Guild Wars 2

You can only play at specifically announced beta weekends, of which tehre is one more to come somewhere in october, other than that, you’ll have to wait till the game actually releases

All mastery points in central tyria will be awarded retro-actively so yes, you will receive them if you’ve already done the task for it.

I very much doubt xp will transfer over, and i personally don’t want it to.

They said they won’t be making any armors for the gemstore anymore, outfits are going in the gemstore, armors will be obtained ingame

Technically, HoT is $10 cheaper (9,99 to be exact) than the pre purchase price for gw2. So they aren’t exactly the same price.

Don’t forget about the Herald, i believe one of his glint utilities can reveal stealthed enemies , cannot remember the name of it tho :p

You don’t need to have PS or LS completed to start HoT. I believe it will be added to the story journal as its awn section and you just need to activate it.

Okay, as for now my rating would be:
1 Herald
2 Chronomancer
3 Daredevil
4 Reaper
5 Dragonhunter
6 Tempest
7 Berserker

I love Daredevila nd chrono, and herald is even better Not a fan of the berzerker or the tempest. Dragonhunter and reaper are more in the “okay” catagory

You can’t put a feature locked behind gemstores, concerning your ideas, if introduced anet could make plenty of money of rare pets in gemstore with all the common ones available ingame to raise in your instance. But to fully base it around gemstore is already a major flaw.

Every profession gets 1 new elite spec with hoT (more coming in the future)
You gain acces to the elite spec by equipped the elite traitline, which unlocks the weapon and utility skills.

Will this make everyone clones? Not anymore than they already are, it adds more options. I’m sure at first everyone will be using the new elite specs, but eventually people will find the build that suits them, be it with elite specced or not.

You still ahve to pick your weapons, utilites and traits (you aren’t forced into using the wep/utilies if you want to go daredevil, you can be one using your regular weapons) which means people will still ahve different set ups etc.

No all classes won’t be the same

At this time i have 15 characters, all level 80;
(2 mesmers, 3 ele’s, 2 necro’s, 1 thief, 2 engi’s, 2 rangers, 2 warriors, 1 guard)

but i still have 3 open character slots, 2 for future revenants, and 1 wildcard (not yet sure , most likely a thief )

Meh, i picked up some nice things, so i’m satisfied. Did everything i want go on sale? no, but i didn’t expect it too

Whether you personally like the items or not, someone will and that person will be quite happy with it.

Azur.5837:

I cannot make a revenant either, i urchased HoT last week and thought that it was only creatable on the weekends. but i was wrong. SO is there any solution to this problem yet?? Ireally want to play revenant

The beta is only active during Beta Weekend Events, which will be announced when they will take place. You cannot make a revenant until such a beta weekend, there will be one more in the future, most likely at the start of october.

Lome.8239:

I’m confused because when playing the beta I was able to glide in The Silverwastes.

Is that map not grouped with the core ones when considering this?

Technically you were in an instance, not the map. I don’t think you’ll be able to glide in the silverwastes. The glider being available in that instance was most likely because it was a part of the beta and therefor ahd it “turned on”.

But if you want to know 100% sure, you can take your beta character to th silverwastes (outside of the story instance) and try it out in the next beta.

Don’t be silly guys, they wont make exotic or ascended dyes, that’s just foolikitten

hey’re skipping them and going straight to legendary dyes, obviously.

It will most likely return next winter event

Everytime this topic comes up people forget the context around the whole “no grind” statement. They never said no grind, they said you wouldn’t need to grind to get the the gear you need to complete all of the content. They enver talked about there being no optional grind (for cosmetics and such, not extra power)

lordkrall.7241:

I suppose it is better if they simply don’t release anything at all. Oh but wait, when they did that people whined about them not releasing anything.

Yes, there are some issues with the event. Yes, it could have been better.

But it is rather silly to first rage like mad for months about lack of content, and then when we finally get content, complain about how bad said content is and how they would be better of not releasing it at all.

First things is, not everyone complaining about how unrewarding this event is, has been raging for months because of no new stuff. I’m sure there are plenty of people who dislike the way this event has been handled and didnt rage about the content drought.

