Guild Wars 2

Dranul.2094:

Never again will I find myself bored in our old style of play – thats fo sure.

HaHa, you are indeed the boss of arrow carts, and how effective you were… props to you ^^

Hope to meet TUP again with a wall of ac

Reborn.2934:

3. they always laugh up from the dead body even they are outnumber the enemy

Unfortunately bad behavior is something that seems to be server independent. On sunday for example i experienced the same with a gigantic zerg from AG. Also many other things you wrote like staying in keeps even in equal or greater numbers i saw with both AG and AM. So everything is dependent on your personal point of view i guess.

Twinklefairy.6739:

dw, teach your countrymen how to fight, it’s kind of pathetic.

Well, everybody has a different understanding what fun is. For some people it is the open field and for some it is controlling objects. So the only thing that is important is to adapt your strategy to the actions of the enemy as you only have control over your own actions and not about somebody else´s, be it friend or foe.

Amelia Knox.9362:

Anyways Thank Druckwelle to accepted my gvg request i’ll try to make my people come 1 hour earlier and will have a nice fight

Ah nice to hear that, unfortunately due to my job i can not participate. Good Luck, i think it will be fun.

Karahol.9840:

So, it’s better to try and not abuse its mechanisms than wait for fixes that may or may not happen (due to technicla restrictions also).

Well of course you can try that, and also you can ask people not to blob but i don´t believe that it will happen. Not as long as Arenanet makes it so rewardable and effective to do it. I guess most of the people are playing WvW for points and server rank, which is perfectly fine, and there has to be done something by game design to split up the zerg. As long as you can achieve your goal with just outnumbering the enemy, it will be done.

Had a mixed evening yesterday starting at AM BL. No resistance at all, we took towers we took keeps but nobody showed up. Tried RS BL but infamous queue hit us. Changed to AG BL for the rest of the evening where we found opponents, to be honest plenty of them. Unfortunately no guild groups but big and sometimes very big zergs from both servers. So we had to change our strategy here and there a bit from “Jump in and try to win” to “Jump in and try to survive” which worked out, well, at least most of the times. We also discovered a new mini game, “Snipe out the legendary bearer” which was fun, so if you own a legendary, watch out ^^.

@All

Funny how all the accusations are the same, only the server is exchangeable. Maybe the truth is that every server blobs, every server cheats and every server hides from time to times. Imo Arenanet is very lucky that WvW players seem to be different than SPvP players. WvW players are so busy accusing each other, maybe this time would be better invested in demanding bug fixes, performance improvements and new features from Arenanet for the game mode we are all so excited about. With that said, we are all in the same boat, respect yourself, respect your enemy.

Karahol.9840:

As for fights, i liked one highlight yesterday of AM fighting RS [dw] guild on AM borderland.
2 groups of AM, 1 PuG based with commander and 20 and 1 ADAC guild with another 20 (non-guildies included) in order to bring down [dw] guild.

Yeah it was a hell of a fight, most thrilling fight of the evening for me. Shoutout to everyone who participated.

And for the Records, many times i read “The Germans…” or “German servers…” Neither AM nor RS are German servers, they are German language servers which is something different. There are also people from Austria, Switzerland and other countries with german language playing on it.

Thanks for the fight´s on AM Borderlands yesterday. Had a few outmanned situations which used to be very intense and in times the enemy managed to leave keeps or arrow cart range it was fun.

But there were also times where it seemed that people were only sitting in their keeps and waiting. Of course it´s a valid strategy to do that and everything, but it´s soooooooo boring, really. So special thanks to everybody who left the relatively safety of objects and fought.

@TUP

missed you guy´s yesterday, would have been fun

kribre.9683:

@draugris I ofc. know that, but dont blame it on us for 1 picture, when we do it 3 out of 10 times, while a lot of others does it 9 out of 10 times.

