Guild Wars 2

Khisanth.2948:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Condition-duration-vs-Condition-duration/2204523

It can be tested in WvW too.

For condition duration reduction there are many things to consider. For starters there are many different sources of conditions with varying durations so a -65% is going to be different in each case. Then there is the difference between damaging and non-damaging conditions. For damaging conditions any reduction below a whole second is good, rounding isn’t going to matter much there but for non-damaging ones the exact duration will make a difference.

As for long condition durations, you can play around with Risen Gorillas. One of their attacks can give you a minute of cripple if you take all the hits.

Sorry I don’t have a lot of time to read into this (at work). But what you are saying basically is that there is an advantage to having -65% vs -50% for conditions that have a long duration? I need to reduce all conditions durations as much as I possibly can. But if there is a point where I no longer am benefitting from it, I’d prefer to not buy the most expensive foods.

My aim is to reduce condition duration significantly. But I have been lead to understand that the game rounds to the nearest 1/4th of a second in relation to conditions.

An example setup:
6 runes of melandru resulting in -25% condition duration reduction
+ 1 bowl of lemongrass and poultry soup resulting in -40% condtion duration reduction.
= a total of -65% condition duration reduction.

Is this helping anymore than say -50% condition duration reduction would? Is it rounding down to the 1/4 second near -50% or is it rounding up to the 1/4 second near -75%?

I would very much appreciate some concrete information on this, or at least a method of testing it, as you can ONLY test the runes in sPvP and not PvE/WvW and not the food. So if you know of a mob in PvE that inflicts a significant duration of a non-stacking condition, please share!

Well the original description of engineer was something along the lines of: Use components to create powerful constructs. Which then never happened.

Penguin.5197:

Warriors axe block skill also got this treatment so Im thinking it was a general change for blocking not a deliberate nerf.

Warrior sword block you mean?

“Riposte: When players block an attack from range, it no longer cancels the blocking.”

Penguin.5197:

From what I remember, pre-patch you could still overcome automated response by having condition duration higher than +100% so I figured they left this out of patch since it was just a rewording of what it did.

But if the mechanics did change I would sure like to know.

No it would literally say “Immune” in red above their head on enemies who had this trait active.

If you can cleanse all damage condition you receive, then you can go full toughness. If you can cleanse most of them but not always the damaging ones, get some vitality. If you have terrible cleansing, then…. you’re doing it wrong, and more vit probably won’t help you.

Terrahero.9358:

Im still curious if the old conditions pre-25% are also reduced now.

So am I. If it reduces pre-25% I will still run it, if not…. I might ditch it for something like bomb heals, backpack regen, sitting duck, speedy kits, kit refinement, explosive descent

Rozbuska.5263:

Its more boost then nerf. Before you was immune to new condis under 25% HP but that what you recive before still ticks same way. Now you get 100% condi reduction to all condis when you are under 25%. Afaik condi duration reduction is counted after condi duration boosts so no matter what condi duration enemy have its always reduce all condis by 100%. You still get first tick but its much better than before.

This doesn’t feel correct from play. I will be testing it myself, and respond back when I can.

For fights higher than 1v1 it is a buff. You block for longer, and stun EVERYONE within melee range that attacks you. I use it in wvw in the middle of zergs to stun massive amounts of enemies. Oh and you can still throw it right before it ends.

Terrahero.9358:

A ninja nerf is a nerf done secretly and not included in the patchnotes. This change was very much included in the patchnotes. So it wasnt a ninjanerf.

I havent used it yet, so i gotta ask. Are conditions applied before Automated Response triggers now also reduced or not?

If no, then its a nerf. If yes, then it depends on the fight but it could be a buff.

Show me where it is in the notes then. I have a screenshot of the trait 2 days before last patch. And I have searched over the last three patch notes both manually and with a search function. I have not seen it anywhere.

You are probably thinking of this for warriors:
“Berserker’s Stance: Increased the recharge to 60 seconds. Reduced the duration to 4 seconds. This stance now reduces incoming condition duration by 100%, so only modified conditions can get through.”

