Guild Wars 2

Bug fixes are not content, they are fixing mistakes that Anet made.

This leaves:

Guild missions
5 clicky objects and 1 portal (“living story”)
1 new sPvP map
Ascended earrings/amulets
1 dungeon revamp

If that is what they consider an expansion worth of content I sure hope their actual expansions will cost $1.99 or less because that’s about the maximum value i’d give what they’ve done so far.

If I had to say what an “expansion worth of content” meant to me. Taking into account the fact they said no new zones/races/weapons/etc… I would expect something along the lines of:

ALL dungeons revamped
WvW revamped and added rewards
Scaling of ALL events upgraded
New PvP mode, no more of this same old same old
An actual living story event

Now it sounds like they do intend to do some of that in the next few months so they might still keep their promise. But so far it has been very very underwhelming.

Ruprect.7260:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Most of the problem will go away when they ban the guesting exploiters.

This^^^^

Getting another chest by guesting, I dont think is intended.

Yeah I don’t know how anyone could think:

Oh man Anet only wants us to get 1 chest/char/day

But hey if we use guesting we can get an unlimited number of chests per day!

Is something they intended.

Most of the problem will go away when they ban the guesting exploiters.

Confusion is way UNDER powered. It needs a serious buff. No one uses confusion for anything in PvE because it sucks hard.

10x the duration and a 50% damage increase would put it on par with other conditions.

I could care less about PvP, as could most of the players. They should balance things for what people do most.

Once they ban all the guesting exploiters the prices will stabilize. I just hope they ban them soon, they are really annoying.

Half my guild got locked out of events tonight and another guild on my server couldn’t get their guild to a bounty mission due to guests.

They are swarming my server (JQ) and using the popular guesting exploit to gain more chests from dragon events.

Guests should automatically be moved into overflow servers if the population maxes out. A server resident should never miss something on his own server or with their own guild because swarms of guests want more loot.

In fact you shouldn’t be able to guest onto full servers at all. If a server is full then it should be FULL, not full except for guests who ruin your play time. Guesting should be something you do to spread out the population, not something to cause 40-50 second ability lag.

blanketfreak.8913:

To all the people that say suck it up its only 40 crafting items. I hope next month daily has 500 WvW kills and 100 spvp kills to complete it and watch who cries…..

yes because crafting 35 seconds worth of items is totally the same as spending 100+ hours in WvW….

It takes me longer to LOAD into WvW then it did to finish the crafting part of the monthly

Troll harder

I’ve dumped about 500k into these boxes and still no priest for me… maybe I should wait to do the next 500k all at once, might get better results.

I’m sorry that my bad luck streak completely derailed this thread… That was not my original intent…

I’m going to feebly attempt to get this thread back on track:

Ectos seem to be coming down pretty fast at this point. Since John kindly pointed out that the average salvage rate for ectos (would love to know if this rate is the kit rate or some completely separate rate) is on average over millions of salvages then we can assume that ectos will keep dropping for a while.

As a side note I sat on the TP and watched ecto sales for about 10 minutes. I’m pretty sure the number traded is in the 100’s per second. It was ridiculous.

If I had to make a final guess I would say ectos will bottom out at around 25s. Anything below 29s would be profitable for me though so hopefully we reach that point at least.

There is really no need for one anymore. Anyone can get a group in 30 seconds using gw2lfg.com

Considering it has a wonderful mobile app, I don’t even need to alt-tab out of the game to get a group.

What really needs to be done is for a 3-person kick system to to implemented. The real problem is that 2 people can kick anyone they want out of the group. Also they should prevent kicks during combat. These two changes alone would solve 90% of the issues.

People have been asking for large scale group content over and over and over since the game launched.

Anet is simply granting player requests. If you don’t like it then take it up with the millions of players in large guilds who asked for this.

The total posts in every thread complaining about small guilds equals the number of people in my ONE guild who like these changes. Considering there are dozens if not hundreds of these large guilds I think it is safe to say they are doing what the majority of players want.

Graybes.8251:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

If you are looking for a list of chests that got improved loot with this patch they are as follows:

1. Jormag
2. Shatterer
3. Sunless
4. Maw
5. Shadow Bohemoth
6. Fire Elemental
7. Grenth
8. Lyssa
9. Balth
10. Dwyana
11. Melendu
12. Arah
13. Zho’qafa Catacombs

these are also the ones that can only be done once a day as they are guaranteed to drop at least 1 rare with an average of about 2 rares based on my personal experience.

