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A better system would be like how eBay works. Allow the buyer to secretly set the maximum price they’re willing to pay for an item, and have the TP auto-raise your bid if you are out-bid. That would immediately raise the market price to the second-most any single buyer is willing to pay + 1c (until his order is filled and he drops out of the market). Sniping would not be a problem because unlike eBay, nobody knows when a seller is going to sell an item, so you can’t swoop in a few seconds before he sells to raise your bid. I suppose someone could place a bid, see that yours auto-outbid his, and re-place his bid until eventually his bid was higher than yours. But that shouldn’t bother you because the system stopped auto-bidding for you at the amount you set as your maximum – he paid more than you were willing to, plain and simple. It’ll only bother you if you lied about what was the most you were willing to pay.
One more time — the difference between the trading post and eBay is that if you get outbid on eBay, you don’t get the item. Here, you generally do — it just takes longer.
A bid is a buy order. If someone outbids you, your order still stands and will get filled after the person who outbid you gets theirs. It’s more like the stock market (except for the TP tax, which is the biggest difference). Markets are better for large numbers of identical items. Auctions are better for one-of-a-kind items.
(And yes, the min bid botting problem more or less exists on the stock market — it’s called “high-frequency trading”.)
If they are going to just change only one thing about the tp it should be not letting bids below the minimum selling cost of the item (and removing the ones already there).
Oh dear lord, yes. I very much agree.
A little girl is lost in a cave… and stumbles upon a bunch of seeds. She takes one, finds her way out of the cave, plants it, and raises it into….
The best I could find is this note on the wiki:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elder_Dragon#Trivia
" Dragons were not always the main antagonists of Guild Wars 2. According to The Making of Guild Wars 2 book, original drafts for story included demons and angelic beings descending to the world to judge it."
I’d love to get multiple simultaneous stories, with enough braiding crossovers to make them part of a greater whole. It’d be lovely if there was so much complex narrative that only dedicated lore hounds could experience all of it. Or at least if the world had enough happening to allow for more branching tales, ala S M Stirling’s Emberverse, which he likens to Hyperborea’s conglomeration of cultures.
A woman can dream.
I’m not familiar with the Emberverse, but I otherwise agree with this sentiment. I wish the plot were less focused on a single main threat, but more on several threats of approximately the same magnitude. That allows for more interesting writing as the threats interact.
Does anyone have a link to where the designers discuss their earliest plot ideas for the game? If I recall correctly, there was going to be a plot with demons invading, in addition to the elder dragons, but they later decided to cut that plot and focus on the dragons, but I’d still be happier if someone else knew what I was referring to and could find the link (since I can’t).
I generally only gamble after I look at the odds. In this case, my interpretation of the wiki is that the dab is a straight-up loss (assuming you have 0 chance at goo-covered objects — not enough data to know if you can or not). The exotic one seems to covert gold to ectos at a rate of 35 silver each — when I tried, I gained ectos and lost gold at a rate of 10 silver lost per ecto gained. The ascended one seems to be a net loss (with ectos valued at 35 silver each) but give you parts for the mystic forge conduit, but at a cost where it is cheaper to buy off the TP (about 70-75 gold per goo-covered object, which is a mystic forge conduit part about 50% of the time). Cheaper yet would be to buy the parts off the TP and forge it yourself.
However, only the most expensive version seems to contribute to the achievement, and if you can sell items from the portal, that may be worth getting.
Is that about the gist of it?
Once you have unlocked the collection, you can complete it anytime — it took me several months to get around to completing it. However, you could only unlock it during Wintersday. I suspect (and this is an uninformed guess) that there will be a way to unlock the collection next Wintersday too. I also suspect that you won’t be able to get it without doing the collection, which is Wintersday themed.
I recently heard that high armor values (and possibly other defensive scores) aggro mobs. Is this true? If so, isn’t it yet another benefit of Zerker gear?
Also, wouldn’t you be able to give people a reason to wear something other than Zerker gear if the opposite were true — mobs aggro by characters with weak armor / defenses? It makes sense that they would attack the squishiest characters first.
I like linking weapons to legends.
I realize that this means you wouldn’t be able to switch between melee and ranged weapons on a single legend, but that feels like a reasonable limitation on the class.
Hmn. You can already pick two legends. What if you had two weapon/legend combo slots? You could access two weapons with a single legend but not have access to another legend.
I haven’t been able to spot any mist essence in Stronghold yet. What does it look like?