Creds to NOX last night at RS border, was fun running into you guys

I don´t blame anybody. And please don´t count who does it how often or another useless screen shot war will start, come on relax. Again it´s open PvP and you can not order somebody to go away, so why bothering. Sometimes you have more people and sometimes the enemy, there is nothing you can do about it. By design there are no fair fights in wvw (except GvG maybe in their own way).

kribre.9683:

@draugris at that night, werever we went, we always found ZORN handholding you, you guys might now have seen it, but they were always right behind u. And in the 3 hours we were running at that borderland, we never ever found one of you alone Simple as that

I am not sure want you want to try to tell me. Yes it might be that somebody followed us, we do not encourage anybody to do that. But we also do not send allies away so i´am sorry if we used to be a larger group but it´s open PvP and those things happen.

kribre.9683:

At that picture we just gatherud up 1 time, because ZORN was running hands with dw Was mainly just NP and FURY fighting u guys, think TUP came two times because there was nobody else on the map unfortunately.

Just because you see people with more than 1 Guild Tag does not necessarily mean that they run together. It´s open PvP and from time to time you meet people on the battlefield.

Reztek.7805:

Typical TUP: Showing up and joining the zerg when the other server has outmanned

No, we met those guys for example yesterday several times alone.

Shoutout to TUP, thx for the fight´s.

Wamgor.9347:

Germans servers are really too point Obsessed/fixated…

There are at least some Guilds that don´t do this as you might know ^^

Jski.6180:

So what should stealth not mean stealth then? What is broken with the game if stealth is doing what stealth should be doing?

Stealth is the most dumbest mechanic in GW2 by far. It is simply fire and forget. You do not have to care about positioning, enemies can look in your face disappearing. damage does not knock you out of stealth, there are no stats in GW2 which influence the chance you can reveal someone that is in stealth. I love GW2 but what they did with stealth is far behind the mechanics other games have.

ZStefanovic.2475:

And don’t get me wrong i don’t mean to offend you, its just too bad we get targeted by multiple guilds at once in open field.

Well to be honest why do you write disrespectful things if you do not want to offend somebody ? You do.

We do not run coordinated with other guilds but from time to time we meet on the battlefield. Sometimes unintended sometimes not when we come to help defending or attacking objectives.

I guess that´s the same for you, we also saw you run together with other guilds, TUP for example. So shall we also come to the Forums and whine about FURY not running alone bla bla bla ? No, because that would be untrue and offending.

Zelthios.5902:

If you’re running a condition build and you don’t have corrupt boon you’re doing something very wrong

Well i would not necessarily say that. It depend on what goal you have and what role you want or have to fulfill. If you want to run mainly alone looking for 1v1 or if you do small scale with a group i would say yes, corrupt boon is too good not to be taken. But if you run in a large squad you can be very effective with a well build (of course you have to swap out the golem for plague)

makku.2508:

I wonder when moderators will finally start to delete these worthless threads as soon as they pop up. There’s nothing of value in here, it always comes down to “omg our server sooooo good, we only have 1/4 of you guys but collect twice the bags, loooooooooooolz!!!” and “rofl stop blobbing you noob server!”.

Having a board that should be filled with constructive discussion about WvW being flooded with threads that contain nothing but rants, hack-accusations, provoking and self-adulation is highly annoying, to say the least.

Unfortunately they won´t. Some posts here are so full of pointless arrogance, it´s really pathetic.

And to the TUP guy above, Yes you got wiped a lot by the RS Zerg and while you have my respect for the decision to run alone, what do expect ? Do you think you are the only guild group where that happens ? When we run alone what do you think how often we got wiped by Piken Zergs, Baruch Zergs or yesterday later by Gandara and Aurora Zergs. Yes even if you do not want to hear it, your server blobs like every other server. To excuse this with “counter blobbing” is, sorry to say that, just ridiculous because when the RS blob split up your blob did not get smaller. Let´s face it, Gandara and AG blob for exact the same reason why RS and any other server is doing it, it is rewarding to do it pointwise and it is so because Arenanet encourages that by the mechanic in wvw. But of course it is always a comfortable excuse to blame others.

Dalure.4691:

@RS why run with 60+ i dont understand that..

Please read what Myrmi wrote if you want to understand. We do not have the same situation on RS like you guys on piken have. We do not have that number of organized large guild groups. Maybe 3 to 4 guilds can bring larger numbers. The rest are either very small guilds or people without guilds at all. So when a commander is coming to a BL or EB, guess what happens.