If anyone knows of any other chest that got improved loot please let me know so I can add it to the list.
Note: Megadestroyer did NOT get improved loot and still only drops a couple blues.

Oh man thank you so much for this list! So how exactly did you get this list and how come things like the jungle wurm and harathi overlord isn’t on there? I’m not saying I don’t trust your list because the events you listed seem to be the big ones that obviously got the buff and turned into the once a day thing. but how come not jungle wurm or harathi overlord or even megadestroyer? These chests weren’t buffed? How come?

The reason they aren’t on the list is because i haven’t checked them out yet. These are the ones that I have personally done and can assure people have improved rewards. I know mega wasn’t buffed because I tried it twice and got crap as did everyone else. If someone has tried jungle wurm or overlord since the patch let me know what you got. I’ll try to hit the rest of the “big” events this week at some point.

As to why certain chests weren’t buffed you’ll have to ask Anet.

Is there a reason small guilds can’t run the events with big guilds? I mean the whole point of having them in the persistent world is that everyone can participate right?

If you aren’t big enough to have the influence you don’t need the guild merits so you can just do all the missions and get all the rewards from larger guilds running them.

There is really no good reason to take away the one long term goal that large guilds have been given just so small guilds can feel good about themselves. Small guilds can still participate and still get the rewards from these missions they just can’t get the prestige of being a big guild unless they are a big guild.

If you are looking for a list of chests that got improved loot with this patch they are as follows:

1. Jormag
2. Shatterer
3. Sunless
4. Maw
5. Shadow Bohemoth
6. Fire Elemental
7. Grenth
8. Lyssa
9. Balth
10. Dwyana
11. Melendu
12. Arah
13. Zho’qafa Catacombs

these are also the ones that can only be done once a day as they are guaranteed to drop at least 1 rare with an average of about 2 rares based on my personal experience.

If anyone knows of any other chest that got improved loot please let me know so I can add it to the list.
Note: Megadestroyer did NOT get improved loot and still only drops a couple blues.

It is per character per day, and resets with the daily. Tested this with my alt.

I’ve noticed the exact opposite. People all let each other know when the events are going on, give 5 minute warnings, tell their guilds.

We have big dance parties waiting for the events, the compare weapons, share notes on where we got them, talk about builds. The world is bursting with people and everyone is very social.

In fact we had so many people show up for SB last night that queensdale went into overflow and not everyone could get in.

I got my entire daily done in 1 20 minute world event yesterday. The daily is just an extra reward you get for playing the game normally for 20 minutes.

Ascended rings can now be obtained from fractals and dailies, and pretty much everyone and their brother has them already, hardly a “grind”.

If they didn’t restrict world bosses to 1 chest a day people would just farm them non-stop until the economy was destroyed and items had no meaning. Trust me, you’d like that game a lot less.

I got my entire daily done in 1 20 minute world event yesterday. The daily is just an extra reward you get for playing the game normally for 20 minutes.

Ascended rings can now be obtained from fractals and dailies, and pretty much everyone and their brother has them already, hardly a “grind”.

If they didn’t restrict world bosses to 1 chest a day people would just farm them non-stop until the economy was destroyed and items had no meaning. Trust me, you’d like that game a lot less.

All I know is that every time i used up a BLK before this patch I ended up with 20-30 ectos. I’ve probably used up 10-15 kits since launch and every time was the same. Patch hits and I get 10 ectos between a kit and a half. (luck improved very slightly after my really bad run).

This seems to be to be very out of the ordinary. I’ve had very consistent average results and as a result I kept buying kits. Now i’m certainly not going to buy any more until this gets worked out. If it was just crappy luck then it’s crappy luck to you guys at Anet that you won’t be getting any more of my money. I’ll stick to cheap kits I can buy ingame if I wanted crap luck.

Svarty.8019:

Yes they should drop like a stone with all the rares from world events, but I’m on an epic run of 0 ectos from master salvage kits atm. I hate RNG.

I’m not sure it’s RNG… I have a run of 1 ecto from 25 uses of BLK’s… that has a chance of:

0.000003% chance of happening… seems unlikely it’s due to RNG. I think they may have nerfed ecto drop rates to compensate for the increased drops. So ecto prices might not plummet as much as I originally thought.

