Guild Wars 2

Agrees, SPVP should have all skills unlocked. You can lock it for PVE/WVW.

thanks for the inspiration! something new to say if a battle is lost due to 4v5/rabbits/goldfarmer/hotjoin zerg masters in solo queues. All is Vain!

that dragon is from magic the gathering card game,identical features

http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=204980

bumpz. For the PVP team awareness on the “soon to be” redundant pvp items

PVP Masquerade set can still be forged. Here’s proof and how it looks like. I forged it last week.

That’s the real deal guys. After viewing the pvp live stream of “ready up” with the dev character at spvp rank 203 and applying gw2 dragon logic, it all adds up.

It takes 5 person or lesser to kill Zhaitan, a fierce looking ELDER dragon.
It takes more than 30 person to kill sunless, a sausage looking peon dragon.
Thus gw2 dragon logic dictates that the sillier the dragon looks,the tougher it is.

I’m pretty sure the silly dragon in that rank finisher is a spvp rank 200 legendary dragon! Gratz bro! I wanna be just like u when i grow old, my hero!

exinax.2178:

Also it’s still not clear what is inside the Mystery Coffer

maybe its rank 1-80 gears since the 8 different tiers of glory vendor is removed

Phantom Master.9582:

I disagree about the compensation for us PvP players, we used to play for a 200 rank point chest/win, not 1000. We knew when it was unannounced that our rewards would be this low, and we decided to still play team arena. I don’t see a reason why Anet should use their PvP development time for something like this. We were aware of our low rewards, and yet we still played. It is not Anet’s fault for our decisions. Getting 1k rank points a win in the future should be taken as a gift.

We’re asking for it mainly due to skyhammer exploiters who are not penalised for their actions. If they were punished and their exploited rank/glory gains were removed, I would not care for the retroactive rank points instead.

retroactive rank points rewards per TPVP match played and bonus retroactive rank points for TPVP match wins please! And thank you.

Its alright, I feel better now.Not going to pursue the matter anymore. I guess consolation from another person is all it takes for the frustration to subside haha.

Thanks for the replies all. I appreciate it.

Went through fractal 48 up to last boss at 4th fractal, after a couple of wipes party leader decided to kick another player and me without notice,not sure who his friend was that click the kick button for other guy and me. I screenshot all party leader names before starting any dungeon/fractal so I whispered him. He quickly blocked me after i whispered him.

The other player and I,who was kicked didn’t bring the team down as all of us have played well up to last boss. Swamp,CLiff,Dredge,Mai trin. It was more of a rage kick since he wasn’t patient enough to try again.But now we are losing out on the last chest for 48 and the progression due to this unfair kick.Any dev can help bring justice?

5 signet warrior,the trolling cheese

It just takes one professional necro to make a new build that works around this new healing skill. Then we might get a thread that says, “signet of vamp is too OP,nerf pls” haha!

give it time, good players will think off something to make it work, or at least try to make it work.

unfortunately the vendor is temporary,so that means we need to get it all b4 it disappears

RaynStargaze.6510:

give anyone a tiny finger and he’ll tear your kittening head off

also you couldve just used those glory boosters while playin

<3333

Why do i need more glory when its going to be obsolete?was using them for all my TPVP matches.

Hi there PVP team.

Please enable us to exchange our;
1) glory boosters,
2)pvp gear ingredients(arcane mats,animal tokens, item tokens) and
3)consumable animal finishers

;to be converted into useful and meaningful reward, thank you!

Reason for 1, glory soon be obsolete.
Reason for 2, pvp gear crafting will be obsolete.
Reason 3, for those who have the permanent animal finishers, the consumable version are useless.

Please enable us to exchange all the items that will be made redundant! Thank you!

P.S Please don’t tell me to use my 300+ glory booster or forge pvp items(already forged every amour that is available up to tiger tier as per screenshot)

“Cultural armor set – 20k glory 1g50silver for tier 1. 40k glory and 3g50silver for tier 2.. 60k glory and 60 gold for tier 3. Prices for for whole sets. Armor is useable within spvp only.”

Will we be able to get the emperor achievement by getting all the cultural set from spvp?

rmbr to abuse every mechanic or terrain in hopes of glitching. Better to identify and fix groundbreaking exploits early b4 it gets out on live server.

haf fun doing bad things for the greater good!

wvw season 1 achievement chest would probably be pathetic.

