Guild Wars 2

Pinkus.2860:

Huh. People still care about the WvW result? Someone call me when there’s actually a reason to win

SoR has never cared about winning. We just like to have fun. I mean we don’t like to be destroyed no one does, but we’ve never been all about winning. I hope it stays that way honestly. All our server has evr strives for are balanced fights that it.

Ya i was running FOTM “Dungeon” no flavor of the month guys. With some DB guys. And they were all enthusiastic about sieging SoR. And they were like ya cant wait to fight you guys its going to be good. And I was like Thats not going to happen unless BG or JQ drops a Teir. Cuz if we dropped a teir at the time then they would of moved up. Anyways.

Back to what I was saying I dont understand what the point of this whole thing they did was. If thats what they were trying to accomplish it sames kinda misguided.

MagiKarp.8201:

Warlord.9074:

Chuck Norris.4527:

Thank you for all these bags… I hope you guys keep em coming!

Oh and don’t forget to bring your JQ friends with yah (vice versa). Was awesome at Hills! Lol

your welcome blobgate.

Really?

no.

Chuck Norris.4527:

Thank you for all these bags… I hope you guys keep em coming!

Oh and don’t forget to bring your JQ friends with yah (vice versa). Was awesome at Hills! Lol

your welcome blobgate.

Israel.7056:

Zen.8497:

The reality is that you got outplayed with lesser numbers so far this week

I understand that you think this and it’s only natural that someone in your positon would think so and you might be right. But it’s also entirely possible that a lot more SoR turned up for WvW this week than did BG or JQ.

We can’t really be sure either way because all we have to go on is “very high” and “full.”

The very high and full just means overall server pop it has nothing to do with wvw pop. BG and JQ your servers are more saturated than SoRs. That has nothing to do with wvw.

A lot of pugs are not in wvw right now on all sides, I think it would be a safer assumption that BGs militia is comprised of more pugs than SoRs. Same on JQ to a lesser degree since its been reported thata couple major WvW guilds are either on a hiatus or left. SoR is by no means fielding as many players as normal. I was called into wvw while doing PVE like probably a lot of others becasue we were losing our garrison in EB or somthing and no one was there allegedly at the time. This was during NA primetime.

Ozzrel.9825:

Rabid doesn’t mix well with other sets since you will lose a big chunk of power with it.

then be squishy and worst off than a zerker 100b warrior idc. be a squishy crappy condition build that gets owned. and does bad damage. there is ur build for you.

Ozzrel.9825:

Netu.2671:

Thanks for all the advice! I really appreciate it. I’m currently running three different rune sets, two of each, to achieve +45% bleed duration. Then I’m using condition damage food. If I could find something to make my burns better, that’d be cool, too.

Does anyone know, or know how I could figure out, the specifics for which stat points I want/need? E.g. should I do three pieces of carrion, three of berzerker, or something

You could use condition duration food and use condition damage runes. Should net you more condition damage at cost of some precision.
As for gear… I played with my spreadsheet a little, and rampager with ruby jewels in trinkets seems to be the best choice, but the difference between that and carrion isn’t that big. Rabid is really close too, but having 100% bleed duration is an absolute must for it.

You could try rapid gear with undead runes. This would give you good defense and condition damage. Then use zerker trinkets for higher bases damage.

There is a zerging build that is kinda fun. Its not viable for 1v1 or small group play.

It revolves around using the F1 skill on the bow then leaping into the fire field that you cast on the zerg with a sword which gives u fire shield, then spinning with the axe to shoot flames or whatever aoe fields are in the area at the zerg around you then then escaping.

Basically you trait last stand and spiked armor in defense. So you dont get knocked down in the zerg or u cast balanced stance before you leap. Then when they attack you it hurts them cuz you have fire shield on and retaliation. Plus you are shooting flames while spinning. Then you disengage.

So this is how the combo goes. F1 bow into zerg. Cast stability, now leap into the fire field, cast frenzy, now spin, then disengage, rinse and repeat it can really do massive damage if played right. and mass bags.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAT8XjcO9uxQuQMxBE0DNMLEQ1j2wOijUhyA-TsAAzCpIaS1krJTTymsNNEYJyWAA

leveling in dungeons isn’t the fastest way to level.

Orion.9075:

scootshoot.6583:

hplee.2839:

score update, end of SEA (taipei time 1:44 am)

SoR pretty much neutralize JQ’s SEA advantage.

Least for one day. Still early in the week.

What every server benefits from (assuming the score favors them) is the usual PVE players which there are a ton more of will join the fray thereby helping with coverage. SOR am sure has quite a bit of pve people who typically don’t wvw being active participants this week and that is a good thing.

