Guild Wars 2

Which warrior skills are easy to land? What damage mitigation does warrior have besides stances? none.

Compared to other professions they have so many skills that are either easier to land. Some land automatically and take no skill at all to land. Some have zero counter play.

Other professions have tons of ways to mitigate damage, a lot of them are passives requiring no skill at all. Others don’t requires utility slots at all.

I don’t understand how people from your company continue to officially spread false information about warriors being so easy to play as a justification for making them so weak and buffing every other profession through the roof.

If it’s so easy try playing your game for once.

Kolly.9872:

Warlord.9074:

22k seems not true but I got hit for 8k in WvW by vault on my warrior with 2.8k Armor. The skill was an evade and done in stealth I also think its unblockable. Very Broken skill.

Good Job ANET at balancing have a medal.

First to OP: there’s combat log you know? Next time don’t rush to forum writing nonsense but take 2 seconds of your life for a screenshot so we can actually take you seriously.

#Warlord: vault can actually being blocked/interrupted with a good timing since the evade doesn’t last for the full skill animation. Also do you think it’s unblockable? How about checking the skill tooltip before posting false things on the forum?

I don’t understand what difference it makes. It’s in the same category as sword 3 on Rev. If you don’t like that I’m sorry. Whatever little counter play you claim the skill has it’s still very little.

22k seems not true but I got hit for 8k in WvW by vault on my warrior with 2.8k Armor. The skill was an evade and done in stealth I also think its unblockable. Very Broken skill.

Good Job ANET at balancing have a medal.

Warrior could be OK if other professions damage and damage mitigation wasn’t so high.

As a warrior you can deal with the damage to a point not saying its not too high because it is. But you cant deal with that and high sustain of the other professions. Namely Scrapper, Revenant, Chronomancer, Druid, Tempests, Reapers and you can’t deal with he high evade spam of Dare Devils.

All of these new builds have more sustain than you and can deal as much or more damage much more easy than you.

ANET doesn’t care about 1v1. If they did that would mean they would have to balance the game. The Cop-out is they will balance the game around 5v5 but we know thats not balanced also and never has been.

Professions in HOT like Rev and Specializations like DH etc. Require no skill at all ANET likes this.

Arc divider really isn’t hard to land thats why I’m embracing berserk spec right now. Gunflame is also not as hard to land as a normal kill shot. I fell like berserker spec tries to make our bursts more easy to land but it doesn’t go far enough with some other skills and doesn’t adress adrin decay however while you are in in adrin is not hard to build.

lol its a lot easyer to land dammage as a necro than it is a warrior. Literally all necros have to do is push buttons. You don’t have to use skills that are 130 range that only hit a target if you are literally right ontop of them and they can’t dodge or use any number of other skills to counter you.

When you fight other classes on a warrior it’s like a really old car trying to compete with a new one. Perhaps ANET wants warriors to be like really old cars. I don’t know what I do know is an old car can beat a new one if you put a really fast motor in it. Thats what warrior needs. Some new technology to deal with the current meta.

It’s core warrior.

Put a transparent barrier over the tops of keeps and towers and allow players to glide on those maps in WvW.

These new maps are really vertical like the new HoT maps but without gliding. Just make it so players cant glide into the keeps and towers and done.

Necros should start at zero because warriors start at zero Adrenaline. Stop crying necros. Be happy you don’t lose all of your life force the second you leave combat or miss a skill.

Lets see. Warriors need adrenaline for healing, Condi clearing, CC, Damage and damage sounds like they need it for everything good try sabre. Now also they can’t use their elite without full adrenaline. So don’t complain.

^ got trolled hard.

It’s that it gave us zero tools to deal with the new meta elites everyone else got and core warrior is bottom of the barrel now.

Zivsof.3746:

he run the new meta Axe shield Gs

It’s not new it’s over 2 years old. Not even new in gear or runes.

Truth is Herald Rev does not might stack better than PS warrior. It doesn’t come close and it takes a huge dps hit doing so and warrior does not.

I’m not really OK with it but its better.

Sorry to say but thats the third different video Ive seen showing me a indistuctable golem lined up perfectly so that the Longbow hitboxes over lap as a justification for someones opinion on this board.

Do you ever stop and think for one second thats not going to happen all the time or even most the time in practice in open world since enimies move and 2ndly that it could be bug.

cant agree with camping longbow. Yes I tried it. the multiple hit boxes is situational.

Glad to hear your taking some advice. I don’t think any warriors really run shouts anymore. It heals for like 1k which is basically nothing and they barely give you much adrinaline. your beter off with with traits like burst mastery or furious. You are better off using some sigil like leching, sigil of blood, omn pies etc for life steal for extra healing.

If you need some better defense a stance is the way to go for oh no button honestly.

The adrin changes were bad changes when they were implemented. They were implemented because some lazy player who was also bad suggested anet to do it at some party in las vegas and they listened to them.

TheFibrewire.6845:

should give and increased damage boost for few moments at least

no thats not the problem or the solution.