The way I see it, Anet deliberately put in lots of tomes that are easy to get, plus some birthday boosters, for vets that want to learn in the mists. Using tomes is a deliberate feature that Anet endorses, and that Anet doesn’t want to force alts into the NPE if they don’t want to.
As someone who started his first character under the NPE, I didn’t find it to be that bad, since the lockouts were brief. Plus, Anet has now dialed back on the lockouts (eg weapon swap from level 15→10).
The only issue I see is with new accounts, and I see that as a niche issue.
What happened to characters level 41-44?
Excellent point, Randulf.7614 but let’s take this to it’s illogical conclusion. If for example they continue on to another person, etc. sooner or later they will grow tired of being the only toon standing there. The psychological message is important (assuming they are smart enough to understand it). Abuse and people vanish and that means there is nobody around to bully. It also creates a situation wherein, if their actions warrant reporting then ArenaNET will receive a flood of reports about that individual (irrespective of avatar) and will notice that they are actively engaged in abuse of other people which comes back to the point of my opening comment.
Exactly why you should REPORT them.
I did bought my gw2 with like 6-7 other friends when it launched, but they all quit after hitting 80 and now im the only one left. So yea guess their total sales doesnt mean much lol
With Buy To Play, it still means a lot. With the Gem Store, population still means something too, though.
Two responses — one snarky, the other serious.
Snarky:
I will believe that scaling is a problem when lowbies dominate WvW. (Actually, I’m curious what happens if someone tries this.)
Serious:
It sounds like Anet tested this and found that if a level 80 had the same stats as a lowbie, then the level 80 would vastly outperform the lowbie. So, in order to make things more even, they had to have the level 80 have lower stats to compensate for all the advantages they have.
I agree that it’s counterintuitive for the lowbie to have a higher power stat (at the cost of weaker other stats — yes, the lowbie can better approximate a glass cannon because their gear only has 1 stat instead of 3 — we haven’t tried to equalize all stats yet and see how they compare then). However, this ends up giving the desired result.
The comparisons on the blog are artificial — the average lowbie will not have perfect gear, as it’s too much time/effort/money to constantly replace your gear as you level. Similarly, the downscaled character did not use anything that lowbie didn’t have access to — eg no elite.
In short, a twinked-out lowbie can do a better glass cannon than a downleveled 80, so the lowbie will have higher non-crit damage. However, in practice, lowbies don’t feel overpowered and downscaled 80s don’t really feel underpowered now. So, while I recognize that the stat difference seems odd, it is what is necessary to give the end results, and I care more about the end results.
You people have no idea what dumbed downed means or how to apply it. This update increases your actual choices. Less is more with MMO talents. Having a lot of talents just makes it a nightmare to balance, and most of it is false choice anyway. Now ArenaNet can balance each talent directly with only 2 others, rather than dozens of talents at once. If anything this change will increase the diversity of builds since you don’t have so many horrible traits.
This thread is hilariously ironic.
Thank you. I’m glad someone else recognizes this. We may have fewer combinations, but most of those old combinations were not something someone would realistically use. Now we have more interesting choices since more choices are useful.
I’d rather deal with this than unlocking all my traits for a new character.
I missed the “greatest fear” storyline, so now I need to level 3 characters to try it out… (This is praise, not a complaint.)
So, the main reason to play is to get a mystic forge conduit (or sell the pieces on the TP)?
I’m fine with them not announcing a release date because release dates aren’t particularly reliable or meaningful. Most (not all) of the time, companies miss their release dates, and I’m sick of the horror and shock and betrayal when that happens.
They have been converted to spirit shards, which are in the wallet, I believe. You can get to the wallet by clicking on the bottom of the inventory window.
Is there a trusted website that I can give my authorization key to in order to view the status of my TP orders? In particular, I’d like to look at my sale history.
I don’t have a problem with new customer deals, just like I don’t have a problem with Steam sales, though I can’t see how someone would be for one and against the other.
I’m not against pre-purchase, just like I’m not against Kickstarter or similar sites, but I don’t get how someone could be for one and not the other.
I consider all of these things normal and part of how things work. I also consider “loyal customers” to be people who give Anet money — whether through purchasing the xpac or buying gems (and more than a one-time buy of $10 worth).
So, I’m not shocked with the current arrangement. I’m also not shocked that to get a character slot, you have to either spend gems or prepurchase the xpac or upgrade your edition.
I only got standard, but I believe I am getting value for my money.