Also this complaining about blobbing is really getting old. Every server blobs at certain times and it´s a total valid play style, WvW in GW2 is meant to be played like that. Arenanet encourages that a lot. WvW is about organizing map population, like it or not. Does that mean that this is fun, no not at all. My guild for example likes it more to run around alone and looking for battles on the open field, that´s fun. But is it effective in terms of points and server rank ? Well most of the times not because we do not care too much about the keeps and stuff.

Awesome evening yesterday, died a lot, killed a lot. Shoutout to VII, GoW, HoB for being true sportsmen.

Great Video, fun to watch and proves that minion master builds work even without minions ^^

Well that´s what i call useful pet´s ^^ at least they are good observers. Maybe Arenanet will increase there value and give them an /applause and /buh emote

qweman.5298:

Respect to Riverside guilds DTK, RSC and dw. You are very strong guilds for T3 championship

Will definitly miss the fight´s with you guys and many others. Shoutouts also to VII, GoW, HoB, Necr and many others. You gave us a perfect mix of fun and headaches, that´s what wvw is all about.

What i won´t miss and i am really sorry that i have to say that, is the behavior of many Augury players. If you guys win a fight by outnumbering the enemy or when you chase somebody with ten people, well that´s not such a big accomplishment. So dancing on corps and laughing only shows that you are jerks and bad sportsmen over all. I´am sorry if you have bad feelings, but if we wiped your zerg, hey please don´t take that personal, it´s just a game.

Good Luck to everybody in your next pairing

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Just an fyi before we see people posting “OMG KISS using glitches, I’ve totally lost all respect for them now” type posts.

Thanks for clearing that up, but thankfully for such “lost respect” statements are other servers more well known than servers in our bracket

So why don´t you just report him to the support as you should ?
Namecalling is not allowed on the forums so this post will likely be deleted and you maybe infracted.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

If you want to bury your head in the sand be my guest, but i’m sure some of your people on RS are disgusted at the behaviour witnessed this morning. And from your TS i know the people that were on were very annoyed seeing as we got invited to your TS to discuss what happened and who was involved(this was after my post so i guess it did some good).

Please, don´t you get it ? If somebody is hacking, REPORT him to the support because the support is the only institution that can actually do something and impose a ban. Complaining on the forum does not help, also complaining in the chat does not help. Do you really believe that somebody who is cheating cares what i or anybody else is saying in the ingame chat ?

This has nothing to do with burying the head in the sand, it is just ineffective. I (and i´am sure others too) report Hackers regardless of what server they are on. I am sure you don´t believe this, but the people on RS just want to play like everybody else, so continue your crusade against us if you like, but it proves nothing and makes you only look like a bully.

Really i don´t know whats wrong with some of the PS players, only complaining about each and everything. How about stopping Forum PvP and getting back on the battle field.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Lost all respect for RS now

Really, the witchhunt some of you are into against RS is ridiciulous. Do you think Piken Square players don´t hack ? How often do you think we see some Piken players ninjaing keeps, flying, wallhacking etc. etc. It happens every time. So do yourself and everybody else a favor. Complain about this where somebody can do something about it and that is the support and not the forum. People who hack have to be removed from the game but the server community can not do anything about it.

Next time please post in that order:

1. thinking
2. writing

Zergs are neither a problem of riverside nor piken or augury. Zergs are a problem of guild wars 2 because this play style is very effective.

Endemonadia.8593:

NOTE: i did not see a single RS guild team running the last week. We only ever saw RS blobs with mixed guilds. Even DTK r not running as a guild, the only DTK ive seen is in amongst the monsterblobs.

That´s because usual Guild Teams on Riverside are ~5-10 people. Unfortunately in this matchup it is impossible to run alone in such numbers because the mega zergs from each server will just instantly eat you. DTK runs a a guild, for example yesterday i did see them. dw tried it yesterday, we were around 10 people but we ran constantly into blobs or sometimes organised guild groups of 15-20 people or more when they teamed up with other guilds. I don´t like that at all but there is nothing we can do about that as along as arenanet is encouraging the zergy playstyle that much.

Welcome Devon,

i have to say that i don´t envy you if you look at the current state of wvw. I hope that you aren´t a scary person when you think about the amount of work.