Don’t get why SoR has more PVE players participating this week than any other server… that makes no sense.

I don’t think he means it that way. He means to say SoR has a very casual WvW pop. I don’t know how it is on other servers. These are not exclusively PVE players. They are players that do both PVE and PVP, and when there are events going on you wont find them in WvW they rater run event dungeons all day long, or do other PVE kinda stuff. Then they go into WvW. Right now with no Event dungeon or quests to do these people come into wvw.

I’m sure that is the case on other servers to a lesser degree than SoR cuz like i said there’s a very casual wvw atmosphere on the server.

Gellor.6497:

Warlord.9074:

Gellor.6497:

Warlord.9074:

I mean I can understand wanting a more balanced WvW its not fun to win all of the time, or have big ques and not be able to play. But I am sad to see if JQ becomes the next victim. If you guys can just hold it together we would have a really balanced T1 now that BG is stepping up their game and using some better tactics and SoR got some guilds that are not NA.

It just seems kinda strange to me to go to Dragonbrand. Dragonbrand was my server at the begining of the game. It was doing pretty good in T2 then we lost one time and the whole thing fell apart and everyone left. The only reason DB is in T2 now is its becasme the next bandwagon server. I hate to use this term becasue it has a negative sense to it. And I’m not saying that is bad, But I’m saying that somtimes these servers are fundamentally unstable. And when somthing bad happens like some big drama goes down and people start to xfer off everyone starts to xfer in the same maner they got there in the 1st place.

So yeah I dont understand this neew plan lets move to DB just so we can get back to T1 where we already were in the 1st place. But probably be facerolled by BG or something. Instead of staying where we are and kicking BGs kitten I dont get it.

Actually DB moved into T2 without transfers….. With transfers we are doing better than we thought.

We both know that no server gets to T2 or even T1 naturally. Especially this late in the game. After having dropped to T5 do to almost all of the major WvW guilds leaving the server. I was on DB with TSyM and many other guilds. DB had no oceanic coverage at all. So our main WvW core transferred to SoS at the time becasue SoS was I think a T4 server with great ocianioc coverage. MY guild at that time xfered to SoR. After that happened DB dropped all the way to to T5. You dont go from T5 to T2 this late in the game without xfers it doesnt happen.

The only guilds that transfered in when we were in T6 (actually) was BP,Krew,TG and krew has since left. I"m not sure when NNK came but it was right after TSYM left but I do apologize since I forgot BP and TG weren’t always on DB

I’m not trying to say you guys are bad at all. I think its great you guys are doing better now. I’m just saying from my perspective after having witnessed DBs demise and being there when that happened. Most peoples left the server becasue we couldn’t even fill a single borderland with enough people to even hold a single keep. let alone 4. The server was a big PVE server and we couldnt even get the PVE players into wvw to try and make up for such a loss.

Edit: Comparison It would be like HOD now coming back from the grave and is almost in T1 again. And saying HOD didnt make it to T2 without transfers.

Gellor.6497:

Warlord.9074:

I mean I can understand wanting a more balanced WvW its not fun to win all of the time, or have big ques and not be able to play. But I am sad to see if JQ becomes the next victim. If you guys can just hold it together we would have a really balanced T1 now that BG is stepping up their game and using some better tactics and SoR got some guilds that are not NA.

It just seems kinda strange to me to go to Dragonbrand. Dragonbrand was my server at the begining of the game. It was doing pretty good in T2 then we lost one time and the whole thing fell apart and everyone left. The only reason DB is in T2 now is its becasme the next bandwagon server. I hate to use this term becasue it has a negative sense to it. And I’m not saying that is bad, But I’m saying that somtimes these servers are fundamentally unstable. And when somthing bad happens like some big drama goes down and people start to xfer off everyone starts to xfer in the same maner they got there in the 1st place.

So yeah I dont understand this neew plan lets move to DB just so we can get back to T1 where we already were in the 1st place. But probably be facerolled by BG or something. Instead of staying where we are and kicking BGs kitten I dont get it.

Actually DB moved into T2 without transfers….. With transfers we are doing better than we thought.

We both know that no server gets to T2 or even T1 naturally. Especially this late in the game. After having dropped to T5 do to almost all of the major WvW guilds leaving the server. I was on DB with TSyM and many other guilds. DB had no oceanic coverage at all. So our main WvW core transferred to SoS at the time becasue SoS was I think a T4 server with great ocianioc coverage. MY guild at that time xfered to SoR. After that happened DB dropped all the way to to T5. You dont go from T5 to T2 this late in the game without xfers it doesnt happen.