Second thing is, people are allowed to voice their discontent when something isn’t to their liking for a product they spent money on, i’m not saying anet has to bend to their will or anything like that, but people are allowed to voice their opinions on the product. this is nothing new. And just because this is the first event in a rather long time does not mean people aren’t allowed to share their discontent about the nature of the event that was added. This coming after a drought of content doesn’t make it immune to critiscism.

Though i do wish people would stop making new threads already and just post in the exisiting ones lol. (not necessarily reffering to this thread, but just a general notice :p)

lordkrall.7241:

I don’t know. 20 blooms (an hour) can be traded for stuff that have the chance of giving items worth very much gold.

Isn’t it only 15 blooms per hour (not counting the daily due to it only being a one time per account per map reward) 1-9 stacks gives 5, 10-19 gives 10 and 20 stacks give 15, or atleaast that’s what i gathered from it.

EDIT: hmm i might have misunderstood what you were saying, did you mean 20 blooms an hour from the events or were you reffering to the 20 blooms it costs for the scarlet box?

Berelious.3290:

Zaron.1987:

Berelious.3290:

. That being said, this is a far cry from being the worst thing ever.

really what content in 3 years gw2 was more worst?

explain it to me pls . i really want to know what was even more worse in your opinion than this one

Last year’s Halloween event is a good example. Almost a carbon copy of the year before, no change in story, only a few new item rewards. It wasn’t bad, but could have been a lot better.

It may ahhave been a carbon copy, but atleast it felt rewarding to play.

Quite frankly i find that anet dropped the ball on this. The whole reward structure is off. You get too little reward for doing anything. The amount of blossoms you get compared to the amount you need is really bad, especially with this being such a short event. The very least Anet could have done to make it somewhat worth it was add a gold/karma/xp reward to the events, currently you get no gold whatsoever out of it, no loot to seel, nothing. Considering you’re going to be waypointing all ove rthe map (because you’ll never get enough stacks of that buff to get a decent endreward by running) and the gold price on the vendor makes this quite the goldsink. No one likes loosing stuff from actively participating in events, that’s not rewarding at all.

And not to mention how new players are not going to have the gold necessary to both wp around the map to get a decent end reward AND pay for the actual items due to their gold costs. No xp or karma means they are getting nothing usefull out of it. And again comes down to the fact that it’s completely unrewarding.

I was looking forward to these events, and will be playing when i get the time and stop when i get bored of the unrewarding grind. But i gave up on any of those rewards, i’ll jsut see what i can afford at the end and guess that’ll be it.

I still have confidence in Anet, i prepurchased , enjoyed the bwe’s and those all give me a really positive impression of HoT, but this particular event, the ball was dropped.

Ok I Did It.2854:

I was in Verdant Brink and yes loot did drop, but its not hard for them to make loot drop so that you tell your friends whom haven’t bought HoT yet that T6 mats etc drop, then after HoT is released WHAM the loot disappears, lets face it, the only thing that has been consistent in the game is the way event rewards get nerfed and loot gets removed,

This is going more into the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory so i’m gonna leave this alone.

Ok I Did It.2854:

So I would love an open and honest answer from Anet about how events in the future will go, as of right now, I know of 5 people who are gearing up to ask for a refund on HoT due to this, as they do not want to continue playing a game with no rewards,

This is a major sticking point for players, and yet its continually ignored by Anet devs, if they come here and tell me honestly that events will not drop loot, ( or they will be like SW rewards ) I will happily ask for a refund and move to a new game, then the devs can be happy that someone who wasn’t happy with there game is gone and they can keep the players who are happy to receive nothing for the time played.

They already answered part of this, no i don’t have a source, it’s somewhere so i"m sure someone will find it, or maybe you feel up to the task in tracking it down (i personally do not) but yes the new areas will be similar to SW, ex map specific currency (geodes, bandit badges and in verdant brink, airship parts) and a lot of the event structure (the defend at night time) is similar. Only difference is , you do get loot from individual mobs. And no annoying chest spam after each event, so yay for that :p Anyhow, back to the point, they stated that both drytop and sw are the type of maps they used to look forward into HoT.

