get proteciton on dodge
i find it retartet also. Let me show u on example why this is bad for thief. Thief stealth rev spams sword 2 and hits 100% time all 3 projectiles which means death for thief. death mean thief is trash in duel vs rev. everybody plays rev si thief is trash
u are right thief is trash. many reasons but main is that thief class lost its identity. Thief is no longer stealth master, or dps master, or teleport master. its weak. all daredevil does is 7% dmg increase and 1 extra dodge which is nothing compered to scrapper or dh traps. Thief simply does not have iconic moves no more.
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-Either run d/p or s/d. Like someone said previously staff is not much of a +1 weapon and it is outdamaged by d/p. "
staff has 10% higher dps than dp mathematicly proofed somewhere. Autoatack is better ans auto + skill uasage is better for staff. this is one of the reasons why i like staff more
thief is trash but it can still score to ruby
1) most popular build played by Levin:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVl0MhSnY5TwwJw/ELwE2cH8E2C9CDxh2gWCIAkBA-TJBHwAAOEANLDM4IAAc/BA
vollun variation with fist flurry instead of signet (i disagree with this choice)
2) staff build very strong, probably bettter but very hard to master- my preference
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAWVl0MhSnY5TwwJw/EL7Em3SYLcF2CA1m208BsBeBB-TJBHwANLDA4QAAc/hBHBAA
now pro tips:
-surviving is most important so use powder + tp out if u are gettin rekt
- vs rev first dodge then steal to avoid being tounted by passive
- all u have to avoid vs rev is sword 3 with 3Xstaff 3 or dodges, dp can go 5+2
-vs dh first dodge then steal to avoid being kitten d by passive trap daze
-i hate traps as well, best strat vs dh seems to be dodge steal opening + staffautoatack with reflect. it guarantees 50/50 winratio due to 50% reflect upkeep
-vs necro its easy once u interrupt or hit stafff5
-never go in boiler room in team fight, just spam dmg just outside of boiler
-engie duel is easy once u understand all u need to avoid is hammer leap
-thief is best in fighting duels, not team fights so look for isolated targets.
-thief can easily decap enemy and go back to snowball if u have ele
- thief is only class which can teleport from poinc a to c and stay in combat (exept mes tp)
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daredevil respawns with 2 dodges instead of 3
how is it not yet fixed?
also fix plz thief being trash
fix rev sword 3 to fail when evaded instead of dealing 100% dmg despite dodge
I dont know kev. I just died many times to condi war becouse i dont know what to do vs them! they seemed to be extinct but i stood there and couldt even move!
thief is trash pvp so my advice is to give it up. Save your nerves
Dont u feel that winstreak till legend is a bit too much? main function of winstreak is to seperate fast good players from weak players. Giving winstreak till ruby fullfills that role perfectly. If u give all divisions winstreak u get nococ legend in one week. Aint it too fast?
Look at heartstone where u get winstreak till rank 6 or something (range 25-1). First of all i love winstreak, i feel very good and rewarded. And plz dont disable till next season. Have to get those wings.
Noscoc goin 50 games winstreak stright to diamond, soon maybe legend. thats what i call slow mmr settle
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totally agree. thief lost its identity.
if i dont play vs necro i go for bound. otherwise dash is better for chill removal and survivability. bound is harder to play but greater risk the greater the reward is. Still levin prefers dash becouse speed is one of most important thing for thief
your pips are unchanged
i felt something’s wrong since i started using it. i agree it is bugged. it is not giving more speed with swiftness
d/p cs/trick/shawdow arts and autoatack for the win.
are writing a book? i promise it will not be bestseller
1, Helseth is entitled to his opinion, however….
2, There is a reason Helseth is banned from these forums, its so we don’t have to hear him opinions.
3, Helseth is rude and hateful to people on his stream and in game. I have no idea why he chooses to act this way, and I have no idea why arenanet as a corporate entity want to be associated at all with such a toxic individual.
4, He claims it is part of his “persona”. So his persona is making people feel kittenty about themselves by persistently mocking and bullying them? Yeh, great “persona” that is.
5, He might be good now (I have no idea if he is tbh), but he was always overrated in the past. Very overrated. The extent of his skill was telling people how good he was over and over until people believed it. He might be good now (finally) but before that I played him alot and he was an average mesmer who was way behind the best 3/4 mesmers on EU.
I have nothing against him personally. I do, however, think that going out of his way to mock and be rude to a large percentage of people he encounters is not really something that should be tolerated by the community.
Drink for this gentelman!
peasant helseth is wrong. Mes alacrity was usper imba lowering cooldowns by 20 seconds. What is more, helseth is no authority, he is poor player only third place in proleague. And ofc he has big mouth and no respect for other ppl. I wouldnt listen to the helseth
oh boys. Venom share builds were not viable to the present day, becouse they were burst builds which doesnt work in bunker meta. However, developers get rid of most bunker amuls! there is some room, especiallt basilisk is unblockable. Extremely good tool to destory revenant shield.
For now remember: thief is extremely weak in pvp. If u play thief in ranked u are griefing, losing game fomr the start.
thief extremely weak now, so huge buff is understandable. Every class should have a weakness. Thief still will be shaat on by revenant and many more classes.
cool buff still no chance vs revenant due to 5 second tount
u are wrong. your dmg was lower beocuse u didnt get 30% dmg bonus form condi and executioner trait.