The way automated response worked before was that any existing conditions staying upon entering 25% hp zone. And new ones wouldn’t apply. I haven’t been able to test the new version, as I just found out about it. but usually condition reducers that activate while a condition is already in effect do not reduce that ones current timer.

I would love for anet to post in here about the new specifics of this trait. I might not use it anymore.

Anet ninja nerfed this trait and left it out of the patch notes. Oops.

New Automated Response: “Condition duration is reduced by 100% when health is below 25%”

Old Automated Response: “Become Immune to conditions when health is below 25%”

So for those wondering, this means that if someone spec’s for condition duration, this trait will now only reduce the “normal” duration, you will still receive the boosted duration portion of their condition.

New testing is required, will be doing this tomorrow hopefully unless we can get anet devs to give us new specifics.

A 12 gauge…..

Was expecting a QQ of somekind. But I agree on your points with the blacklisting. Also if I have someone blocked, why am I allowed to still send them whispers?…

Danielle.3152:

The real question here is why would anyone care about the WvW mechanics:

Trebs, boring, check
Arrow carts, boring, check
Being stationary and getting stuff upgraded, boring, check
Escorting dolyaks, boring, check
Winning being about coverage and nightcapping rather than skill, boring, check
0 rewards or “e-fame” due to winning matchup due to above, boring, check
.

Yes but there are other games that center around purely fighting. GW2 WvW is not one of them currently. Do I wish there was some kind of mode focused on large fights? Yes, yes I do. (Hint hint Anet, guild battles)

Also what must be considered is that many guilds and servers build based around the mechanics of WvW. To sustain. RG builds to kill quick in open field.

I’ve got 7k achievement points, but I don’t go for them or anything. is there a renewable source of achieve points? Or are you just limited to what is there that you haven’t unlocked yet? I know nothing about them. I hope it’s some kind of system where it goes by tiers with free unlocks

example:
tier 1 = 1000 achievement points: access to skin 1 set
tier 2 = 2000 achievement points: access to skin 2 set
etc etc

The system I hope it ISNT is
Spend _# of your points to get _ skin
have no more available points to get _ skins
Sad face =(

Thieves would never kill anyone. As an engineer I have 3 aoe knockbacks, an interrupt, and a pull. Thieves don’t stealth stomp with me around. Also it’s painfully obvious when a thief is stealth stomping. Only inexperienced players allow this to happen.

Stealth stomping is fine, stability stomping is fine, shrink stomping is fine. They are all counterable (CC, Boon strip + CC, and interrupt before/after shrink) But there is one OP stomp, which is mist form, 100% cannot be countered. That’s what you should have made your thread about.

Sabull.5670:

RG, a guild who actively tell pugs of any quality to move to the zone commander and actively portals to keeps and warcamp to loose them. So a mega zerg doesn’t get created. Guild who always joins outmanned zones when possible for the same reason.
Everyone has their blob moments. But saying RG “mega zerg24/7”, you really have no idea what is a mega zerg or seen RG. Dam the kills could have been faceroll idd with a 60man zone blob 24/7.

Capping stuff -> action happens as a result usually. So I guess we do care about the “mechanics of wvw”, or atleast the result of it.

AndrewSX.3794:

I don’t think you’ve ever played with or against RG.

You guys are right, I’ve only been playing on blackgate since day 1. I have never seen RG or their very small area of focus damage in front of their zerg ball. I have never walked through the side/back of their zerg and taken 0 damage. End sarcasm.

Are you going to deny that red guard only cares about fights? You guys have said it before. And yes, I know you don’t care about your pugs. I could always tell when I would pull one RG member off the back and kill it, then see your full zerg turn around to res him. Noble to be sure and quite understandable, but the priorities are obvious, won’t see them turn around to pick up randoms.

You can tell the pugs what you like, but it doesn’t take a genius to be able to follow an untagged or mobile commander. “Mega-Zerg” maybe not, you’re right in that regard. But RG does ball up in high numbers and zerg around the map nonetheless.

