Guild Wars 2

Im a little confused here, are you talking about population imbalance or outnumbered effect.

Indeed it would, Im in t1, I love the big fights and nothing worse then suddenly not being able to use any skills and the furious button mashing that ensues to desperately try to get them to work lol, but heck after 2 years in wvw Ive seen worse, if anyone remembers season 1, good lord that was the worst ever…never forget.

Hard to say since anet, at least to my knowledge, has not commented on the numerous threads regarding this issue thats been going on for 2 weeks…coincidentally since that stab patch. It might be related, but hasnt been confirmed, that was one of the buggiest updates ever so it might be something unrelated to the stab change or exactly the cause, until anet says something we cant really know.

winterchillz.2564:

So, hey everyone!

I’m looking forward to getting into more WvW and maybe PvP. I want a heavy armor class so it’s either warr or guard. What’d your recommendations be? I’d like to move more with zergs and play a supportive role so I’m unsure if I should look towards healing shouts or some kind of tanky guard build.

Thanks!

I recommend having one of each because they are both good and have their own uses. You cant simply look at them as heavy class, they are different professions which offer different roles to a group.

Warriors-
-Very high mobility
-High Damage
-High tankiness, regen
-Access to damage immunity from utility/trait, and conditions immunity from utility
-Group support with warhorn for swiftness, blast finisher, and condi cleanses if traited
-Shout heals if traited good aoe and personal support, can remove cons if trooper runes used
-Good ranged weapon options, although better to use hammer and s/wh for zergs
-Greatsword gives good mobility and damage but better for small group/havok setups
-Hammer great cc weapon, although slow and high cd’s
-Sword gives leap which is very useful, bleed stacking, and immobilize on burst
-Trait that can immobilize on cripple, and warriors have lots of cripple options
-Most used heal skill has low active heal, so proper kiting and knowing when to move -away is very important
-Banner elite has 240s cd so have to use at proper timing when commanders call for it, also coordinating among warriors in group is important so your not all dropping them at the same time
-Current pirateship meta can make it difficult to run dual melee, but still absolutely doable

Guardian-
-Extremely Durable
-Tons of ways to heal, so many you can lose count
-Low mobility at times, so staying with zerg is important
-Generally locked into 2 setups, shouts and meditations: Shouts for zerg/medi for roaming
-Staff is important support weapon, #3 skill rolling symbols for keeping swiftness up in moving groups, auto attack can hit 5 targets at once, easy to spread burning, but only 600 range on auto, empower allows for stronger spikes and can self heal for a ton if your near allies when traited with altruistic healing, lines are good for cc’s and removing stability stacks.
-GS does really good damage and is important for leaps, Binding Blade can pull thieves out of Shadow refuge. Hammer does good cc’s and #2 skill is a short cd blast finisher, but is really slow, for me at least. Some commanders will ask you to switch them around in different situations.
-Main heal skill for wvw/pvp has 2seconds of blocking
-Elite skill that grants immunity and virtue refresh with 90s cd
-Lots of group support
-Can remove conditions like no other profession- can use trooper runes, purging flames skill, and pure of voice which will stack with trooper runes to remove 2 cons in an aoe per shout, and more options as well.

Each profession also synergizes better with certain other professions in group compositions. This would also affect rune choices, for example melandru/hoelbrak runes work better for groups that can provide quick condi cleanses. So it also depends on your playstlye.

Glad to help, one thing you might find helpful is looking through some recent threads here on the forums for similar topics, because such questions are asked on almost a daily basis, and you might find some useful information on other EU servers. Have fun

I cant speak for EU servers, but if your ever interested in coming to an NA server you could always consider a bronze server if your looking to avoid blobs, they are still there but less of it on lower tiers, one suggestion is SoR, they are running a lot of small teams. A good silver league server with lots of small teams is Darkhaven, they also have a very nice community. If you are staying on EU, perhaps consider transfering up to a more active tier, wish I could help you more, but I am not knowledgable on EU, good luck.