PvP badge is no longer visible in the end of pvp match. Is it a bug or delibarate patch not to enrage players when full legends matched vs ambers?
Boys, did u get hard? They say we will be extremly dangerous which is huge step from harmless fly!
“After a dodge roll your next attack is unblockable”
hahahahaa “extremely dangerous” 1 unblockable autoatack
“extremely dangerous” thief. I hope u yo patch will change the fact thief has very low winraito and is considered trash tier becouse of that.
or developer wants thief to be “extreme dangerous” to his own team making it even weaker? While we are are sure what the intetions are we can at least discuss first possibility of buffing thief.
Lets think for a moment what “extreme danger” means in pvp. Everyone will agree that huge dmg. But is it only condition? i dont think so. If it was only condition everybody would play berserk amulets. What then?
Unblockable atacks.
why? becouse revenant has 10 seconds blocks every 20 seconds which grant 10k healing on maruder amul, not mentioning 2 healing skills every 30 seconds. Mesmer has long blocks as well. Two classes mentioned are meta, some teams play two of each every game in pro league.
Huge autoatack dps increase is very good step, but still unblockable atacks on staff and dagger is needed. For example:
new trait: gain +1% dmg buff for 5 seconds each time your atack is blocked (25% cap)
or
your atacks ar unblockable for 5 seocnds when your atack is blocked
For now thief is very weak, but there is some hope on the horizon. Will it be patch of thief? Will it be “extreme dangerous” thief to the enemies or to the teamates?
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hahahaha. U boys realize nobody reads yo esseys 10000 word long. Friendly adivce. Never ever waste yo time in this way
“True, still anet announced to buff melee AA damage.” Jana
Ye, but i dont think they will buff numbers on all weapons autoatacks. They probably will add trait which will add dmg to autoatacks, maybe unblockable effect, or +100% dmg to the next atack when blocked
cs > da in pure dmg
Will the thief become “extremely dangerous”? Transform from harmless fly to vicious predator? Predict your destiny and say what will developers bring to the table!
I think thief’s sneak atack dmg will be tripled and unblockable, also every weapons skill dmg will get +2 % (two) dmg bonus.
i also run CS 1,2,1 which give me perma fury and 86% crit chance and 230% crit dmg with rune of the rage with nice 5% more dmg
but i miss the swiftness from UC
sometimes i take fist fury and if timed right after steal and elite use FF usually finished the job and great with team coordinated assault
also regarding debate which trait line is better
CS is a win versus DA regarding dmg , but DA got nice poison and weakness and immobilize (which every class got some sort of immunity these days)
I agree with immob trait being useless these times. DA not worth it. Some poison and weakness is also usless due to perma resistance. Da give bonus dmg only when below 50% which is very rare.
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Actually critical strikes does more dmg mathematicly speaking which can be easily proved by calculations or jaxnx dps meter.
Herev is the test i conducted. Weapon – staff, any dps combo to kill indestructible golem
Dps meter shows:
cs : 3999 dps av
da: 3200 dps av
i got hard when i read “extremely dangerous”. still thief is no match to rev. SADLY THERE IS NO WAY THIEF IS DANGEREOUS UNLESSS IT HAS UNBLOCKABLE ATACKS VS REV OR MES SHIELD
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they cant simply add 30% dmg to all autoatacks. No denying that. Adding some burn or bleed on autoatacks is useless on maruder amul.
However adding 25 voln on each auto might be op, but seems to be only way
all war stances on 30 sec cooldown. it will bring back the beast
Only problem i see here that only 10 top teams are visible. Top ten which is not eligable for promotion to proleague via guild team ladder due to already being in pro league.
i hope also legendary ladder will be visible, not only top 5 ppl.
its good pve, best dps, but pvp its trash tier
if u play a thief, your team will be mad becouse its like a player in basketball who plays with one hand only on purpose.
they flaming u becouse u are the football player who goal his own team. once more, playing thief is like playing with autoatacks only
friendly reminder thief is trash tier pvp. not diving deep into topic, there is mathematical proof thief traits are very weak value.
Bristleback f2 basically won’t hit anyone unless they are on the same horizontal plane as Spike Barrage has to follow a parabolic path. I couldn’t hit someone in WvW and PvE who were at a lower slope just 1 metre from me
This.
I’m not sure but the Bristleback might also be trying to use F2 while out of range sometimes as well.
not ture that spike barrage is not hitting. it hits like a track in pvp. It deals like 3 X 3k dmg and its probably bugged this deals so much dmg beocuse its listed as 3X sepreate skills
wtf is htis topic? mallyx has perma condi immunity…
queing with ambers is not wrong as long those ambers are not fake accouts of good players.
Bound + =blackpwder + steal + hidden thief results in landing on target and being REVEALED! wtf! if u take away hidden thief trait (stealth on steal) u deal dmg to target and end up NOT REVEALED! Currently it seems thief is forced to take trash regeneration trait instead of stealth on steal beoucse of this situation
sapphire is lower lvl
U can switch class at the near end of match if u want to complete pvp backpack achi. U ll get rank points, reward track exp and achi for winning a game with different class
CONCLUSION: u dont have to play trash tier warrior or thief to complete backpack achi, and plz dont play trash tier classes.
in pve thief is best dps on berserk, but pvp its trash tier