I mean I can understand wanting a more balanced WvW its not fun to win all of the time, or have big ques and not be able to play. But I am sad to see if JQ becomes the next victim. If you guys can just hold it together we would have a really balanced T1 now that BG is stepping up their game and using some better tactics and SoR got some guilds that are not NA.

It just seems kinda strange to me to go to Dragonbrand. Dragonbrand was my server at the begining of the game. It was doing pretty good in T2 then we lost one time and the whole thing fell apart and everyone left. The only reason DB is in T2 now is its becasme the next bandwagon server. I hate to use this term becasue it has a negative sense to it. And I’m not saying that is bad, But I’m saying that somtimes these servers are fundamentally unstable. And when somthing bad happens like some big drama goes down and people start to xfer off everyone starts to xfer in the same maner they got there in the 1st place.

So yeah I dont understand this neew plan lets move to DB just so we can get back to T1 where we already were in the 1st place. But probably be facerolled by BG or something. Instead of staying where we are and kicking BGs kitten I dont get it.

JohnCray.9675:

Aarean.5398:

Why are guilds leaving or in rumor of leaving jq. Theres no balance issue anymore. Jq is the weakest of t1 and any guild leaving it is just avoiding losing. Anyone else not seeing the score trend?

There are other reasons why a guild may decide to change environments. Perhaps their relationship with other guilds has soured? Is it possible that they feel their efforts are unappreciated – or even punished – by others in their community?

I’ve enough knowledge of what’s going on to infer what’s going to happen next, but since a lot of things are still up in the air I’ll wait for Ultima Hyperion (OMEN’s guild leader) to make the call.

Just my opinion from an outsiders perspective. JQ became so stacked in an effort to deal with SoS. Then more players just kept coming. SoS died and JQ became the the best. Players still Just kept coming. Welcome to super stacked server that has no meaning anymore now SoS is defeated.

Introduce Stagnant WvW matchup, people are getting tired of the same matchups, people also getting tired of winning without even having to try anymore. Now comes the guild drama with some core wvw guilds and they were already getting sick and tired of current situations and just decide to move on. Now that happened.

Massive bandwagoneers have no purpose anymore and nothing to hold them together so decided to find something new cuz they aree also tired of the same old thng.

covenn.7165:

Warlord.9074:

ya a blob is so many numbers you can’t count them thats why its a blob. 25 is a zerg tactics aside.

No, this is incorrect.

Blob is simply consolidating all your forces into a single unit. Instead of having squads and so forth. Thats blobing. A Blob In T1 is like every pug you have on the map running together just trying to brute force somthing. Thats a blob. And in T1 thats often like 100 players or something. More players than Culling will render.

Morphman.6312:

Fuzzion.2504:

A blob is usually hard to exact a number as their main strategy is to run a Melee train on the player steam rolling anything that crosses their path. It can be done with as low as 8 players but usally around 25 players.

Hmmmm, I would say a blob is used to describe a whole load of WvW guilds bunching together +pugs and causing so much lag that it is impossible to fire off any skills…

That’s what it was on EU anyway

ya a blob is so many numbers you can’t count them thats why its a blob. 25 is a zerg tactics aside.

weak point of warriors, simply is useless minor traits, expensive trait line investment to get anything good. Scattered Traits. Meaning to build an effective build means to having to spec more than 2 or three trait lines, in which you run out of points trying to get there. On my warrior often times I need to spec 4-5 trait lines just to come up with something versatile and then run out of points before I can get anything really good.

Knowing that at least half of those points were wasted on stats and minor traits i didn’t need to begin with that no one needs at all.

This is what kitten me off so bad about ANet adding 30 point skills that are supposed to help us. it just exacerbated this problem.

I didn’t read the whole thread. I see chest thumping, crying, excuses, trolling, accusations, hypocrisy and blame shifting etc list goes on. Soon as I see this I just want to stop reading. Play nicely all less QQ moar pew pew as the saying goes.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Warlord.9074:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Jahn.7019:

Tarkus.4109:

Zeres.8713:

Tarkus.4109:

Thanks for the fights IRON/HIRE/NYS, tbh we kinda did see the IRON tag and follow you around the map because I wanted to push you so you would push back. Nice to see IRON is pretty solid on open field, I just hope that they play more independently as opposed to the current SoR Meta of blobing it up in oceanic (I know it wasn’t your primetime) and disregarding all other maps. Regardless, its good to see a fresh face to the tier, and welcome to tier 1 NA.

Dear Tarkus, please stop making things up about SoR’s oceanic forces. If you wish to keep up this nonsense, let us do a guild verse guild that I have asked for many times.