I do disagree that people are playing without getting any rewards (this special event not included for obvious reasons) but Sw for example is one of the most profitable places to farm, and no it may not be from individual mob drops, but it’s still a very lucrative place to be. So, you do receive stuff for time played. (again ignoring this particular event, we’ll be able to judge how rewarding it is, once the bugfixes are out)

Nannabie.6943:

Its more about how so many have been waiting for so many months for something new and we get this.. Cant be that hard to give us SaB as many players have been asking for..
And its not about the price of the item.. i dont mind sales and players getting things cheaper, thats just nice for them. And i dont mind farming coz i can do that all day since i enjoy farming. Its about things that before was gem store now are a vendor item.

Yes they are a vendor item right now, i get that it can feel like you waisted your money earleir, but it’s still no real difference than any store promoting something by giving stuff for free, stuff people previously had to pay for. It’s not like these are permanent additions either, it’s a simple 4 day promotion , if you’re lucky to get enough blossoms you can tick off some items. It’s not that uncommon in online games. (or real stores ^^)

Actually it IS hard to give you SaB they’ve stated before that after changes ahving been made to the engine SaB broke in the process, they can’t switch it back on untill they can spare the manpower to fix it. And HoT is where all their manpower is right now (they even ahd to give up making elite spec videos because they didn’t have the time for it) I’m sure once HoT is out they can once again spread out their employees to different tasks.

So would you go to your local market and complain that last week you bought 6 oranges and now they’re handing a pack of 6 oranges away for a promotion that lasts 4 days ?

This is a 4 day event, after that the vendors are gone, it’s a promotion. There is nothing wrong with giving out items for a lower price or even free, that used to be higher price/not free.

Ok I Did It.2854:

So its time to be honest here Anet,

Is this how events will go after HoT is released, as we seem to be seeing more and more events where no loot drops, no xp is given, and no karma is awarded during or after an event

unless you mean special events and not the regular DE’s in the new maps, no this isn’t how it will be in HoT, which we know from the beta weekends, where after completing an event you get xp/karma/gold and there is plenty of loot dropped. Together with a map specific reward (ex. verdant brink gets airship parts) to exchange to vendors.

As much as this event seems terribly unrewarding (no loot drops, no rewards whatsoever from the events themselves, etc) we already know from the last two beta weekends that the same cannot be said about the events in there. Ofcourse i’m assuming the other maps frollow the same reward structure.

Requiemcliff.1920:

ScribeTheMad.7614:

You’re expected to play 48 hours a day for the whole event, it’s not like people need to work, eat, or sleep right?

Or as posted, the event is currently bugged and they are working on a fix.

We know that the endreward not being ahnded out is bugged and being worked on, we know nothing whether it is actually meant for tehre to be only 5 blooms/hour or whether that’s a bug too (like ex. scaling with events 5blooms/event) Which is what scribe is getting at. Currently, if you only get 5 blooms per hour, you need to play atleast 90 hours to get the selfless/selfish potions. Which is quite ridiculous for such a short term event.

I’d rather they create new weapon types instead of giving old weapons new skills for certain Elite specs.

A Whip, GreatAxe, Spear (of the land variety) or any other type of new weapon would be far more interesting. Both froma cosmetic and skills point of view.

Regev.6971:

Alright, thanks, so I suppose there’s no reason not to buy the LS2 right now.

Do you recommend the 100$ HoT option (with 4k gems), or simply buying gems directly?

Well if you’re planning on buying gems anyway, i believe the 100$ HoT option is better.

As for buying ls 2, while you do miss out on the start (the whole scarlet debacle) HoT story does start immediately after the events of the season 2 story, some important things to the story have been revealed in such. I think, even without the first season, season 2 is still a good thing to complete before HoT. Just watch the season 1 cinematic they put in the game (should be activatable in story journal) so you know who the characters are with you

Regev.6971:

alright I think i understand now. i mistaken the LS1 for Personal Storyline. Is there any way to play Living Season 1 now? Will there ever be in the future?

Also, will LS2 be included in HoT? If not, is it worth buying it now, and will it ever be removed (just like LS2) ?

Thank you

Living story Season 2 wont be included in HoT so you’ll ahve to buy it seperatly. I don’t think they’ll ever remove it, no.

Living Story Season 1 was made up out of temporary content, they are looking in a way to bring it back in the future, but it requires quite some work to change them to instances (most were openworld events) so it wont arrive till after HoT, but they are looking into it.

