Having to kill every single raid boss every single week for 4 months seems excessive.
And considering the trouble most folk doing the raids have finding groups that can consistently kill raid bosses 150 LI is just a joke.The bar is set way to high for MR average raider.
Anet lock the average player out of legendary armour buy putting it behind raids then put it out the reach of the average raider with this 150 legendary insights crap.
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Indefinitely suspended/ cancelled or maybe spread out over many years and several expansions and you will see it long after you lost interest in it.
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When your calculating the % of players raiding how do you factor in the people buying regular runs because thats there only way to get legendary Armour. At 1000g or 2k ecto for a clear of both wings its expensive yes.But anet created a very lucrative business when they locked legendary behind raids.
Lolwhat. Full eternal was like 200g, full clear for 2 wings was 500, and that was shortly after wing 2 launch, when not everyone put raids on farm and price was considered too expensive.
Mathis and sabitha have always been the most expensive,but if you know anyone selling full clear both wings for 500g i could save a fortune.But in reality there are very few can do all six consistently and they can charge what they like.I did get offerd a bargain once,took them 3 days to kill mathis.
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When your calculating the % of players raiding how do you factor in the people buying regular runs because thats there only way to get legendary Armour. At 1000g or 2k ecto for a clear of both wings its expensive yes.But anet created a very lucrative business when they locked legendary behind raids.
The third raid wing is out in two days and a lot of stuff is unknown about legendary armor.Is it even coming out with this wing,or is it going to take several expansions and raids to finish?That would seem a strange way to do things,especially for people joining the game maybe a couple of expansions down the road.
I suppose its something having 5%-10% of your players happy when the rest have been starved of proper content for 8 months.Not sure what that something is but im sure its something.
Many non-raiders attitudes on the forums:
A bakery has my favourite cake in stock today. I buy it, eat it and am happy.
The bakery does not have your favourite cake in stock today. They will be in stock tomorrow. You are unhappy.
You tell the baker that they should stop making my favourite cakes and ONLY make your favourite cakes in an attempt to never make it go out of stock again. I disagree with you.
Is it not worse to nullify some people’s enjoyment to ensure that other people don’t have to wait a little while for their enjoyment? I think so, and am disgusted by the people advocating it, I’m glad Anet ignore them and are already working on a new raid.
the problem is for the last 8 months the only frigin cakes anet made are raider cakes and thats not why we came to this frigin cake shop.
Ye great job,just a shame most of the players will never play it or see it.
Those 2 million that bought guild wars 2 at launch done so because it wasn’t like all them other wow raiding clones.The vast majority of people who bought this frigin game do not raid and do not give a dam about them.but have to put up with raid after raid being released wile they get zero content for 8 months,wile anet pats its self on the back for making awesome content 90% dont play.
Guild Wars 2 sold 2 million copy’s at launch,HOT apparently around 300k and out of that a small fraction play raids,but in 8 months all we have had is raids,raids and next week more raids.
Is it wing 3 or raid 3 though? after all, the 2nd wing is still part of ‘envoy armor I : experimental armor’. Supposedly there will be a II and III to follow, possibly even an IV as with the fractal backpack.
From what I can tell it seems that the next wing will only make the first precursor-step obtainable, meaning it’ll probably be another 2 years or so before we get the full legendary. I may be misunderstanding things though.The precursor is what you get from completing the first collection. Legendary armor follows a theme with each raid, and considering this raid only has three wings, it will be available with the upcoming wing. The only other collection that I can see them doing is for the gift.
What do you base this on? that would make this the shortest collection anet has done.
its only been drawn out buy waiting time.Backpack precursors are ascended. They’ve specfically stated that players will be able to craft the legendary armor once the final wing of the current raid is available. The gift specific to the armor would likely be a collection as all of the other HoT legendary items have followed that route.
Were did they specifically state that we will get the legendary armour after the first raid? and there were 3 ascended stages to the legendary back item ad infinitum before you got the final item.