I congratulate you again, but my previous comments stands. It will have a lot more meaning for the people who get it and care for their camps, towers, keeps, and dolyaks. WvW isn’t Team Deathmatch. Don’t get so upset, it’s just a statement.

I have a JP policy of not attacking uplevels unless it is a mesmer near the top. I also won’t attack someone unless they are attacking me or fellow server mates. If they’re camping somewhere, I will knock them to their death and kill them. I think this is a pretty basic set of behavioral standards that many people carry into the JP.

Watch out for thieves and warriors, they often a bit full of themselves. But they will get tunnel vision and try to kill everything that moves. Kite them and knock em off a ledge. Duh, winning.

It’s more rewarding to let others attack you when you are minding your own business, then beat them up and /dance on their bodies to shame them for being so greedy.

Also: Mesmers are free game to attack at the top, because they will port in a lot of un-friendly people who will try to kill you. So kill the mesmer first.

Meh, if we all mega zerged 24/7 we’d all be close to the achievement as well. Many of us however defend towers, upgrade camps, escort yaks, flip camps, ninja towers, scout, etc etc.

A nice achievement and congrats, but it’s going to be a bit different for the rest of us who get it eventually and genuinely care about the mechanics of WvW and aim to win in our matchups.

Well at least make the borderlands look different. Make one full winter, make one fall with lots of trees, make one spring.

bravoart.5308:

aelflune.8590:

Thanks to people from Blackgate’s [DTG] and [WM] for ganging up on and killing non-hostile people, especially from relative safety above the arena, in the middle of the JP. These guilds have shown that they have no class. At least killing people at the start prevents them from wasting time trying.

Yup. There’s really no way to fight against that vantage point. I don’t see how choke points like this in specific were considered fair in development.

• There’s enough room to avoid a mesmer pull.
• Max ranged classes can hit 3/4ths of the room from the vantage point.
• The path up to the vantage point is purely medium/large jumps, in which you can’t make if in combat and or can be in range of knockbacks/pulls.
• There’s no way to remove the players from the vantage point from anywhere else in the room except by being past the vantage point.
• Invisibility doesn’t last long enough for most players to get through the shaft, ramp, mossy stones and dark room to bypass the vantage point.

What were you thinking anet?

You can make every single jump in the arena in combat if you have swiftness. I have tested it. But there should probably be a stealth fountain after the darkroom. Just be happy people can’t put siege in the JP anymore.

I love when people camp the arena, I take one of my engi or mesmer and pull them down, then our team murders them. We take top from them and kill their friends.

And flamethrower in the darkroom, SO fun

I thought it already was 5 minutes. And 2 minutes isn’t enough time to destroy a toilet, that wouldn’t be fair.

Tobias Steele.2071:

morrolan.9608:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Why is everyone complaining about getting greens?

Well for one thing one of the devs implied that either we would get rares or at least a good chance of rares.

Out of four chests today I have gotten two rares. Were you really expecting some kind of hand out? The chance of getting rares from these chests appears to be about the same as pve ones. (excluding the dragon chests) That seems fair.

149 rank chests across my characters, 1 rare.

OP joins PVP jumping puzzle and gets mad about there being PVP in it. When you go into the ebg puzzle you should expect to have to fight for your prize. If you don’t like fighting, there are 3 jumping puzzles in lions arch you can do.

Campers are my favorite, because I use stealth fountains, then get behind them and knock them to their death. Engineer elixir X for tornado on an enemy mesmer portal is the most satisfying.

Fastest classes are warrior, ranger, thief, ele. Of course this requires certain weapons sets, traits, etc. Warrior with GS, and sword/warhorn being fastest. Hardest to catch is a different story though, with thief and engineer topping that chart.

Just be happy the system didn’t auto ban you like so many others for this bug.

I’ve tried for a long time to get this to work, but with no results. Thanks for posting it, hopefully it will get noticed.

