@dsslive: My assumption comes from the only announced legendaries not being the ones we want to see but rather, backpieces. Are legendary backpieces cool? Sure. Is it what we wanted legendary info on? I am not sure about that. I think we want to know about the weapons.
I am sure there are people that are way more into legendary back pieces than weapons. I’d be willing to wager a dapper llama that those people are in the minority though.
When they say that only three new legendaries are coming with HoT’s release day and they announce a few backpieces…that isn’t the best way to communicate to players and doesn’t give me any confidence that weapons will come at all. heck, they’ve been saying new legendaries are coming since 2013. Why should I hope at this point that any of that will actually come to fruition?
Well for all info there will be people that are not interested, and those who aren’t, all info will be released in time, what the “majority” (something that is completely unknown) wouild rather see is not that important. The information will be released in due time.
I don’t remember saying anything about having hope. But i’ll counter the question with this, why should you worry about something with reletively little (and sometimes confusing) information
In due time we will know all there is to know, so it might be bad, it might be good, but worrying over it just stresses you out, so why bother?
Because when Mike O’Brien and Colin stood up in front of an audience at PAX South at the beginning of the year they knew what those legendaries were. Same for Linsey Murdock when she did this blog post all the way back in March: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/
She knew what the legendaries were and what they weren’t. They need to work on their communication. They know what players(monetary supporters of their game)are thinking when they talk about Legendaries. Not a single player at PAX South was thinking, “Hooray! Legendary backpieces are coming!” Not a one. Not a single person at home that set aside time to read Linsay’s blog was thinking about backpieces. Not a single person. And they know this and yet they continue to put out misleading information or just flat out don’t care. Either way, they need to work on their communication.
This goes back to 2013 dude. I’ve had two and a half years of patience. I log in to get my daily rewards now and log out. I am looking for something, anything that screams to me that ArenaNet wants my money for this expansion pack. Nothing has done that yet, and going from saying in 2013 that Legendaries are coming and then they don’t to saying that new Legendaries are coming in 2015 to a blog post in March that says a “handful” are coming to their are 3 coming on HoT’s release day, and then showing me 2 backpieces. Wow.
I’m all out of patience with it.
“they need to work on their communication”
Not really news there, totally agree with that.
As for the legendary backpieces, no one was expecting those because we didn’t know they were even an option, so ofc at that time no one “wanted” those (well expected those, legendary armor ahs been a topic for quite some threads , backpiece counts as armor right?) That doesn’t make the information unimportant, they talked about legendaries , the scavenger hunt, all that they still have to do is shown an actual expample of a legendary weapon really.
As for the final part, i still stand with what i said, people get so up in arms , it will never do anything other then stress you out. Just take things as they come and decide whether its worth it to you from what you know.
tl:dr
They need to work on communication (big wauw :p) , nobody expected backpieces so ofc they werent thinking about them and chillax and just take it as it comes
@dsslive: My assumption comes from the only announced legendaries not being the ones we want to see but rather, backpieces. Are legendary backpieces cool? Sure. Is it what we wanted legendary info on? I am not sure about that. I think we want to know about the weapons.
I am sure there are people that are way more into legendary back pieces than weapons. I’d be willing to wager a dapper llama that those people are in the minority though.
When they say that only three new legendaries are coming with HoT’s release day and they announce a few backpieces…that isn’t the best way to communicate to players and doesn’t give me any confidence that weapons will come at all. heck, they’ve been saying new legendaries are coming since 2013. Why should I hope at this point that any of that will actually come to fruition?
Well for all info there will be people that are not interested, and those who aren’t, all info will be released in time, what the “majority” (something that is completely unknown) wouild rather see is not that important. The information will be released in due time.
I don’t remember saying anything about having hope. But i’ll counter the question with this, why should you worry about something with reletively little (and sometimes confusing) information In due time we will know all there is to know, so it might be bad, it might be good, but worrying over it just stresses you out, so why bother?
I am not a fan of the constant flow of those vanity items. But there it is: it’s vanity, you don’t need it and you can enjoy the gameplay without a legendary or a skin you can buy. That said: the game is at least fair and you can buy the items with ingame gold. Granted, since the exchange rate is extremely bad and even items like additional bag slots cost an insane amount of gold they should lower the prices or make items like bag slots, hair cuts etc. available via in game gold. I think that’s the price we have to pay without a monthly fee.
We still have to see what HOT has to offer. Yes, content doesn’t look much compared to other MMOs but even then you can sink lots of hours in it. There are games as short kitten -10 hours like The Last Of Us. But no one complains about the price tag of 10-15h.