Is it wing 3 or raid 3 though? after all, the 2nd wing is still part of ‘envoy armor I : experimental armor’. Supposedly there will be a II and III to follow, possibly even an IV as with the fractal backpack.
From what I can tell it seems that the next wing will only make the first precursor-step obtainable, meaning it’ll probably be another 2 years or so before we get the full legendary. I may be misunderstanding things though.The precursor is what you get from completing the first collection. Legendary armor follows a theme with each raid, and considering this raid only has three wings, it will be available with the upcoming wing. The only other collection that I can see them doing is for the gift.
What do you base this on? that would make this the shortest collection anet has done.
its only been drawn out buy waiting time.
Of course your allowed to advertise buying runs on lfg.What i said was its not allowed on the forums.Or so i was told.
From personal experience your not allowed to advertise buying runs on the forums,i got an infraction for it with this
Moderator Note:
Advertising the purchase, sale or trade of game accounts, items, gold or other real-money transactions are forbidden by our Forums Code of Conduct and the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement.
To much easy gold has been added in this patch. Anet caved in and gave players what they want.RIP guild wars 2 economy
Guild wars 2 addict so il pay whatever it costs.
Im 53 and disabled and dont like taking abuse from elitist teenagers.
Its not the raids so much as the people and attitude they attract.
I think its about resources, I don’t think its about the technical issues involved, that’s just the cover story imo.
my humble theory is that the initial set of legendries were very lucrative for anet, ppl converted RL money to gold to make them and anet made good money off them, that crowds now been milked out/moved on and ppl (in general) have become less susceptive to spending money in the cash shop. anet thought with the expansion they would re-start this process which would then make sense for them to add more legendries, except the expansion didn’t achieve what they thought it would and there are far less ppl now who would spend RL money to get gold for their legendary, so it doesn’t make financial sense for anet to invest in further legendries when they need to put those resources into something that will have a better chance of creating revenue.
hence legendries were cut.
Players bought them outright from the tp and others bought the mats and crafted them.Anet was making a fortune from the pre hot legendries and there income took a nose dive with the new ones.The pre hot legendries brought in more gem sales than they realized i think.
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I am getting the same thing several times a day.
Sounds like a whole lot of nothing.They break it they try fix it and break it then try fix it and break it.Headless chicken running around comes to mind.
anet are not capable of finishing anything they start,so no ones getting it.
Developing content for a minority is always going to be bad for the majority and the game so this is great news for the majority.When you going to do the same with this raid nonsense?
If anet relay wants to encourage this sort of thing why not offer in game incentives?
And whats the difference from buying from the tp or buying raid runs?
The cost is 10 times as high and the only winners are anet.
does this add to the prestige?
hope so
Don’t worry you can buy legendary armor off the trading post…er I mean LFG
3000g for 8/12 on the collection is £260 in gems and this is just tier 1
converting gems to gold and buying runs this Armour will probably cos £1000+
The thread is about raids and players being locked out of legendary Armour.
Its not about hot,infact apart from raids i love hot hence the 42.9k ley line crystals(ranked fourth on gw2efficiency).
try reading a thread before you post.
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I come on these forums in the hope that maybe someone from anet will read my coments.i relay have no interest in what you have to say.You complain to support this joke of a forum is were your sent.And for the time being its the only place disgruntled customers who feel cheated can have there say.
To change the nature of the product after people have put thousands of hours and in some cases a lot of money in to it just seems dishonest to me.4k hrs played £4000+ uk spent on gems 166 mastery points,hive master and golden child titles 44k ley line crystals and similar amounts of other useless currencies.What sort of company takes that sort of time and monetary investment and turns round and changes everything? ANET
Before raids i could have the best gear now i cant.
£4000+ and 4k hrs for second rate gear.