What kind of roaming are you interested in? Fights oriented or more havok style, camps, towers, keep ninja flips etc. Also what group size do you typically run with, which server are you currently on, and also what timezone are you active?

dancingmonkey.4902:

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Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.

Yeah, cause comments like that certainly must inspire them to happily want to run out and assist you and the other player base. Thank you for your honesty about how you contributed to the problem.

Settle down mr white knight, it was a joke, he was in our ts while we were farming JQ, learn to develop a sense of humor, and how exactly did I contribute to causing lag?

Use your server’s communications for one thing, ts, mumble etc. Joining a guild helps, map hopping and looking for a tag, watching the map to see whats going on etc. You might have trouble finding zergs in some servers during certain timezones, the higher the tiers the more active it gets.

Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.

I know this has been going on for a long time, but can you guys finally fix this bug already. Currently when traited with Blasting Staff and trying to use aoe ground targeting it will show the old smaller untraited aoe ring size instead of the traited increased size.

Hule.8794:

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we were trying to attack their garrison, is that not allowed anymore? When map blobs and siege all over the place is what your facing its common to take a north tower before hitting garri.

No its fine, but how can those trebs prevent you attack of their garison?
Trebs placed there are more like defensive trebs, they cant save bay or hills or gari. So yes while I understand that might be exploit, its hardy some gamebreaking issue.
Other thing would be invulnerable spot at hills/bay/gari which can be used against enemy attackers. But having defensive trebs at citadel which cannot be flipped? Not gamebreaking.

I see your not to familiar with strategy, thats ok

Hule.8794:

Ok i get that it might be a problem, but seriously, oyu are camping their northern towers so hard they cant even use Siegerazer and thus are forced to build trebs in citadel to reflip their towers?

we were trying to attack their garrison, is that not allowed anymore? When map blobs and siege all over the place is what your facing its common to take a north tower before hitting garri.

Hamster.4861:

third post about TC exploiting like this in a few weeks. They must be getting rekt.

to be fair Ive seen all 3 servers in my tier doing this in that area, tc just took it to the extreme, they were doing it with their zerg there all night even with an anet person standing right there lol, and again tonight. I personally dont build siege in that kind of area because I dont know if its legal or not and I would rather not risk my account hence why I tried to ask GM proheals, but unfortunately he never replied.

tc doing it again right now same place

t4 servers have a high chance of being bumped up to t3 for a week and matched up with one of the 4 t2 servers which blob a lot, so t3/4 is kinda messy atm. You might want to consider a bronze server, there are a lot of havok/roaming groups and less blobs, not that it doesnt happen, just less then in the higher tiers, and usually no queues

+1 to removing immob stacking, one of the dumbest ideas ever implemented

I think they should, its ridiculous for Anet to call a section of a jp a gvg place. Especially considering it was the core pvp mode in gw1. Personally I never bother with OS, nothing for me there, I do wvw on bl’s and eb, but if people are going to abuse farming in OS like the way they are, they gotta change something and that includes giving gvg a real place

GvG needs a real place, not a section of a jp

why not just give each server its own instance of OS, or just make it nonhostile, do away with the farming and the troll ganking parties in there at the same time, maybe more people might actually like doing the jp

yep I was there in the tower, tc was doing this all night, ironically an anet person (wont say who but I know which) was with them the whole time and their zerg was too, basically everyone was in on it, and they still kept doing it. We managed to take down their siege a couple times, but they had found a certain safe spot where we could not counter it. I also mailed GM proheals about this awhile ago, but he hasnt replied, oh well guess he caught all the cheaters and hackers and mission accomplished or something.

they would be absolutely insane to make this possible in wvw/pvp, I cant see this ever being changed for wvw/pvp

Skill lag is horrible for yet another night in wvw, wth is going on guys, everything on my screen is rubberbanding, skills arent working, fps is dropping again, fix this crap already

Garambola.2461:

The point was not to entertain you. It was to test how the content behaves under pressure.