Sincerely,
HIRE

Yep that full map zerg that you have to bait and switch every night is actually a large group of mesmers right? Nah, and we’ll never GvG HIRE as there generally needs to be a tad of respect there to do so – and we’ve received nothing but trash from your guild and we’d prefer to play WvW.

We’d only GvG if there was an organized and balanced GvG mode in the game, there are a couple of guilds I wouldn’t mind doing it with (IRON, NYS, SF, FOO, ATM etc) but HIRE is not self sufficient as you need another force to do anything (ala. can only fight when outnumbering enemies and running to towers when numbers are equal) so I don’t see why you’re in a situation to try and make demands.

Anyway, I don’t speak for the guild on a large level as I am only one of the few commanders in the guild and only comment upon what I see ingame. You can keep your delusional crap to yourself.

Why do guilds make so many excuses to avoid GvGing?

Cause WvW isn’t the place to GvG when you are wanting to help your server win?

Unsure for guilds who just wanna bash the kitten out of one another though…

Who cares about winning, its all about having fun. If you win than that is a bonus. If you lose nothing happens, If you win nothing happens and you will still be fighting the same 2 servers forever.

I care about winning. I need that 2k HP bonus for PvE.

Cool story bro.

CuddleStrike.8215:

Jahn.7019:

Tarkus.4109:

Zeres.8713:

Tarkus.4109:

Thanks for the fights IRON/HIRE/NYS, tbh we kinda did see the IRON tag and follow you around the map because I wanted to push you so you would push back. Nice to see IRON is pretty solid on open field, I just hope that they play more independently as opposed to the current SoR Meta of blobing it up in oceanic (I know it wasn’t your primetime) and disregarding all other maps. Regardless, its good to see a fresh face to the tier, and welcome to tier 1 NA.

Dear Tarkus, please stop making things up about SoR’s oceanic forces. If you wish to keep up this nonsense, let us do a guild verse guild that I have asked for many times.

Sincerely,
HIRE

Yep that full map zerg that you have to bait and switch every night is actually a large group of mesmers right? Nah, and we’ll never GvG HIRE as there generally needs to be a tad of respect there to do so – and we’ve received nothing but trash from your guild and we’d prefer to play WvW.

We’d only GvG if there was an organized and balanced GvG mode in the game, there are a couple of guilds I wouldn’t mind doing it with (IRON, NYS, SF, FOO, ATM etc) but HIRE is not self sufficient as you need another force to do anything (ala. can only fight when outnumbering enemies and running to towers when numbers are equal) so I don’t see why you’re in a situation to try and make demands.

Anyway, I don’t speak for the guild on a large level as I am only one of the few commanders in the guild and only comment upon what I see ingame. You can keep your delusional crap to yourself.

Why do guilds make so many excuses to avoid GvGing?

Cause WvW isn’t the place to GvG when you are wanting to help your server win?

Unsure for guilds who just wanna bash the kitten out of one another though…

Who cares about winning, its all about having fun. If you win than that is a bonus. If you lose nothing happens, If you win nothing happens and you will still be fighting the same 2 servers forever.

Ya thats how I read it too but I didn’t want to say that it was excuses but thats how I read it.

Tarkus.4109:

kittenolololol etc. tec.

+1

Jet.4795:

JQ imploded? No think again ppt isnt everything I think alot of people can agree with me there.

Ya JQ could implode 100 Times, and still have reserves we have never seen yet.

Vitality is not very useful for warriors. Vitality as a main stat is fundamentally weak on warriors. I think on some professions with such a low base Vitality that it can be benifitial at increasing their survival exponentially however on a warrior adding more vitality to your already massive HP pool isnt going to increase your survival as much as adding Toughness. SO knights armor is superior in the case of the warrior..

The Karma PVT gear in ore also is probably better than this stuff on a warrior where its main stat is power.

Aneirin Cadwall.9126:

I can 1v1 a thief… until the point where they are losing and begin to endlessly stealth. They then run away, return 12 seconds later with full health, and have effectively reset the fight at their convenience.

Nevermind all the mobility they have over certain professions (Heartseeker, Infiltrator’s Arrow and +Movement Speed, for example).

This.

Oprah.1347:

you call everyone on the server you just transferred to ‘baddies’

If I call you a baddie will it upset you? How upset will you be?

Ya man I wouldn’t worry about it. Since We SoR have been fighting BG. Which has been months and months if we include the T2 match ups. There have been so many other on BG to make troll posts, I can’t be more specific than that but just know your not alone in your trolling. I’m not sure what you said but I think it would be difficult to top some of the troll post that have came before yours.