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Dont think we will get legendary Armour for a long time.the collection for the first raid just unlocks the first tier precursor.probably be at least three more tiers and a year or two till we get our legendary Armour.
Anet had a mostly casual loyal player base that they betrayed with raids and it will hit there profits hard.If the game survives that lets hope for once they learn who there player base is.They did not make raids for the same 2 million+players they made guild wars 2 three years ago for.
People are not happy because they did not get what they thought they paid for.The fact that anet did a switcheroonie makes no difference to the outcome.lets see them explain to the shareholders that they got rid of there long term profitable customers in exchange for skilled players.
They don’t have to … shareholders already know and approved Anet’s approach to HoT; anyone implying that shareholders weren’t aware simply doesn’t understand how that business relationship works. People got exactly what they were TOLD they were paying for in HoT and the same with Core. They aren’t the same thing but there wasn’t any switcheroo; we were told it was going to be different, and it was.
bullkitten. and lets see what happens when profits go down as they sure as hell will.
Anet have forgotten who there own player base is.Share holders dont get involved in business decisions,they want profit nothing less.And i think anets bad choices just cost them money.
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People are not happy because they did not get what they thought they paid for.The fact that anet did a switcheroonie makes no difference to the outcome.lets see them explain to the shareholders that they got rid of there long term profitable customers in exchange for skilled players.
Were is the contradiction?people including me put there time and money into this game to look the best and now anet locks legendary armour behind raids were most of the 2 million + who bought the game cant get to it.Of course the fraction of the player base that can do raids love the idea they can get the exclusive gear and lord it over the rest of us.It will take more than the people who do raids to keep this game going and the rest of us wont be fobbed off with gem store skins.
Who gives a dam about statistical advantage in a game were its all about cosmetics and skins.
2 million people bought guild wars 2 because it wasn’t hard core.Then three years latter after they have taken our money and in some cases thousand of hours of time they decide to change the nature of the product.Does not take a genius to work out why a lot of people are not happy with a net at the moment.
At launch guild wars 2 sold two million copy and it had no raids and was advertised as
unique in the genre.not surprising that a lot of players are now disappointed that with the addition of raids they are locked out of content and gear.This is not what they paid for.
Dark souls 2 was trial and error with no one judging you,i got to new game +7 and would never dream of trying raids.This game was originally designed to bring players together.
Raids are divisive,elitist and toxic.
The Needs of the few Outweigh the Needs of the many
The Logic of Anet
And dont forget you can buy thousands of gems and convert them to gold and pay for the raids runs to get legendary armour,very very expensive,but it is an option and a potential nice little earner for anet.
Guild wars 2 was never about excluding players and thats what made it such a great place to be.Im talking about legendary gear locked behind raids and pvp.were only the skilled can get them.I realy hope this game goes back to its old values.
The President of ArenaNet President Mike O’Brien dont want to use his own forums to talk to players.Why is that?
That information has already proved to be inaccurate,raid bosses do not drop precursors for legendary Armour.As with most things in this game its another long drawn out collection.
Envoy Armor I is ascended not legendary and will be a component in crafting legendry
lfg is full of listings that are selling raids.Players buy raids because legendary Armour is locked behind raids.players get the gold to pay for raids from gems to gold.
working as intended.
Anet themselves stated raids would not be doable by most players.And that small percentage are geting a new raid wing next week wile the rest of us get to replay hot metas for the several hundredth time.I have hive master and golden child titles and 163 mastery points.Time they gave the majority of there players something else to do.
Bored of hot yip.
“It’s a game designed to reach a lot of different types of players.”
No it is not.it designed to exclude most of the people who play this game.
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Your so called pros will have had 2 raid wings since hot,what have the rest of the players who payed for this expansion had? sweet f all.
The real problem here is that providing exclusive content for a fraction of your paying customers is economic suicide.
the masterys do not unlock automatically.have you clicked on the masyery you want to unlock and confirm you want to spend the mastery point