-Performance aka skill lag in high populated zones
- Usefulness of the commander function in regards to structure and communicate properly with the groups that build your squad. which leads automatically to→
- A useful raid or squad ui, come on, really every other game does that better
- Making small scale possible and useful. Right now the biggest mega blob wins and you encourage that play style.
- Equipment progression for ascendend gear.
- Class balance, i don´t even start talking about that because only this could fill pages as bad as it is now.

These are only a few examples. I wish you good luck and hopefully we see some results in the not to far future.

Endemonadia.8593:

Rs r truly kidding themselves if they think Piken play like this… i can assure u that Piken have created their biggest blobs theyve ever created this week, and thats for the sole reason that its the only way to compete against this RS monsterblobbing.

Please stop making a fool out of yourself. Zerging has a long tradition on Piken as on any server in higher tiers. Your statement is ridiculous.

OMG another night of Screen Shot Wars. That people from Piken are complaining about Zergs is, well, really refreshing at least. That´s the nature of WvW you know, so wipe your tears, stand up and fight. Next time you will outnumber everybody.

If you mean “Guardians of Yatagua”, they play on Riverside for a long Time as far as i know from release. They have also a long history in GW1.

OMG the OP made my day. Stealth is one of the more if not the most ridiculous mechanic in GW2. Please go on your knee and pray that the dev´s do not make stealth here like in other games where:

- Beeing hit in stealth knocks you out of it
- You can´t stealth while in combat
- You have to be aware where you stealth because you might be spotted

Stealth in GW2 is really such a f…..cking easy mode fire and forget mechanic that you should be thankful for it every single day.

I play a Power Necro and do just WvW. Imo if you want to roam around looking for fights on your own there are better choices available than a necro, roll a thief or an engie. But if you go for coordinated group, zerg fight´s the necro is great because you have so much useful utilities and aoe damage. The Wells alone are great and when you see 3 necros firing plague at once with chilling darkness in a enemy zerg, it´s devastating.

wookie.8934:

What I find truly hilarious is that the fear induced by Skull Fear is longer than any single fear that a necromancer can induce. GO FIGURE.

Yeah the stolen skill is two times longer than the original. That alone shows the ridiculousness of this whole steal mechanic. I play a power necro with lot´s of toughness / vit. and i don´t fight thiefes any more, i just bore them away. When they can´t kill me quick most of them just run away and the few that don´t, well a guildmate is never far from me and we make them regret that decision.

Birdflu.8120:

Maybe I’m a bit tired and more sensitive to this s**t than normal, but this kind of behaviour just makes me so darn-diddly-irritated.

Well if it is irritating for you maybe you should stop shooting at people with an invulnerability buff i guess. What do you expect from that guild ? When you are outnumbered you use what you have at your disposal. These safe spots exists since the beginning and as long as Arenanet decides that this shouldn´t be fixed (which they should imo) it will be used against opponents. So please stop to make it look like using an exploit and invest your time in adapting your strategy to deal with such a situation.

Donedusted.9846:

Check it out and keep it in mind in case you get fed up with your bleeds not fulfilling their damage potential! And have fun! Necro is great in wvw!

I can only second that. Even though this build is extremely gear dependend it is the most fun ever in wvw. I run a slightly modified version of it. Before i tried a lot of other things, conditionmancer, support builds with healing etc. but with this build i had the feeling to contribute. The AoE Damage is amazing while keeping survivability, you are getting a real necrotic bomb with all the marks, wells and life transference. If you want to check something new you should give it a try.

Yepp, that should be fixed. But on the other hand the buff is clearly shown, so maybe you should stop attacking an invulnerable player and simply go your way.

By the way, nice thread, really civil.

Good Feedback is already in the Forums regarding Bugs oder Tweaks which could improve the class or visibility of things. If Anet would be interested in getting stuff fixed for the Necro they already have the information. Well but it seems that they aren´t, so do yourself a favor and don´t waste your time.

Turx.6987:

Anyone else find the same thing?

Yes culling is horrible right now, it´s the same for everybody

We lost many players which transferred to Elona Reach. Yesterday i was really shocked when we fought on the Piken Map attacking Dreaming Bay. Even during prime time we got the outmanned buff occasionally, which is very unusual.