Thank you. It has some nice tools. I might check that in tandem with gw2spidy.com for crafting. The two biggest features it is missing is an ability to sort by % profit (on some tools, but not others) and an estimate of item velocity. I do want a good source on item velocity (how long on average it takes to sell an item of that type), as that is extremely valuable to know.
I’ve also been wondering if I have a way of looking at my tp store orders on a website (which is a feature gw2shinies does have), but I’m not sure how safe it is to put my information into that site. I need to figure out if the information can only be used to view my account and not log into it.
Also, there is this list:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/API:List_of_applications
Having played GW1, I think each map in GW2 has a lot more care than in GW1.
If it were the other way around, people would be complaining that the expansion maps are just empty maps put in just to increase the map count and justify the price.
I do prefer the higher quality of maps.
Wow looking at that comparison,you would be mad to preorder hot.
It seems crazy to me how they keep drip feeding us one new feature at a time.
Why not tell us how many new zones were going to get and if there are gonna be new dungeons.
At the moment its just looking like a living world update to me.Which is why we probably shouldn’t pre-order/pre-purchase HoT to begin with. The problem with doing that for any game is that you are buying something without know everything about it. You are making a personal investment and making it more difficult to back out if you change your mind, albeit not impossible.
If for no other reason, we shouldn’t pre-purchase this game or any other game based on principle.
That’s generally the case for preorders (or more recently, Kickstarter).
I’m curious what TP tools there are out there. I know of a couple, but many have flaws or make certain assumptions that don’t necessarily hold. I’m curious what tools people know of and use.
I see a lot of people taking everything anyone associated with Anet as a promise, preventing them from changing their minds later. If people allow Anet to change their minds without it being a breach of trust, then it would be safer for them to speak.
As an example, look at what happened because of the art with the land spears. If they (hypothetically) said they were thinking of adding them and took them away before release, how would people react?
On the other hand, I think they could stand to either bring back the Collaborative Development Initiative or start something similar in its place.
Veterans get living story season 2 for free. Newcomers have to pay for it. So, veterans who logged in during season 2 did get something.
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I don’t get how someone can complain about this and talk about steam sales in the same breath. You buy something on Steam just to have them put it on sale later! What about the people who paid more for it just before the sale? What about people who paid full price at release? Is the sale unfair to them?
This is the same type of thing. Not only that, but the idea of an expansion including the original is an old trick to get new people into the franchise (and I welcome new players). Anet didn’t come up with that trick. Some people have issues with this, and others don’t. I happen not to have a problem with any of this.
I’m sorry, but what do existing players gain from buying the game again?
Plus it was 39€ to buy the core game, which indisputably has way mroe content than the expansion. So you mean it costs more to buy the expac than the core?Saying i’m disapointed is a huge understatement.
You guys need to realize that riding the hype train is gone. The hype was drowned by 3 months of barely any new content.
If we’re to buy something we already have again, even if its “free”, which COME ON, who are you kidding? We should have something to show for it.
I mean its bad enough with the heroic edition being cheaper and with more content than the pre-purchase of the original game. Now you throw another curve ball.Not to mention you throw this one up after the AWESOME idea of PET ROCK?
And in the middle of steam sales no less. Humm two games for the price of the expansion or the expansion…
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Also, giving away character slots would be a slap in the face to anyone for whom the extra character slot was a factor in buying the $75 edition over the $50 edition.
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Sales are normal. New customer deals are normal. Giving the base game away with the expansion to new players is just good sense.
What about bundles on steam? Or steam sales? Or any other kind of sale? How about when older games get cheaper? Is that unfair to people who bought it earlier?
This really is perfectly normal and reasonable and commonplace.
Also, I do not believe that they planned to give away the base game all along. I believe they did not yet know what the final deal would be when they had the original sale of the base game for $10.
I bought the core game for $40, just two weeks before it went on sale for $10. I do not feel that I was cheated.
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So, you’d be happier if they gave you the same deal you’re getting now, but new players got a worse deal than they are getting now? That’s terrible business sense. You want to give new customers deals so that they have an easier buy-in — that’s much better business sense.
I bought the game for $40, only to have it go on sale for $10 four weeks later, yet I thought it was fair to pay $40 when I did. Such is life.
But its pretty much everything else surrounding this expansion from the announcement yesterday to the very little and poor responses we got from Arenanet since then (+ decision from the past that make the current ones even worse).
Let me start off by this, I expected the price tagg and planned on pre purchasing the game as soon as I could, planned because this is not the case any longer and the price tagg itself has nothing to do with that.