Fractured meta achievement rewards is 1 bloodstone brick/1 emp star/1 dragonite and it takes less than 1 day to clear.

season 1 meta achievement chest would most probably be 3 bloodstone brick/3 emp star/3 dragonite since it takes less than 3 days to clear and the deadline is 49 days after season 1 started.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

easiest class to use that excels at every aspect of the game.

either warrior need more nerfs or other class need to be boosted up to the same level.

OR! You ACTUALLY need to learn 2 play your class!

This is Gw2 people. Anyone can beat anyone. You have no excuse!

PS: <3 slaughtering unsuspecting warriors with my thief _

haha! warrior is so easy to use that i think my 5 signet warrior can beat your thief u want it in wvw or tpvp?
its ok if i lose,i can just say “i used a 5 signet warrior,what do u expect?” haha!

Pvp rank progression was ruined by hotjoins and skyhammer exploits.
Penalising the exploiters might be a huge undertaking as it will involve alot of investigation and effort.
Removing pvp rank progression entirely will just make all the efforts of the legit players go to waste.

I suggest we need to boost up the rank points of legit TPVP players effort so that whatever rank that was gained in hotjoin or the skyhammer,will seem trivial to TPVP players. How this is to be executed is via retroactive reward,similar in a sense to how achievement points reward was first implemented.

Since Data for our matches is already recorded,this would be easy to be executed with accuracy.

For every TPVP match played from 2012 up to 10 dec 2013 patch, a player will earn X Rank points per match. That player will earn a bonus Y Rank points per match won in TPVP. X and Y should be a huge number so as to render the hotjoin and skyhammer farming to be insignificant, for example 2000 rank points for X and 4000 rank points for Y. Taking my data for example,

I’ve played 1656 tournament matches and won 843 tournament matches as of today. Assuming i stop playing until 10 dec 2013 when the retroactive reward starts, base on the data above,i would gain 6684000 rank points on 10 Dec 2013.

These would render all the efforts of the skyhammer exploiter and the hotjoin farmers to be meaningless. This can also serve as an incentive for top tpvp players who have since quit gw2,to return,as the amount of games they have played and won,would have catapulted them high into the ranks.

After which, spvp rank would really separate the hotjoin heroes/skyhammer exploiters from the legit tpvp players.

From here onwards, the rank points for tpvp should remain significantly higher so as to render any form of hotjoin farming to be futile.

I would like to comment on the idea that was mentioned by smiley , “The bigger the difference, the more points for the winners and less for the losers”

Due to low population of spvp players,its hard to get a team arena match at certain times, thus you have a higher chance of facing the same team over and over again.
Thus the idea above can easily be abused by 10 gold farmers. Take turns maxing out on rewards.

Why I say so? Soloqueue is more popular than Team queue,but even when playing solo queue,i keep seeing the same players over and over again in a few hours of playing. Some might say due to MMR,but its more likely due to low numbers of players as well.

My idea for a solution to this type of abuse? The reward should be based on the opponents you have played with for the day(24hours).

In 1st match,you beaten player A,B,C,D,E. Your reward is 5 bonus reward for beating new opponents of the day, a fixed reward for winning the match and “end of match participation gold reward which varies based on performance"

In your 2nd match, if you beaten player A,C,D,E,F. Your reward is 1 bonus reward for 1 new opponent for the day and a fixed reward for winning the match and “end of match participation gold reward which varies based on performance"

The bonus reward should be very high in its amount so that a player feel rewarded but at the same time,he cannot farm that reward in a controllable manner.

The fixed reward for winning should be high so that the incentive to win as a team is there. The fixed reward will have diminishing returns if you win against the same opponents.

The participation/performance reward should be medium so that a player can still get rewarded for his effort,yet at the same time,the reward should not be big enough to make the player compromise the teamwork for the sake of farming the participation/performance reward

The losing team should only receive participation/performance reward. So that whoever afk or sabotages the match, does not get rewarded. Only those in the losing team who continue to fight and rack up some scores will get the participation/performance reward.

What about 499 score losing to 500 score? well too bad,try again.

This idea however, does not solve the problem of AFK players.

Below is the link to my idea for solving the problem of AFK players made 17 days ago.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Saboteurs/first#post3223403

Will the official leaderboard for TPVP be developed further to show us the Profession and the pvp rank* of the top 1000 players, or top 100 at least?

