Guild Wars 2

Fomivee.3065:

BrunoBRS.5178:

the canthan district was never canon. it never made its way to any consumer-playable build. canonically, what became the great chasm (and later the crown pavilion) was an arts district.

Isn’t Ghosts of Ascalon book considered canon? I’m pretty sure GW2 wiki states it is. And Canthan district IS mentioned in this book.

I believe some npc’s mentioned it too when the crown pavilion was still the great collapse. It’s definitely canon, it was just destroyed before we got to see it, but it was definitely there at some point in the timeline.

Gizmo.9178:

LumpOfCole.4701:

My wife and I are making the best of the situation.

omg that thing on the right is going to give me nightmares Q_Q

That’s one of those creepy new faces. Looks like what you get if you press ‘random’ in the Oblivion character creation screen.

xXMapcoXx.9614:

Well seeing that the sylvari will soon be the master race you all should be asking “what should we say at your trial?” Bow before the might of the powerful Jungle dragon.

In your dream. Both figuratively and literally.

CureForLiving.5360:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

story/gameplay segration.

Not really. More like MMO time-travel. Since each zone sort of follows narratively (no Pact in low level areas because they don’t technically exists by that time). Fort Trinity (and Orr in general) exists in a time around Zaitan’s death.

That’s what I call story/gameplay segration. The entire world being in the same time zone, even though some zones kind of don’t.

Aethgar.1784:

Like having Abraham Lincoln dressed as a leprechaun with a French accent but in charge of the National Socialist Patry of Germany in terms of wtf mishmash and cultural insensitivity.

I would either find that very silly or hilarious. But I would not be offended by it. Because it’s just a video game and Cantha is a fantasy world, it doesn’t really need to be historically accurate. And it is quite petty to get upset over a fictional world in a video game because it mixes an interpretation of your culture with other cultures. But that’s just my opinion.

I guess some people are more serious about their culture than others..

Rangelost.4857:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Astral Projections.7320:

I would be interested in reading about these cultures. Please give the names where the hunters are females and the males are caregivers.

afaik there have been no such cultures except in fairy tales and anime.

Yikes. Way to dismiss minorities…

There are certain tribes that still lead this kind of lifestyle

I said ‘as far as I know’. So I included the possibility I could be wrong.

Rangelost.4857:

notably the Aka people.

The Also Known As people? :P
Sorry, that one was too easy.

story/gameplay segration.

I want more weapon skills.

Ashen.2907:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Except Arenanet did not say what release model they were going to use before launch. Yes they never said anything about expansions but they never said anything about Living Story either.

Before launch Colin said that they expected to release an expansion someday.

interesting.

Now this is what I am talking about people. That is an expansion worth of content.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

I’m still angry about that whole thing. Some asians didn’t want it, so what?
Cantha is part of the lore wether they want it or not.

When you’re using other people’s cultures you have to respect them. It doesn’t matter if it was already an established part of the lore, if it was going to offend a couple of Asian cultures because it blended them (there are a lot of Asian cultures that are quite hostile towards one another) then it makes sense to remove it until such a time that you can revise it so that it isn’t offensive.

Your attitude is racist. You don’t realise it, but it is. You don’t just get to do whatever you want with other people’s cultural heritage. It holds meaning for them and to abuse that meaning is to enact violence against their culture.

I think people are just blowing this entirely out of proportion, it’s just a video game… what’s the big deal. And racist? I have nothing against the asian race nor did I ever claim to. Ingame cultures are often based on real life cultures (asian cultures, nordic cultures, european cultures, african cultures, arabic cultures, the list goes on). This is as old as gaming itself, why is it a problem all of a sudden? I honestly don’t understand.

Ayrilana.1396:

I will say that the Seaskn 2 story was much larger than EotN though.

To each their own. But I’m afraid I can not agree with that. All the zones combined are definitely much bigger than just dry top and The Silverwastes. 18 dungeons is a lot better than the amount of dungeons season 2 had (there were none). Season 2 added no skills at all. And so far only 6 armor sets were added.

Ayrilana.1396:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Ayrilana.1396:

Those that essentially live in the game will have completely everything within a month.

I’d rather have a lot of content to have fun with for a few months straight than a few hours every 2 weeks with huge breaks every now and then.

Don’t play any of the living story episodes and content until the seasons are over.

yeah no. Even the entirety of Season 2 is no expansion worth of content.
This is what one of the gw1 expansions (EoTN) had:
-41 new armor sets, including rare, stand-alone pieces
-100 new profession-specific skills (10 per profession, none of which are elite)
-50 new PvE only skills including 3 elite skills
-10 new heroes (gw2 has no heroes but still you get the idea)
-18 Dungeons
-124 new quests
-The Hall of Monuments
-4 new regions (which were comprised of 24 zones, yes that’s right, 24!)