Dalgon.1083:

I was one of the probably many people that spent $90ish dollars on the best version of guild wars 2 when it came out. I am having a hard time figuring out how it is worth spending another $50-$90 on for this new expansion just simply to get a free character slot. At the lowest option that means I am spend a total of $140 to avoid a chat restriction, economy restriction and for a character slot.

You aren’t paying for just a character slot, you’re paying to get acces to everything coming with the expansion: elite specs, raids, heart of maguuma region, masteries, etc

So no, you’re not paying just for an extra character, it’s just something you get if you do decide to buy the expansion.

Dalgon.1083:

I think there should be a option to simply just upgrade my account to this new expansion. I would spend $20 to upgrade my account to the new expansion and not care if I get a character slot or not. By going free to play (even though free to play is partially limited) pretty much meant I spent $90 to get around a few limitations and for a few exclusive things which again seems like a rip off for any support of the game before the free to play came out.

It’s not a rip off, not even remortely close to it. You spent your money buying the original game and have had 3 years of playing, including events that wont be back, progress made that new players will ahve to take 3 more years to get close to.

Also, the expansion costs 50$ that is the price of it, the character slot does not come into play into the price, if you dont think the expansion warrants that price than don’t buy it. You’re free to wait a year or two till it goes down that far or better yet till the next expansion comes around and you’ll get it for free with it, ofc if you dont mind mising everything that happens inbetween.

Dalgon.1083:

I just don’t see how 1 character slot equals out to paying even more money for a game that I spent $90 in the first place that is now worthless and need to spend another $50-$90 to be on par with new players. I shouldn’t have to spend $140-$180 (depending on edition type) to have what someone could of spent $50-$90 on.

Again, you are not paying for an extra character slot, you are paying for all the content that comes with the expansion, it’s not that hard to understand.

Actually you do, that’s kinda the deal with being there from the start, you have every right to choose and wait for prices to lower down the road, that happens with every single product. You want to be there from the start but you also want to get all the future discounts etc with it? If i buy a laptop full price when it first comes out, do i deserve to get a part of the money back when it’s being sold at lower price of just given away? no i dont.

Dalgon.1083:

I know people will just be like O well what about games like World of Warcraft charging $60 for new expansions? The thing about spending $60 on a new expansion is that it doesn’t give you the entire game up to that point with the expansion. It only gives you that single expansion so your previous purchase isn’t made worthless like this is where you get the expansion and the original game.

Your previous purchase has not been made worthless, you had 3 years of events happen that new people will not get to enjoy, including not ahving to pay for extras like season 2 story chapters, we got all that for free, they still have to buy those.

The price of the expansion is 50$ with or without the core game added to it for free, the price would remain the same, whether that price is worth it to you, again, totally your decision.

Dalgon.1083:

I just feel like the way this expansion is priced and not giving a option to pay a lesser fee to previous supporters of the game to just upgrade without also paying for a second core game kind of throws us under the bus. To me a extra character slot is not worth the extra $25ish dollars compared to if I could just pay $25 to upgrade off my current core game.

You are not paying for an extra core game, the expansion is 50$ with or without it core game being added for free. Also, the character slot does not make up 25$ of the price, it makes up a complete 0$ of the price. The upgrade is 50$ will be so till launch, will be so for awhile after launch (when there is no extra character slot fyi, so it does not factor in the price) and after some time (with the original game it was like a year) it will start going down in price, feel free to wait as long as you want and miss everything happening inbetween.

Logothx.5628:

Well i feel like i was scammed buying Taimi’s dye pack today. 5/250 – with a result of 0/5 for a dye you actually wanted. Anet may find that they sell even more dyes if they actually made the dyes that people wanted in the first place available. As it is, well you fooled me once …. never going to be scammed like that again.

Hardly a scam when it’s right there in the description. Next time read it before purchasing. Easy way to avoid this kind of feeling.

I disagree, leave outfits be as they are.

What i would like to see is a couple more armorsets alongside (not copies of the outfits) but like a 3:1 ratio for outfits and armors. I would love to have more stuff to mix and match.

But that said, leave outfits alone, they are fine for what they are and i quite like them, even if i love mix-match’ing armor more.