The point I had in mind when I started the thread wasn’t that we needed new vanity items it was that we were told new legendaries were coming and we all thought: “Yay! Finally, new Legendary Weapons!” None of us thought it would be only 3 and two of them would be back items(Fractal Back item announced in a blog and a PvP back item announced at gamescom).
The Legendary weapons that were said to be coming literally years ago when ArenaNet themselves said they may never do an expansion are now behind a paywall of an expansion.
Think about that critically for a second. We were told on multiple occasions we were getting new ones and now not only are they behind a paywall, there may not be any new weapons. They may all be back items! The third one could be another back item(One new legendary requires us to do Fractals! Awesome! One requires PvP! Again, awesome! They are giving reasons to play this content and rewarding people with legendary items that like this content) The third one could require WvW play or the new Guild Battles or new map completion goals and it could be another back item.
No one was thinking about legendary back items. We were all thinking we were getting new Legendary weapons. Not only did they wait until the HoT character slot pre-order window was closed before announcing this, they haven’t even answered my original question!
My original question is: Are we getting 3 new legendaries at release and only 3 more after that, or are they releasing one at a time after the initial 3? Are they doing them in groups of 3? Are there any new Legendary Weapons?
The legendary backpacks have not been stated to be using the mastery tracks, the pvp one is gotten through pvp (by building it up) and the fotm ones is most likely .. well , fotm related. Is it possible? could be, but nothing has said that these will use the mastery tracks and scavenger hunt like the legendary weapons. So i’d hold off on assuming the backpacks are alrdy 2 of the 3 new legendaries.
We were all thinking we were getting new Legendary weapons.
- we are getting new legendaries, i think you meant to say, a new FULL set of legendary weapons.
As for your last question , i believe they come out in groups of 3 in subsequent patches, with 3 being at the start with HOT. So far nothing has been pointing that the legenadry backpieces fall under those 3, while it is a possibility, i’d hold off on getting worked up about it or worry about it till we have more information on it.
Well i’d love to get a new race to play around with, maybe tengu or largos.
Oh and +1 to the UWcombat overhaul
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That concept art is from livin story season 2, its a young caithe. Caithe has that face (which is not available to us) and it is one fo the more human faces.
I didn’t actually realize that it was an image of Caithe until you told me.
Doesn’t look much like her as she is ingame I think.
But Caithe does still have a lot of features of the original sylvari design, I’d guess because she was one of the first (sylvari) characters they created.
It’s her younger self, the one we played in one of the chapters, hence why the hair is different, the face is the same tho, it’s jsut the artsy style that coutns for the difference
Also, i would LOVE caithe’s face or more similar, there’s nothing wrong with variety.
The shape of the face is wrong, the nose is completely different.
Hairstyle is different too.
In itself the art is okay, but the resemblance is just poor. It’s just concept art though.
well ye that’s my point, it’s concept art, its not gonna be 100% accurate
After not having played for awhile, these mobs certainly showed how i’m not that used to the combat anymore ^^ died several times, but kitten that was awesome. Loving how these mobs are actually strong (or i jsut suck rly much :p), i did do a lot better with chrono then with rev, but then i’m more used to mesmer so makes sense.
Keep em how they are, they should be more challenging.
since you’re in the betah and i’m not, a more pertinent question is this.. can you imagine yourself playing against such mobs for a 2 or 3 hour session? that’s the important bit (for me), that’s the gauge. that’s what’s been on my mind.
I wanna say yes, but i haven’t really played enough yet to really know Will play for a longer time tommorrow so i’ll find out.
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only rly gonna adress one thing, but regarding the “it only being content if we choose to use it” line. That’s not really how content works. Dungeons is content whether you actual do dungeons or avoid them like the plague, they’re still content. A collection that i choose to do is as much content as the one i choose not to do.
So ye, if you choose not to go through certain content, that content doesn’t really tend to disappear. It’s still there, and counting as content.
Anyhow, back on topic (if i wasnt alrdy :p) i had hoped for couple more, even tho i knew we weren’t getting them all at once, but i dig the concept of legendaries coming as the story develops. Hopefully that means they’re more tied to lore, but who knows really I do believe its partially because all the old precursors have had that whole rework in how they’ll be available, which might sound small, but i’m betting its a lot of work for each “scavenger” hunt" it could be a reason why they dont have a full set, but i’m not really worried tbh. I mean i dont even have one legendary yet (hoping to change that with HoT , gimme that bifrost pre plox :p) so i’ll have plenty of time before i even start looking into the directions of the otehr legendaries. So if it comes a couple onths later i dont mind.
You are not getting my point.