I’m not sure a rev can take the spot of might stacking in PVE from warrior if a warrior is available. However I have yet to see any herald supoort spec vids showing their DPS rotations. Only seen scrubs talk like its better. But for all I know they don’t play warriors so don’t know what they are talking about.

Dude I run around in new maps and have 3 out of 4 maps complete in full zerk with no shouts or defense. If you can’t do it no build will help you because its the way you control your character not the build. It has nothing to do with being patient I run around with a GS and sword warorn. I have 10 times the movement utility and speed that you do so being patient isn’t a valid excuse. Becasue you have to be 100 times more patient than me with your mov speed.

I also Promise you that I kill things 3 times faster than this build with my build so I promise you that you are slow speed with this set up. Low defense also.

Setun.4368:

There’s traits to make it give you stability pulses while berserk, and if you were to ‘die’ while berserk you get a 5k heal instead…..how is that not enough?

It’s not berserker is still the weakest elite.

I been playing warrior for years, tried everything. Traditional wisdom tells me you want runes of aristocracy for any warrior condi build for starters doesn’t matter if its hybrid or not.. Also the hybrid nature of your build I think the power is wasted because your precision is too low even with fury.

Other thing all of the vitality in your build is not needed. Especially if you are running shout heals. Just would go full sinister. If you can get Vipers thats good also.
All of the defense and tankyness of your build screams PVP or WvW not PVE. You don’t need so much defense in PVE.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAsfTjMdQlH25BmhAnIWWCsjAwCYml8CuB9g3b7vt4C-TRSGABA8AAg+QAAsyv20Ho7JAQKlg+q+TCHBA22fgUA3N2C-e

Look at the picture hes already dead with a bunch of arrows sticking out of him.

Zdenny.2704:

Warlord.9074:

The problem is that was a warrior you have to work twice as hard to do constant damage and survive than any other class.

It seems like you have never played anything else but warrior. Any class is hard to master, but warriors are one of the easiest to master.

Wrong warriors are currently the hardest class to play in PVP.

I don’t understand what the disconnect is between ANET and warriors. Problem isn’t damage. Buffing warrior damage in Berserk mode is welcomed in that the warrior sacrifices too much damage to run Berserker.

I am not here to complain about damage though. As a warrior if you can fight through all of the other classes mechanics and in general get out of jail free cards. The damage is fine. The problem is that was a warrior you have to work twice as hard to do constant damage and survive than any other class.

These new elite specs you have given other classes go too far in countering warriors as if warriors were not easily countered before which they were. As a warrior you really want to get in there and do some damage the fact is you canot only not get in there but once you are in there you cant get out unlike every other class and sustain.

Having more HP as a warrior literally does nothing to make you more sturdy than anyone else. Every class has literally more sustain than warriors almost and deals as much or more damage.

So what exactly is warriors role if every other class can do what their role is better.

Mitch.4781:

Amins.3710:

Mitch.4781:

One word for you:

Dodge.

If you still can’t figure it out – Arken has a video you should watch.

You get 2 dodges and and an endurance bar. This means that you cannot dodge every assault that comes your way. If you didn’t know this, check out Arkens video.

Not everyone plays a thief or a ranger with infinite evades.

OP sounds like a DEV that never played the game before. Must be the Warrior Dev in disguise.

It’s not good I would give you suggestions but you probably wouldn’t like them so just have fun with it. If you went through the trouble to post it here than you must think its good. So I guess.

I just dropped PVP and WvW all I do is PVE now.

ANET doesn’t listen to us.

Been suggested unfortunately how warrior is designed just taking the trait line you are weaker.

Burtnik.5218:

choovanski.5462:

Jelzouki.4128:

The amount of damage this skill does for being an evade is ridiculous and the damage needs to be nerfed if it is still going to be an evade.

whenever I see UA hitting for 10k+ while evading and tracking I look at warrior’s 100b, and I just wonder how the heck is that still a stationary skill.

Blame warrior community that been saying hb is fine the way it is cus they wanted to run their cookie cutter skullcrack lolz build when people asked rework it and make mobile. Olny warrior community is here to blame really and i do not feel sorry for them at all. Actually the opposite.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Skull crack was never a viable build and they still nerfed it, in 3 different ways. Same with the nerf to 100b. Warriors have had every sing weapon nerfed directly and indirectly multiple ways and times.

Since Launch Guardians are the most solid profession. They are needed in nearly every game mode. Why would ANET give them the most over powered elite in the game. What are you thinking.

Then Warriors you throw under the bus again. All warriors should demand thier money back.

balance is the worst it’s ever been.

Can’t say they don’t know what they put in their own game. They knew exactly what they were doing. Everything was extensively tested.

Ice.5162:

I don’t think they decided to make them bad, they just naturally fell behind since they balanced everything else around them.

Doesn’t seem balanced that can’t be true.

Just simple question can we get an answer please.

DrDivine.5378:

Warlord.9074:

Some ANET Dev goes out to PVE on a warrior does 100 blades and says warrior is an easy class. I bet nobody in ANET has ever taken a warrior and tried to be competitive with it in high level PVP vs other skilled players on other professions. This has happened never. If they have that person has no input on warrior at their company or isn’t listened to.