More of both, i say

There wasn’t one last bwe they’re probably too busy

you have to buy the deluxe, or buy the upgrade to deluxe through the gemstore (which i believe is already available.

Except they didn’t raise the price for adding the core game to it. With or without the core game added to it, it would still be 50$. That is the price of the expansion.

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Randulf.7614:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

Look folks… normally I’m on your side on these types of discussions lol but to me Raiding SHOULD NOT be expansion only content. Anything that requires a group shouldn’t be. It’s exclusionary for a MYRIAD of reasons.

Absolutely 110% it should be expac only content. It’s a huge incentive for ppl to get HoT. This is how MMO’s work. You want the latest dungeon/raid, then you pay for it as part of the expansion. And we knew the challenging content was locked behind HoT since the announcement back at the beginning of the year.

The sheer amount of content available for free should be enough for those ppl unhappy.

Yeah but in no other MMO is something as fundamental as raiding xpac only…

Well raiding isn’t really a “fundemental” part of gw2. It’s something new coming with the expansion, but it’s not a fundemental part of this game, of other mmo’s maybe, but not gw2.

Soon

/15 charr

bladezero.9470:

Those of you who are in a position to loot a lot of ascended gear most definitely crafted your way to that point. Which is the problem…imo.

This is actually untrue, atleast for me, but i’m sure there are people out there with the same experience as me.

I got to the point where you needed ascended items in fractals, by getting ascended ring drops in early stages (which can be done without AR) , put some AR on those rings or rather infuse them first with the items you get as loot from the same fractals, this gives you enough AR to move higher, you can do guild missins or save laurels to fill up the amulet/accesories. Which again allow you to move up higher in fractals, and which point you can use the tokens to make an ascended backpiece in the mystic forge (would hardly call mf crafting, but still if you don’t even want to bother taking out 10s to put 4 items in mf , you dont ahve to) because at this point you’ve already reached the point where ascended armor/weapons have a chance to drop.

So while i’m sure crafting the armor/weapons is a lot faster, you do not need to. You can get the items you need to level fractals from both fractals itself (backpiece/rings) and laurels/ecto’s/guildmissions (amulet/accesories) at which point you’re high enough AR to be able to get it as a drop in Fractals.

testpig.5018:

stat enhancements are not optional.

skins are optional.

Lucky for you, legendary weapons ARE skins basically, they have the exact same stats as ascended which can be gained from WvW, Crafting or PvE or even PvP (i think, not sure) so choose your favorite.

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Elitejelly.7462:

dsslive.8473:

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Since preloading is pretty commonplace, I will assume it. So there! :p

be my guest, but if you get disapoointed, it’s on you

Preloading (headstart) is usually mentioned as one of the bonuses (it was with the original release) since there has been no word on it whatsoever, i’ not gonna expect one.
And yes it’s common with newly released games, with expansions however? not sure.

Preloading and head start are 2 different things. Preloading is have everything downloaded so we don’t have to wait 4 hours to play, which i assume they will do. I mean we already have some of the content on our computers right now because of betas. Head start is getting to play early, which I don’t think they plan on doing.

Yeah, this is what I meant. I just want it all ready to go when it goes live. Not getting a head start on playing.

Oh my bad, thought you meant headstart

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Since preloading is pretty commonplace, I will assume it. So there! :p

be my guest, but if you get disapoointed, it’s on you

Preloading (headstart) is usually mentioned as one of the bonuses (it was with the original release) since there has been no word on it whatsoever, i’ not gonna expect one.
And yes it’s common with newly released games, with expansions however? not sure.

No it’s not unless specifically said so, you shouldn’t assume there will be a three day headstart.

No clue for the first question (i do think a list of the rewards per day was datamined at some point but no clue where to find it :p )

As for the second question, the mastery points you earn in central tyria, will only be able to be used in central tyria masteries , same for the HoT mastery points. (atleast that’s what i understood from it )

Daredevil and chronomancer, without a doubtI just love everything about the staff and the physical skills (not to mention the dodge mod traits) and Chrono is just amazing, no explanation needed (yes i am a mesmer main :p )

Well you’ll find out in 2 days

I love the daredevil name:) i find it very fitting to the idea behind this spec.

Donari.5237:

“Fluffylight,”

I’ll be extremely disappointed if this isn’t the name for the next guard spec.