It is however that they decided to go with a bundle that is pretty much a big middle finger to the people that already have the basic game, their long time supportors + the fact that ever since they announced HOT they have been scamming people to buy the original game because “it was needed for HoT” and now they just say “yeah it is in there and you did not have to buy it seperately”, simply ripping off all those people that bought the original these last few months and making the people who got their friends to buy it
look bad too.The least they could do is make 2 bundels, one if you already have the original and one if you dont. Or discount sell the expansion alone, because lets face it no matter how many times they want to use the BS excuse we made the original free now, it isnt, its calculated in the price like with all marketing stunts and the players that supported their company from the start are being duped by that.
If they just put HoT as a single item, no original GW2 included and put it at 50 the IMO justified outrage would be a lot less, sure some people would still want a character slot, but a lot of people like myself would have gladly paid it, but not now that I see how they chose to deal with it which is giving the middle finger to long time supporters aswell as scamming people who recently bought the game. And unless they automatically refund each and every person automatically nothing will change the fact that Arenanet in my book have changed from a company that I would gladly support to mere frauds because in the end of the day you scammed lots of people (all buyers from of the orignal version starting from the HoT announcement till now ).
Yes you can say contact support, but you know aswell as I that only a minority will and you will still have scammed all those others out of money.
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Old veterans did get something new players didn’t: Living World Season 2, which was free to you but not new players.
The new warrior specializations are amazing tbh.
Running 66060 with Berserker’s Power and Phalanx Strength at the same time will be great
I’m glad someone else noticed. I’m also thinking about running with Berserker’s Power and Phalanx Strength, though I’m not sure what the third trait line will be. I like the new Berserker’s Power for 20% extra damage if you can get up to tier 3 quickly. Perhaps I could get Burst Mastery for that? Hmn…
“Using a burst skill for your equipped weapon will now set the recharge of all adrenaline tiers of that burst skill.”
I don’t really know what that means, but it does not sound like it trigger a cooldown on OTHER burst skills. Note the wording: " That burst skill " and not all burst skills.
Earth shaker, is a different burst skill than Combustive Shot, for example.
I could be wrong?
That was my interpretation as well, but I could also be wrong. However, if that’s what they meant, then what is the change? Can you currently activate a burst skill and then activate it again with a different adrenaline level without a cooldown?
Either you think 5% is a big deal or you don’t.
If you think 5% is a big deal, then you already want ascended gear and have had lots of time to get some.
If you think 5% isn’t a big deal, then I would like to point out that 10% (new value) – 5% (old value) = 5% = not a big deal.
That is, if you think ascended gear wasn’t significant before, then this change isn’t significant either.
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Yeah but what people seem to forget about is that, you have to do more to open current functionality of your toons. Everyone seems to be putting this into a perspective of having to do 65 challenges on ONE toon.
Nah now its all my alts. Having to do the same crap over and over and over again on each one to get the same functionality I currently have.
Then on top of that, I still have to do more for elites as there are 220 hero points after the 400 they give you from leveling.
So if its going down to zero. To fully open a toon I have to do 220 X 9 hero skill challenges? Screw you. 1 toon yeah whatever I would probably do it anyway, but after that WTH?
Something about the math here doesn’t sound right. Either it will take fewer than 220 Hero Points, or a skill challenge will worth more than 1 Hero Point, or there will be a lot more ways to earn Hero Points (hopefully including WvW).
But if it really did take 220 skill challenges per character, I think that would be worthy of complaint. I just think that somehow the situation will not be that bad.
All signs currently point to ArenaNet not caring whether they erode player trust by setting back progress and requiring that we earn it over again.
History also shows that they are not firmly committed to their early statement that WvWers could completely progress their characters without leaving WvW. Some design choices over the last three years have taken steps in that direction, others have taken steps away.
I think they do care, and I am not ready to give up hope that they will have a solution for WvWers other than “get Hero Points in PvE”.
that’s horrible… i dont wanna do the skill challenge with 9 characters….
where is the sense to force player already know the game to go around the map to do useless and boring stuff again?!
i hope anet will change their mindIts going to get even better once HoT comes out. Since based off what was said about the Elite Spec during the Core Spec reveal live stream you are going to need hero points to unlock your elite specs. My best estimate is ~100 hero points (5 Hero points per skill/trait x 12 traits/6 skills/2 skins).
So while you may have an argument about the skill reset taking away progress being unfair you are still going to have to grind the Skill challenges on all your characters.