All season 2 episodes combined don’t come close to that. And that was just the small expansion. The stand alone expansions (Factions and Nightfall were even bigger).

mtpelion.4562:

I have neither the time nor inclination to tip-toe around the eggshell egos of the illogical.

Agreed, it’s time I stop doing that now.

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videoboy.4162:

To all the people focusing on breasts when it comes to female clothing, I have to ask: have you never seen a little girl in a dress before? Or in ANY clothing before? They can choose to wear feminine clothing without having breasts, so why can’t Asura or Charr?

Yeah I don’t get where that breast argument is coming from either. This is about clothing, no one said anything about wanting breasts.

Well except Smooth Penguin maybe but I’m sure he was joking, otherwise I’m getting concerned ^^

mtpelion.4562:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

mtpelion.4562:

Now, ArenaNet could eventually release an expansion, but until they do you are still just a guy ordering pizza at a burger place and yelling at everyone who tells you to go down the road to Pizza Hut.

Except Arenanet did not say what release model they were going to use before launch. Yes they never said anything about expansions but they never said anything about Living Story either.

So a better analogy would be: Going to a restaurant that is called “restaurant”. You have no idea what kind of restaurant but still, it’s a restaurant. You go in, order a steak, then they suddenly change the name to Pizza Hut.

That argument stopped working when the game launched. Everyone knows that it is called “Best Burgers Ever” now.

lolkay

mtpelion.4562:

Now, ArenaNet could eventually release an expansion, but until they do you are still just a guy ordering pizza at a burger place and yelling at everyone who tells you to go down the road to Pizza Hut.

Except Arenanet did not say what release model they were going to use before launch. Yes they never said anything about expansions but they never said anything about Living Story either.

So a better analogy would be: Going to a restaurant that is called “restaurant”. You have no idea what kind of restaurant but still, it’s a restaurant. You go in, order a steak, then they suddenly change the name to Pizza Hut.

nGumball.1283:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Ayrilana.1396:

Those that essentially live in the game will have completely everything within a month.

I’d rather have a lot of content to have fun with (see what I did there) for a few months straight than a few hours every 2 weeks with huge breaks every now and then.

I still don’t understand why you believe Anet will stop with Living Story if they actually release an expansion!

Oh if they want to continue LS then by all means go ahead. It would be a good way to keep players entertained in between expansions. Frankly, that’s what I though LS was intended for when it first appeared, to fill the gap between expansions.

Ayrilana.1396:

Those that essentially live in the game will have completely everything within a month.

I’d rather have a lot of content to have fun with for a few months straight than a few hours every 2 weeks with huge breaks every now and then.

Liz.1497:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Manifibel.8420:

Great episode and really cool cinematics, all 3 of them, counting the one before last boss fight.
Also first time I actually cared alot for a character. RIP Wynne. You got my first sad moment and a tear in GW2. I will find Faolain and torture her with that strange bush. even tho I dont play a Sylvari

I don’t get why Caithe simply didn’t kill Faolain instead. If she’s going to betray her anyway.

Yeah, or, you know… knock her unconscious so Wynne and Caithe can escape together or something.

Indeed. There were plenty of options besides killing Wynne, who did not deserve to die at all.

And then there’s people like me. People who love the world and love the game. But played every aspect of it do death and want more. And LS does not deliver.

Astral Projections.7320:

Rangelost.4857:

Astral Projections.7320:

Would a sentient non human species, if females were warlike and males the caregivers, think harps or soft sound as female?

[…]

Female Asura and Charr are feminine but not by human standards and certainly without being pretty or soft.

* Traditional Euro-American standards

There are human cultures in the world where females are hunters are males are caregivers, and others where both can fulfill either role. The whole “boys are superheroes and girls are princesses” religious stereotype is not universal in any way.

I would be interested in reading about these cultures. Please give the names where the hunters are females and the males are caregivers.

afaik there have been no such cultures except in fairy tales and anime.

I really loved the gameplay. Free to run, jump, roll, climb etc and use most of your attacks while moving. Most mmo’s are so stiff.

Also, around launch time, I was convinced we would be getting expansions/campaigns on a regular basis just like Guild Wars 1. yeah…

mtpelion.4562:

3. If you go to “Best Burger Ever” and order a pizza, they aren’t going to make you happy. If people tell you not to order pizza at “Best Burger Ever” and you tell them that their argument is stupid… well, let’s just say you may need to look up the definition of “stupid”.