We were asked in the email to post our thoughts here, and thats what we are doing

Andred.1087:

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Con’s
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-utility skills come in a set of 3 tied to legendary, limits build variety

And build variety in other professions is any better? Last I checked you pretty much have 2 or 3 good options for utility loadout on just about any class. With Revenant at least you don’t even have to think about it.

if you dont like having choice in builds, and not having to think about it thats your business, some people actually like to craft their own builds and decide what skills to use. And every other profession has like 20 utility skills to choose from as well as different healing/elite skills. With revenant everything is tied to the legendary and there is no variety

it was the first beta, and basically a stress test so I wasnt expecting much, actually finished everything in 20-30mins with the starting mission, after that there is like 3 events with the wyvern fight. Main issue I have is with the revenant

Played it for an hour, heres what I thought

Pro’s
-great skins for gear
-some of the events were fun, the more battles the better
-storyline was interesting, and your toon talks
-map looked nice

Con’s
-activation times to long for weapons
-incomplete trait list and only celestial set available, with only 2 weapon sets available made it feel very weak and left much to be desired
-Skills descriptions are very long and often confusing
-to much condi damage on revenant which is terrible for pve
-utility skills come in a set of 3 tied to legendary, limits build variety
-Wyvern fight was lackluster, all you have to do is basically equip hammer and range it
-gliding, no controls for it

it happens everywhere, every server is guilty of it, whether its organized or oppurtunistic it happens. Playing the victim card and acting ignorant while engaging in it is just ridiculous and makes your server look bad.

because Mishi its that old immature attitude, its ok when we do it, but not ok when they do it to us. And if Im not there its not happening <.<

Bristingr.5034:

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So when JQ was attacking us last night, and TC’s blob came into our garri at the same time, its ok when you do it right? When TC and JQ both attacked our bay tonight, it was ok right? Dude get over yourself, I know people in TC like to think of themselves as the nice server, but your server is as guilty of this crap as anyone else. And stop coming on the forums to qq about it and seek sympathy. We dont come here and say of one server is attacking us, the other server should stay off the map, are you for real? We should stay off the map because JQ is attacking you? What about when your SE blob double teams us everynight “conveniently” at the same time JQ’s blob gets on our BL, you hear us complain about it?

And OMG we took hills, how dare we. Who does BG think it is trying to capture something and not drop in rank or ratings, did you seriously think that one through?

The only thing I heard about that was that we took BG’s Garri for several hours last week or Sunday or something… However, I never got on WvW this evening, so I have no idea what went on. I mostly do sentrying stuff when I am on though, so I never know what the Blobs are doing half the time.

Lastly, quit being JQ’s kitten sometime and fight back against them for once. Your server is literally the butt of T1 (maybe even T2) jokes about being JQ’s whipped kitten.

Wow convenient isnt it, none of that happens when your not on right? And maybe try following your zergs sometime since you dont know what they are doing, clearly your mostly scouting. And there ya go, another qq thread about oh this server is being mean and not playing how I want them to so they are bad. And insults like that are a great way to get your thread closed, if you dont like getting the truth, dont come here to complain and act ignorant.

Bristingr.5034:

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This is a joke thread right? Cant count how many times I watched jq and tc run by each other and not fight. BG was double teamed all night yesterday by both tc and jq at the same time so please stop with the hypocrisy and playing the false we’re the victim card. TC is as guilty as anyone else of any double teaming and dirty tricks.

As far as your suggestion goes, have you even thought it through for more then a second? There are pvx/pve guilds that exist, and there is a megaserver system, all guild upgrades are cross server now. Your idea has no practical or technical substance whatsoever, its just based on emotions.

How is it ok when TC does this crap to others, but its baaaaaad when its done to them? If you hate it so much, target that guild. Ive posted here many times about the reputation TC has among JQ and BG. TC’s havok/roamers are trolling gankers who engage in the most childish and pathetic behavior, yes every server has this, but TC takes the cake. And stop hiding behind tons of siege, I swear we let you guys spend 5mins in a tower and theres 2 trebs, 3 acs, 2 balistas that go almost instantly it seems.
PPT siege creep tactics are not popular with anyone. Also your constant rushes to build waypoints for whatever reason are going to bring blobs to attack it because it will trigger defense and that means fights.