The fact is for the majority to be happy with these guild missions you need 1 guild of 500 people for every 100 guilds of 5 people. I’ve talked to about half a dozen 500 member guilds and they said all their members are THRILLED with this addition of large scale content.

The real problem here is that the minimum size for a guild is much too small. There should be a 10 member minimum like in some other MMO’s. 5 people is not a guild, it is a group of friends. A guild is a group of people banding together for a common purpose and to pool resources.

The vast majority of people are in very large guilds (50+ members) and this new content is geared towards them. There is nothing stopping you from doing this content with the larger guilds and getting individual credit for it. But please stop trying to water down our first large group content that actual guilds have waited months for with some crap instant gratification version.

Just goes to show you, people will literally complain about anything!

Love the changes Anet, I can get my daily done without going out of my way at all now. At least the play your way fanatics will finally have to shut up.

Could you be more specific on what you mean? I think this patch went a long way in improving the game. If they keep up this direction then this game is going to be great for years to come.

They expanded the rewards for all major events in the game (grind reduction)
They made qualifying for loot on kills much easier (grind reduction)
They revamped AC to have more mechanics and less zerg (fun increase)
They added things for guilds to do together

They seem to be following their manifesto pretty much to the letter. Their only mistake was waiting 2 months to add ascended gear. If they added it at launch exactly the same as it is now no one would have started a single thread about it.

Confirmed to be reset with dailies. I did Jormag right before dailies reset and then again 3 hours later and got loot both times.

I think the people who are whining about this change have not actually logged in and have no idea what it means.

World events are EXPLODING. they are people everywhere doing them. There are over 10 world events that are effected by this. You can do EACH of those events once per day and they have 100% chance to drop at least 1 rare.

I managed to get 25 rares from doing 3 hours of world events last night. This change is Amazing!

Also it is character based. If you have an 80 alt that means 6 hours a day of world events if you so choose. with a constant flow of rares.

I suspect they will eventually drop back down to about 15s based on the chest changes.

You can do every world boss in about 3 hours if you hit all the timers. There are 10 world bosses give or take a few. Each chest drops a minimum of 1 rare, with 2-3 rares being the average. After 3 hours last night I walked away with 25 rares and 2 exotics. That’s with just doing boss events on 1 character. I could also park my lvl 80 alts at the faster respawning events and get even more.

Before today I would be lucky to get 1 rare from the same sequence… I think it is safe to say ectos are doing to plummet HARD.

oh good maybe i’ll stop hearing… oh sry we don’t need a thief we have spykit warriors/guardians, wth would we want a thief for?

It is clearly a bug. Just report it ingame and in the bug forums so that it gets fixed quickly.

You do get extra rewards. You get 20 extra achievement points and an extra 30k xp.

If they gave you anything else people would be crying bloody murder about how they were “forced” to do all 9 and how it isn’t fair because they can only play 12 minutes a day and should be given all the same rewards.

Between guild missions and the meta event chest fix pen/shelters days were already over. In my 2 hours of play last night I managed to get 20 rares by running around and doing every meta event that popped up. Once I throw guild missions into that rotation I will get even more rares.

I think this new scaling algorithm would be a massive improvement for 99% of the events in the game. I think the 1% of events that don’t benefit from it are the ones they chose to test it on. These are farming events that people do to make money. They don’t want fun and exciting they want mindless and boring with lots of loot.

Yeah I know right. why can’t they do it like every other MMO where they test it for weeks and weeks on a PTS and then have 16-18 hours of downtime on patch day and then have the patch launch for 2 hours then have the servers crash.

Stupid Anet, please try to be more like SWTOR, we need more downtime and crashing please!

The nerve of them… making us restart our clients… jerks..

Since the patch BL salvage kits seem to be broken. I burned through a whole kit and did not receive a single ecto. Given a 50% chance per salvage this means this should not happen, especially since I spent $3 for this kit.

I generally purchase these fairly regularly, but I won’t be buying anymore of these until they are fixed.

It only takes 2 weeks doing guild missions. Not sure why they are so expensive on the laurel vendor, but they are easy to get from guild missions.

The revamped AC was a lot more fun then it used to be. I hope they revamp the rest of the dungeons like this!

Ok first off it really isn’t leeching to play with different guilds.

Secondly you can only get the personal rewards once per week regardless of how many guilds you are a part of so I’m not even sure what you are talking about.