Incorrect analogy. Guild Wars 1 had expansions and this game was advertised as a Guild Wars game. By the time the game launched nobody knew we would be getting Living Story. As far as anyone knew, Guild Wars 2 would have gotten expansions just like Guild Wars 1 got them.

If Arenanet made clear from the very beginning the game would have no traditional expansions, then your argument would have made sense.

leman.7682:

Finally, you didn’t understand the message I tried to send with my post. I tried to gently say that you made 23 characters, grinded them to max gear and now will block anything that works against your perfect world. Well, let me bring it to you -this is life, the more you have the more you have to pay attention to it.

This is not life this is a video game. A fantasy world where you can do the things you never could in real life. That kind of logic has no meaning here.

Having to regrind gear is not what Guild Wars is about, period.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I can’t wait to see all the whining when they announce the level cap increase. They said if they ever did an expansion they would increase the level cap, but people seem to always just put their fingers in their ears and hum when it is brought up…

They said they’d like to increase the level cap, not that they would actually do it. Big difference.

And it would be completely assinine if they did. Having to regrind gear for my 20 alts would be a nightmare. And for what? Levels don’t mean a thing in this game anyway.

I’m still angry about that whole thing. Some asians didn’t want it, so what?
Cantha is part of the lore wether they want it or not.

Oh for the love of..
The naysayers had their precious Living Story for 2 years now.
Let us have our Expansion please.. I don’t care wether it’s a boxed sale or if it’s digital. As long as the content is traditional expansion content.

I liked season 2 a lot more that season 1 because it added permanent content, new zones and actual story missions (similair to the personal story). The only problem it still had was quantity (imo). Now at the end of this last episode Anet has raised the stakes and there is a good chance for an expansion, which could take care of the quantity problem. So yes, I am more satisfied with this episode than the others.

Not only that but the Awakening of an Elder Dragon always came with an immediate cataclysm (The brand, rising of Orr, destruction of the Far Shiverpeaks etc). So far that had yet to happen with Mordremoth. And I believe that time has finally come, considering what happened to the pact fleet.

Besides, I said it before and I will say it again, I am being critical because I care. If I didn’t care I would simply play something else.

Well I am quite tired of her keeping everything from us and constantly stealing the kitten egg. Just give us the egg already!!

Dondarrion.2748:

No trial for Caithe; I mean, what the heck were we – the player character – going to do with it again anyway?

Make an omelette? Toss it at Mordremoth?

Turn it into a freakin mount!

The search function on this forum is indeed hopelessly broken

Astral Projections.7320:

Charr and Asuran are alien, non human species and in Tyrian lore, neither value dressing to display their “femininity”.

Actually humans are the aliens in Tyrian lore

Broken link.

Besides, I see no toys here:

Traditional expansion content or GTFO!!!!!

Well there could at least be some more differences in outfits. afaik T3 light (asura) is the only armor that has some difference between male and female.

Liz.1497:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Liz.1497:

I like how everyone’s assuming that the Sylvari would be losing that sort of a fight. Open world pvp gogo! Come at us bros!

4 races against 1, and the total sylvari population was only 15% of the playerbase according to that infographic. So unless the Sylvari can pull a battle of thermopylae you are all gonna die!!

not sure how you intend to even hit us when we’re riding a dragon and having a good time!

The Risen said the same thing

Ah yeah

Liz.1497:

I like how everyone’s assuming that the Sylvari would be losing that sort of a fight. Open world pvp gogo! Come at us bros!

4 races against 1, and the total sylvari population was only 15% of the playerbase according to that infographic. So unless the Sylvari can pull a battle of thermopylae you are all gonna die!!

nexxe.7081:

I highly doubt that it will be a paid expansion. That would go against everything Anet has promised, even since GW1.

I don’t recall them every promising there will never be an expansion. Just that there were no plans for one.

And even if they did they already broke most of their promises. Remember the ‘no grind’ one?

Sirendor.1394:

Simzani.4318:

It’s the new LS season. It will be as usual low quality low quantity, but they will present it in a way that we will have to pay each episode 200 gems. Connect won’t deblock it automatically.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

lmao if that’s the ‘great’ announcement at PAX people will burn the place down.

“We are going to release the same stuff as before, but now you have to pay for it! Isn’t that great! "

Yes and no.
Yes: I expect Heart of Thorns to be the same living story crap.
No: I don’t expect ArenaNet to SAY it’ll be the same stuff, but now with a price tag. Instead I expect ArenaNet to hype it up (like they are doing right now) and make people think that it IS something better than Living Story… which on hindsight it will probably not be.

