Guild Wars 2

^^^^ Can say the same thing about Engi…If I wanted to use Rifle could just play engi. Except for Warrior LB is a lot stronger than Ranger LB if you know how to use it.

Here is OP build. You can win 1v1s with just the elite skill. Have fun.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdU2ZXIOeQKagfgC9t3C5gxAYAUmG5OA-TpBFwACuAAy2fYxhAIxRAoaZAAPAAA

“Any idea’s / thoughts are welcomed. Don’t suggest going full zerk, i already got that covered on my ranger.”

• Dont ask for advice and then say but don’t give me good advice. There is a bbig difference in HP and Armor between a zerk ranger and a zerk warrior.

A. U don’t do any condition damage so you dont use condi weapons. Pecices strikes and Condi sigils do not constitute as condi damage when 99% of your dammage is physical. with this build.

B. Warrior and Necros already have the highest Health Pool in the game and you don’t need Vitality.

C. Hammers are bad in PVE because PVE mobs have defiance and cannont be controlled with hard CC.

D. Most PVE mobs dont do enough condition dammage to kill you. You are using holebrak runes I guess they are OK alternative to Str runes but your build doesnt stack any might to take advantage of might duration.

E. If you want to do some condi dammage without being a condi build and have some utility like CC. That use a Long bow. You have a immobilize CC and a blind you also do buringing and bleeding. And you can combo in your own fiefield to stack might. To take advantage of hoel brak runes.

F. Use forceful great sword trait. Since you are using a great sword. And you have hoelbrak runes. To take advantage of might stacking. It should be pretty obvious but I guess its not.

G. Signet master is better than warrior sprint. You have higher DPS up time and higher swiftness up time. You dont need to run faster you have mobility skills with the GS and with forcefull GS trait they cool down faster.

F. Use berserker armor.

G. Use Healing signet bcuz its better than healing surge and if you trait for signets it gives you 40 precision. More DPS better survive.

H. If you want condi removal. Either use Brawlers recovery, or a traited warhorn.

J. Without changing your build.. BTW your choice of gear is not optimal. Sorry I have to say it. I am trying to help you though. I wouldn’t try to re-invent the wheel. I know there is a desire to be differnt but things are the way they are becasue people already tried to be differnt and game is 3 years old. There are good reasons things are the way they are. And just to be differn’t isn’t always a better reason. I will try to help your build though without changing it.

Either do this. And use the sigils I said I makes up for you having Valkyrie gear with low precision.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJEQJARTjMdU5ZfHGewJagfAxcgBNuOaju3A-TBCBwAGV+JRJIgLBQKdBJM/1b/Bdq/E4JAQGA9xA-e

Or somthing like this if you think you need condi removal.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJEQJARTjMdU5ZdH+dwJagfgyYAMAHHhNQ9bkGdPA-TBCBABGp87S1fkQJIAXCgU0Fkg5ve2fIgnAAZA0HDA-e

Warriors getting F2 skill. And daggers. You can use your other burst skill when you have daggers equipped. Giving you 2 burst skills with daggers.

Proto I guess u didn’t know that whirling Axe does reflect projectiles if a thief steals it from a warrior. The code is already there.

Devs at least take a look at Thick Skin this trait is useless. It should be Like 250 extra Armor above 75% HP or something.

I don’t remember hearing anything about it other than like a year ago they were talking about it.

Lots of people bcuz warrior sprint doesn’t work if u have a rifle equipped. And crack shot isn’t a needed trait to begin with its just nice to have.

Remeber most PVP rifle builds put 2 into arms and 6 into 2 other trait lines. Now u can go 0/6/6/0/6

It all sounded like good news to me. My only gripe was leaving the 2 minor tactics traits in place that were pretty useless always except for being a res bot.

Also really disappointed that the 1st minor defense trait think skin received no love since its pretty bad.

without getting defense or vit anymore from traits its going to force u into a min/max build. PVE will still probably be zerker. PVP who knows could be something like knights. WVW could be something like mixing gear to get it optimal and rounded.

Sounds like a wet noodle spec. And you know that ANET will tone it down to force u into clerics amulet or something if u want to to work.

OK so they saying some class will have 5 shouts and another class with have 5 traps.

Warriors will confirmed have 4 shouts with healing surge. So what warrior elite will be a shout. Taunt?

Hey I am on Mag and live in US. I never had these problems before now. 5 things that happen.