• this might be obsolete if pvp rank is removed

easiest class to use that excels at every aspect of the game.

either warrior need more nerfs or other class need to be boosted up to the same level.

T1 wood + T1 bronze = plated dowel. Cheap and abundant in supply.

thanks for the link on the info Krayiss!

kindly link the information regarding the details of the new skills, thanks

I have a question regarding the old/new MMR. How long will it take the new MMR to stabilise?
In the old MMR,i was ranging in the 600+ rank on NA solo queue leaderboards.

After the MMR resets,I’ve gradually increased my rank from 900+ to 500+ to 200+ and now I’m in the 180+.

Also,what happened to the 400 players who had better ratings than me in the past?Did decay remove them or was the old MMR not consistent enough to give accurate ratings?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

actually, i came up with an excellent method to determine the “end of match participation gold reward” formula.

use team points. really. it is that simple.

for example,
if end of match participation gold reward for team arena is 1 gold
winning team scores 500
losing team scores 300
winning team gets 500 / 500 × 1.00 gold = 1.00 gold
losing team gets 300 / 500 × 1.00 gold = 0.60 gold
winning team then gets additional 2 gold for winning the match
losing team gets 0.60 gold for their effort of 300 team points

then we look at another scenario where one team destroys the other team
winning team scores 649
losing team scores 100

winning team gets 649 / 500 × 1.00 gold = 1.298 gold
losing team gets 100 / 500 × 1.00 gold = 0.20 gold

in this system, if people wanna farm in team arena, they need to put in some effort to score some team points or else they do not get much at all.

Supports this idea

John Corpening.9847:

Would you keep rank acquisition the same as it is now?

If not, what would you do to improve rank acquisition?

Thanks again!

John

My 2 cents would be, keep the rank acquisition as it is. If you are a rank 71 and working towards your dragon finisher,that would render all your effort meaningless if the dragon rank is removed.

How to improve rank acquisition? Make a separate one that is only progressed through winning in Solo/Team arenas. New skin/finishers unlocked after certain amount of wins in arenas. Also, unique finishers/skins for class specific wins.

E.G 500 TPVP wins using a Necro will unlock a unique finisher in which the earth around the downed person becomes a grave and zombified hands will break out from the grounds,grabbing the downed person and pulling it into the grave.

1000 TPVP wins using a Necro will unlock a unique finisher which continues further upon the 500 TPVP win version, in which after the body is pulled into the grave,Grenth himself appears and extracts the soul from the grave of the downed enemy and completely destroy the soul in a beautiful yet tragic way.

Since there is a spawn timer after death,might as well let the dead enemies enjoy the sweet and long animation of the awesome finisher!

Kline.9561:

Well I’m glad that my topic has generated so much brainstorming and debate

but the major concern that I’m seeing from most players is:
will gold or any amount of money from losses make people want to afk and bot?

I think it will, simply because as it has been show in almost all mmo’s if you give players an inch they will take a mile.

personally I don’t think you should gain any amount of gold from a loss in any mode only wins (that could be a big incentive for people to want to play competitively, in it to win it i say) and if you do have to earn something from a loss make it something like a consolation such as mystic forge materials to make pvp gear slivers dust etc.

Agrees with you.

If losing in tpvp rewards gold, then the gold farmers will make the tpvp scene unhealthy.

It only takes 1 gold farmer to ruin the entire team because the remaining 4 will lose morale to play. The moment one person from the remaining four gives up,its 3v5. Then the entire team gives up. Their MMR suffers and they get matched with ppl with lower MMR. Gold farmers who afk farm tpvp matches will have low MMR also.

A new breed of goldfarmers will evolve. They will let the enemy capture 3 points so that the match ends faster. Thus a new match can start and more gold can be farmed.

Please do not reward gold for losing!

Got to wait until they beat scale 39 first. Last livestream that we saw,they did not clear scale 39. Good luck with the challenge devs!

Josh Davis.6015:

tichorum.2415:

HOTJOIN is getting gold? Lol this will be good.

I’m not at the office so I can’t look it up, but if I remember correctly, you get more gold for LOSING Team Arena than you’d get for WINNING a CA/hotjoin match.