Even if you’re just doing normal pvp with some friends, it still sucks lol. The berserker heal could’ve been an excellent addition because with the balthazar runes its a heal that does two extra stacks of burning with the right trait. However, a heal that has a horrible base heal and completely relies on you putting the pressure on the enemy makes it very unreliable.

I’m still questioning what the warrior role is supposed to be, it’s not reliable damage because dragonhunter, chronomancer and reaper are simply a better options, it’s not team support because there are better options from druid. Why take a gs warrior for damage when DH can do the same thing at range and provide aoe crowd control via traps with a more reliable burst? Warrior is supposed to be the faceroll profession, so why are we working so hard to try and make it work competitively with no results?

Warrior Role was supposed to be a class with a sturdy body that and a simplistic design that can deal steady hard damage to defeat it’s enemy’s. Here is the problem every other class now preforms this role better. They are all now very durable and do asinine amounts of damage with more complex mechanics that give them get out of jail free cards.

Warrior just simple can’t compete anymore because the problem at anet is the left had has no idea what the right hand is doing. ANET applies all of these rules and strict standards to warrior development and they throw it out the window whenever working on another class.

Some ANET Dev goes out to PVE on a warrior does 100 blades and says warrior is an easy class. I bet nobody in ANET has ever taken a warrior and tried to be competitive with it in high level PVP vs other skilled players on other professions. This has happened never. If they have that person has no input on warrior at their company or isn’t listened to.

meow one twenty.4376:

Are people for or against having Warrior being better for Power and Berserker being better for Condition? Just curious.

From everything I read majority of people are against Berserker Spec in general. It’s a interesting conceptual idea that doesn’t work for power or conditions. Equipping it hurts the warrior sustain, utility, defense, CC, mobility, and damage.

Most players agree that no amount of changes to Berserker spec can make it work as it is basically garbage and you can polish a kitten but it will always be a kitten .

ANET messed this up big time. Warrior already had plenty of damage and condition dammage they could of given the warrior a utility tree instead but what they tried to give them was more condition damage that fails at even doing that.

I always run full zerk new map no exception. There are a couple monsters. Smoke Scale, pocket raptor that hit hard other than that everything is fine. Learn to dodge, use a gs, axe/shield if you have to. Equip stances. Learn to play.

Thief started out as the best class to kill other players with, rangers were not always in a bad spot in PVP. Spirit rangers and bunker rangers were quite strong in old metas and thief used to require no skill other than to press 2 over and over at one time.

The truth is until warrior got buffs like CI and Healing sig they were not very good. Thief has suffered as much as it has because of how rediclous OP they were when the game launched. I can’t really sympathize.

same thing everyone else has tried with no success.

Keitaro Dragonheart.9047:

JTGuevara.9018:

Keitaro Dragonheart.9047:

Warlord.9074:

State of Warrior is bad because ANET let people touch it who have no idea what they are doing with warriors.

This. And warrior players crying over how supposedly bad warrior is? Pathetic. Try thief. They’re FAR worse off than warrior. A lobotomized pigeon could crap randomly over the keyboard and still be good at warrior. Especially compared to thief.

EDIT: I take that back; warrior actually does require skill now. JUST like everybody else has for a long time!

“-le gasp- You mean I can’t faceroll the keyboard anymore?! QQ ermagerd, we’z unapowuhed, need buffs, switch class, durr durr!”

I know right? Thieves are annoying, but at least they take skill! Because of their naturally low HP/def they CANNOT make mistakes! They HAVE to get up close. They have to know when to stealth. I played thief back at release, my first character, and I quit because I just wasn’t good at it.

What it is, is that these cry baby warriors have played face roll easy mode for so long, that now that they actually have to think, it feels like warrior is in a bad spot. It’s really not. They just want to be able to win with little to no effort. Seriously, they could give warrior the ability to deal 300k, mobile 100 blades damage from stealth without revealed, with full immunity to damage and control effects, and they’d still find something to whine about.

Playing warrior in PVP has never been face roll against skilled opponents. Don’t talk about PVE here becasue warrior has never had the highest PVE DPS. ANET has given every class abilities to counter warriors simplistic attacks. You literally had to be sleeping on you keyboard to not counter a warrior. Easy to play hard to win VS better players on other classes.

Warrior was in a relatively good spot before the expansion and its still in the same spot as it was. Problem is no other classes are still in the same spot they were. They are in better spots than they already were and were already capable of beating warriors without skill.

If you think it required skill to beat a warrior on another class think again. If you came in here to tell me that it requires no skill as a warrior to beat skilled players show me.

If you are saying hey I can pick up a warrior and beat noobs that cant dodge and dont know how to play what are you trying to prove.

Not to sound like a shrink but please someone explain to me the thought process behind thinking that a stun to yourself not only good but also justifiable. Justifiable as in comparing Headbutt to other skills in the game that are similar.

Also please dont give me a some sort of logical justification like well in real life u head butt someone it hurts lol this is a game not real life and if we applied that logic to this game it would fail in every other example.

State of Warrior is bad because ANET let people touch it who have no idea what they are doing with warriors.