Blue side can’t even compete with this bug happening. This needs to be fixed ASAP. It’s ridiculous that this hasn’t been resolved yet, but things like investigation kits get patched within a few hours.

Very insulting to WvW players.

Thank you for recording this. I can’t run a video capture program, and everytime I try to screen shot SoR doing this it’s too late and they’ve left the arrow cart. Something must be done about it soon, because a lot of wvw players are sick of this kind of exploit, and have started leaving the game for good.

A lot of masks do this. Especially with eyebrows and eye spacing. I’ve had to buy numerous makeover kits and adjust my characters face to fit inside the confines of the headpieces. Aetherblades helm I had to lower brow thickness, eye spacing, bridge width, and nose length

Blue side can’t even compete with this bug happening. This needs to be fixed ASAP. It’s ridiculous that this hasn’t been resolved yet, but things like investigation kits get patched within a few hours.

Very insulting to WvW players.

Thanks for the tip. Done this so many times, and someone always runs too close to me and messes up the pattern I’ve made.

If people don’t get it this way, then some are just going to use thieves and 1 person kiting… so which do you prefer people doing for a public event that’s supposed to be fun? “You’re not a thief GET OUT”

Rising Dusk.2408:

Oh no, not 24 hours without traps! They’re integral to all servers’ success in WvW! Whatever will we do?

You must play in tier 8.

Jeremiah Lee.2764:

Thank you for the posts!

Thank you for the comment. Is something being done right now? It’s been over 24 hours without traps.

Didn’t work for me at all with checkbox selected.

I got it to work finally and here is what I did:
Check the box for aoe loot in main settings.
Set F as the key for aoe looting
set H as the key for interact.

It now works the last 10 or so times I’ve used it, waiting a few seconds between attempts.

It displays the typical arenanet error message of “This content has been temporarily disabled. Please try again later.” when you attempt to use one.

This is a priority for everyone in wvw. Please fix asap.

Asura backpacks are very bugged. Engineer sees it the most with the kits. This is so annoying looking.

Some bugs include:
Unsheathing weapons causes backpack to fly around.
taking a step backwards makes the backpack turn lateral.
using certain skills makes the backpack disappear

Astral Projections.7320:

Edit: it occurred to me. What if those people had gone to WvW instead of PvE areas to do their griefing? Would you still have preferred to wait a day or two for the patch to go thru if they were causing WvW to lag and crash? Hmmmm. Don’t answer right away. I know that question is a tuffy.

Lagging and crashing is not something new to WvW, it’s a 24/7 event. But I took your advice and thought about my answer. It really was a tuffy.

mercury ranique.2170:

Yip you laugh bout others and dont have any respect to them. It is curtuous you tried to come up for your WvW friends, I give you that, but the way you are showing your other nature after that makes you less then a cave troll.

^ None of this makes sense. Please reword and try again.

mercury ranique.2170:

Yip you are truly narrow minded, what a pitty, well there are more lost souls, lucky that most people are more then you. I guess your name (white and milky) is also a hidden remark on how you treat people who are different. Ah well your loss

So you caring about pve and not wvw isn’t narrow minded? What a hypocrite. As for the comment on my name… well… I have no response because it doesn’t make sense. Are you calling me a racist?

Esplen.3940:

Esplen.3940:

You could also do it in WvW to stop someone from being able to stomp you unless they had you targeted.

Re-iterating why it was hotpatched in, namely because this thread relates to WvW, yet everyones ignoring this point.

Ignoring it because it doesn’t matter. No one is preventing themselves from dying by laying on the ground spamming investigation kits. If that stops you from killing someone…. #1 why didn’t you have them targeted? and #2 just beat them up on the ground. I personally would have laughed if I saw someone do it, but I play endless hours of wvw everyday and didn’t see it happen once.

mercury ranique.2170:

Yip definitly minus 1, specially for asuming that WvWvW is the only thing that matters. Most parts oft his community is very friendly and understanding to each other, and also to the fact that some people have different interests and priority’s then your own. I am truly sorry that you are so narrow minded. I think you deserve to be more.