1. No skills working. Then activate over 10 seconds later. Or skill keep blinking and don’t go off.

2. Sometimes this follows with disconnected to server.

3. Today for the 1st time ever I was told that my account logged in with some other IP address while playing. This isn’t true the server was just reporting this as a false error. And it was the same time I am having no skills working lag.

4. On reset night. When I enter in EBG soon as it open I am teleported off the map with 60 other players from other servers.

5. My character rubber banding all over and running into walls.

screen shot of teleport bug.
http://s10.postimg.org/wvayci4mf/reset.jpg

briggah.7910:

Large scale zerg fights from reset night AFTER the stability changes..

https://youtu.be/z_fyVmhqMbw

SoR is a T6 server? Those maybe large scale for T6 but they are not large scale to everyone T3 and above. Those groups you are fighting would be considered small size guild groups of 10-15. Or small pug groups. Usually not very good anyways if pugs. In T1 havok size is considered 10 lol.

Large scale are what is considered blobs or multiple guild groups hugging each other. with numbers of 30 on the low end zerg.. 60 on the high end blob.

Rezzet.3614:

camera is fine for me as an engineer i now have to hug the ledges less when using grenades so i can actually counter necro and ele aoe now

Really? I I heard engis can grenade bomb supply depots from outside the keep now sounds legit.

Sorel.4870:

pejot.4806:

Also, there was already soft CC for you to use, stability didn’t protect from immob/chill/cripple.

This is a joke and you know it. On my warrior alone, that I play in zergs with much much skillz.

- Dodged March: -33% incoming immob/chill/cripple duration
- Food: -40% incoming condition duration
- Rune of Melandru: -25% incoming condition duration

Total: -98% incoming immob/chill/cripple duration, passively, permanently. Or are you playing on one of these weird builds “skilled groups” use that are a lot better?

no one focuses warriors in open field. besides that there is a counter to that its called condi duration. What you talk about has already been defeated in the current meta by good groups. Most Necro and ele builds already trait into condi duration, add some condi duration food and it cancels out lemongrass effect.

In GVGs most better guilds run givers sword and warhorn and sigil of malice with toxic sharpening stones to give warriors 40% condi duration to make Immobs stick. Back liners already running condi duration.

Sorel seems like people like you as well as ANET are stuck in 2013 mindstate of thinking. First classes to be focoused in open fields are eles, necros, and pick like thiefs and engis. No one smart bombs or goes after a front line anyways. I dont understand your point at all.

Besides that due to the condi duration meta most of the better warriors are not running melandru or hoelbrak in group play people have been back to using trooper runes now for ahwile.

Yeah Nike thats kinda the point but a sarcastic and exaggerated one.

not true. and no one that knows anything about anything would agree that hammer trains were the current meta. hammer trains is like 2 years ago. the current meta or last meta as we call it GWEN was the counter the the hammer train meta. everyone knows this except the uniformed probably the same people that told anet to do this. It was a balanced front line backline meta not no dumb hammer train.

Its was not a smart idea on the part of anet. There is already a counter to stability. Its called soft cc, and boon striping. Kiting and dodging. The changes were unnecessarily and only hurt the game.

CC is too easily spammable and is to potent as is. Stability didnt need a conterplay there already was one. Its called learning how to play. ANET wants to turn WVW in to a brain dead blob where u just spam aoes and CCs to win with no counter play to it. Other than the one that we already had. Its dumb.

Just because something is new doesn’t mean its good for wvw. Your response is basically a cop out. I mean if now everyone were to drink poisen instead of water your just saying hey its new lets see if the human body can adjust to that lol. I don’t think so.

Than you have your wish.

The stability changes in WvW were very porly thought through. They may work fine in every other game mode.

The camera changes are disastrous for wvw and the use of the camera to manipulate siege. The camera chages also turn every player into a omega golem and no siege or player is safe on a wall.

These 2 changes have ruined the game for right now. Hopefully the Reverent will fix the stab issues in WvW but I highly doubt it because. We have repeatedly told you that blobing is kitten of your game. And the stab changes are another huge hit to smaller group play if the berserker nerf wasnt already enough.

ANET you just killed your game. Becasue you didn’t think at all.

Play better?