Ok let´s see,

1.) Thiefes get Pistol / Pistol buffed
2.) Rangers get Longbow Arrow speed buffed
3.) Rangers get their movement speed buffed

Oh wait that aren´t Necros, so what do i expect.

1.) Tooltip changes
2.) The Spear get´s it´s damage buffed for 1,5% to make that aquatic combat as awesome as it is
3.) Tutorial mode for Death Shroud
4.) Nothing as usual

But what does that prove ? If you have to be “one of the best players” to play a necro successful that only proves an absolute failure on Arenanet´s balancing team. The differences between the classes regarding the skill cap is so high, on one hand you have really difficult classes like the engineer and on the other hand thiefes which are one of the easier professions. There were many things promised by arenanet regarding the necro, build diversity has been promised, making death shroud more informative regarding boons and conditions has been promised. What has been delivered ? Nothing at all but lousy statements about learning death shroud. I don´t even speak about Bugs, there is a good sticky thread here regarding this. There is a reason why the Necro is underplayed in tPvP and why the Guardian and the Mesmer is not.

Problem with the thief is that the relation of risk vs. reward is completely derailed. If a thief jumps on somebody and during the fight it turns out that his opponent is stronger, he can just leave and that´s it. Other classes have to make decisions with consequences on whom and where to start a fight. Their burst plus their extremely good mobility makes the thief imho OP in wvw. I try to avoid thiefs in wvw because fighting them is pointless. Culling is a general problem in wvw but the ridiculous stealth stunts thiefs can do i did not see on any other classes that are able to stealth like mesmers or engis etc.

You can be sure that if there would be something wrong with NPC UI Anet had it fixed long time ago. Look at the Patchnotes and the proportion of PvE and PvP / Class Bug fixes and you get a clear view of the priorities. Next Balance Patch is on 14 Dec. , maybe the Necro get´s something fixed but i have really no confidence. There are so many Bugs or things that are simply annoying like not seeing Boons and Conditions while in DS etc. . I also don´t understand why Rezzing and Stomping in stealth is OK but in DS not, another Anet mystery. So Minion UI is only one thing among many and as long as Mr. Peters is figuring out how awesome DS is i guess there is no time for fixing Necro Bugs.

Kravick.4906:

There is no burst damage with staff so getting kills in a siege is extremely rare for me.

I would not say there is no burst in staff builds, it just needs a bit preparation, but if you combine it with well of suffering, life transference you get a lot dmg done in short time. I get on my marks usually ~1000 – ~1500 dmg per mark, highest crit i remember was around 3500~ but that does not mean much because i am sure that the target was a low level player. I would recommend reading https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Update-28k-HP-3k-Armor-3-4k-Attack-Necro/first . That helped me a lot and since i am running an adapted version of this build / gear setup my badges increased significant.

We do not have and we will never team up with anybody, especially not with frenchies. Our first encounter in GW2 was the Zergball of Death from Vizunah Place and when i can tell one thing to the OP, then it is that we do have some open depts with french servers. Even when the thought is tempting sometimes on the battlefield but there are no agreements whatsoever.

I guess Lightvision should really check his medication. As somebody from SFR complaining about other Servers zerging is plain ridiculous. Next time when you roll over the map with your megazerg of lameness check if your opponents have the outnumbered buff and then think about your bs comments about skills, lol.

I run a similar specc to the Necro in the Video and i can assure you that you won´t see this number if your opponents are at the samel level, gear and invested into toughness. It is also easily countered. But the statement that the necro is OP with all those Mesmers and Thiefes around is, well, at least interesting, lol.

oneking.7396:

After reading the update notes and testing the changes myself … i remembered an clip from an south park episode.

This clip kindy shows what i feel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMkvnyLYU4

The storm trooper = necromancer class

And i guess George Lucas is somebody who mastered Death Shroud already ^^

Shame on you Arenanet, you flatened lied in our Faces:

http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success

Colin Johanson wrote:

The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game. We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.

I really do not have more words to express my disappointment with you.

That is a Glass Canon Specc with 0 defense and easily countered. In absolutely no way comparable to the issues the thief has. What do you try to say here ? Necro´s OP ? I LOL´d hard………….