So… living story with a pricetag is very likely. Sorry if I sound like a pessimist, but if there’s one impression I have gotten it’s that we should not trust ArenaNet to become good developers all of a sudden after:

• The lies of the manifesto; no grind best joke ever… this game is incredibly grindy
• The neglecting of World vs. World; fall 2012 -> spring 2014; spring 2014 -> now
• Edge of the mists; not even a wvw map, the people who play on it are PvE players
• The forcing of people into SPvP and desperate attempts at making it an Esports
• The lie of craftable precursors and scavenger hunt
• All the hideous promises: “soon”, “when it’s ready”, “we’re working on it”, “nothing is off the table”
• The addition of things PEOPLE DID NOT ASK FOR and the ignoring of brilliant suggestions of many people
• The CDI project: an obvious means of hushing the players and acting as if they were listening to us.
• The horrible trait locks of the september New player experience
• The so-called Living Story that was supposedly “an expansion’s worth of content”

I have not forgotten yet, ArenaNet. Have you?

If they do this I hope the place burns down.

Please don’t do this anet

Jerus.4350:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Jerus.4350:

All Locked behind 10 minutes of talking and waiting…

That was the most important part of it…. you know, the story?
The boss fighting mechanic was boring as hell imo.

I don’t think you’re grasping the concept here.

The story is fine, it’s great, but why would I want to listen to it 5 times? 10 times? 20 times? Hell I raged the third time I had to listen to it while I was doing achievements.

We’re asking that the content they’ve already made, be tweaked to be made into more replayable content.

It’s a good idea to make them nice and easy first go around so people can eat up their story. But, it’d only take a few minor tweaks to take something like Glint’s Lair and make it into a bit of challenging content with high replay value.

Ah I see. Yes I can see that might get tedious. Maybe anet should make seperate story and challenge versions for each story mission. Story versions are, like the name says, just for the story. The challenge versions are for achievements and focus just on the combat.

Jerus.4350:

All Locked behind 10 minutes of talking and waiting…

That was the most important part of it…. you know, the story?
The boss fighting mechanic was boring as hell imo.

dlonie.6547:

Too easy: no reset on wipe, OP rezzing by NPCs

That’s a good thing. I always hated when a boss’s health resets.
And npc’s ressing me is something I have wanted since day one. It was always so stupid when I died and npc’s were just standing there doing jack shid.

It’s funny how he states it’s just a joke thread literally at the very beginning, and some people still take it serious.

Simzani.4318:

It’s the new LS season. It will be as usual low quality low quantity, but they will present it in a way that we will have to pay each episode 200 gems. Connect won’t deblock it automatically.

lmao if that’s the ‘great’ announcement at PAX people will burn the place down.

“We are going to release the same stuff as before, but now you have to pay for it! Isn’t that great! "

Because I’m the only one who actually does something in those story missions. Everyone else is either cannon fodder or support.

Farzo.8410:

Kal Spiro.9745:

It’s not an expansion, it’s just more Living World. Anyone who expects differently is being deluded. There is absolutely nothing about the trailer that even remotely indicates anything more than Season 3

Saving quote for the future.

bookmark it as a permalink lmao.
Even if it’s not an expansion, it wouldn’t just another LS season, makes no sense.

sorudo.9054:

remember fallout 4?
that was “trademarked” as well, are you seeing any sign of that game?…….

The fallout 4 trademark didn’t come with a trailer and announcement that there would be some big reveal at PAX.

Besides the Fallout 4 trademark was a hoax.
http://www.pcgamer.com/bethesda-confirms-fallout-4-trademark-filing-is-a-hoax/

Sariel V.7024:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

SPOILERS If you haven’t finished the latest episode yet, stop reading, there be spoilers ahead.

During the end cinematic of the latest episode, we can see a lot of sylvari going completely crazy and attack the pact. Including lionguard and pact members.
This is shown once again in the cinematic that follows immediately after.

Now I wonder if this will affect our Sylvari player characters. And if so, how?
While I doubt our Sylvari PC’s would go crazy and join Mordremoth, I really hope there will be at least some effects. Maybe hearing soft whispers from time to time or some graphical effects on the edge of the screen. Or simply being treated differently, like we saw happening to Canach.

I hope that there is at least something. It would be weird and disappointing if our player characters (and caithe/trahearne) are completely free of corruption for no reason other than plot convenience.

I find this an interesting idea (though it could get annoying). But how long would you want it to go on? Surely we’re going to kill Mordremoth at some point, story-wise, but effectively, he is permanently in the game, just like Zhaitan and the Risen.

Perhaps just for a short while. Then we eventually find a way to resist corruption. Just like we used that krait orb to protect the pact against Zhaitan’s corruption.