1. Play a useful class. Ex. Guard, Warrior, Ele, Necro.

2. Get on TS, Mumble, Vent Ex. Voice coms.

3. Call out your skills, Waters, CC, Etc.

4. Stay tight on commander tag.

5. Do not squirrel after roamers.

6. Listen to the commander, and pay attention.

7. Use your brain if commander throws down some siege it means it needs to be built. A commander shouldn’t have to tell people to build in Chat for anyone to build something.

8. Party up and make decent partys. Don’t bring uplevels.

Failure to do simple things like I listed will cause a commander to rage. These are simple things and doesn’t take a rocket scientist.

Gotta disagree with the low skill ceiling. Its a low skill floor only. High skill ceiling if you want to be good as in beat other players classes who innately mechanically have advantages over you depending on how much they are abusing how broken their class mechanics are or how good they are.

As a warrior has to fight through all of their BS mechanics to win with just using simple brute methods. If you are talking about casual PVE than I think no one that cares, cares. About balance here. Except basically the people that complain about it but usually these people don’t care about balance and just want loot and easy mode. These are also the same people that think warrior is good.

Purple Miku.7032 is right about everything. Maths have been done to prove everything this person says. Its the difference between maths and opinions.

Well warrior is supposed to have sustain or as anet say a sturdy body as a way to overcome its weaknesses. The problem comes when other professions can be just as sturdy or in some cases be more sturdy than warriors without having as much of a damage sacrifice for doing so.

Where as in the past warrior didn’t have to give up much Dammage when going high sustain. The problem with nerfing warriors damage in the varios ways like making some traits not accessible when building tanky. As well as indirect nerfs to traits like forceful GS. To flat out nerfs of traits and nerfs to weapon skills.

Warrior then becomes high sustain but wet noodle. If you want to build the warrior glassy then you are still negatively effected by dammage nerfs and since you have to sacrifice your sustain to do this. Than this puts warriors at a disadvantage in the DPS and sustain categorys.

So you can make the case that this makes warriors balanced now. However you can also make the case that where warrior was prevented from having high sustain and damage, other classes are not being held to that standard and thus warriors are weak.

you guys argue over stuff that no one cares about were here to talk about how warrior is balanced and other classes are not balanced thus warrior isnt balanced.

It’s a reasonable argument to make that warrior is fine. But if we say other classes are not fine. Than we can say that warriors are weak in comparison.

Idealy every class will have its advantages and disadvantages but be able to over come those. When we look at warriors its advantages are easy to see its disadvantages are not easy to see at low level or low understanding of the game.

When we look at ways to overcome disadvantages for warriors while they have many ways to overcome those they are disadvantaged here in ways that other professions are able to overcome their disadvantages.

And thus if we are just looking at warriors and everything else out of the box its fine its not until u get into higher game play it becomes p clear.

Its not till u start doing math and examining skills vs skills, and game mechanics till u see what is really going on here if you are just casual than u will never know.

ANET trys to say that they never intended WvW to have any balance as a defense to every aspect of it being broken. And also as a cop out to have not done anything to fix it.

People always complain about everything about it all of the time. Why do you think we are still complaining? Is it because for no reason? NO.

Will ANET ever MAN up and concede probably not.

I like the ideas being proposed in this thread so far.

One of the best ideas thus far is to base the number of maps in a rotation on the number of players.

This idea while a good one will not work the way WvW is currently implemented. The change would be to remove the borderland maps. And replace them with more maps like EB.

Then like in PVE where a map population drops the players would be moved to another map. And that map would get removed.

Other suggestions.

Were merging or removing servers. Which has been discussed many times. While people were not for this, they were for some sort of alliance system. Where alliances would battle each other as opposed to actual servers.

In response to others who commented that we had asked for these things.
We never asked for EOTM we asked for another map, we got EOTM instead. EOTM was a good year late and serves as a solution to a problem that no longer existed by the time of its release.

We never asked for siege disablers. We asked for balance matchups. We got siege disables instead and it was later that proponents of them created a story that they were intended for unpopulated servers to use as a way to combat coverage imbalances but these people always leave out the fact that everyone can use them.

We never asked for Siege mastery’s, we asked for a rank up system. And we asked for siege to be nerfed not buffed in many cases.

I’d like to see some of the shield traits consolidated.

GS has might on crit so it doesn’t seem too far off from what warriors should be capable of.

So in other words

New trait is mighty defenses + Shield master and its just called shield master.

Shield stun is now 2 seconds.

Shields now give 150 armor instead of 90.

DWA and dual wielding now also apply bonus to shield and warhorn.