Please reconsider. This will ruin what is left of the competitive TPVP in GW2.
We already have problems with AFK in tpvp. If gold is rewarded for losing, why bother winning or even playing in the match? This will make AFK in tpvp more rampant.
Strongly recommend that this gold reward for losing is totally scrapped.

Justin ODell.9517:

cymerdown.4103:

They could keep the changes to the reward system, but just not remove ranks and their finishers. Just have it as this little side progression thing, but not have it display anywhere except on your PvP menu and maybe keep the progress bar on the bottom. This way, you still get the cool new rewards, and yes glory is now gone, but rank points and the rank finishers will remain.

The finishers are not going away. You will likely have until the first ladder season to earn them. After that they can’t be earned, but you will continue to have them. If all you want is additional finishers to work toward, be sure to mention that in the rewards discussion.

Hi Justin. Instead of completely removing the rank finishers that we have yet to unlock when the ladder is in place, can we be given a reservation of just the next rank finisher instead? What i mean is, if someone who is rank 64 when the ladder is in place. he will have the rank 70 finisher reserved for him, so he can play at his own pace and use it once he gets to rank 70. But the rank 80 will not be available to him. Basically its to avoid making our progress redundant. Imagine the pain of being rank 69 and having the rank 70 finisher robbed from you because you couldn’t get to 70 before the ladder is in place.

On another note, please leave the current daily achievement for PVP as it is. Adding 4 new dailies in TPVP will not help the TPVP scene, it will only attract people who wants to clear their dailies and not actually contribute to team play or aiming to win. It will be like hotjoin heroes,having more than 1 person capping an uncontested capture point.
The TPVP players are already little in number,do not fix something that is not broken,you’ll just lose more TPVP players.

I do not speak for everyone,but if you need credibility of how passionate and serious i am about GW2, I’ve played 3614 hours in the past 456 days,rank 81 on NA Achievement Points official leaderboards,rank 239 on NA Solo queue official leaderboards as off this very hour.

coglin.1867:

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

haha,good story bro. at least I’m good enough to be in the top 300 of the tpvp official leaderboards when fighting opponents on a fair playing field unlike you WVWer.

Winning against lvl 2 players who are doing map completion in wvw is not something to be proud off.

At least beat me in the TPVP leaderboards before talking as though you know something about PVP.

Interestingly enough, I am ranked over 19 slots higher then you on the tpvp official leaderboards. You make inaccurate assumptions to suggest that because I disliked your rude and uninformed comments, that I am not successful there. Since you were throughing PvP rank around as if it means something here, does this, by your standards make my opinion have 19 points of value more then yours?

Another good story bro. You seem to make stories up without proof.
coglin.1867, MoG from Jade Quarry so your suppose to be on NA leaderboards if you’re talking the truth.

This is the latest leaderboard as of 3rd Dec 2013,1823hrs PST. Don’t see your name at all from rank 1 to rank 300.
No need to lie to win a useless argument bro. Peace out.

coglin.1867:

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

Why I don’t bother with WVW.
Because winning in WVW is not a measure of skills nor tactics. It just means you have more players,more player coverage throughout the 1 week and more players who are not upscaled to lvl 80. Nothing glorious beating opponents with superior numbers/equipment/level. I rather beat my opponents with superior playing skills and tactics.

It is better to be silent and let other think you a fool, then to open it and prove them right. Of coarse, I didn’t know you or think you a fool before you made this post. Now I still do not know you, but I cannot say much on your behalf on the other aspect.

A 1v1 or 1v2 in WvW is no less skillful a battle then in PvP. Coordinating 100+ players in TS or havok group clashes, both have a very solid level of skill.

Based on your level of bitterness though, you must have lost many more 1v1 and 1v2 battles in WvW then you do in PvP.

haha,good story bro. at least I’m good enough to be in the top 300 of the tpvp official leaderboards when fighting opponents on a fair playing field unlike you WVWer.

Winning against lvl 2 players who are doing map completion in wvw is not something to be proud off.

At least beat me in the TPVP leaderboards before talking as though you know something about PVP.

Leaderboards has it benefits.

I’m rank 82 in the NA official leaderboards for PVE.
Why I farm AP?
Because I’ve already completed the game 1 year ago and have no goals left. So I want to unlock equipment skins,get free gems,gold,mega achievement chest with lots of goodies inside. And I’ve been in the top 100 ever since the leaderboard was first implemented, so I hope to stay on it for as long as I can until PS4 Deep Down and Dark Souls 2 is out.