I’m from TC. I have no idea what the kitten you’re talking about. You guys taking Hills today was proof that you’re trying to keep BG in T1. JQ on the cata wall, BG was on the South Gate. Once BG broke down the inner wall, JQ just backs off. 2 vs 1 much?

I see this way too kitten often as TC gets screwed over hard. BG can’t seem to do anything without JQ, which is why if JQ would quit protecting their kitten, we’d actually be able to see FA move up and replace BG.

BG’s “QQ” guild is kittening notorious for ganking only TC players. And we have the wonderful JQ spy that loves to screw over our seige, and troll us… it’s almost his full time job.

TC has every right to play the victim card because it’s kittening true. And there’s nothing wrong with building Waypoints in Keeps.

So when JQ was attacking us last night, and TC’s blob came into our garri at the same time, its ok when you do it right? When TC and JQ both attacked our bay tonight, it was ok right? Dude get over yourself, I know people in TC like to think of themselves as the nice server, but your server is as guilty of this crap as anyone else. And stop coming on the forums to qq about it and seek sympathy. We dont come here and say of one server is attacking us, the other server should stay off the map, are you for real? We should stay off the map because JQ is attacking you? What about when your SE blob double teams us everynight “conveniently” at the same time JQ’s blob gets on our BL, you hear us complain about it?

And OMG we took hills, how dare we. Who does BG think it is trying to capture something and not drop in rank or ratings, did you seriously think that one through?

I didnt agree with the change for various reasons, but I adapted like many others have and Im still having a lot of fun in wvw. I like seeing large guild groups dropping like flies because they can no longers stack and abuse stability and go through all the cc’s and damage while taking little to no damage like before. Its easy to see which players/guilds have not adapated to the change, and personally speaking it hasnt affected me all that much because I never stacked stability so it was easier for me to adapt. I used it situationally, when needed.

In the past you had what I call the “staredown meta” groups basically faked pushes going back and forth trying to get the enemy to blow their long cd skills before attacking all the while stacking stability and never pushing unless it was stacked up. It was boring as hell because it would just go on forever a lot of times. Even with the pirateship meta, which is not as common as many would think, its still better that players are actually attacking and not just moving back and forth stacking boons.

The bigger problem has been the ridiculous rise in usage of arrow carts since the camera change, its like eotm in wvw, every fight, the enemy builds arrow carts, its getting pathetic.

it really depends on how you play, group composition (if your in one that is), saffron bread is always nice I find and its really cheap to make, the saffron is easy to farm in orr

This is a joke thread right? Cant count how many times I watched jq and tc run by each other and not fight. BG was double teamed all night yesterday by both tc and jq at the same time so please stop with the hypocrisy and playing the false we’re the victim card. TC is as guilty as anyone else of any double teaming and dirty tricks.

As far as your suggestion goes, have you even thought it through for more then a second? There are pvx/pve guilds that exist, and there is a megaserver system, all guild upgrades are cross server now. Your idea has no practical or technical substance whatsoever, its just based on emotions.

How is it ok when TC does this crap to others, but its baaaaaad when its done to them? If you hate it so much, target that guild. Ive posted here many times about the reputation TC has among JQ and BG. TC’s havok/roamers are trolling gankers who engage in the most childish and pathetic behavior, yes every server has this, but TC takes the cake. And stop hiding behind tons of siege, I swear we let you guys spend 5mins in a tower and theres 2 trebs, 3 acs, 2 balistas that go almost instantly it seems.
PPT siege creep tactics are not popular with anyone. Also your constant rushes to build waypoints for whatever reason are going to bring blobs to attack it because it will trigger defense and that means fights.

did you try closing and restarting the launcher

oh thats a shame

its fixed now, able to login again

getting the same problem, cant load any toons, on any maps, seriously wth is going on last night the lag got so bad wvw was unplayable now I cant even log in. What in the world did that last update do

There was a short spike, but they dropped back down, its only useful for frontline in certain team compositions where you can get quick condi cleanses, same with hoelbrak runes. Power/damage based gear is still top dog in wvw

WvW was one of the main reasons I finally decided to get the game. I could never really get into pvp because its to small and limiting, but the open world feel and limitless options for gameplay opened up by wvw really appealed to me. Its the most fun Ive ever had in a game.

points of interests are helpful for pinging in chat to indicate where something is being attacked, or to indicate where to go. Those things also give some exp to players who come across them. WvW mapping was removed as a requirement for world completion, you can still do w/e mapping you want much the same as with any new pve maps such as southsun, drytop, and silverwastes, but without a reward for mapping them.