People are going to stack where ever but there needs to be a counter measure to player stacking on servers.

Stacking only gets worst and worst because players feel like they need to stack in order to keep up with player attrition.

A player attrition caused by the neglect of your game. All people want are balanced matchups. Thats it. No one asked for siege mastery, siege disablers, eotm, none of it. All of these things while yes adding to the game address none of the problems and some cases you anet you make things worst.

We don’t understand why you don’t know this and fix it.

It’s most likely to be spear.

Other professions get buffs we get fixes 2 years late.

no difference, this skill is still worst than the original arcing slice.

I had a chance to sit down and talk with Rytlock during my time in the mists. He said he got tired of ANET nerfing warriors and decided to switch.

When I asked him to elaborate on what he meant by nerfing warriors. He just said that ANET threw them under the bus and he got tired of it because he does no damage now.

Rytlock went on to talk about how the Blood Legion has lost a lot of their warriors over the last 9 months to the Iron Legion. It appears they all changed class to Engineer.

Finally Rytlock said that ANET doesn’t know how to balance their own game and that if he hadn’t of learned how to play Reverent that he was going to quit the game.

RIP warrior. Unless ANET want to get serious about warriors and stop throwing us under the bus and blaming us for other players getting beat by us when they lack any skill than warrior is ded profession.

with any luck anet will unveil a new soldier profession and everyone can just quit playing warriors since anet is so content on throwing them under the bus.

Honestly not trying to be rude I assume that your not that great on warrior if you were asking us. My advice before trying to make up your own builds. Is visit metabattle website and get familiar playing all of the warrior meta builds 1st. Why because there is builds on there that already do what you are asking. And they wouldn’t be on there for no reason since they already work.

Not saying I am opposed to helping you I just don’t feel like its the kind of help you need.

Shadelang.3012:

official…you…do know the nerf will hit there condi damage as well right?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Might

Condi damage benefits more from duration than it does from might. Condis scale with might but they scale pretty poorly compared to physical damage.

For condis except for burning, and poison. Their dmg is scaled by haw many stacks are applied more than how much dmg each stack does. Duration of those stacks is whats going to prevent those stacks from falling off and allow more stacks to be applied.

We told anet the reason the game isn’t balanced is becasue of runes and condis. These new runes off longer durations of condis and might. They chose not to listen. It is what it is.

Right and definitive answer.

You should swap and apply vulnerability w/ axe mace and use sigil of battle on that set bcuz that increases your groups dmg by 14% every time u do that. If ur group can maintain 25 stacks of vuln without u needing to do that than u should just camp GS.

If you are debating which one of these builds you should play your doing it wrong. You should be debating “when” should I run each build and why.

WHen it comes to warrior roaming there is no meta why? Becoz u need to specialize or adjust ur build to deal with enemys and group members. And in small roaming groups its about what is the group lacking? And how can u change ur build to fill in those gaps.

Um rangers don’t need to be zerk to win. The current Ranger PVP meta isn’t zerk. Its all about the Condi Trap/survival ranger. Or spirit ranger.

Its true warriors have something called a shield which is supposedly a weapon that only they can wield effectively. Except an engineer shield is way better than a warrior one. Not only does a warrior have to pick up 3 traits total to spec fully into shields or just 1 for a reflect. But an engineer not only doesn’t have to trait but his coold downs are twice as fast. lol

Now granted Engi is a medium armor class except the warrior who should have more sustain than an engi has infact less sustain than a cele engi in the current meta.

Even Zerk rangers are not totally defenseless since they have stances now. How about how a rangers endure pain lasts longer than even a traited warrior endure pain. lol Most rangers I know that use LB also use GS which has a block too.

What happened to that video that GW Fox made of wrecking every single warrior he fought before ranger ever received any buffs.

Ya I remember that too like how later on it was discovered that my maths was right. lol And like later on how it was proven that GS Axe/Mace with proper rotations was better than pure axe /w DWA at the time which is what I was saying all along. I’ll never forget how people on this forum are when they start agreeing with stuff without personally investigating things. I then remember NIKE saying later that I come to the right conclusions for the wrong reasons but whatever.

Just to make things clear no where in this thread did I say rifle needed range buffed. I simply am making the case that the mechnics or rifle are hard limited and the range is exactly what the tool tip says. Where as Rangers its not the case.