Not sure what is worst. This thread, or the troll post I never saw. Why don’t you guys just go outside. Is this your life? sad.

morrolan.9608:

Julie Yann.5379:

I don’t really care about DR, I don’t have an attention span long enough to hit it. Loot tables are kittening kitten in this game, 1 of the worst I ever seen. I have limited time to play and want to maximize my gains in that time. I don’t care for the legendary, I think most of them are fugly and I will not spend years trying to put one together. The end game for me is making money and mats to try new gear and builds on all my alts and playing WvW which is a huge gold sink. With Anet nerfing all the good money making spots they are effectively killing the end game for me and a lot of players like me and I find myself playing less and less and wanting to play less. They advertised playing the game the way you want and be able to get anything you want by doing so which is a kittening lie. It’s down to the mega events and temples and farm CoF1. Anything else is a waste of time cause you aren’t getting rewarded for it. WvW players can’t just play WvW if they wanted to cause you inevitably spend more money then you can make unless all you do is zerg, never upgrade anything and never build any siege. Anet really needs to review the rewards system in GW2.

As someone who mainly WvWs this is 100% spot on

Pretty much this. also

As somone who has 1000% world completion, ANET is telling me I don’t want you to farm I want you to do the same things you have doe already. This is redundant. ANET is like go do quest, and stuff you have alreay done….. for 1s thats going to help you get the millions of gold you need to make a legendary. Whatever guys you need to get your head out of you know where. Farming is what drives the economy without farmers prices will continue to skyrocket or mats and things people need. IDK where u think mats come from. They dont come from casual players who log in for an hour and play a quest.

Fenrir.3609:

Warlord.9074 – When you go zerker you are trading basically a few crit power for a ton of defense.

Are you? The difference between knights and zerkers is not going to make much difference at all against high end spike damage. It will make a difference if you are getting mashed by adds but if you are getting mashed by adds then you are going down without support anyway.

I suppose it really depends on the group.

For warriors it does make a difference actually. Warrior having the highest base stats, and wearing heavy armor. Adding toughness and defense traits, brings a warriors armor up high enough they can mitigate quite a bit of damage. With our High HP pools that means If you get hit you will not die. If there is enough party healing going on with enough toughness warrior can face tank in dungeons no problem. This isnt the case with zerkers.

Yes there are some dungeon mobs whos spike damage is very high, and even with 3k armor there is no way you can survive without dodging and kiting. But again if you get hit your not going to go down. With a zerker you are certainly going to take a dirt nap. And this helps the party how?

JJBigs.8456:

sinzer.4018:

Warlord.9074:

If I would of know you were going to buy a set of zerker gear for running dungeons I would of advised against this. Most peoples on here would of told you to get knights armor instead. Knights Armor + Ruby Orbs is the magic build lol.

Pretty much this. Ive tried going full zerker before but i sometimes make little mistakes and i don’t like getting downed for it. An MF run the other day with a full zerker warrior and myself in the party made me committed to advising people to not go full zerker. Spending half the encounters on the ground isn’t worth it imo. Most people just won’t be good enough to mitigate enough dmg through other means for zerker to be worthwhile.

Zerks only die when the party doesnt have enough total DPS. let me guess, party was filled with non zerks like yourself. No wonder the zerker dies. Clearly your not a warrior, but posting in warrior forums. Theres a reason COF runs are with zerkers only, and not with your kind. because zerks good with zerks. it doesnt go zerks good with bunkers. Why? Bunker is selfish and cant heal for anything, yet they claim they help team (obviously not if people die).

Your talking about very specific party builds in very specific dungeons and very specifics paths. Okay that may work in that very specific case. I can tell you that doesn’t work elswhere. It especially doest work when the party isn’t made up of hand selected warriors and other classes. It doesn’t particularly work well in WvW. It doesn’t work well in other dungeons and other paths.

The best kind of builds for warriors are minmax builds. Its been said and discussed many times on here and else where. There is absolutely no difference between knights and Zerker in precision. Both sets have the exactly chance to crit. The power difference is very small.

When you go zerker you are trading basically a few crit power for a ton of defense. Crit power is a lot easyer obtained from accessory or runes than from armor. A few peices of zerker armor gloves for example give waht 2 crit power? A Ascended ring gives like what 8? A build with knights armor and zerker accessory is superior to a full zerker warrior all day long.

Anytime ANET sees something that they think is too good. They nerfed it so bad that that its no longer even adequate or good enough.