They made it to make it easy for new players. But they made it for everyone.Kinda repeating the same sentence…. Can’t you spot the difference between:
“Do something for someone to reason”
And
“Do something to reason” (where reason is for someone in particular, but only the reason, not the something. But that something is something done, for everyone)
?“I’m donating food to kids in africa because they are hungry”
Here it’s clear that i’m giving food to kids in africa“I’m donating food, because kids in africa are hungry”
Here is not that clear. Maybe I’m donating food to an ONG that distributes this food between Africa, Middle-east, etc?
But in the end it doesn’t matter how you choose to interpret the sentence but how Anet interprets it. It says what it says, if you choose to see it differently , in the end, won’t matter even a little bit
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It really doesn’t matter who develops the game or publishes or stands on the street corner and sells bootleg gw2 disks. The point is, I as well as many others (yourself included) would like to have a “own name” type of option. I came to the community forum to express my hopes for the future of gw2.
I’m not trying to be difficult Inculpatus cedo.9234. I’m just frustrated that I have to defend my stand, even from the people that want the change themselves. A similar change would have absolutely ZERO impact on the people who don’t find value in it. But screw me right? “Welcome to the Internet: Where even when you’re right, you’re wrong.”
No need to take every reply so personal. Calm down, take a breath.
All Inculpatus was saying is that other games under ncsofts names don’t have any relevance to Gw2. It’s not saying no to your suggestion (or yes for that matter) just that the comparison you made between two different games by two different developers dont rly have an effect on one another. that’s it really.
As for the other replies, yes, it’s a simple request, but if you’re going to voice your opinion on it, you need to realize that people who disagree or see no merit in the request are going to respond too and that its nothing personal just differenting opinions.
As for my own opinion, i wouldn’t mind if it was added, as long as it has an option to disable it, while i personally dont want my character name to be displayed, i see no problem with others wanting too. Given it’s possible to opt out.
p/p can’t decide of its a condition weapon or a power weapon. Staff won’t be able to decide if its a melee weapon or a ranged weapon. You see the comparison? X can’t decide if its a Y weapon or Z weapon.
I 100% agree with you on the dual pistols part, but how do you know about the staff? Despite evidence supporting staff, we don’t even truly know if it’s the thieves elite weapon, let alone the skills that are going to come along with it.
Side note, I’d prefer the staff to be a melee weapon, as a magic-wielding, ranged “shadow assassin” theme would fit better for a focus or scepter in my opinion.
people data mined a picture of “staff theif” (you know…like how they datamined a ele with sword. look how true that turned out)
and now they assume that they getting a melee staff like revanent(you know. the thing people hated for its horrible dmg and cried about)thief getting ranged staff…doesnt really make sense. as we have so many ranged staffs, and even ranger staff is ranged.
theif melee staff, is like wise a bad move. cause look at revanant’s reaction to it. now thief players are assuming a staff will be “good AoE” when in all likely hood its going to (if its real) be pathetic dmg that is a gimmick, and nothing more.
Rifle has the potential to a new playstyle. with dmg potential while avoiding making any of theif’s current weapons irrelevant (they will all have their roles wile rifle is stationary long range)
but staff would either be horrible underperforming and weak.
or
would replace sword as the theif AoE melee weapon.
or
would replace shortbow as the ranged AoE weapon.
in the end, it doesn’t fit.
People commented on revenant staff based on its numbers not its playstyle or its skills, numbers ahve since been adjusted.
As for the datamining, yes , it is not official till it’s announced. But your comparison can be improved a bit. See the thief staff (both picture and weapon) were datamined at the same time as the Ele warhorn (and the picture used on the spec line). The ele warhorn came true, so…
But yeah, ofcourse we will not know till its officially announced.
Whether it fits depends on the actual weapon skills, of which we know nothing. Yes thief already has dagger and sword mainhand. Warrior has sword/gs/hammer/axe/etc mainhand, yet they all function differently, until we see the weapon and its skills its hard to judge whether it brings something new to the class. There’s more to playstyles then melee or ranged.
I mean dont get me wrong rifle would be a cool weapon, but atm there is more pointing towards staff (recent datamining) than to rifle.
Either way, i’d be happy with either. Can’t wait to hear what the spec of thief will be.
if we talk about datamining
i’ll point to beta test datamining of vanilla GW2
when Thief concept art still had rifle in it
and thief datamining had rifle skillsbut before release, it got delayed, and then launch came, and it got forgotten(or was it? Anet was it forgotten, delayed, or postponed?)
so rifle has had dibs far longer, going so far to have concept art with game’s launch.
I don’t think it works that way
But as i said, no datamining is official, it could be staff, rifle, or god knows what else. The reason people feel staff is more likely is because there is more proof towards it. Whether that comes true remains to be seen. No way to know other than to be patient. Would be silly to already be so sure what it will be before hearing anything about it.
Tho i would certainly not mind for that concept to be introduced, as long as it comes with that amazing armor she’s wearing.
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