As has been said many times warriors seem to be held to a standard that other professions are not held to. When u want to talk about balance Rifle is a v balanced weapon. If you compare that to Longbow, Longbow is not a very balanced weapon because mechanically it is not only broken bcoz of how much further it shoots than it is supposed to shoot. But also how it can be abused where there is no way to abuse a rifle this way.

It is true that warrior can be balanced however if other classes are not held to the same standards as warriors then they are not balanced. thanks.

I dont really care if a necro or ele can close a gap on a ranger. Just because you have ranged doesn’t mean you should be able to kite another ranged profession. Its a pretty ridiculous argument.

When I make claims like rangers are over buffed I am also including things like trapper runes. When rangers where never intended to be a stealth class. There are losts of little things like this.

At no point did did Prysin prove our respond to my argument that the range is too long. I never mentioned anything about rangers damage. That was an invention of his own. Look if you guys want to go against me your going to lose because I am being intentionally vauge for a reason.

yup I agree and pryin I have to disagree with you on how well balanced the maximum non official range is of longbow with eagle eye. As its been reported numerous times to be very far beyond 1500. It has been tested to go as far as 2100 range with using sick em as a measuring stick.

While ranger isn’t unique in abusing this mechanic as some other class ranged skills can surpass their tool tips. None are a groosly broken in the amount of range than exceed.

So Pryan you are wrong sorry.

Rifle wasn’t a bad weapon before rangers were overly buffed. Riffle warrior was almost better than ranger then.

I welcome the changes anet is proposing to rifle so far. I am not sure warriors should have comparable range as rangers.

I do think rangers should have the range toned down a bit though. I have been hit from as far as 2000 range from a ranger because the arching arrow mechanics. This to me a very broken and needs fixed.

Sorry if this sounds like a complaint.

I feel that warrior is truly balanced now. Problem is other professions are not held to the same standard that ANET has placed on warriors. I know its beating a dead horse here but I just feel like I need to vent.

Yes other professions have seen plenty of nerfs or buffs and while I believe warrior is in a good place now. Other professions are still broken and not in good places at all except for guardians.

Doesn’t seem fair at all the almost insurmountably redic advantages some other classes with their broken builds have over warriors now to think ANET actually thinks they balanced the game.

Theres no reason a good warrior should need to use melandru runes. They offer toughness but no warrior should need over 3k armor and 2.8k armor is plenty.

You can go higher than 3k armor but if you say that there is no noticeable DPS drops or that your DPS is fantastic when pushing over the 2.8k armor boundary into 3k you are already making sacrifices in DPS to say going past 3k into 3.1 and higher that your DPS is not different or even great is mistaken. At the cost of not significantly more survivability. Since your survivability should be coming from dodging, stances, and mobility and mostly damage by applying pressure to keep the opponent on the defensive.

T1 is a PPT centric ktrain tier. Almost all of the fighting guilds and players that care about getting gud left T1 and transferred to T2. All that is left is blobs of players that want to ppt objectives. Bcoz T1 doesn’t facilitate and environment for guild groups to fight, gvg, or roam. Bcoz all anyone in T1 cares about it PPT and using blobs and siege to collect bags. Even the “roamers” blob and run around in what is considered havok squads by ever one else.

If you transferred to T1 expecting fights you will be sadly disappointed there are no more than 6-7 fighting guilds left in T1 and at least half of them are on TC. All of the other fighting guilds left to go to T2.

The only positive thing I can say about T1 is that there is roaming at almost all times of the day. And generally you can find other enemys in wvw 24/7. That is not to say they are interested in fighting you. Chances they care more about that PPT. And if they do fight you chances are it wont be without help of some kind.

In T1 these servers generally want to just push enemys off the map so they can own everything. They in most cases will not even fight you unless you are defending or attacking a PPT objective. It has turned into a pretty terrible tier.

2 years ago T1 was pretty decent. But now its not.

Issue isn’t eles. Issue is 3 things but not specific to eles.

Condis are not balanced. Nuff said.

Runes are not balanced. It makes Condis even more unbalanced than just not balanced. And makes Boon durations too long. Higher damage modifiers than before.

Some runes like preplexity not permitted in SPVP since so broken but just as an example of how broken some runes are.

Warriors nerfed badly into the ground. What classes now counter ele, engi necro? None? People complained so much about healing signet this that and what we have now is 100% worst than how warriors were.

Use ranged weapon, carry lots of cleanses and stun breaks. energy sigils.