It is… “connection error detected: retrying” MB

I have the same thing

Borikitty.1302:

What is a person who doesn’t have that unlocked in their own guild helps kill some other guild’s bounty once it’s been engaged? They get nothing for their guild correct?

Correct, they will get the personal reward (I think?) but not any credit for the guild. the only guild credit you get comes from completing the missions currently active for your guild.

Blackwolfe.5649:

It was said that for some guild mission non-guildies can participate and get a personal reward.. so.. was this a lie?

Once a bounty mission is done, can you do that tier again for those who missed it the first time or can I join in on another guilds bounty mission once they stareted engaging the mob and receive a personal reward (for that week)?

the key word there was START. once the enemy is engaged he becomes attackable by everyone. This is to prevent non-guild people from killing the NPC before the guild can even get to it.

well besides the fact that there is a 1 week research time so no one will be doing any missions the first day, it is also limited to 1 reward for each mission type per week. Regardless of how many guilds you are in.

Players: Art of War is worthless, our guild doesn’t PvP, why don’t you make useful things in the upgrade trees!

Anet: Sure, here is a long term highly rewarding content tree that gives lots of progression and makes the Art of War tree useful for everyone!

Players: You SUCK anet, how dare you put PvE content in the art of war tree! AND you want us to WORK FOR IT!!?!?!?! you double suck!

rizzo.1079:

Hey nice, my guild really is hardlocked out of all the new content. And here I was happy that we’d been able to grind up another 2.5k in the last week. Great job of making me not care about this living storyline, A.net.

those are two completely separate things that are in no way shape or form related to each other.

if you didn’t want any of those things why did you make so many boxes?

If you made them for the keys, why didn’t you buy the keys at the same time you made the boxes?

I don’t understand why you would spend time and money to make a ton of something and then come here complaining you have a bunch of these worthless things…

Soulmyr.8094:

Can someone explain to me why these new items cost more than already existing laurel ascended stuff? Are the stats better or what?

It is for the Accessory (earring) slots. These are the first items for those slots. You can primarily earn them from guild missions, this is an alternative and more expensive version for people who don’t want to do guild missions.

Please don’t change this. Yes this large scale content is harder for small guilds to access, but that is ok. We need larger scale content.

My guild of 500 is very excited for this content and progression. The vast majority of players like this chance at progression and large scale content. Please don’t ruin it to satisfy the small minority of small guilds.

Hule.8794:

10g a day? Get RL.

I don’t understand. Are people actually claiming that you can’t earn 10g in an average play session?

I play about an hour a day, and that is enough time to earn about 5g when I keep all the ectos I salvage. Putting me close to 6g an hour.

I can also run Cof which is also about 6g an hour with more of the profits shifted towards ectos.

I don’t think 2 hours of play for 10g is unreasonable, nor do I think that is some outrageous goal for a 10 person guild. I guess i’m having a very very hard time trying to figure out why this is a problem for small guilds because it really just isn’t.

You can actually buy ascended amulets for 12 Guild Token things and 5g.

That is equivalent to about 2 days of work if you have a guild that can access guild missions. So it isn’t as big a deal as people are making it out to be. These are just a longer harder alternative for stubborn people who won’t join a guild in a game called GUILD wars.

ok, bye?

If it took you 6 months to figure out you didn’t like the game then I’d call that a pretty good game personally.
Also every game ever released in all of gaming history has gone on sale within six months of release so i’m not really sure what you are implying…

Also this is an MMO, it is the most solo friendly MMO in existence. It is the only MMO I know of that you can get the highest tier gear from doing only solo activities.

This is obviously a faked SS. You can’t even HAVE 75 laurels yet, not for quite a while actually. Plus Ecto’s aren’t a currency, I highly doubt they would make them into one as they are already used for too many things as it is.

Mrowqa.3861:

It would be more clear to just state it like this

NA – 26th
EU – 27th

because If they say that patch is 26th most People, and most common sense tell You that patch should go Live on 26th. So EU should have patch midday Accordin to EU timezone and not wait whole day – while wasting that day because we don’t get patch and have to wait for NA to kick in.

I would love to see this working other way. Forcing NA to wait 1 more day for patch while EU would have it faster. Guess americans have to be first and put thier terms on everything :>

It’s not that I have something against waiting ! I just want to see those patch notes already

I think maybe you should do some reading on Time Zones… The patch launches at the exact same time for everyone in the world. No one has to wait longer then anyone else…