It killing the game. You guys ANET let me make a comparison for you. you don’t need to shoot something 50 times to kill it in real life, it only takes one bullet. In game you dont need to nerf something so bad it becomes worthless.

Let me tell you what is going to happen if you keep this behavior up. You have already lost most of your PVP population. What was left of it consolidated on your top servers and even that is starting to dwindle.

The only real people you have left are PVE and RPG people, who like all the cutesy stuff and like to farm and do PVE. keep destroying farming all those PVE people will quit too. Then you will have no one.

If I would of know you were going to buy a set of zerker gear for running dungeons I would of advised against this. Most peoples on here would of told you to get knights armor instead. Knights Armor + Ruby Orbs is the magic build lol.

But in all honesty running dungeons isnt about how much DMG you can do on your warrior when your on the ground all of the time becasue your defense is now less than an elementalist in decent armor with less sustain than them too. Its not a good combination for runing dungeons. Get your self to 20+ FOTM and try that set up you wont last that long, if you don’t have someone to tank for you lol.

I’m not really trying to troll you I’m just saying gotta use some common sense. Its not all about OMG I do 30,000 dmg with hundred blades Its about staying alive and supporting the party. As a warrior your job really is to Off tank most of the time or tank when there is no guardian.

I realize you are now attempting to balance it out But let me tell you the defense the solder runes will make up for and even the adition healing and single condition removal itsnt really enough to make up fo having very little armor where mobs can down you in 2 hits without some decent armor.

Ruby orbs are better. And offer more of the stats warriors need to do damage with than Divinity runes for example. Ruby Orbs > Divinity Runes. As For the taklk of might Duration. NO one cares about that when there is Boon Duration. Boon Duration > Might Duration. If you just want DPS Ruby Orbs.

I used to run a Min/max with knights armor and ruby orbs It was great. But now im using malandru runes. My damage is a lot lower now. But my survivability in WVW increased by a lot.

Right now though Soldier Runes are still probably the best for runing dungeons that have lots of conditions. But malandru + lemongrass + Dogged March > Mobile Strikes > soldier runes in WvW right now.

ya it is broken. Its always been bugy but now its even worst. Thats why ive stopped using the trait. a lot of times bwhen it was working it wouldn’t activate, then when it did you would get shut down while in movement. Now it doesn’t fire.

And ANET if you read this please no more 30 point traits that don’t make warriors viable. Especially when they have to trade damage for something that doesn’t make up for the loss. If your going to help them do somthing with the minor traits. Escially the ones like u revive people 10% faster no one needs that is junk.

As far as I’m aware healing doesn’t work that way in this game. Healing does not have threat modifiers. The threat modifiers in this game are not based of of hate. They are internal to the mobs coding. Some mobs go after ranged classes. Becasue they are coded that way for whatever the reason they will attack the farthest away players. Other Factors include proximity to the mob. Generally the closest player to the mob it will attack that player. Has nothing to do with hate on healing. Other threat modifiers are simple what player has the highest armor. The mob will go after what has the highest overall toughness and armor regardless if that player can tank or not. The other threat modifiers are damage based. From my experience the most comon threat modifiers are proximity and armor. But If somone in the party is doing a lot of damage the mob can turn on them and since there are no threat modifiers to warriors skills you wont be able to grab aggro back untill that players runs away or stops attacking.

So this whole notion you have about what a warrior is designed to do and what it can or cannot do needs some explaining. Warrior mainly doesn’t have the healing to take sustained damage thats one thing. You can just face tank Bosses. like that If you make a mistake and run out of heals to negate damage you end up having to disengage thus you lose the aggro. That is what makes guardians superior becasue of all the heals they have and protection.

Edit: In most cases throughout this game there is no need for tanking or what people consider tanking. A lot of mobs in this game are intended to be ranged and kited, while dodging to negate damage. These are not things you want to melee or face tank you will get destroyed.

Not to troll, but since when can rouges or Robe classes tank? Especially without a dedicated healer class healing them. I realize you all thought that becasue ANET said there was no dedicated roles in this game and that any profession can fill any roll that you ate that up and believed it.

The truth in the matter that the only profession missing from the holy trinity is a dedicated healer. There are heavy armor classes designed for taking damage, and doing melee combat, and there are Robes that ideally do ranged attacks. Then there is a bunch of rouge/hunter variants. All that is good and Fine but without dedicated healers Rouges shouldn’t be trying to tank at all. Now I know a lot of thiefs out there want to go full glass cannon builds becasue the whole premise is you have low HP and defense so you need to do big damage and kill whatever you need to do before it kills you. This isnt a build for dungeons. Even on my warrior I do not go into dungeons with glass cannon builds its just foolish.