On topic, as donari stated, when equipping your elite spec your class icon and name will change, once you uneuip said traitline you’ll be back to being a guardian and the old classicon.

Cartune.6143:

Take a look at it. Mesmer, Necromancer, Guardian, Elementalist and Revenant (and now …..Thief) can use Staff….then why not give it to everybody now, Warriors probably also need it…So many classes can use it and only…ONLY, Warrior and Engineer can use the Rifle, it would have been WAY more interesting to give the Rifle to the Thief and have some variations between the weapons used in the game.

Probably because they create specs based on a cool concept and not on what weapon needs to be represented more. Seems to pay off imo, i love the daredevil. Name, staff and everything

Bryzy.2719:

dsslive.8473:

Bryzy.2719:

Also, please answer why you think: “But on the other hand do you really think anet is going to get any usefull and valuable feedback if they release an unfinished spec? (assuming it’s not ready)”

When this is EXACTLY what they did with the Revenant and “useful and valuable feedback” is EXACTLY what they got from an unfinished profession.

Simple, you’re assuming i’m talking about a missing traitline or weapon, but if the class as a whole isn’t finished (aka energy management, interactions of legendary stance switches) than you’re feedback is gonna be pretty useless.

btw a missing traitline for an elite spec is quite a big deal actually since that’s kinda what it’s about, the traitline/weapon/utility skils and class mechanic change/addition. It’s kinda important to have all those to be tested together, just like the revenant had it’s trait lines, it’s corresponding legendary stances and weapons and ofc class mechanic, instead of, just a traitline and a weapon without legendary stance or even a class mechanic.

What?? I’m not assuming anything. I’m making a direct reference to the fact that you said “unfinished”. Again, you’re making things up.

And you’re completely wrong by saying “if the class as a whole isn’t finished (aka energy management, interactions of legendary stance switches) than you’re feedback is gonna be pretty useless.”, since the Revenant was FAR from finished when it was released, yet all the feedback on the UNFINISHED Revenant was useful to Anet. I think you’ve completely misunderstood what I asked you here.

I’m not saying the feedback on the revenant wasn’t usefull to anet, i’m saying it was usefull because the basics of the revenant were there. (the things i mentioned in my post)

Random.4691:

You’re both arguing over assumption.
Neither one of you have facts.
Neither one of you is right.
Neither one of you are wrong.
You’re both dragging out an argument that can’t be answered factually.
Stop the slap fight, you both look silly.

You are in fact correct As such there is nothing really more to say.

Bryzy.2719:

So what was it they did with the Revenant in the first BWE then hmm?

Levetty.1279:

Like all the Rev tests they did without all the weapons and trait lines in place?

There’s a bit off a difference between a missing weapon and missing class mechanic/class functionality. did the revenant go without his energy and legendary stance switching?

Bryzy.2719:

So now you’re implying that all the currently revealed elite specs are ready? Yet people are entitled to play those despite them not being? Keep going. Edit: I retract my previous statement of not replying to you any further as I can’t let such fallacy go unchallenged

Yes, the full base is ready, tweaks and fixes are what’s in store for them to make them completely ready. And no one is entitled to anything, they get what anet gives them duirng the beta, that’s it. If you want to feel like you are being unfairly treated because you’re fav isn’t in the current beta then tough luck, that’s not really how it works.

Lol fallacy sure, must be hard trying so hard to discredit someone coze they don’t agree with you.

Bryzy.2719:

Also, please answer why you think: “But on the other hand do you really think anet is going to get any usefull and valuable feedback if they release an unfinished spec? (assuming it’s not ready)”

When this is EXACTLY what they did with the Revenant and “useful and valuable feedback” is EXACTLY what they got from an unfinished profession.

Simple, you’re assuming i’m talking about a missing traitline or weapon, but if the class as a whole isn’t finished (aka energy management, interactions of legendary stance switches) than you’re feedback is gonna be pretty useless.

btw a missing traitline for an elite spec is quite a big deal actually since that’s kinda what it’s about, the traitline/weapon/utility skils and class mechanic change/addition. It’s kinda important to have all those to be tested together, just like the revenant had it’s trait lines, it’s corresponding legendary stances and weapons and ofc class mechanic, instead of, just a traitline and a weapon without legendary stance or even a class mechanic.