Although I havent supported the change, for various reasons and I have called it for what it is a nerf plain and simple, not a balance change. After being in tons of fights since I can say on the positive side it has been fun watching guild groups dropping like flies because they can no longer stack and abuse stability.

We may have some of the pirateship meta now, but before we had what I call the
“Staredown meta” where groups just basically stacked stability and faked pushes, going back and forth trying to get the enemy group to blow their cds before attacking, which was really boring as hell and could just go on forever.

Basically whats done is done, just have to adapt and get on with it, many of us dont like it but try to make the best of it at least.

Tonight there has been horrible lag and skill lag in wvw, please fix this because it is becoming unplayable

will the new maps be playable in the beta tests?

yea the ac usage has gotten out of control, the camera changes which essentially legalized zoom hacking has made ac use much easier which has given more incentive for people to use them. In all honesty there needs to be something done because its getting abused to hell

same here, it resets on toon switches as well, the slider remains in place but the zoom reverts to the old look, have to move the slider around to fix it.

well goshdarnit Mishi now you hurt my feelings thinking Im trying to bring some qq/drama into this thread lol, nah I just thought it was funny constantly seeing JQ building ac’s everytime we run into them, still not as bad as tc, let them spend 5 mins in a tower and theres a couple trebs, acs, balistas etc

IMPS vs FIRE vs KOGS wouldnt that be fun?

um guys…why has jq been humping more siege then tc lately? like seriously wth lol

@axolotl, I will respectfully ask that you do not look at my thoughts in black and white views, and attempt to jump to consequences in regards to whether or not I want SoR to rise or fall, live or die, etc I am merely engaging in a dicussion. My recent posts were more based on the last 2 years and how SoR has dealt with success and the friction between the wvw community and GSCH and others.

The main problem as I see it, is essentially the sentimental attachment to a server. Heres why, as a server rises in ranks and tiers it will find itself needing to gain coverage and expand its wvw community, failure to do so results in frustration and friction in the server, this has happened many times on sor, been through it myself. If the server gains coverage the wvw community has to step up more which will cause friction with, mainly GSCH because of their sentimental attachment to SoR because they will feel like they cannot do what they want to, ask anyone about the t1 days when the wvw guilds asked GSCH not even to participate in wvw, I was there, I didnt agree with it, but I can tell you about it.

Please try to understand I am not rooting against SoR, it was painful watching the fall and multiple exoduses, being through all that, trying to rebuild, I wouldnt wish that on any server. I am just pointing it out, something to keep in mind. My main reason for leaving was I wanted a more competitive wvw environment, I love t1 because its always active, bronze was ok for awhile but got boring to often. But some love it which is perfectly fine, just not for me. Also this post is not meant to place blame on GSCH, they are a great community with lots of great and generous people, I havent always agreed with everything they have done, but I admire them regardless. In fact the story of the naming of the server was one of the main reasons I transfered to SoR when I was just starting the game, it was a touching tribute.

well thats prob the biggest issue for sor currently because the higher up the the tiers the more competitive it gets, and more so with seasons. This will cause problems with those, especially in GSCH who prefer the more casual wvw setting, and never got along with the more hardcore wvw’ers. If sor goes to high it will basically self destruct again because its will have an essential identity crisis like before. And @axo I spent 22months on SoR I know the server and many people there very very well, which is why I said what I did. Some of my previous posts were not intended to be set in that tone, but the posts made by some other people kind of angered me to the point where my tone was less then civil, but hey how many of us never did that.