Part of the balance issues is in other games there is a difference between magic damage and physical damage. Thats how they balance PVE for mages. So mages can do good damge to mobs with little defense. In this game damage is damage. Then in PVP what they do is nerf everyone stats so the magic damage isnt too high aginst heavys.

ANET wants to be different. But they are slowly realizing now that the reason why people do the things the way they did becasue they thought about anets ideas and they don’t work.

The only way they can truely balance this game is a complete split between PVP and WVW and PVE.

Warriors can’t tank. Mace is the lowest damage weapon we have. Thats why you can’t hold aggro. You went full defensive and your damage is pathetic. Your not helping your party by at all when you don’t do damage. If Guild Wars had a DD class like in other games where you have Tanks, DDs, Mages, Healers. Warrior is the DD class. Your not designed to tank. If you want to tank roll a guardian.

If you just want high damage in PVE that is pretty easy thing to achieve. But if wouldn’t do axe axe in wvw. mainly its the offhand spin skill kinda sucks unless you are comboing in a combo field. AXE+ AXE is stricly PVE. AXE+SHIELD is nice for PVP though. The shield can increase your survival a lot when using axe main hand. Cuz axe doesn’t really have escape skills. So you cant disengage with an axe. without necessarily building tanky a shield helps mitigate damage. And the stun skill on the shield can set you up to do eviscerate.

You didnt say what you wanted the build for pve/wvw/pvp etc so im reluctant to give you one without knowing.

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I think something like this would be good. Don’t be fooled that becasue you dont have tons of points in str or arms that it doesn’t do damage http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAnXTjcOxu9OCPMRCAUhqMKKaI1j2cLuUBxA

use knights gear or the PVT karma gear. With soldier runes to the shouts remove conditions.

Ubercube.3608:

Yaki.9563:

What exactly is the point of these builds? You aren’t tanking anything, you are doing worse damage, and you aren’t providing any real utility.

The Ideal build Is to be tanky enough and to keep all the mobs on me and away from my party using cripples and such.
Using the shouts to remove conditions and to heal allies and give them might isn’t a good utility?
I’m seriously asking if it is not in a joke or anything, and I do decent amount of damage with bloodlust sigil.

If you think this isn’t good then please post your view on the build it would really help me

I think it isnt good I’ma post a build for u in a second.

Try This You can swap to a range weapon when you need it. Ranged weapons are situational.

The build uses a AXE/Shield. And a Sword/Warhorn. Reason Is Axe does decent damage. And you still have a Shield to block with. To help you mitagate damage The other set uses a warhorn for AOE weakness to negate damage Mobs with weakness are supposed to do half damage to you. It will also buff you with Vigor so you can dodge more to negate damage. Also it is trated so it will remove a condition from you similare to a shout except it will convert it into a boon. The sword is for mobility But you could use another axe here instead or a mace for another block.

For stength you have berserkers power so you can still do damage. And in the defense tree you have cull of the weak so when you use the war horn to cast aoe weakness you will do 5% more damage. In the Tactics tree you have empowered so you do more damage for every boon on you. So when you pop signet of rage you do more damage. This is a tanky build that can still do mediocre damage if played right.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRBHdxG2JnDJP28gUQMRGAQP06qtMFKK9oM2SD

So heres the GS / AXE Shield build I’ve been playing with.

An explanation of what is going on with it.
Using Maint oil in Wvw to make up for not having any points in arms.

I uses a GS for mobility with mobile strikes. It is also traited 10% with Zerkers power trait.

Using the new Dogged March. With some negative duration Condi food.

Have Leg specialist for some CC so I can land HB, and stop the kiters. I can range Immobilize with the GS and the AXE.

Traited empowered so when I pop signet of rage I get some more DMG.

Then we have Signet mastery so Signets will CD faster and mobile strikes.

On the bar I’m using signet of fury to give me more precision 180 and I can hit Eviscerate multiple times in a fight. By pushing the skill for full adrenaline.

Signet of Stamina to wipe all conditions. I can dodge more often and negate damage by dodging. It works with Building momentum 15 points in strength and eviscerate so every time I pop eviscerate I can dodge more.

Bulls chage again so I can close gaps and land skills. And keep people from kiting.

For armor I am using all knights armor with Ruby orbs.

Weapons I am using zerker weapons. I got a AOE fire sigil in my GS and AXE. For shield I have the hydromancer sigil so when I swap weps in chills nearby enemy’s again to prevent kiting.

For the accessory Im using all Knights accessory with exquisite ruby jewels. And a Zerker back pack.

All in All this is a decent build give it a try.