Bryzy.2719:

dsslive.8473:

Bryzy.2719:

dsslive.8473:

Bryzy.2719:

dsslive.8473:

Bryzy.2719:

dsslive.8473:

Bryzy.2719:

Avster.1935:

Why are people so melodramatic? It’s fine dude. If warrior and guardian were the last two, would you have made a post saying “Warriors and Guardians shafted”?

This is coming from someone who has his highest hours played as a Ranger.

It’s not fine, and YES if Guardians and Warriors were the last two, I’d be saying “Warriors and Guardians shafted”. It doesn’t matter what the professions are, the point is there are professions getting valuable feedback time and others not.

Ranger is the most poorly designed profession in the game currently, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that carries over to druid seeing as it will be one of the last elite reveals and therefore have the least amount of playtime to relay feedback to Anet.

It doesn’t matter how many more BWEs Anet give us now. All other professions will still have had 2 more than Rangers and Engis. I’d be saying exactly the same if it was any other 2 professions in the same position.

They cannot release something to let people play and give feedback on if it’s not ready yet, it’s a very simple concept.

ArenaNet stated that Druid was THE spec they were most confident about, hence announcing it first. Therefore that concept is void in this context.

Being confident in a concept does not mean it’s ready to be released for feedback. Concept =/= finished work.

Unless you have a source stating the druid is actually ready and not just about how confident they are about the concept of the druid, it doesn’t really matter. (also: source pls)

Given what you’re proposing, do you have a source that suggests the Druid, or Engi spec for that matter, is not equally as ready as the other revealed specs?

Source pls.

Well i guess just trying to flip the question and ignoring what’s actually said is one tactic. A pretty bad one but sure , have fun with that.

My source? easy, they’re not released yet. Also, you can look up any , and i do mean any, article where someone asks about some futureitem/change/etc they’ll mostly have the answer that they’re not ready to reveal it yet/ only reveal things that are ready. But you can willfully ignore that to suit your own little theory ofc.

It’s not that hard to use logic if you really try too.

So you’re making an assumption based on the fact that they’re not released yet? There are multiple possibilities as to why they haven’t been released, such as ArenaNet’s subjective content-reveal schedule to maintain a mild level of anticipation leading to release. You criticised my assumption that ArenNet’s meaning behind the fact that Druid is the spec they are most “confident” in meant it is likely to be more ready than the others, yet you make your own.

Actually i’m basing all my reasoning off of what anet has said over and over again when it comes to not revealing content before it is done. While you are basing yours on .. what exactly? you “feel” that it’s ready?

Oh and not to mention to siliness of your whole “i prepurchased i’m entitled to test whatver i want” line. No, you prepurchased a game, you have gotten everything they said you would get, aces to the beta weekend. Prepurchasing does not entitle you to decide what is in said beta.

Now you’re putting words in my text. Please tell me where I said “I’m entitled to test whatever I want”. I said nothing of the sort, nor was it even implied. Though I guess this proves the illogical lows you’re willing to stoop to in arguments. Well done, you’ve entirely lost argumentative credibility.

I’ll correct your quote for you: “I’ve pre-purchased just like anyone else, so why can’t I play my Druid at the same time others can play their elite specs?” This asserts that players should have equal access to content they prefer to play, but this unfortunately is not the case. I am not replying to you any further in case I’m deliberately mis-quoted to suit a failing argument again.

Hint: you quoted the part where you implied to be entitled to test the druid regardless of whether it’s ready or not.

But pretend that my arguments lost validity if it makes you feel more confident about yours. I don’t mind.

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Why are people so melodramatic? It’s fine dude. If warrior and guardian were the last two, would you have made a post saying “Warriors and Guardians shafted”?

This is coming from someone who has his highest hours played as a Ranger.

yes. as someone who mains thief, I’m not happy about these classes having less time to test. if it was guard or warrior getting 1/3 of the testing that some other classes get, I’d be pretty kittened for them too.

(this assumes only 3 total BWEs. the more we get post ranger/engi, the less relevant an argument this is)

But on the other hand do you really think anet is going to get any usefull and valuable feedback if they release an unfinished spec? (assuming it’s not ready)