I’m rank 236 in the NA official leaderboards for Solo queue TPVP.
Why I improve my MMR.
Because I want to play against stronger opponent who have skills on a level playing field. Players in the higher rank of the leaderboard care for their placement and will not AFK or sabotage their game since it will affect their MMR. So you get better and more challenging matches at higher ranks.

Why I don’t bother with WVW.
Because winning in WVW is not a measure of skills nor tactics. It just means you have more players,more player coverage throughout the 1 week and more players who are not upscaled to lvl 80. Nothing glorious beating opponents with superior numbers/equipment/level. I rather beat my opponents with superior playing skills and tactics.

Thank you Yamagawa, Vilandra and Jeffrey for the information. Story has successfully progressed. Much appreciated!

I’ve sent 2 bug report so far. Is anybody working on this? Help pls,thanks

Zacchary.6183:

Logan runs away and Scarlet starts laughing her kitten off. She begins choking on her spit and then dies from suffocation.

Glorious.

Yeah, Logan and Scarlet. 2 clowns should finish each other off.

DoYourBestBear.6810:

I intend to go beyond the bounds of that challenge. The intention is to be number one in both team and solo q simultaneously.

Awesome! history in the making

inb4 history is made

You do not miss out on content with expansions and you can play at your own pace.

You miss out on content every 2 weeks with Living Story if you do not play enough within 2 weeks.

If scarlet was successfully caught during the Queen’s Jubilee, i think people would have liked Scarlet better.
Then maybe 6~10months later, another villain could aid in her escape from the prison and players would likely be less kitten ed off at seeing her again.

Just like Mad King thorn,the main reason we are not sick and tired of the mad king is because we have 11~12 months of break from him.If we keep seeing the mad king for a few months of LS,i’m sure he will be the 2nd scarlet.

clint.5681:

NA hero, here is the updated screen shot

Rank 8 on the leaderboard has 10 wins and 3 loses.
Rank 10 on the leaderboard has 11 wins and 3 loses.
Rank 15 on the leaderboard has 11 wins and 9 loses.

Goes to show how unstablised the TPVP SoloQ leader-board is at this point in time if players with less than 20 matches can be in the top 15.

To the TS/OP, If you can maintain being number 1 until Jan 2014,then you have proven to be the greatest. Challenge accepted?

Maliel.8362:

I knew this armor looked familiar.

Hell yes! I want my elite knight set from Dark souls!

it explodes on 20 stack and does massive dmg,so max stack before exploding is 19.
Just type in the internal LFG system for the specific achievement so you can get people with the same interest,but u need to have at least 1 person who can open story mode

If you are in the fractal,the top right of your screen will display fractal level as well as personal reward level.

If you are outside the fractal,you can go to the portal at lion arch and it will show you your level.

1)Best way to clear this achievement is on story mode so that you don’t have to waste time trying to be lucky to get this fractal.

2)Need 4 cooperative person and 1 person who never completed story mode since you cannot start story mode once you’ve completed it.

3) Max stacks before exploding is 19 stacks

4) Switch off auto attack so that you do not hit 20 stacks by mistake.

5) Only way to increase the stack is during the shield(invulnerable) phase.

6) Assign 1 person to carefully bring the stack to 19,others stop at 10 stack or 15 stacks depending on how well their control of dps is.

7) Bleed counts as stacks so do not use an attack that bleeds

8) Control or deactivate your pets so you do not attack accidentally

9)Practice the 19 stacks throughout the battle so you get the hang of it at the end.

10) Bring down the Champ Ooze HP to around 3~5% and stop dps,wait for shield stage.

11) Kill smaller ooze to stop them from healing the Champ Ooze

12) Once the champ ooze is at 3~5% hp, and has 19 stack,wait for it to start attacking, once it does,you can finish it off.

13) The 19 stack will start to decrease but you can still get the achievement when u kill it as the stacks is decreasing. Confirmed by my team when we kill it as the 19 stack was decreasing to 17 stack.

Pictures to back up my confirmation.My thanks to the party members and good luck to fellow achievement hunters!

I’ve checked the quest again today,Thieving from thieves personal story is still bugged for me. I hope some Dev can help,thanks.