Bearzu Smash.5962:

I went with a 10/20/0/30/10 build with healing shouts and Soldier runes for condition removal on shouts. No complaints about damage, and the extra heals and condition removals have been pretty slick (in addition to the might, fury, and vulnerability, obviously).

Certainly not tanky with ‘zerker gear, but I’m pretty sure you’re never going to able to face-tank as a warrior anyway. A mix of Knight and Valk gear would certainly up survivability, however.

I wouldn’t use valk gear, Warriors dont need more HP especially with 30 in tactics, I would do cavaliers gear instead pow/tough/crit.

He probably needs 20 in discipline for the mobile strikes…. He needs 10 in tactics for leg specialist. He did’t post his build but I’m amusing that is what hes running. So that leaves him with 40 point left. I know its sad. If you want the dogged march your going to ahve to make a sacrifice somwhere. The should of made it a minor trait. Anyways.

10/25/0/10/25 maybe. You will trade the 10% GS damage increase for 10% more damage to bleeding foes, pick up the trait Deep cuts for 50% increase in bleeding duration and you have a minor trait to cause 33% chance of bleeding. You will have a little more crit power and a little more burst damage. use a axe/shield or something to take advantage of the 3% burst now on eviscerate. the 25 point minor trait on dis is might when you swap. So I think trading 10 in strength for 25 in arms and d5 in dis makes up for it and maybe slightly stronger actually.

Equius.4356:

Hey everyone, I just needed some help with picking a build. I’ve seen posts about doing something with points in defense because its just better for surviving, then some will argue against it, blah blah. I want to know what’s a good build for having good DPS with a greatsword, then the other weapon set I don’t know what I’d want or need. I’d want it to make me be able to tank possibly? What should I use for that and what should the build be to do this, and the type of gear I should be using? This is for PvE by the way.

Warriors cant tank. No mater what build and weapon they use. They don’t have protection or the healing abilities of the guardian. If your asking for a gs build that can tank the answer is there is not one. If you just want a GS build that can do good damage with a more survivability. Only put 10 in strength and put 25 in arms. Then you have 35 points left to play with. Either put the 30 in tactics so you can do healing shouts. or put them in defense. I would do 10/25/25/0/10 or something.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|a5.p3a.p21.0.a6|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Knights + 5 pirate + 1 traveler. Slow move speed? Ditch the longbow and get a zerker GS, the axe is fine get another axe for the off hand so you can spin to tag more mobs for farming events.

You only need to do 25 in arms really. just for the 10% damage to bleeding mobs.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|a5.p3a.f2.0.k36|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

The people who say HB is holding warriors have never used a solid axe build. In fact something like haste axe1 + eviscerate is more powerful than HB. Not only can you move while attacking you can also leap and deal massive damage and you cannot be interrupted. The people who are advocating HB nerfs are the same people who are trying to keep warriors down and don’t even play the profession to begin with, nerfing HB would make Warriors even worst than they are now. Nerfing isn’t the answer. IF HB was so good than why isnt warrior good in SPVP. Becasue HB is a fail skill.

Um if you have to use healing power so your terrible heals become less terrible but are still terrible and now your damage is terrible. Than you have traded being terrible for being terrible.

Been playing with burst master trait, and came up with this build. Its for Axe/Shield and Sword/Warhorn.

Caveats of the build is there is no leg specialist, so you have to use Flurry for immobilize, shield stun from the shield, and bulls charge for a knock down.

Mobility is from the sword/warhorn. Offense is from the axe and shield.

Idea with the build is you get might stacks from blocking with the shield. If you block 10 attacks thats 10 stacks of might. Your main damage is from eviscerate. You have a 50% additional chance to crit when you stun with the shield. Example of usage would be Block gain might, shield stun then eviscerate. Every time you use a burst skill it almost restores your endurance full, and have more chance to crit.

I wouldn’t say this build is viable but it works for 1v1. VS some professions.

Its 15/15/10/0/30 if you want to give it a try. Reasons to put 15 in strength and arms is the minor traits revolve around burst skills. Burst skills restore endurance, and burst skills have a 10% critical chance.

I kinda think this is the kinda build that ANET had in mind I think its a step in the right direction but burst mastery is too deep of an investment for it to be really good. You end up having to sacrifice too much for too little.

Edit
Dogged march is great but the minor trait more defense when health is above 90 is laughable. It takes 1 hit for your health to fall below 90 making it a total waste of 5 points. So you have to waste 5 points to get something decent. Thats the whole problem with the warriors traits. It should be more like more defense when health is over 50% or something. or get rid of it altogether and replace it with something viable.