You assume that I assume WvW is all that matters. “When you assume….” I’ve probably done more PvE than you and your friends combined.

Reset night is a big deal for WvW. But I guess it is more important to kick every single person out of wvw and reset them in a 1-2 hour que than to have lions arch be a little bit laggy for people playing on lite brites. This is simply one example of arenanet doing this, not the only.

Yip “definitly” minus 1.

Astral Projections.7320:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Seriously, please postpone these unimportant updates until the next day. This happens all the time, and your WvW population is getting really tired of it, it irritates us to no end.

“Added a cooldown timer to the activation of the Investigation Kit obtained from Marjory Delaqua and changed the functionality of the kit so that it will destroy itself when dropped.”

Really? That was so important that we need to prevent people from playing wvw on the most important night of every matchup? Can’t even login with the server down. Thanks.

People were using these kits to grief the world events by spamming the kits and dropping them on the ground. This was causing at best major lag and at worse it was causing people to lose connections in the middle of the Boss fights. They were also spamming the drops in LA to cause major lag. So, it was important to the people who were getting kicked from these events due to this.

There were some threads about this in the forums and I saw people doing this.

They could have done the patch before or after the nights reset. They chose to do it during reset where a lot of the important work for the week is done. They have done this a lot of times now, and we are all tired of it.

Seriously, please postpone these unimportant updates until the next day. This happens all the time, and your WvW population is getting really tired of it, it irritates us to no end.

“Added a cooldown timer to the activation of the Investigation Kit obtained from Marjory Delaqua and changed the functionality of the kit so that it will destroy itself when dropped.”

Really? That was so important that we need to prevent people from playing wvw on the most important night of every matchup? Can’t even login with the server down. Thanks.

Many of us have old soulbound rings from fractals that are of little use to us now. Maybe you could allow us to throw them together in the forge and pop a new random one out!

Thanks,
-Milky

Lepew.7890:

No way vertical range counts. On a flat map with radar zoomed in, I can port to about the corner from the center. Have a commander sit at a position sometime to try this out. In the NW tower, any borderland, you can drop a portal from that ledge behind the lords room, and run all the way down to NW camp, and still port up from about the edge of the radar. In the two cases one has negligable z-change, while the other has considerable z-change.

Agree the UI needs to be improved. Frankly I think the portal should exit portal should not be permitted to be placed if you are out of portal range. That would be a super easy fix.

Vertical range does count. And it can be deceptive. Like when portaling from outer south gate of hills to near south inner, the range is significantly reduced because of the stairs.

I don’t think it factors vertical at a 1:1 ratio though

Because mesmers already know the range of their portals. Make your map as big as possible, then zoom in. The distance from your center position to a lateral or vertical edge is the max range. Mark your start point with an alt + click on the map if needbe. Or click on someone at your portal entrance, and when they become Untargeted you have gone out of range.

That being said…. A red bar under the portal exit wouldn’t hurt… But the current system rewards good mesmers and prevens people who don’t know how to portal properly from dropping bad portals. A bad portal can wipe your strike force.

I am so very happy to see Anet doing something about the match-up system. Will it be perfect? No it probably won’t, any new system will have unexpected results. But the fact that a problem is being worked on instead of ignored is a big deal.

Matchups have become very stale, very boring, and the lower tiers never get to experience more advanced tactics. If you never compete against players and groups better than your own, there isn’t a way to improve, because you never need to change your tactics and procedures. I think this new system can only help us. I’m sure the new system will have to be modified and fine tuned, but I am eagerly anticipating it’s implementation.

I’m hoping skill-lag is next on their list.

Milky,
-Blackgate (tier 1)

I can’t be the only person with these tokens left.

The game isn’t big enough to warrant mounts. The zones are too small. We already have a plethora of swiftness, which many of the MMOs with mounts don’t have.

This game definitely doesn’t need mounts, they would only serve to trivialize the already minimal amount of land-mass and content we have.

Maybe a year down the line when the game gets bigger, then mounts would make sense.