Just a quick check — do we know for certain that each Skill/Hero Challenge will give only 1 Hero Point? You have a valid point, which is why I suspect ~165 sounds like too many, unless they are a lot more abundant in HoT, there are more ways of getting them, or you get more than 1 Hero Point per Challenge.
This isn’t a progress reset, not exactly. You don’t have to repeat the exact same things to get back to the exact same place, you have to do some different things to get to a new place. Future leveling and gaining of traits and skills will be so much nicer than they’ve been under the NPE/world event trait unlock system that it boggles me people would rather keep the current system rather than invest a little sliver of time in stepping onto the new path.
Ok so lets play this by your games.
Lets add 65 addional SPvP ranks, and an additional 65 WvW ranks along with the 65 Hero challenges to the requirements for unlocking all the skills and traits.
how would you like that?
I think you need to remove the “additional” requirement since it counts past progress. Also, with the effort, it would be more like “have played 65 sPvP matches total on your account ever” and “have reached rank 65 in WvW”.
However, there is a valid point that people who don’t want to do PvE shouldn’t have to do that if they just want to play sPvP or WvW. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought sPvP lets you use skills/traits you haven’t unlocked in PvE (or is that only equipment?). It does seem to leave WvW players out, unless there are enough Hero Challenges on the old + new maps. If they did add enough Hero Challenges to WvW, I’d be fine with that. Alternately, I’d be fine if ranks in WvW gave Hero Points (though there’s the character vs account difference, so that wouldn’t work precisely).
It doesnt. Pop into the mist and note the trait unlock vendor. What you believe that person could be there for?
So, does sPvP let you use skills but not traits that you haven’t unlocked? (I genuinely don’t remember, hence my hedging.) Since the the skill and trait unlock systems are becoming the same system, I would reasonably guess that locked traits would become useable in sPvP after the patch — also, that’s presumably why others on this thread say sPvP isn’t an issue.
Anyway, that’s good to know (and I did say to correct me if I’m wrong), but it doesn’t actually change my point — WvW people shouldn’t need to play PvE to unlock their skills/traits, though I would not consider it unreasonable if they could do everything they needed to in WvW instead of PvE.
This isn’t a progress reset, not exactly. You don’t have to repeat the exact same things to get back to the exact same place, you have to do some different things to get to a new place. Future leveling and gaining of traits and skills will be so much nicer than they’ve been under the NPE/world event trait unlock system that it boggles me people would rather keep the current system rather than invest a little sliver of time in stepping onto the new path.
Ok so lets play this by your games.
Lets add 65 addional SPvP ranks, and an additional 65 WvW ranks along with the 65 Hero challenges to the requirements for unlocking all the skills and traits.
how would you like that?
I think you need to remove the “additional” requirement since it counts past progress. Also, with the effort, it would be more like “have played 65 sPvP matches total on your account ever” and “have reached rank 65 in WvW”.
However, there is a valid point that people who don’t want to do PvE shouldn’t have to do that if they just want to play sPvP or WvW. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought sPvP lets you use skills/traits you haven’t unlocked in PvE (or is that only equipment?). It does seem to leave WvW players out, unless there are enough Hero Challenges on the old + new maps. If they did add enough Hero Challenges to WvW, I’d be fine with that. Alternately, I’d be fine if ranks in WvW gave Hero Points (though there’s the character vs account difference, so that wouldn’t work precisely).
People have been asking for trait changes, so here they are. Personally, it would have been enough for me to make unlocks on characters account-wide — if one character has an unlock, then all characters get it unlocked (by deed accomplished to unlock the trait, not the trait itself, since some professions have some small changes in what deed unlocks which trait number).
15 million snowflakes at 2c each = 3k gold. It’s possible it was done by people very intentionally. However, as someone else pointed out earlier, it’s much faster than the usual drain rate of supply, so it represents a sudden shift, not a gradual workthrough of the backlog.
Given that these changes weren’t in yesterday’s patch notes, does this mean these changes are for a future patch? Would this likely be in 2 weeks?
Can you take your own portals? I’ve never been able to.
So, I keep seeing people use portals in ways that don’t actually work for me or match the description. Specifically:
- I can’t use my own portals. Yet I’ve seen videos where other people do. Has this feature been removed? Is there some way to take your own portals?
- The tooltip says you place the entrance first and then the exit. Yet I see people create portals to the end of jumping puzzles, which should only be possible if you create the entrance, do the jumping puzzle in under one minute, then create the exit. Yet, that’s clearly not what’s happening. How do I create portals to the end of jumping puzzles after solving them?
Clearly, I don’t get it. How are people doing these things?